UO vs Northern Colorado

by pointguard10 on Nov 14, 2008 11:41 PM PST Comment 15 comments

I went to the first half of this game and watched the second half at home on my tv.

Let me just say I believe Northern Colorado can very well make the NCAA tournament by winning their conference. They are a decent team. They should have won this game. The refs made some horrific calls against them early and often. I don't normally like to criticize refs but at one point the team foul difference was 7 to 1 in our favor in the first half. That being said, I said just last week that UO could very well still finish in the top 5 of the Pac-10. Why didn't anyone tell me I was on drugs or something? The Ducks did not play well enough tonight to prove to me that they will finish in the top 5 of the Pac-10.

Sorry for the little rant...but they are some very good things to take away from the game.

1. Kam Brown actually shot the ball more than once. He looked very aggressive offensively while staying under control, which was a great sign to see. He looked a lot like a more athletic Greg Paulus when he first got to Duke. Brown did not shoot particularly well (I think like 2-7 or 3-8 not exactly sure the stat). The good thing about his shot is that it is very smooth looking and with shooting the ball more in practice and in games he will make the jumpers he missed tonight.

2. The game was very sloppy and scrappy on all sides of the ball. That should help us because of our style of play. As much as I hate watching sloppy basketball, it might be the way we have to play in order to contend.

3. TP should never have to play the point again because of the way Kam Brown and Sim have been playing. I feel more comfortable with them controlling the ball and watching TP run off screens and catching and shooting the ball quickly like his freshman year. He didn't do it much in tonight's game, but it would be nice to see it in the next game.

4. Going back to the scrappy and sloppiness of the game, our team defense played well. We will need to play well defensively to keep us in games because we are not going to be scoring 100 points a game offensively like in years past. We simply do not have the firepower to do so.

The biggest downside this year other than experience is the like of a go to guy or guys like in the past two years with Aaron Brooks and Malik, Maarty and Bryce.

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Sim is garbage at the point.

Make an argument that he is good, because I saw him sluggishly carry the ball up court, and stop at the top of the key about 20 times because he doesn’t have the quickness to penetrate. Only once did he get anywhere near the basket while playing point guard, and it was because the defense broke down and he got a good pick.

He is not quick enough to play point, period.

That being said, I think he may be our best option at 2. That guy plays fantastically off of the ball. He gets open extremely well, and he has the ability to receive and shoot in one motion. he also drove fairly well when he wasn’t playing the point, drawing good contact, and breaking up the defense.

He is better at 2 then at 1.

I heart taxes.

by everett on Nov 15, 2008 12:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Sim

is more in control of the ball in my opinion than TP is as far as dribbling. Not all PG’s have to drive to the bucket. Yes every once in awhile but not every possession. Yes Sim may not be a true point but I would rather have TP coming off screens right now than Sim. I am only choosing TP over Sim because TP is more experienced and has proven himself that he can hit the 3.

Joe

by pointguard10 on Nov 15, 2008 12:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sim was money off of screens tonight.

his two threes looked effortless.

small data set, yes, but a good showing none the less.

Additionally, say sim can’t shoot the three ball, he is absolutely useless. A guard needs to at minimum be able to shoot, or penetrate. hopefully both.

Speaking of both… Why the heck didn’t Voogd play tonight? That guy has dirty handles.

I heart taxes.

by everett on Nov 15, 2008 1:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Was I the only one who likes Sim?

Shufelt on my foot and I wanna touch it...

by qrsouther on Nov 15, 2008 10:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No, I like him,

I said abov that I think he is maybe our best option at the 2. I just don’t think he was effective at point.

I heart taxes.

by everett on Nov 15, 2008 11:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Also, good post.

I agree scrappiness is one of our big plus sides. Pure basketball skills… not so much.

I think that Longmire is going to be the go to guy, even though I previously stated that it would be Catron. He was the one guy who really moved effortlessly tonight. I hope his knee/leg is ok, because we need him.

I heart taxes.

by everett on Nov 15, 2008 12:09 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

cramp

that just looked like a nasty cramp but i could be wrong. Hope not

Ducks Go!

by trumpetduck on Nov 15, 2008 12:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Thoughts from tonights game:

we need to stop forcing up layups when we have available kick-out options on the wings – this happened probably 15 times tonight (you know who you are, TP and Catron). When we kicked out to Odia, Humphrey, or Sim, shots fell. Points were scored. We didn’t lose.

scoring options need to be Dunigan and Longmire #1, whoever the hot outside shooter is #2. For a freshman Dunk-igan looks really comfortable on the post, and was a year away from being overpowering. All that Longmire was missing last year was the finish, and he was finishing tonight.

TP needs to not run the point. Ever. He does his stupid little dance around behind a high screen thing, jacks up quick shots, and forces stuff up in traffic.

Kamyron Brown is really very good. He’s our best passer, he’s got really quick hands. If he improves his abilities as a scorer, he should be the starting point guard, barring any possible amazing guard showing up (I’m talking to you John Wall)

The Pit Crew needs to learn what is a bad call and what isn’t. Shut up with the booing every single foul. I didn’t see one booable call in the game tonight. There will be fouls. Like eighteen-ish a half. Get over it.

It’s gonna be a learning year. I’m honestly more concerned with improving than wins. That’s why this game feels like a letdown, because we played sloppy. I’d rather watch a loss to Alabama, USC, or Arizona State in which we make good plays and just don’t come away with a W than what I watched tonight

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Nov 15, 2008 1:07 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

man i agree with you a lot

Not to rag on the pit crew, but, did anybody else notice how they were not that into yelling down the stretch? It basically took a dunk for them to get going. Then they would motion to us in the corner, who were yelling the whole time to jump. Sorry had to get that off my chest. They are just so close to being the best fans in the pac 10.

Kamyron for PG

Ducks Go!

by trumpetduck on Nov 15, 2008 8:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

no, i agree with you a lot!

and i don’t think we’re very close to being the best fans in the Pac-10 at all.

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Nov 15, 2008 8:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I just think we have to tools to be a great student section. Ok so we can yell at lot…

Ducks Go!

by trumpetduck on Nov 15, 2008 9:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You guys would know, who is the best?

I heart taxes.

by everett on Nov 15, 2008 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I've only seen a couple other teams live.

Having lived in Spokane the past 7 years… I went to UO v. WSU in Pullman for Brooks senior when the Ducks pulled off late heroics. The Wazzu fans were good, but not Pit Crew level. I also attended a few Gonzaga games, in “The Kennel”. Zag fans would get my vote for tops on the west coast. Well organized, extremely creative and relentless regardless of the opponent.

I would love to See Oregon and Gonzaga play in Portland – with big fan groups for both teams. Now that would be a show, though maybe not much of a game this year. Someone…make that happen for 2010-11!!

Side note to everett… A couple others laughed it off, but I took your flagging my other post to heart. I don’t consider myself elite anything and if the language bothers even one person, I’m willing to clean it up. There’s zero sense in something like that standing in the way of us engaging in a crisp dialog. Peace.

...the quacker soon to be known as JConant, when Jared or I can figure out how the change my damn screen name.

by JConant on Nov 15, 2008 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs