Reply to Dave has crossed to the Dark Side:

by bcsbusters on May 17, 2008 11:06 PM PDT

I tried to comment in the comments section, but there was no avenue for doing so on this website. Not sure why, but here is my response to this idiotic rationalization.

Dave,

The fact that college football only plays 12 games in a season is why everyone pays attention to the games more so than say, basketball which has 40, or baseball which plays upwards of 55-60 games. It is a simple dynamic relating to the laws of supply and demand. With less opportunity to view a contest, the demand is greater. It has nothing to do with the BCS.

The reason why demand in the past was less than the current BCS era, from the 1950's per say to 1990, is the fact that cable television and the internet hadn't reached its zenith and grown to an exponential level like it has now.

More people watch it today because more rural areas have cable television, and with the rapid expansion of the internet, due high speed, wireless and satellite capabilities, more people have access to watch ALL of the games. They don't watch it because of the BCS's influence, they watch it because it is popular as it always has been, but there are simply more avenues to view a game.

College football is more popular now because there is more access. All the BCS does is bring down the game at the end of the season because the majority of the fans do not agree with it's conclusions to a large degree.

I agree that a "NORMAL" style of playoff is not the answer, which is why I have developed the playoff proposal as part of my book manuscript over at www.ncaa-schedule.com

My proposal eliminates the bogus September match-ups by requiring all teams to begin their seasons with the conference games, much like Oregon and UW this coming season, and saves room in the regular season (last 4 weeks) to determine the conference championships. Thus you would have an 8 team tournament in the BCS bracket during weeks 11 and 12 and the results of this bracket would determine the bowl games. There would be four brackets (BCS, Holiday, NIT and Sportsmans) which would determine the bowl games. With this method, we would truly get a true and battle tested match-up as the elite teams (determined by the actual results on the field - not a unionized poll mechanism) would be on a collision course to meet on the field.

The problem with the BCS, is the fact that teams do not play legitimate schedules and yet are still rewarded (via a pretty record) with a BCS bowl game. In the BCSBusters Model, you would not only have to earn your bowl berth, but your schedule in the process.

Dave, please give us some critical thinking instead of the same old and tired mandates that support the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commision and the Council on Foreign Affairs, which are the true shadow administrators that control not only our Government, but the BCS through continuous and media supported mind wars emphasizing the control of the American Population in an effort to provide us with the NEW WORLD ORDER, of which the BCS plays part to.

If you question this, simply follow the money trail in college football, which will lead to Big Oil, which will lead to the Ford, Rockefeller and Carnegie Foundations, which will lead to the UNITED NATIONS and COUNCIL ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS.

College football is a trillion dollar industry and now plays a direct role in world economies since it has become a certain fact that we have now entered the post-oil era. The slightest shifts involving any economic indicator will have drastic effects on the world economy and college football is big business to the oil industry and American economics, which is big business to the world economies.

Due to the fact that the media has become corrupt and politicized (the Carnegie, Ford, Rockefeller and Rothschild families own the media - ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX and ESPN) the year-to-year poll shenanigans allow the teams that have the greatest impact on the game financially to profit from the BCS, and hence, the central banks profit the most as well. If you have ever wondered why college football, especially under the BCS, has the strong odor of Monarchy, Oligarchy and Monopoly, you simply need to understand that the people who OWN (literally) and control the game have operated under this mode of operandi for nearly 300 years, dating back to the very roots of our country.

The problem here is the fact that although the LSU's, Ohio State's, Florida's and USC's of the world have a greater connection to these foundations (which support the Council on Foreign Affairs, which support the NEW WORLD ORDER), it doesn't equate into superiority on the field as the Boise State's, Oregon's, Kansas's and Missouri's of the world have proven.

Thus we get the same old tired propaganda which supports the BCS (essentially all of the issues involving in the comments section have been presented before, and this couldn't be father from the truth).

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I completely disagree with Dave's point, however, I was taken aback by the confrontational tone of this post and had to post a reply - point by point.

"I tried to comment in the comments section, but there was no avenue for doing so on this website."

Umm you click the comments link then you get a spot to comment - it ain't hard and it's been done a lot across Sports Blog Nation

"here is my response to this idiotic rationalization."

Thus, I assumed what followed would be a reply to Dave's rationalization - we'll see.

"The reason why demand in the past was less than the current BCS era, from the 1950's per say to 1990, is the fact that cable television and the internet hadn't reached its zenith and grown to an exponential level like it has now. "
This is probably totally right, however Dave said nothing about the BCS creating more demand. All he said that was a playoff would diminish the importance of the regular season.

"I agree that a "NORMAL" style of playoff is not the answer, which is why I have developed the playoff proposal as part of my book manuscript over at www.ncaa-schedule.com"

I'm going to assume then that the proposal will be something that actually has a chance to be adopted knowing that the powers that be don't like a lot of change (something that happens when a group is experiencing great success - measured by dollars).

"My proposal eliminates the bogus September match-ups by requiring all teams to begin their seasons with the conference games, much like Oregon and UW this coming season, and saves room in the regular season (last 4 weeks) to determine the conference championships."

So are you going to get rid of most non-conference match-ups? Or just reduce the umber of conference match-ups (I bet you mean the former but you weren't really clear so I'll try and address both options). The problem with the getting rid of the former is that it can guarantee some fun interesting match-ups (OSU/Texas, Cal/Tenn, Oregon/Michigan, and Notre Dame/Navy will be fun from a historical perspective). Getting rid of the former would make crowning a conference champion ever harder to do (and be less satisfying as fans).

Now lets turn to whether or not this is a realistic proposal. Will coaches and conferences want to get rid of non-conference match-ups? - well if the recent ACC decision (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3394329) is any indication, no, they like their easy games. Will coaches and conferences want to get rid conferences games? - this I don't know, but as a fan I hope not, I like our conference rivalries, loosing a game against Cal, USC, or UW every year would be, well, sad.

"There would be four brackets (BCS, Holiday, NIT and Sportsmans) which would determine the bowl games. With this method, we would truly get a true and battle tested match-up as the elite teams (determined by the actual results on the field - not a unionized poll mechanism) would be on a collision course to meet on the field."

I appreciate where your coming from, but how would you settle ties? Because you abhor human polls I assume you will use a computed metric (AKA computer pulls), well no controversy there because there are only a couple to choose from . . . oh wait.

"Dave, please give us some critical thinking instead of . . . "

Unrealistic fantasies that don't take into account the current power structure of the NCAA?

" . . . instead of the same old and tired mandates that support the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commision and the Council on Foreign Affairs, which are the true shadow administrators that control not only our Government, but the BCS through continuous and media supported mind wars emphasizing the control of the American Population in an effort to provide us with the NEW WORLD ORDER, of which the BCS plays part to."

Unrealistic fantasy it is - and what follows is a completely overblown conspiracy theory. That even if taken seriously provides further evidence that if you're going to change the system it will take small steps not some college football control freaks unrealistic wet dream.

While I have no problem with unrealistic dreams (for example, I'd never tell 4 year old cousin she can't ride a unicorn), I don't think peppering them with insulting comments against someone who knowingly took an unpopular opinion is the way to do it.

Well done BCS Busters

by bradLL99 on May 18, 2008 11:33 AM PDT 0 recs

To be fair...

It looks like it is no longer possible to comment on Dave's original post. Not sure if this due to how old the story is or some SBN bug.

by ntrebon on May 18, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up 0 recs

My bad

damn

by bradLL99 on May 18, 2008 5:57 PM PDT up 0 recs

Good job Brad...

You took the effort to actually rebut this fool.

by jtlight on May 19, 2008 10:15 AM PDT up 0 recs

Thanks to both

BCS Busters for posting a reply and to Brad for the defense.

As for being more popular, I'm not quite sure that's all due to access. I'm telling you, I don't watch Cal-Tennessee whatsoever without the BCS. I don't give a rats ass about (insert this year's BCS Buster here) unless they have a chance to make havoc.

Eliminating non-conference games isn't the answer, that takes away a lot of fun matchups (now, if you want to outlaw games against 1-AA creampuffs, I'm all for that).

I'm don't think I'm really anti-playoff (as I said, I had advocated for one for years), but I am starting to grow fond of the current system. Is it perfect? Not at all. Fair? Not at all. But fun? You bet it is. And fun is what its all about.

by Addicted to Quack on May 18, 2008 8:39 PM PDT 0 recs

I guess you'd have to read the six part series...

I created at www.bcsbusters.wordpress.com/ or an even better illustration at www.ncaa-schedule.com

The non-conference games would not be eliminated, they would be enhanced as they would occur as part of the regular season in the last four weeks. Every team would earn an invitation to one of four brackets.

It would take drastically too long to demonstrate this to you folks so I guess you'd have to spend a little time researching the issue. Visit these links for a greater understanding.

http://www.ncaa-schedule.com/Site/Playoff_Brackets.html

http://bcsbusters.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/national-expansion-for-college-football-part-i/

http://www.ncaa-schedule.com/Site/Blog/Entries/2007/12/27_Challenging_The_Rebuttals.html

http://www.ncaa-schedule.com/Site/Blog/Entries/2008/1/20_The_Final_Analysis%3A__The_quality_opponent _(QOF-factor)_rankings!.html

You will have to pardon me for coming on a little strong because I am getting tired of people telling us how great the BCS is when it is at the core of what is wrong with this country. If that is your opinion Dave, you are certainly entitled, just don't expect everyone to embrace it and the current runs both directions for I don't expect everyone to embrace my views as well, but what I would suggest is researching my point of view before jumping to conclusions.

Monarchy, Oligarchy and Monopoly is not the way to go. Of course if you spent a little time understanding how the current system relates to the Council on Foreign Affairs and the Bilderberg Group you could actually recognize that this is far from a conspiracy theory for the same people who orchestrate these plans for world domination have spent millions of dollars in research to develop psycho mind wars with the public so they have an instant turn off switch at the first instant something sounds controversial or conspiritorial (not sure if that is even a word).

Of course if you've spent five years researching this issue Brad, you may become enlightened for without even bothering to spend 30 seconds considering my point of view, you've instantly tossed it out that I am a conspiracy nut, which is exactly what people like the Rand Corporation (our government spends millions and earns millions for their involvement with this group) or the Tavistock Institute banks on. For your information Brad, the same people who are the CEO's and Board of Directors within the media and the foundations that control the media are on the Council of Foreign Relations and the Rand Corporation and Tavistock. If you follow it you can easily connect the dots.

So your welcome Brad, you really have shown your critical thinking skills for you don't have the first clue what the heck you are talking about and thanks for jumping to conclusions as you've demonstrated throughout your analysis, especially regarding the instructions for the comments section within this website.

Why don't you dazzle me with some insights into how you would fix a system that is not only unlawful, but runs against the very fabric of what this nation once stood for, against the very fabric of what our boys who fight and die in wars believe in, which give us our supposed freedoms. Every team is not free to compete for a national championship and if you embrace the BCS you are embracing the very people who profit from a class system of Monarchy, Oligarchy and Monopoly throughout the world.

I apologize if I don't stand around and have (in your terms Brad) a wet dream over the benefits of the BCS...I don't apologize for actually spending five years researching the issues in terms of what is really going on or how to fix it. I appreciate you being man enough Dave to take a little constructive criticism for the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. The next time Oregon gets hosed by the BCS I wonder if you will be writing what a great system this is.

"A Regular Season Bracketed Playoff - Truly making every game a playoff in college football while upholding the tradition of the bowls."

by bcsbusters on May 18, 2008 9:44 PM PDT 0 recs

5 years

You've been researching this for 5 years? Do you have a job or is your research subsidized? If subsidized, where does that money come from?

by kddean on May 19, 2008 9:20 AM PDT up 0 recs

The New World Order

aka Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash and Scott Hall

by DuckinNC on May 19, 2008 9:48 AM PDT up 0 recs

Wow

"I apologize if I don't stand around and have (in your terms Brad) a wet dream over the benefits of the BCS..."

Actually I have never supported the BCS system, and don't think you need to apologize for it. Furthermore, the point of my reply was not to say that you were a conspiracy nut, that was just an unintended benefit.

The point was that you actually offer no realistic solution. In fact, you later make the point that the powers that be are likely going to resist change. So, I would think that if you can recognize their rigidness* then you could recognize that completely revamping the regular and post season of college football would be a tad difficult. Rather a small step like a +1 system would be a reasonable thing to actively lobby for.

*I feel justified in talking about the rigidness to changes because I can reference recent decisions against change (e.g. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3375352 http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3394329) rather than linking to my own ramblings.

by bradLL99 on May 19, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up 0 recs

Dear lordy...

The first half of the original post was cogent, and then took a turn to super-paranoid-crazy town, and only got worse in the reply. This is some of the most paranoid crap I've ever read, second only to 9/11 truthers. Straw men everywhere, and flat out delusional comments at every turn.

Apparently, College Football is 1/13th of the ENTIRE GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT </sarcasm&gt. I also never thought I'd hear someone wacky enough to try to compare college football and the council on foreign affairs. I also love how you have become "enlightened," another conspiracy theorist hot button word. Seriously, give me a break.

A lot of us disagreed with Dave, but you sir did so in such a way as to not even respect his opinions. To me, that is intolerable. Dave is entitled to his opinions, as we all are. You are entitled to your opinions, but if you come here, do it in a respectful manner. Try to prove your point, and use facts to back up what you say, rather than making know it all comments (that are false anyway) about "connecting the dots" and all sorts of other ridiculous statements. You are not more intelligent on this topic than anyone here, and it's obvious that your "5 years" are completely worthless.

Don't come to our website and act superior. You are a pathetic delusional conspiracy theorist. Do not come here and deride the people on these boards. If you want to spread your ridiculous opinions, do so in a respectful manner. You are winning no friends, and give a bad name to those of us that want a playoff.

by jtlight on May 19, 2008 9:55 AM PDT 0 recs

HAHAHAHAh

Ok, after cooling down a bit, I just have to friggin laugh.

This is some of the most uninformed, worthless crap I've ever read. I mean, sure, I think everyone can admit that the big, tradition oriented schools benefit from the BCS, but New World Order? Give me a break. I love the "if you question this comment," which insinuates that you're some idiot if you don't buy this lunacy. It's a real shock this guys book deal hasn't been picked up.

by jtlight on May 19, 2008 10:04 AM PDT up 0 recs

it's weird

His blog says that he's a Beaver, for whatever that's worth.
I actually read a couple of articles, he defends Oregon and the individual Pac 10 teams.
I just don't get the conspiracy theory stuff.
To each his own.

by kddean on May 19, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

I agree

He has some good points, but it's too bad that his conspiracy nature (and tone) makes just about anything he says completely unreliable.

by jtlight on May 19, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up 0 recs

One other note...

BCS Busters is the same guy that came here a while back, claimed that Bellotti was leaving for UCLA, citing credible information, and promised an apology if wrong. Well, one never came.

That alone should give him no credibility in these parts.

http://www.addictedtoquack.com/story/2007/12/22/14315/942

by jtlight on May 19, 2008 9:57 AM PDT 0 recs

Believe I implied in that response that if I was..

wrong then I apologize for reporting this. Many of you don't realize how close that came to being. Without an immediate counter offer from Knight and the boys, Bellotti was gone. You noticed how quickly that contract (that had been in negotiation for months) suddenly got signed.

I simply came on here to express my view based on my research which has been done on my dime since I also teach and coach. I am not a conspiracy theorist. I simply followed the connections after tying in the many correlations between the Big Oil empire and the BCS empire. You look for patterns of behavior and there are over 18 significant patterns of behavior, as well as many of the same key players, but American's aren't into researching history, they just constantly complain about the prices at the pump and their grocery bill and their taxes and wonder why the middle class is shrinking.

This is typical of the way people respond to conspiracies, immediately discrediting them and the authors. I honestly didn't expect anything different on this site. It is almost laughable and surreal how quickly I have been discredited - easily predictable.

If you bother to actually read a few books and dive into research these things are easily put together, but of course the dollar is simply doing wonderful today, the middle class is most certainly on the rise, the Bush family never really supported Hitler and the Nazi's before, during and after WW-II (along with Rockefeller, JP Morgan and the Ford and Carnegie Foundations and the Federal Reserve really doesn't control our government, just the currency), do you see the significance in that? 9-11, Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the Lucittania were really legitimate disasters, not false flag operations designed to illicit the classic patriot response of Americans so the military industrial complex could profit from perpetual war.

I myself would be right on board with you people if had heard this myself, but unfortunately I am educated on the matter, and I find it quite ironic that I researched and found this information after tying together similarities between the worlds ugliest Monopolies. I simply urge you to look into the matter yourself and make your own judgment, but don't pass judgment unless you are really in the know. I don't really visit this site much although I am a tremendous Oregon fan and I respect Dave, I just don't happen to agree with those who support the BCS because I understand the motive behind the BCS and the role it plays in the larger issues. I have not sent out any manuscripts because the project isn't finished and doubt I ever will based on the knowledge I have at hand. I simply implore you to do your own research, but I also know that Americans rarely do! Most of the American population can't handle the truth!

"A Regular Season Bracketed Playoff - Truly making every game a playoff in college football while upholding the tradition of the bowls."

by bcsbusters on May 19, 2008 4:53 PM PDT up 0 recs

You didn't come here to express your views

You came here and condescended to derided people on this board. I, and others here, believe you to be a crackpot that has spent a lot of time on faulty research.

It is also pathetic to make comments like "If you bother to actually read a few books, and "unfortunately I am educated on the matter." This is insulting. I consider myself an educated individual, having degrees in both history in math. Your claims are quite out there in any historical, academic setting, and you have failed to back up any of that with any facts. All you have given us is claims, and then putting the onus on us to do research, when you cannot even give us one easily verifiable fact to entice us to begin research. "Following the money" does not cut it under even preliminary research.

As I said before, your tone of superiority and derision, as well as your outlandish claims (with no facts to back them up) make you completely unreliable. Please take your "research" elsewhere. It, and your attitude, is not welcome here.

by jtlight on May 19, 2008 5:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

You didn't ask for the facts or the research...

You jumped to conclusions and quickly passed this off as a radical conspiracy theory. When you look at the similarities between college football and Big Oil, you will quickly come to the Rockefeller foundation as Standard Oil is the grand daddy of the Oil Industry. Shell Oil, owned by the British family of Rothschild will quickly jump to the front as well. You can make the connection between what these families have in common in terms of the central banks and the entire history of America at War. Then you can make a strong connection between the Rhodes Scholar, Oxford University and Yale in terms of the development of the CIA and the role this organization has played in Assassinations and War throughout the world in the last 50 years. These organizations lead to the United Nations, Council on Foreign Affairs, the Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission as it relates to the new world order.

How does this relate to the BCS and College Football. Rockefeller and JP Morgan own Citibank and Federal Express, two of the feature sponsors for the BCS throughout its era. JP Morgan created the Federal Reserve in a secret meeting off the coast of Georgia in the early 1900's and this group created the now infamous income tax we all pay. Of course, the 16 amendment was never ratified which makes this an unconstitutional tax. The interconnected families of Rockefeller, Morgan, Rothschild, Carnegie and Ford and the roots of this true essentially run the government today and the own and control the media, which is most likely why you have never studied this information in the university system, because they own the publishing companies as well. I hold two degree's myself and I never knew this information either.

Of course Rockefeller and a host of others who orchestrated the Great Depression (Rothschild, JP Morgan, Carnegie and the Ford Family) also orchestrated the Bank scandals of 1903, 1920 and the Gold recall in 1933.

There are literally thousands of books out there that have chronicled this in great detail...I'm not telling you anything new, but it was new to me because I didn't bother to look or pay attention to what was really going on. The farther you dig on this thing...the deeper it goes and its frightening!

But since you so kindly asked for the details in this I will give it to you. Of course, you could have simply googled and gotten most of it yourself. I'm not being condescending, thats a fact.

Videos:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331

(This video starts a little slow, I do not agree with the segment on religion but he makes a compelling argument as far as the history behind our shadow government and war)

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/270807_tribute.htm

Articles:

http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/illuminatiagendabestoverviewyet8jun02.shtml
http://www.namebase.org/news15.html
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/TRI-1SPT.HTM
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/TRI-CFR.HTM
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/TRILAT.HTM
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/BILDER.HTM
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/CLINROCK.HTM
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/BONES.HTM
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/CIAPRESS.HTM

If you'd like more I can provide it, but this should keep you busy for quite some time.

"A Regular Season Bracketed Playoff - Truly making every game a playoff in college football while upholding the tradition of the bowls."

by bcsbusters on May 19, 2008 8:43 PM PDT up 0 recs

ok....

First, Zeitgeist is one of the most crackpot movies ever created, and I have watched it. It's first and third segments are utterly ridiculous. It's second, I am a bit more open to, but do not buy either (even though I am a Ron Paul supporter (your comments make me think you would be also). Zeitgeist has absolutely no traction in academic circles. I spent a great deal of time researching the first segment especially, as I am a Christian, and much of it is absolute falsehood, and is not backed by any evidence whatsoever. In the second segment, there are false quotes that I double checked because they seemed so outlandish. Believe me, I know my stuff on these topics.

Also, as far as my never studying it in the university system, I went to one of 3 universities in the country that refuses to take government money, so that theory is out. I have written papers on Rockefeller and others, and know all about the income tax. And as far as the great depression goes, I would recommend that you read this article. The federal reserve did play a key in the depression, but it was one of many factors. I really don't want to get into the specifics of many of your arguments because they hold little to no traction in true academic circles.

The true mark of a conspiracy theorist is that they will discredit any sources that are against their claims. Your digs at the academics in our country make me think that you suffer this as well. None of the links you have posted are peer reviewed. None of your theories hold any traction in intellectual/academic circles. This alone does not prove them invalid, but when your main source for this is a conspiracy movie, this further proves my point.

I have heard and researched many of these points before. Again, I know about these claims. I do not buy the, and most educated people do not either.

What really gets me is the connection to the BCS. It holds no logical basis in my mind. There are many reasons to dislike the BCS, but these theories are not them.

by jtlight on May 19, 2008 9:11 PM PDT up 0 recs

Correction...

To the "movie" Zeitgeist, I incorrectly referred to the order of the segments. The only segment that I am even remotely open to is the 3rd, on the federal reserve, which takes a few facts and jumps off the deep end in terms of its conclusion. The second segment is on the 9/11 "truth", which is total bullocks.

by jtlight on May 20, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up 0 recs

Well

I was a history/political science major, as well as a social studies educator, so I feel qualified to commetnt. Linking Gulf of Tonkin (which was almost total fabrication) with 9/11 and Pearl Harbor is irresponsible. To suggest that 9/11 and Pearl Harbor were conspiracies by the military industrial complex is even moreso. Look, I hate Bush as much as the next guy (I have a countdown on my desk counting down the days until he leaves office), and he is a bad man, but there is no legitimate evidence to support that he was behind 9/11. Of course, if you bother to read a few books or do a little research, you might know this.

Now, away from the political portion of this comment. I have respected and enjoyed the work that you have done on your blog, and you have always been good on your previos visits here. I always try to promote civil discourse about issues relating to college sports, and welcome all opinions.

I was met with almost universal disagreement in my opinion, which is what I expected. But the tone in your disagreement was flat out rude not in content, but in tone. You acted as if I expected everyone to agree with me (clearly not), but what you were was really upset that I didn't agree with you. You were rude and condecending in my tone. And, when my readers came to my defense and pointed it out, you responded by being more condecending.

You're welcome here anytime, and I think that you have some good points, and some interesting things to say. But work on your presentation. Because neither I nor my readers appreciated having our intelligences insulted nor the holier-than-thou attitude.

