Civil War Injury Update

by jtlight on Nov 24, 2008 9:49 AM PST in Football Comment 32 comments

Will we have a Civil War again where the best players actually get to play?

Jacquiz Rodgers suffered a second degree AC joint sprain, as reported by the Corvallis Gazette-Times:

The Beavers, however, may be without star tailback Jacquizz Rodgers. He has a second-degree AC joint sprain that he suffered in the first quarter Saturday night. That means there’s slight tearing of the ligaments.

His arm is in a sling, but there’s hope he’ll play this week, coach Mike Riley said Sunday night. It takes up to six weeks to be free of pain, so it’s a matter of how much discomfort he can take.

This will obviously be very important to the game. Quizz is a very physical back, and has been the most consistent player in the Pac-10, and has the most positive impact on his team as well. On top of this, Oregon has had problems with the smaller backs, and has seemed to handle the bigger, bruising runners it has faced. It stopped cold backs like Ian Johnson and Toby Gerhart, while having issues with Anthony Kimble, Jahvid Best, and Keola Antolin.

McCants may turn into a good back, and despite the preseason optimism by Beaver fans, has been a non-issue for much of the season. Oregon will have significantly less problems with McCants than they would with a healthy Jacquizz.

We can count on Jacquizz playing. I doubt that he will practice much this week, but he will try to play on Saturday. But the question is, how well will he deal with the pain? What if he takes a couple shots on the shoulder when he's running inside. Either way, Oregon defenders will know that the opposition is in pain, and that should provide even more motivation to hit him that much harder. This extra pain could also lead to fumbling, etc. If Jacquizz can work through this, props to him, but that will be no easy task.

Also, his brother James is battling turf toe, and missed practice yesterday (the Beavers have a light practice on Sunday rather than Monday). Though this shouldn't hurt many of the plays that he runs, because he seems to use his straight line speed more than shiftiness, Rodgers has used his cutback abilities to create big plays. If this injury nags him, this ability will be serverely hampered.

Lastly, Lyle Moevao will be back at practice, but no starter has been named. Either way, I don't think this will afect Oregon gameplanning at all.

Either way, at this point, Oregon should hold a major advantage of being rested and healthy, and will be very ready to get physical on Saturday.

GO DUCKS!

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Oregon's D

I believe that if oregon can put up points fast like they usally do, and force OSU to pass they will win the game. If OSU can grind out the run Oregon will be in trouble. Oregon somehow needs to hold the freaking ball and give the D some rest too. It seems that with Oregon its 3 and out or a touchdown that only took 1 minute. Oregon’s D have actually been really good in the first half, but after spending the majority of the game on the field they loose a step and that just kills them almost every game.

by ducksfan on Nov 24, 2008 10:28 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

oregon has a defense?

if oregon can put up points fast like they usally do, and force OSU to pass they will win the game.

Hmmm…do you think that because of oregon’s 101st ranked passing defense or because OSU has the best passing offense and wide receiver corps in the Pac-10 this year or did you mean something else?

Obviously, I’m giving you a hard time, but….come on.

Roses are Orange.

by CV3000 on Nov 24, 2008 7:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You're right

But he also may have been supposing Quizz would play, and that that would be bad news for Ducks.

Alright time's up lez do this...

by qrsouther on Nov 24, 2008 7:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I know that Oregon secondary has given up big plays. I also know that the OSU qb like to throw picks and make bad decisions. It should be interesting to see how either qb handles the pass rush. Does the Oregon defense need to be that great aginst a team who has trouble scoring aginst lesser teams? This game isnt going to be about defense, its going to be about who can win a shoot out.

by ducksfan on Nov 24, 2008 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Kinf of...

CV3000 -

As a Duck fan I dislike you greatly, but as a human I love your ability to make people squirm, truly great. You are an inspiration to aspiring a-holes everywhere. I truly mean that from the bottom of my heart.

First, yes the Beavs are first in the PAC-10 in Pass O but really this isn’t the year to use that as a secret weapon. I think they are in the 30’s nationally. Good for sure but not great.

Second, take a look at the top-10 in pass defense and the bottom-10. There isn’t as much disparity between each group’s winning % as you may think. Certainly I’m not saying the Beav’s don’t have a good pass O and the Ducks a bad Pass D but it is interesting to look at. Do the same for Run D, now that’s a stat!

Have fun this weekend.

by duckfoshomofo on Nov 24, 2008 9:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

:-) Some of us can't allow ourselves to be a-holes in real life. :-(

First, yes the Beavs are first in the PAC-10 in Pass O but really this isn’t the year to use that as a secret weapon. I think they are in the 30’s nationally. Good for sure but not great.

… the point is that they’re chucking it as good or better than the ones that have already lit you guys up so famously. It will be interesting to see if you can contain 3 of the conference’s top 10 receivers.

Roses are Orange.

by CV3000 on Nov 24, 2008 11:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Team

I believe that this is the best team that Oregon has put on the field for the civil war in a number of years.

by ducksfan on Nov 24, 2008 10:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Let's hope for nice weather

No rain = Ducks win

by DavisDuck on Nov 24, 2008 10:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

hey

so out of curiousity, how would stanford beating cal have affected our rose bowl hopes?

by coolconman on Nov 24, 2008 12:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

We needed Cal to be as low as possible, so they didn't come into play in the tiebreaker...

We needed UCLA and Stanford as high as possible, as OSU and USC would have lost to them in the only scenarios that sent us to the Rose. Or something like that.

--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Nov 24, 2008 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I know that this is way out there, but if USC looses to both UCLA and ND and we win this weekend wouldnt we go to the rose bowl? We only have 2 loses in coference play.

by ducksfan on Nov 24, 2008 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nevermind ND is not PAC 10

by ducksfan on Nov 24, 2008 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yet

by bradLL99 on Nov 24, 2008 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I have watched the beavs play a few times this year and from what I have seen I am not impressed. I take that back the USC game was impressive how the beavs came out to play all fired up. The beavs have found ways to win I will give um that, but they havent really looked great doing it. Struggled against ASU, UA, and first half of UCLA. Beat Cal with special teams, not offence. Im not saying the beavs are not good, but they are very beatable. We have had a new to D1 quarterback who is getting better and making fewer mistakes with every game played. I want nothing more to take this away from the beavs. I got so pissed last year hearing how they beat the ducks. If we had our starting team healty we would have killed the beavs. I am getting more and more pumped for this game. GO DUCKS!

by ducksfan on Nov 24, 2008 4:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Tell me about it, brother

I got so pissed last year hearing how they beat the ducks. If we had our starting team healty we would have killed the beavs.

It was just terrible how the Beavers didn’t play with any of their best offensive players. Then that kid from Bend who had never started a game gashed the ducks for 142 yards, including one carry when he ran away from oregon’s entire secondary with his 4.6 speed. I guess that’s what happens when you have a slow secondary.

And when they stuffed Jonathan Stewart—oregon’s best running back in history who was actually playing— on 4th and 1?? Oh, the humanity!! They shouldn’t be allowed to beat them fair and square. Oh no!

Roses are Orange.

by CV3000 on Nov 24, 2008 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh CV

you are so cute when you compare one injured player to 2 injured WR an injured RB and Denis Dixon. Cute as a button I say

by bradLL99 on Nov 24, 2008 7:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

As if YvB was OSU's only significant injury last year?

OSU was also missing several other starters besides Bernard, including 2 All-Americans: Sammie Stroughter and Jeremy Perry.

The point is that ducks fans think that they’re the only ones who had to test their depth chart in that game, when in reality, both teams were equally tested. And you just sound like crybabies when you talk as if that wasn’t the case.

Roses are Orange.

by CV3000 on Nov 24, 2008 10:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh CV

you are such a cutie – I was simply responding to your post. Still even a sweetheart like must recognize the 3 injuries do not even equal Dixon, let alone the other players

by bradLL99 on Nov 25, 2008 7:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

All of a sudden Yvenson Bernard = The entire Ducks offensive starting skill players except for J-Will?

Alright time's up lez do this...

by qrsouther on Nov 24, 2008 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

All of a sudden Yvenson Bernard was the Beavers only injured player last year?

good lord.

Roses are Orange.

by CV3000 on Nov 24, 2008 10:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

do you know why they stuffed J stew? Its because they didnt have there star qb who would have kept the ball and easily got a first. Go look at the tape The D-end shot in to the middle and the qb had a open lane to run, but beings it was his first start ever and he (roper) does not run much he made the wrong decision and handed it off. Oh and by the way that kid from Bend is a great running back.

by ducksfan on Nov 24, 2008 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

CV -

I think you should add something to your repertoire other than “snarkyness.” Remember, great comedy comes from being creative, not just using your old tricks. Also, I have great respect for Ev Bernard, I think he was a very under-rated back, especially considering the offense he was so instrumental in. The kid from Bend (cant remember his name) had a truly great game. My problem is you make it sound as though you have no respect for J-Stew. As someone who loves the Beavs so much I figured you would have some love for thy rival and players. Remember, EVERY great football school has at least one great rival. I think in order for both programs to grow to the heights we want them to it will take both improving together. The Civil War simply needs to have this year’s feel every year. Just my 2 cents…

“ducksfan” – “not offence,” but we are the one’s with a journalism school.

by duckfoshomofo on Nov 24, 2008 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

J-Stew was a great player

I said he was the best back in oregon’s history.

He had one really great season and about 2/3 as many career yards as Bernard. He carried the ducks to their first bowl win in 7 years almost all on his own. He pushed a team with a horrible defense to a 5th place finish in the conference. They would have never been able to finish that high without his offensive exploits.

Roses are Orange.

by CV3000 on Nov 24, 2008 11:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I can't resist,

How is good ol’ Yvenson doing these days?

I heart taxes.

by everett on Nov 25, 2008 11:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He's talking to the Falcons, turns out they only needed a NFL QB with a pulse to win

Roses are Orange.

by CV3000 on Nov 25, 2008 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh goody,

Well, since you’re obviously up on things… How’s Snoop doin?

I heart taxes.

by everett on Nov 25, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Great

Has had a couple 100-yard games, and a couple multi-TD games. Panthers org is really banking on him, very proud of him.

Alright time's up lez do this...

by qrsouther on Nov 25, 2008 9:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

2/3 as many yards in one less season right? The only downside to Bernard was his lack of legitimate D1 speed, see 4.4 yards/carry and consistently getting tackled by lineman from behind. He made up for it in heartiness though. He was able to single handily get his team to, what, it’s third best finish ever and a glamorous Emerald Bowl win over a team with a losing record? The problem with calling out a 5th place finish is weren’t the Beavers 3rd or so? So basically your saying the Beavers are better losers? OK. That could change this weekend for you…

by duckfoshomofo on Nov 25, 2008 8:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I stopped reading

when you said that the 6th leading rusher in Pac-10 history didn’t have legitimate D-1 speed.

I’m also not sure when 3rd became worse than 5th.

I thought you had some good things to say in this discussion… you really, really had me going for awhile.

Roses are Orange.

by CV3000 on Nov 25, 2008 11:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Bernard was an awesome running back at the D1 level,

and speed was never his issue (although, if I remember correctly he was S-L-O-W at the combines). That being said, he does not have the size or the toughness to move on successfully to the NFL.

I heart taxes.

by everett on Nov 25, 2008 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Aaaaand Yv is just ACHING to prove you wrong, Mr. Meadows.

Alright time's up lez do this...

by qrsouther on Nov 25, 2008 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The Beavs

Thanks for the injury updates!
At this point, I don’t think it really matters much. These Beavs can really play. They find ways to win so our Ducks have to play strong from start to finish on Saturday.

GO DUCKS!!!

by ATLDuck on Nov 25, 2008 10:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs