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SC's Loss is Actually GOOD for You

You've been hearing it all Sunday.  You've been hearing it in the paper.  "USC's loss was bad for Oregon."  "It will ensure that Oregon/USC is not a marquee game."  "It will hurt Oregon in the rankings."  Yada, yada, yada.

I'm here to tell you, don't believe a word of it.

You see, the journalists out there, who are ill-equipped to handle change because it means that its harder to write a story, are getting it all wrong.  They're assuming that Cal is going to run the table, or that LSU is going to run the table, etc.  However, all the evidence is to the contrary.  Sure, there is nobody on the schedule that LSU should lose to.  But, remember, USC shouldn't have lost to Stanford, either.  Nobody saw that coming.  Nobody saw Appalachian State beating Michigan.  Nobody saw Syracuse beating Lousiville.  But they happened.  And its going to happen again.

You see, Stanford beating USC was great for Oregon.

Nobody is getting out of the Pac-10 unscathed.  Likely, nobody is getting out with two losses.  So, while it would have been cool for an undefeated SC to roll into Autzen and suffer their first loss, the truth of the matter is that its not likely that Oregon is going to run the table, either.  Which means that SC needed to lose to other teams.

The truth of the matter is that Cal still has to play SC and ASU.  And, with the way things have been going this year, OSU, UW, or Stanford could jump up and surprise them.  SC still has to play us, Cal, and ASU.  ASU's looks good, but is unproven.  We still have tough games, but the toughest ones are at home.

With this loss, running the table makes us a lock for the BCS.  If we run the table and Cal loses twice, that means Rose Bowl.  If we run the table and Cal does, too, that means that Cal is in the NC game, and we go to the Rose Bowl.  But here is the kicker with the SC loss.  If we win all our remaing games except one, and that one game is NOT against SC, we likely go to the BCS as an at-large because they would take two teams from a tough Pac-10, and they would have to take us over SC (remember, unlike '05, there are five BCS bowls now, and there is no chance that ND steals one).  For now, I'm assuming that ASU isn't in the hunt, although that could change.

So ignore the polls for a second.  Only two teams from one conference can get into the BCS.  And SC losing to Stanford severely cripples a major competitor for one of those spots.  If we manage to get the head-to-head matchup, they have to finish a game ahead of us to get a potential spot over us.  That's a major advantage.

The other problem, however, is that due to the crazy nature of the upsets this year, its hard to predict what's going to happen.  Parity is as strong as it's ever been.  I'm not going to deal with other conference scenarios or what it would take to put us in the NC game, but I will venture to bet that teams like BC, SF, and Cincy aren't going undefeated.  But here is what you need to know for the Pac-10 championship picture:

IF the Ducks win out:

Ducks hold a tiebreaker with every team EXCEPT Cal.  If Cal goes undefeated, Cal goes to NC game, and Ducks likely to Rose Bowl.  If Cal has one loss, its a co-championship, but Cal goes to Rose Bowl via tiebreaker.  Ducks likely get at-large to other BCS bowl.  Cal with two losses means Ducks to Rose Bowl.

IF the Ducks lose one more:

As long as its not ASU or USC, we're still in pretty good shape.  We'd hold tiebreaker with SC, and ASU if they lost somewhere else.  In a tough conference, BCS at large likely, Holiday a lock at minimum.  If that loss is to SC, and SC finished with one or two losses, Holiday becomes best possibility.  Rose still possible if Cal completely blows it down the strech.

IF the Ducks lose two more:

No Pac-10 title or BCS hopes.  Holiday not likely.  Crappy minor bowl like Sun or Vegas (and we better win a bowl game this year).

These are my thoughts right now, but in this crazy year, who knows what will actually happen?

GO DUCKS!!!

--Dave

PS, congrats to SnoConeGod for the Vols demolishing Georgia.  Sorry about the Cubbies, though.

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So here's a question
My buddy Bill and I had a bit of a heated argument late Saturday night (eastern time) around the time LSU sealed its win over Florida.  I was wondering what the populace here thought about this:

Does LSU's survival of Florida diminish them at all in your view?  They're still #1 because they beat a very quality team and remain undefeated in a Power Conference (no, I won't revive last week's SEC-Pac10 debate).  But, would they be MORE of a #1 had they demolished Florida?

Let's play the "what if" game for a second (and excuse me in advance for what you're about to read).  Assume USC was playing Oregon this weekend (another top-10 team that's shown greatness this year), punking them to the tune of 70-3.  LSU had only barely taken the #1 going into this week, so the 1 or 2 designation was really a flip-flop candidate.  Thinking hypothetically, of course, would the rout of Oregon by USC be enough to push them ahead of LSU by virtue of LSU's gut-check win against Florida?

I contend "yes", but my buddy says "no".  His argument (if the copious amount of beer in me at the time didn't skew my ears) was that the #1 team in the land still beat a quality team.  While "a W" shouldn't just be looked at as "just a W", you can't drop LSU down the standings for winning.

What say you?  Try to abstract yourself from any conference or team loyalty and answer honestly as a Football Fan.  There's another side to his argument that I'll reveal after seeing what y'all have to say.

On a side-note:
Thanks, Dave...The view of the Dawg slaughter (whoops) was quite nice.  Bill secured seats on the 50 yd line, 3rd row, right behind the Georgia bench (the greatest seats I've ever had the privilege of parking my ass in).  Matt Stafford looked very deer-in-the-headlights all afternoon.  I picked a great day to make my annual trip to Knoxville, TN.  And thankfully I wasn't able to see the Cubs lose in person (but it was equally wretched on the tv).  Now I just gotta sell my lady on the notion of headin to Eugene for the Civil War (she contends "no" because it's so close to Christmas and we're supposed to be saving cash for the wedding.  I contend that football is great and I haven't been to a game at Autzen yet.  BAH!)

Go Vols.  Go Ducks.  Bring on the Wheat-eaters from Western Washington.

by SnoConeGod on Oct 8, 2007 6:59 AM PDT reply actions  

i'm purely selfish on my take
But i seriously hope that USC beats Oregon and loses to Cal so that leaves Cal in the NC game, USC in the Rose Bowl, and Oregon in the Holiday Bowl.  I only with this because i live in San Diego and want to see another Holiday Bowl with Oregon in it!!!  I was at the game against OU, and still have a sour taste in my mouth from that one...

that being said, that's the absolute worst i hope the Ducks do...Go DuckS!!!

More National TV games...don't make me pay $22/weekend to see my Ducks on TV in San Diego!

by saregister on Oct 8, 2007 4:56 PM PDT reply actions  

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