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Pac-10 Roundtable: RVM Stole My Pants Edition

So I woke up this morning, struggling to find my way to my alarm clock as it was beeping non-stop. I took a shower, brushed my teeth, did all the things I normally do. There was just one problem...my pants were missing. I looked high and low but alas, I couldn't find them. I put on my khakis and left for the day. I get home later that day and low and behold, a note from RVM from BtD fame. Thanks for letting me borrow your pants. The chicks loved them! Your pal - RVM. No problem RVM. Glad I could help....

Now on to the roundtable for this week!

1. Now that the regular season is over, who in the mainstream press wrote the stupidest article about your team? And, for a little bit of a challenge, who wrote the smartest article / nugget of insight about your team?

Ah my personal favorite Oregonian employee, John Canzano, calling for Mike Bellotti's head

I know The Oregonian's Ken Goe thinks moving on from a stagnant coach is a dumb idea. But Goe's attitude about clinging to what you know because you're afraid of the unknown is reflective of a small-town mentality. If you're OK with playing in the Vegas Bowl, and dreaming of El Paso once every five years, then stick to what you know, and let your fears serve as the compass. Bellotti did a nice job in raising the profile, but those swoons are too much. The Ducks have tapped out what they'll do under him. Nobody should "chase out" Bellotti, but it's not lost here that change would be good.

Or this article by John... 

There's no "told you so" here. Just the realization that many of you realize the program might have outgrown the man who helped create some of the expectations. The point in college football, or with any team, is to improve. And it's become clear to many that the Ducks aren't just stagnant, but slipping back to the pack.

As far as the smartest article, I'll have to point to George Schroeder's take on Nick Aliotti. 

We track offenses by yards, and first downs, and most of all, points, and it’s a positive accounting method. Go three-and-out three times, but score a touchdown the next two times? Nice half. Meanwhile, defense is about avoiding negatives. The best you can do is zero — points, yards, first downs, third-down conversions, whatever. Hold ’em three-and-out three times, then give up two TDs? Fire the coordinator. The job is set up for failure.

 

2.  You can have either Jacquizz Rodgers or Jahvid Best for one year. Which one do you want on your team?

 

As much as I like Jacquizz and fear his game over the next 3 years, I think I would take Jahvid Best. Both players have pretty equal stats in most categories. Best is more of a "big play" guy where Quizz is a 3-4 yards every play style back. For me, it comes down to options on offense and I think Best gives you the most opportunities on later downs. Best averages 7.6 yards on 1st down and 9.91 yards on second down. He picked up the 1st down on 63% of his chances at 3 yards or less. Quizz averages 4.97 and 4.89 yards per attempt on 1st and second downs respectively and averages 60% on his chances on 3rd down with 3 yards or less.

Outside of all the statistics, I like Best's breakaway speed and big play nature. Quizz seems to get caught a little easier in the second level. Ask me this question in 2 years though and my answer may change.

 

 

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3.  Though the Pac-10 missed out on two BCS teams, the bright side is that there are a lot of good bowl matchups. Which are you looking forward to the most?

The Holiday Bowl, without question, will be the game to watch for fans of teams in the Pac-10. This game will determine how the country ultimately views the Pac-10 this year. Of course, the other marquee games in the conference are important but for different reasons. USC and Oregon State will both be favored in their games and expected to win. Oregon, by contrast, will most likely be the underdog against the media darling Big-12 team Oklahoma State, a very similar team to the Ducks. If Oregon wins this game, it redeems the Pac-10 in the eyes of many across the nation. Combined with wins by USC and Oregon State, it could help ease the pain of the early out-of-conference losses.

 

4.  BigXII/Pac10 Hardwood Challenge.  Great Hardwood Challenge or the Greatest Hardwood Challenge?

Hard to say that it is the "greatest" hardwood challenge considering all of the talent in teams outside the two conferences but it has proven to be a great showcase of the Big-12 and Pac-10. With 2 games to go, the best the Pac-10 can hope for is a tie at 6-6. Teams seem fairly matched and it will be interesting to see how the remaining games go. Oregon beating Kansas State was a huge win for a young team. 

