There should be a rather low quality vid on Youtube of Jonathan’s 88 yard cut or two, one’s a field angle. You might’ve ignored them for the aforementioned reasons.

I’ll post my own remembrances of the game later. School now. I’ll tell you write now they’re gonna sound a whole lot like yours, Dave.

It appears that this blog is in response to the last game FSU played against Oregon at Bulldog Stadium. It sounds like you are very proud of what Oregon has accomplished against Fresno State. However, although I agree they have all been close games, let’s not forget about the 2005 season. I’m sure you remember that game.

Let’s recap: Fresno State up 17-0 in the second half and Oregon was driving in hope of finally getting on the scoreboard, but, Oregon fumbled the ball on that drive. Fresno State recovered and was in position to continue DOMINATING Oregon. But, wait, the Pac-10 officials review the play and despite the “clear” fumble, it was still given back to Oregon, which they ultimately scored and finally got on the scoreboard.

Then 16 consecutive penalties were called against Fresno State (to Oregon’s 6), which allowed Oregon to get back in the game and ultimately win by a field goal. All of this while at Auzten (sic) Stadium. This type of stuff also happened later than season against USC (Reggie Bush stepping out of bounds), but we’ll leave that for another conversation.

So the point is, don’t get too happy because Oregon continually squeaks out close victories over Fresno State while FS is on the road. You can thank the Pac-10 officials and the “Big Conferences” v. “mid-major conferences” mentality that “protects” the big schools and assures their victory in hopes of getting into the bigger BCS bowl games.

The college game is about $$$ and major conferences, which Fresno State isn’t apart of. So I wouldn’t toot your horn all that loud cause Fresno State (heart and talent wise, along with mental toughness) would handle any Pac-10 school “anytime, anyplace.” Ask USC from that 2005 game when they were Ranked No. 1 and they’d let you know that thank goodness the Pac-10 officials saved that season for them, cause the real ass kicking happened to both Oregon and USC that year.

Fresno State is on the verge of doing something special this year, and I hope that we go undefeated, get into a BCS game and play the likes of Oregon on a neutral field on the national stage (without Pac-10 officials) and watch what happens.

Poor officiating is not the point. The point was about bigger conferences getting the love because money and politics is what its all about. Please don’t talk to me about winning conference titles cause what has oregon won? Oregon gets the hype every season until they lose 2-4 games in conference and goes to a subpar bowl game, whipty do. And, if you saw that game, then you saw the fumble when FSU was up 17 and you were holding on to the goose egg.

I don’t know about calling Fresno State fans annoying – that may be your own bias, but the arrogance that reaps from Autzun stadium, knowing that Oregon is going to get that win, is far worse than what can be said about the pride that comes from FSU fans. That’s all we got – hard work and pride.

And you’re right, we are in the “inferior” WAC, and we don’t have the 4 star recruits, nor do we have the biggest or strongest players. But regardless we got the heart to take the likes of USC, Wisconsin, etc. punch for punch. Player for player without all the bells and whistles of Pac-10 vs. WAC, big v. small, we’d push any pac-10 school around by simple hard nose football.

No one is doubting that the Oregons get the advantage with the Dixon’s and Bush’s and all the millions of $$$ that goes to your conferences, but as you admitting, we got you “scared.” That’s more rewarding that what the record indicates.

What saves you against opponents like Fresno State is your home field and officials. And if you want to call that last trick play on the extra point by belotti at Bulldog Stadium in 06’ as a great victory, well go ahead and boast that pride. But what that really said was your coach knew he wouldn’t be able to stop FSU with the amount of time left, so the only way to assure a victory was to do a trick play in the waning seconds of the game. Ask OK how they feel about Boise doing that trick play at the end. Not much of a moral victory.

I’ve seen all the games against Oregon and all have been close, all but one at your house and the Refs definately played a role in the outcome and my point was simply because of where the money is. “Three game, three beatings” is a joke.

We could go back and forth, but what matters most is who is scared and who is not. We have far less talent and despite the extra push you get from the refs, we still role punch for punch.

Like I said, this is yet another year we have an opportunity to go undefeated and if Oregon can actually play better in their own conference, maybe we’ll get you on a neutral field to play some smash mouth Bulldog Football in a major bowl game. There’s a reason why Kansas State and Wisconsin did, and tried to get out of a game with Fresno State this year and you’ve said it best – “scared”...”with everything to lose.”

Our trolling friend Bulldogfaithful keeps using this big vs. little and us vs. them excuse as to why his team has never beaten the Ducks. Unless my memory has escaped me didn’t Boise State go undefeated and beat a Oklahoma powerhouse in the Fiesta Bowl?

Now if your lame ass theory holds true then BSU should not have even been close, let alone WIN. I love that game and I saw no referee basis against a smaller Non-BSC team.

Maybe you should alter your excuse to this- The big time conference refs hate US and love every other WAC team and for that matter every other Non-BSC team except us. Wooies me.

Do me a favor go back to your own fan website, stop trolling others fan sites and trying to start something that isn’t there. This post (on our own fansite) was merely a recap of last year games, there outcomes and the reasons the game ended the way it did. Your pissing and moaning and lack of any original or even legitimate reasons for defeat serve no purpose. I think you should leave the past alone and worry about the teams you have on your schedule this year. Defending a game you lost last year will do nothing for your team this year.

If you have problems with fans that have a different viewpoint, or may see something different than you, then maybe you should charge a fee for this blog; thus, only people who care, and want to talk all that positive, go ducks crap would sign up.

