Is our athletic department too lenient?

by inroywetrust on Nov 22, 2008 12:37 PM PST Comment 17 comments

I was interested to learn from this blog post that Ernie Kent is the longest-tenured basketball coach in the Pac-10. Mike Bellotti is also the longest-tenured football coach. While we have enjoyed our greatest successes as a program under these two, we have also had seasons that were underwhelming enough that they would have gotten coaches fired at other schools. I'm not saying that I think Mike or Ernie should be fired, only that it's interesting that a school with a decent but not great level of athletic success would have the longest-tenured coaches in both major NCAA sports. So, I pose the question to the world, is our AD too lenient and loyal with their staff decisions?

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Is our athletic department too lenient?

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I would say no...

You said it yourself, we’ve had our greatest success under the Bellotti and Kent tandem. Recruits like coach stability.

As scathingly anti-Ernie my last post was… all coaches are entitled to down years. Bellotti and Kent have both had their share of those.

Haven't you people ever heard of closing the goddamn Shufelt?

by qrsouther on Nov 22, 2008 12:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

But when the up years only come when the coach is on the hot seat

Doesn’t that make you question their ability as a leader?

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by The VD Special on Nov 24, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sure....

Ernie is not a good game coach. But he’s also an amazing recruiter. He’s like the Ron Zook of college basketball.

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by jtlight on Nov 24, 2008 1:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

And this is what I was complaining about in my post...

He’s a bad clock-manager. His game plans work for me, he seems good at tayloring his offense and D to his players (the smaller, faster players we’ve been recruiting are perfect for his fast-break speedy offense.)

Alright time's up lez do this...

by qrsouther on Nov 24, 2008 5:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I would say that's not much of an offense though...

When our shots don’t fall, we fall apart.

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by jtlight on Nov 24, 2008 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

As opposed to the slooooow WSU half-court offense.

Alright time's up lez do this...

by qrsouther on Nov 25, 2008 8:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

hhhmmmm

Perhaps we just need to sign to a year to year contract.

by bradLL99 on Nov 24, 2008 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

no

it means that we have some integrity and don’t shit a brick if we happen to go 6-6. EK and MB have always rebounded. If there were a string of two to three bad seasons in a row, you would see a change.

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I miss you, ATQ.

by WoodburnDave on Nov 22, 2008 1:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I defeinitely appreciate that we don't overreact to mediocre seasons.

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Nov 22, 2008 1:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

If anything, the AD is way too restrictive

Witness the inopportune firing of Shannon Rouillard (women’s golf coach).

With Ernie, they simultaneously extended his contract while decreasing his buyout. He knows what he got into.

by Freeing Ray Schafer on Nov 22, 2008 1:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I voted "yes" -- but...

I wouldn’t want to let Mike or Ernie go. Taking the question literally, however, leaves me saying that the department is too lenient with regard to some hypothetical assistant coaches staying on just a bit long…!

by mkwing on Nov 22, 2008 2:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Hmm, that is another way to look at it.

Wanna edit/add that to the poll inroy?

Haven't you people ever heard of closing the goddamn Shufelt?

by qrsouther on Nov 22, 2008 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Done and done

by inroywetrust on Nov 23, 2008 6:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Loyalty cuts both ways

I think that Oregon has been lucky to have found coaches that want to stick around despite offers/interest from other schools, many coaches are all too willing to jump ship after 1 or 2 seasons. So we have two coaches that have presided over the most successful period in their respectives sports’ long histories at this university. Do I think that they could havedone better from time to time? Yes, but so could Ohio State, and Texas and any number of “storied programs”. We have had much success with Bellotti and Kent. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

by QuackinAK on Nov 23, 2008 9:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

A bird in the hand...

…is worth a Few in the bush?
Sorry had to do it. I do like the point you made though.

Ducks Go!

by trumpetduck on Nov 23, 2008 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Ahhhh! I get it!

Alright time's up lez do this...

by qrsouther on Nov 23, 2008 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

no

With both EK and MB, I would challenge anyone to find a single season that has been so unacceptable from a coaching standpoint as to warrant a firing. Down year? Overwrought expectations (I’m looking at you malik)? injuries? yes on all three counts. But considering the geographical challenges Oregon faces being in our own little corner of he nation, both of them have done quite well. Would I love to see fewer two quarterback systems, safties not playing the run exclusively, and real, live post players? yes, but that is far from grounds for a firing.

They've gone to plaid!

by gribbit1 on Nov 23, 2008 2:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs