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Fire Aliotti.

I've put up with too much of this crap for far too long. 

We've had good defenses in '00, '01, '05, and '07.  However, '02, '03, '04, and '06 were atrocious.  '08 is quickly joining the ranks of the latter four seasons.  Aliotti's scheme puts his secondary in a position to fail, and only with amazing talent has our defense been any good.  And this year we have the talent, so what's the excuse.

Aliotti has a 50% success rate in creating a good defense in this tenure with the Ducks.  50% is an F.  It doesn't cut the mustard.

I tired of watching the defense flail around against play action like they've never seen it before.  I have too many bad memories of 3rd and long being a guaranteed first down.

We cannot get where we want to be as a program with the current defensive scheme.  Aliotti has shown a fundamental unwillingness to change the scheme to make it work for the personnel.

If you're not working to solve the problem, then you ARE the problem.

In sports as in politics, its time for a change.

--Dave

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We look like little kids against grown ass men.

GO DUCKS!!!!

by DuckinNC on Oct 4, 2008 7:31 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was '07 that good?

The defense created turnovers, but the offense was so potent, the defense only had to worry about the pass most of the game.

Most Duck fans want NA fired, but the only person in the world who can’t see the truth is Mike Bellotti.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Oct 4, 2008 7:32 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

50%?

As a somewhat objective observer, I would say Allioti has a good defense more like 25% of the time and that’s usually do to unusually good football players. Never his schemes.

by beavers415 on Oct 4, 2008 7:40 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait a minute...

So you’re saying that the D has gotten progressively better every year since Aliotti has been here? What do you mean they’ve regressed?

by inroywetrust on Oct 4, 2008 8:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Amen!

It looked like we ran the same stinkin’ defensive scheme EVERY down against USC. Yet another horrible defensive performance, and I too have had enough.

by BlazersPro on Oct 4, 2008 8:33 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boise State

The Ducks ran the same lame D they ran against Boise State. No heart, no emotion and no pressure on the quarterback.

I watched the USC assistant coaches and they are pumped up on the side lines, everything trickles down from the head coach. On the Duck sidelines game in and game out…well, no emotion.. everything trickles down from the head coach, not the D-coordinator. Bellotti needs to go! I can not take another year of this.

Who names their D the bend no break defense, it’s more like the bend and break defense. Remember the line from Remember the Titans “the other team will not gain another yard for the rest of the game”, something like that. Where is that mentality?

by binger on Oct 4, 2008 8:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A secondary with three NFL prospects on it should not give up 450 yards passing. To anybody.

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Oct 4, 2008 9:11 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It doesn’t matter how good the defensive secondary is if the linebackers and defensive linemen aren’t on the same page. I for one would like to know why the hell our corners…OUR EFFING CORNERBACKS are trying to provide run support in lieu of oh I don’t know…maybe covering the receiver lined up across from them. I can understand it if the play is stretched out wide or is some crazy quadruple reverse sweep kinda thing…but what I saw tonight was just sickening.

That being said, the schemes that I’ve seen this season are just mindblowing. Where in the “Collegiate Defensive Football for Dummies” book does it say that it’s a good idea to let a receiver get a free release off the line and end up in a 1 on 1 situation with a safety. This just in Aliotti…the dude is a safety because he doesn’t have the wheels to cut it as a cornerback! That’s not supposed to ever happen…I don’t care what crack pipe you’re smoking!

Omar...I'm done with you. Hello Darren Ford! Come to papa.

by PacBellBoozer on Oct 4, 2008 10:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What a joke...

I don’t know if I can ever defend Aliotti again.

It's spelled "S-h-u-f-a-i-l"

by JShufelt on Oct 4, 2008 9:45 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for saving me some time

I was going to compile a bunch of information and write a post about firing Nick Aliotti. Problem is, Bellotti won’t fire his best friend.

Funny that Knight supposedly has everyone at U of O dancing to his tune and yet he’s unable to get a crappy defensive coordinator fired.

It’s time for Aliotti to get shitcanned!

by DeltaDuck on Oct 4, 2008 9:53 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question

I know Aliotti is going to get a lot of grief over this performance. I do wonder though if we are at the point where we need to consider that our secondary just isn’t what we were led to believe? Both Boise St and now USC have done quite the number on our secondary.

I know they are talented but can we really rest this all on Aliotti? Seems like there were a lot of mental errors on the field today that were out of the control of a coach. Personal fouls and blown coverages come immediately to mind

--Dominic

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Oct 4, 2008 9:54 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that might carry some weight if this were a one time thing

but with Aliotti, we have a repeated pattern of craptitude, spanning many seasons, players, and recruiting classes.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by Addicted to Quack on Oct 4, 2008 10:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You need to look at it another way

Has the defense overachieved despite Aliotti’s porous scheme based on pure talent? This is what I believe based on many years of empirical evidence of crappy pass defense. Nick Aliotti’s scheme and coaching is mediocre or plain outright terrible when the offense is average.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Oct 4, 2008 10:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Coaches are responsible for the player's errors

especially if they repeatedly happen. If the player keeps making the same mistakes it is on the coaches for not teaching them the correct technique in the case of blown coverage or instilling discipline in the case of personal fouls.

by jfwells on Oct 5, 2008 11:43 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

time to define our program

Are we content to just be the major program in our state? Or do we really think we are better than our neighbors to the north and want to contend for conference and national championships. We are consistently outcoached on the defensive side of the ball. We have NFL talent (Chung, Byrd, Thurmond) and guys who will just make plays despite not having great athleticism (Reed, Matthews seems to be coming along), but are constantly underperforming. We went out and got a great OC in Kelly who made our offense one of the best in that nation. Time to go out and get a great defensive coach and set our sights high. There is no reason we can’t be an elite program. Time to start demanding it. Now, who would we go ofter? A buddy of mine suggested Mike Nolan…NFL cred, alum….what do you think?

by uojones on Oct 4, 2008 10:28 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh

I logged on here ready to rag rag rag dave for supporting the coaches. Thank yyou for not at least supporting Nick. That guy is a joke. Although it was apparent that we were not good enough to beat USC before the game, allioti really rubbed it in. Christ. But really, we were pretty bad all seas…no way we were gonna win the P10.

by coolconman on Oct 4, 2008 10:37 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KEEP ALIOTTI

PLUS FIRE BELOTTI AND HIRE DORRELL!!!!!!

-Cal fan

by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 4, 2008 10:38 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bad showing tonight, but a lot of football left. I’m asking for opinion here. Our DB’s were talking a lot of yang in the preseason about how good they were going to be. Do they suck, or does our DB strategy suck? I know Allioti sucks, but the DB’s are getting beat
1 v 1 all the time. Piss poor. Masouli isn’t bad, but I think we give Thomas more of a chance. Think where he’ll be as a junior, even a sophmore if he gets more reps this year? Keep your heads up Ducks, 1 Pac-10 loss and a lot of victories ahead.

by PDXDUCK on Oct 4, 2008 10:49 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Duck DBs are overrated

These DBs get flagged for multiple pass interferences per game or give up long yardage regularly against decent QBs. They tend to take poor angles, but at least they’re good tacklers.

On the other hand, the scheme to put these guys one on one on an island against guys like Patrick Turner is ridiculous. They are always cheating on the run and getting caught. These QBs are just playing pitch and catch off play action.

BINGO, BANGO, BONGO

by blzrfan on Oct 4, 2008 11:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wish defense was the only problem.

yes, defense is the BIGGEST problem right now, but it is far from our only problem. I’m sorry but there is no excuse for not even being able to score a field goal in the second half of tonight’s game. You can blame our QB situation all you want, but the fact is that Masoli is the best one on the team today, and it’s all we have got.

Is it acceptable for things to remain status quo and for us to lose to Cal and OSU this season? If things don’t change now that’s exactly what will happen.

by Squishy on Oct 4, 2008 11:32 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As good as Masoli is...