In political jargon, we often use the terms carrots and sticks. Please continue to come here and debate the issues. I find the stuff about oil very interesting, and I'd love for the converstation to continue. Do so in a respectful manner, and I'll forget about your attack and pretend it never happened. I'd love to maintain a good working relationship with you and your blog.

That being said, don't make me break out the stick...

by Addicted to Quack on May 19, 2008 9:06 PM PDT up 0 recs

Fine Dave...

I'll go to bed now without my milk and cookies. Search your heart Dave and tell me things in the world are not just a little screwed up and out of order and then ask yourself, where is all of this stuff headed. Tell me then there isn't a little more there than people let on.

Ron Paul is a good man, a man worthy of being a president. Why would he side with Russo and Jones if there wasn't a little more there than meets the eye, especially considering he works within congress and witnesses this for himself. Why would he put himself at risk?

And then ask yourself why would Adams (President at Georgia) and Boren (President at Oklahoma) be members of the Council on Foreign Relations? By the way, Boren was a bigwig in the CIA and his involvement in the 911 conspiracy has been documented in the 9-11 investigation. USC has been awarded one of the largest foundation checks in history to establish the American headquarters for Homeland Defense and have you looked into Donna Shalala's (President of the University of Miami) background. Or what about the new president at LSU and there massive donations they have received from Shell Oil (Rothschild) and ExxonMobile (Rockefeller). The fact that you guys would instantly discredit this without even making an effort to research it shows the extent that this organization has affected the university system, which is utterly dependent (enslavement would be a better word) on Foundation Grants and donations. And ask yourself what all of these people have in common and why do their names keep coming up in all of my research. I can't go anywhere without tripping over the same names.

I didn't intend to write a conspiracy theory Dave, but you can't dismiss this as mere hokus pokus when you look around the world and realize the central banks have financed both sides of every war (specifically the House of Rothschild) since the French Revolution, just like they have stoked the fires of every American issue (Race Riots, Gender Issues and now sporting events to name a few).

Is there a hotter debate out there than the BCS. Would the concepts of divide and conquer and constructive confusion apply? Everyone knows its the worst form of Monopoly you can find in the history of sports? What's the connection Dave, send me down that path and will gladly research it for you, but just like tonight you folks didn't even bother to research this issue before you formed an opinion. I spent two months on this before I began to form mine.

Next time I will put on my kid gloves and be more politically correct so we can all feel good about our selves while our young men are dying in wars while the military industrial complex profits and yet the price of gas explodes around us and our own government pumps millions of gallons of Gas that tax payers buy back into their own reserves. What do you think there going to give us a price cut later? The price of gas will never drop back to where it was 6 months ago.

Maybe, just maybe we are the ones that have been duped. The BCS is heavily connected to big oil and if you are connected to big oil and the men behind it, your connected to this new world order issue. Have a little passion for crying out loud and call a spade a spade once in awhile.

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by bcsbusters on May 19, 2008 10:32 PM PDT up 0 recs

wow

Am I wrong or is this a sports blog? If I want to examine the military industrial complex, I don't come to a college sports blog to discuss and dissect.

"Is there a hotter debate out there than the BCS." Yes there are.

"I spent two months on this before I began to form mine" I thought you've been researching this for 5 years? Kidding aside, being the researcher that you claim to be, you didn't go in with a hypothesis to find if it was true or false?

"Next time I will put on my kid gloves and be more politically correct so we can all feel good about our selves..." No, how about not being a self-righteous a-hole that denegrates everyone's opinion that differs from yours? I actually went to your website and found some things interesting before I responded to anything. But by your tone and aggression, not to mention your lovely spelling and grammatical mistakes, why would I want to be on your side? You act like a Rush Limbaugh-type, if people don't agree with you, immediately, then they're wrong. You can't be disputed because you have "facts". Great, good for you. Opinions are subjective, and that's what you have, an opinion. Others are allowed to have theirs as well.

Or is this your sneaky way of getting web hits and maybe some sucker will buy your book? Cheeky moneky.

And by the way about the Bellotti to UCLA thing, you said that you would apologize if you're wrong. Still haven't seen that.

by kddean on May 20, 2008 5:57 AM PDT up 0 recs