 

5. Word association!  What's the first word that pops into mind when you think of your team's bowl destination?  Discuss!

Rebuilding

That was the word that most Duck fans batted around at the beginning of the year. We didn't know how the team was going to end up and most folks were hoping for an 8-4 season. 9-3, a great Civil War win and a Holiday Bowl berth? Exceeded all expectations. With that, I give you the top 10 reasons why San Diego is awesome.

 

10. Averages 66 degrees in December

9. Who didn't have a crush on Winnie Cooper from The Wonder Years

8. Igor Olshansky

7. They have a nice zoo

6. You can also swim with the dolphins

5. "You boys like Mexico?!"

4. T'Pol is from there. You know, the Vulcan from Enterprise

3. Lucha Libre is alive and well

2. They won't teach you "Ropert is God!" because Hypnotism is banned by public schools in San Diego

1. Dan Fouts, enough said

 

 

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Congratulations on the strangest top 10 I’ve ever read.

It's spelled "S-H-U-C-F-A-D-O-D-N-C-S"

Please, ask me about CFADODNCS.

by JShufelt on Dec 9, 2008 9:46 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All with a San Diego flare!

--Dominic

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Dec 9, 2008 9:51 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and completely void of any anchorman refs. well done. i don’t have anything against anchorman, it’d just be the easy way out.

It's spelled "M-A-R-C-H-I-N-G-B-A-N-D."

I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Dec 9, 2008 7:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your mistrust of Anchorman disturbs me greatly.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Dec 9, 2008 10:43 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i love anchorman, don't get me wrong.

it’s just the obvious first san diego reference and i’m glad dominic didn’t go there.

It's spelled "M-A-R-C-H-I-N-G-B-A-N-D."

I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Dec 10, 2008 12:13 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I fear I previously had you wrong.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 8:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ll go there…

afternoon delight!

j-carp

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 9:27 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know, that's the one thing Oregon State has lacked

We have had great running backs since Simonton (minus Dwight Wright), yet none of them had that breakaway speed. Steven Jackson might have been closest, but even still, they’ve all been great vision runners, not hit the corner and run-like-hell guys

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Dec 9, 2008 9:56 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the style of back is very important based on your offensive line.

If you have an offensive line that can open up big holes, and give the back some room to work with, I’d take a back like Best.

But if your offensive line isn’t as good, I’d take Quizz, who made yards out of nothing all year long.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Dec 9, 2008 9:59 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

j-carp takes Best

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 9, 2008 12:03 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quizz is a stud...

…but so it Jahvid Best.

It’s funny that I just had a similar debate over at BtD. Actually, someone had claimed the only reason Best put up similar numbers is because Quizz had to miss 2 games and he played against far superior talent.

My response was that, like Quizz, Best ALSO missed time due to injuries and was used very sparingly his first couple games back from injury, and really on played one half of his last game – you know, where he still managed 300+ yards.

Each team plays a 12 game schedule, and three of those are OOC. So in reality 75% of the games played are against the same competition.

I wasn’t taking away anything from Quizz, and I think he deserves the Offensive Player of the Year award. But, I didn’t think it was right to basically take away from what Best accomplished.

Here’s what really got me about Jahvid Best and Jaquizz Rogers:

Total Carries: Best – 174 Rodgers – 259
Total Rush Yards: Best – 1394 Rodgers – 1253
Yards Per Carry: Best – 8.01 Rodgers – 4.84

Pretty impressive stuff by Best. Not to say I cannot wait to see what Quizz does in the upcoming years.

But at this points I’d give the slight advantage to Best.

by Pac10Rivalry on Dec 9, 2008 12:12 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two reasons San Diego sucks.

1) My ex lives there
2) It’s in Southern California

If you can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter

by Old Ducker on Dec 9, 2008 2:15 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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