It’s all a moot point if our defense can’t stop ANYTHING. It puts our offense in a tough spot because the gameplan goes out the window and we have to abandon the run to try to catch up. And then that puts even more pressure on the passing game because all 92,000 people at The Coliseum know we’re going to pass…

It starts with defense. Offense doesn’t matter if our defense can’t hold.

by travissimmo on Oct 4, 2008 11:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

The pass coverage has gotten progressively worse the past several games (with the exception of WSU).

We gave up 386 passing to a redshirt freshman at home in a play-action clinic where we couldn’t cover tight ends. And then against USC, we give up 443. That’s embarrassing.

Our defensive backs were running into each other tonight and just getting burned deep when USC finally started to throw the long ball. It doesn’t work when Alliotti puts them on islands and expects them to pick off everything. All the pressure is on our secondary. What the hell is bend but not break? If you bend something enough, it breaks. That’s not genius, it’s stupid.

How about: “don’t bend!”

Any way we can throw some money at one of the SEC D-coordinators to join the green & gold?

Sorry if I sound a little harsh. I’ll feel better tomorrow. I just HATE watching the Ducks go into the Coliseum time after time with a team I think can finally win down there just to see them get obliterated. It’s like the proverbial elephant in the room. We can’t win there. Pete Carroll is so smug.

by travissimmo on Oct 4, 2008 11:49 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unfortunatly...

I was asked last season if I thought the Ducks were capable of A) Winning the National Championship had Dixon stayed healthy and B) Becoming a National powerhouse. As much as I love the Ducks, with our staff, the answer was no to both.

We had some great games last season but our offense carried us in every game that mattered. Truly good teams have to have a COMPLETE team. Time and time again, Aliotti’s excuse was that he had THE best scheme in the country but lacked the athlete’s to make it work.

2 Reasons why that makes Aliotti a terrible coach. 1) This year he had the talent and he still failed. There is no more excuse. 2) Chip Kelly is a great coach because he constantly talks about planning around his players. Aliotti is that idiot in the corner trying to pound a round peg into a square hole.

by DeltaDuck on Oct 5, 2008 12:57 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Last paragraph says it all.

Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.

by qrsouther on Oct 5, 2008 8:52 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

Raise your hand if you feel like this quote describes Aliotti’s D.

The sooner he leaves the program, the better.

by Freeing Ray Schafer on Oct 5, 2008 1:51 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More than bad D

Perhaps Aliotti’s strategy sucks, no argument here.

But that’s not the only problem. Kinda hard to score points when the defense is on the field the WHOLE game. How is is it that the beavers could run through SC’s D-line, like a water through a funnel and stretch it out to the sidelines, and the Ducks couldn’t do either.

Maybe it time to rethink this spread offense. Sure you can score 70 points on Utah HIgh School, but what happens when you meet a team that has speed on the edges?

Sure our DB’s were slow and tired. they were on the field the WHOLE game!

by DuckAndRun on Oct 5, 2008 12:30 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wrote this at halftime

being tired shouldn’t be an excuse for sucking in the first half.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by Addicted to Quack on Oct 5, 2008 1:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our Coachs

I have a few problems with everthing on both sides of the ball. I was at the game and watched the whole thing and I am pissed at all involved. First the D is flat out crap. We had one sack the whole game and that did not come until the 4th quarter. If you leave your CBs 1 on 1 there should be no reason that you dont have more pressure on the QB we had none. He had all day to do what the hell he wanted to some times I think SC was just fucking with us. Dave brought up the years that are D was good and if you look at those years are O was even better. It is easy to draw up a plan on D when you are winning most of the time and winning big. Funny thing is when we are young on the O side of the ball our D sucks it up. When they actually have to think and make a real game plan the D cannot do shit.

Now every one is giving CK props for last year shit Duke could have won a NC with Dixon playing QB and Snoops running the ball. On two consective drives we throw the ball 3 straight times and then the next drive we came back with three straight runs. Are you kidding me we had a total of O first down in the 3rd quarter. Zero first downs is unacceptible for a quarter from one of the top O’s in the nation. People are ready to hire CK as a head coach but he has proved nothing to me all he has done is proved that with a great running back and QB with a lot of speed he can put up a lot of points and with a ok O and a shitty team he can do the same but when it comes crunch time he does nothing are play book is ever growing smaller by the day. I do not see any of the plays we saw last year for the most part we run the same 4 or 5 plays over and over agian and you can not blame the fact that we are on QB number 3 it is week 5 the QBs should no the offence and know how to run it. CK has lost all ability to run an intovative offence when you are on you 3rd QB you have to think outside of the box and not just try the same old thing we have yet to run a revers or dubble pass or two running back and no QB there is nothing new this year we are not getting the ball to the play makers with a chance to make a play
Now MB has done a lot with this team and has taken it to hights that we have never imagained in the past but he is the head of this whole thing and has to make the calls. When the momentum was changing at the end of the 2nd half we had the ball on the 50 with 1 yard to go. Instead of changing the momentum heading in to half he punts the ball and our D does what it does bast and gave up a TD and the momentum was change with the rest of the game. it did not help that we game up a TD with seconds left. At the end of the year MB is going to have to make tuff decisions with the coaching staff and I hope one is he cans AN. Chip is good dont get me wrong but he still has a long way to go befor we can call him a great OC he is playing with the big boys now and he has to some work to become a great one and learn how to win with average(new young kids) players to be great.

by tunathebigfish on Oct 5, 2008 1:46 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fire him, yes - long overdue.

I’ve been rehearsing this same rant for a long, long time, having been on the Fire Aliotti bandwagon for YEARS. Two simple reasons why:

1. A flawed scheme. Aliotti’s approach is exploited over and over even when Oregon seeming has ample talent.

2. Horrible technique. But for the fact that the individual players themselves play their butts off – and I appreciate that – our play at linebacker and cornerback has largely been a joke during Aliotti’s stay. What good do great athletes provide when they aren’t coached to tackle, get off blocks and or maintain some discipline against double moves and play action?

I’ve never said Aliotti is a terrible D-coordinator. He wouldn’t be a Pac-10 coordinator if he was terrible. He simply is not equipped to get the Ducks to another level. Our current level is good enough to beat a lot of teams. It’s not good enough to help Coach Mike achieve his goal of bringing a national championship to Eugene. I don’t understand why he’s still here.

If athleticism was all it took to win, we’d have the players run some 40s, do a few drills and jump up and down a few times, then we’d name a national champion. Winning requires COACHING great athletes.

- Jeremy

by JConant on Oct 5, 2008 2:10 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aliotti and Bellotti are very good friends

Reason #1 Aliotti is still around.

I tried to read through the comments to make sure I wasn’t re-posting but I saw that question a couple times recently.

by DeltaDuck on Oct 5, 2008 2:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a little late

into the conversation,and i didnt read any other comments, but i’ve been saying this for a while now, i really havent liked NA that much , we have such great defensive players and they cant show their skill with that defense

by drpiranha on Oct 5, 2008 3:27 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i can't believe alotti has been here so long

when they mentioned how long his tenure has been i was blown away. his schemes are consistently terrible. “3rd and long” has become a private joke among my friends because his game plans are so pathetic for YEARS at stopping this key component of the game.

FIRE HIM 3 YEARS AGO!!!!!!

by MoreHeartThanBrains on Oct 5, 2008 9:49 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let him play against Cal..

… while being terrible.

then do whatever you want

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 5, 2008 11:04 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I beg to differ

2001 2002 2003 2005 2007…we can’t quite add our D this year yet….besides the staff has been through harder shit than this

by axemen23 on Oct 6, 2008 7:45 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You go to South?

Do you play football? What team/number?

Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.

by qrsouther on Oct 6, 2008 8:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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