Otherwise, this is free blog and I will comment all I want. If you don’t like it, then don’t come back to the conversation. Mind you, this quacky site was only found because I “searched” Fresno State Football. If it wasn’t for whom ever is the host of this site to write a blog quoting his readers talking about , “As BLAZERPROPHET so eloquently put it: "FSU is a quality team and we just flat out kicked their ass,” then I wouldn’t have felt compelled to state my point of view (which is stated above).

Of course I don’t expect Oregon fans to agree with me about the refs, or the major conference love, and every point I made above, but all you guys have done is talk shit about Fresno, Fresno State fans, name calling and minimalizing what I am talking about here. So have some class.

Not once have you said anything about your football program, coaching philosophy, or what not. All any of you have said is that I’m trolling, not welcomed and Oregon and it’s fans are just so superior, and that is what is expected, right? Oregon as a whole is nothing compared to California, so I don’t know what all that pride is about.

Not once have you ever refuted my statements with any football knowledge, or recall any plays that disproves what I am saying. Simply saying, ” I remember that game, I don’t remember terrible officiating…”Again, you need to get off the reffing. I do not remember the said fumble at all”....”Pat Hill is a baby, and a whiner, full of excuses, and this comes out in your post, complaining about reffing and Oregon running a fake play.”

I’m not complaining, I’m stating facts. I saw all the games too, and I see the home field advantage play throught the refs, I saw the 2005 game and, yes, that was a fumble, and the reason I know this is because the Pac-10 institutes instant replay, which, as you remember (since you all claim to have watched it), it slowly shows frame by frame the ball coming out of your back’s hands while his knee is about 5 inches from the ground. And at that moment the score was 17-0 in favor of the road team. And you did what after they gave the ball back – finally were allowed to score. cause you didn’t score on our defense up to that point.

So all this talk about, “Because Dave TOTALLY said that we kicked your ass in 05”...”So you guys, playing the dirty style of football that you play, accredit losing to us by a FG to the officials?”....”are you butthurt that you got your ass whooped, no strings attached?”..” FSU fans think they can hang with the big dogs.” What big dogs? What was it about any of the games the two schools have played that makes any of you guys even think that way?

Because of what happened in 2007? Please, Fresno State was coming off a 3OT loss based on another controversial call over at College Station the week prior having a little tango with the aggies. So, yes, you got a tired Fresno State team coming off a harsh road loss coming into your house..again. And yes you have a fast scrambling QB at that time that was pretty hard to keep up with.

Or if your talking about the 2006 game in Fresno, what? It was close the entire time, low scoring and a trick play and the end gave Oregon the win, so what? But yet you guys boast so much pride as though you have just man handled FSU each and everytime. Tone it down a bit and get a little more educated on the topic before you start spewing at the mouth.

Please, and all this talk about beating a BCS school once of twice a year, come on guys, you know football don’t you? Ask yourself how many of you “big boys” want to come play on the road at Fresno State. I have the answer – 5. Out of the 38 games Pat Hill, the whiner to you, scheduled against BCS opponents, only 5 have come to the Valley. And if you’re going to tell me that home field means nothing, then you guys should come down more often.

Do you think that it is random that Kansas State, or “big boys” to you, wanted out of their third game with us just because they really wanted Montana State? Or, do you think it’s random that Wisconsin offered to pay 1Mil to FSU to change their 9/13 show down from Fresno to Lambaugh Field? Why don’t the Beavers play us anymore? Come one guys, open your eyes and remove the wool from over them. You can’t be that naive, or that self consumed with blinded admiration of your beloved ducks.

People don’t steer clear from us, or will only play at their house because of nothing. So don’t marginalize my rants and start talking shit about me personally or our fan base just because you’re blind fans that only wants to see and believe what best suits you. I talk facts and each and everyone one of them can be substatiated. It’s on tape and the camera don’t lie.

In closing, if you don’t want non-oregon fans here, then don’t talk shit about things that aren’t true. Oregon does not kick Fresno States ass each and everytime they play. Only one game was a blow out. All the others, which is more than three (only shows your lack of knowledge) have been decided by mere field goals, which as I stated have been helped by refs and a trick play here or there.

And as I stated more than once. I HOPE both Fresno State and Oregon play out and win their conferences with near perfect records to, oh let’s say, get into the Rose Bowl, or Orange Bowl and then the nation will get to see whose ass has really been getting kicked all this time (except one game, I know).

Cheers, fools.

Why did I call you a troll? How about because your inflammatory response HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE ARTICLE WAS ABOUT?

I was talking about last years game-one game-where the final score was 52-21. Sorry, but that’s an ass-kicking. Other games in the series have been very close, as you point out, but ‘07 was nowhere near close. I didn’t comment on the other games, other than a brief statement that they were all close, so I fail to see why you find them relevant. Of course, you seem to think that I claim we kicked your ass in the ‘05 game, an asseration that I never made. That’s why we’re getting irritated with you—because you’ve gone completely off topic in an inflammatory manner.

We do respect your program and felt very proud of not only serving our five game commitment to you while others were punking out, but winning all five games. It is rare among BCS teams to do so unscathed.
And to say that FSU always tanks their conference schedule—I don’t apologize for the truth.

You claim that this is a free blog and you will comment all you want. Realize that you will comment only as long as I allow you to. How long that is will be up to you. We have a reputation for being very welcoming of other teams’ fans, so long as they are respectful. I don’t object to you talking about any of your points here, but please make sure you have read the article and understand it before blasting it and making yourself look like a fool. Because I would find it hard to believe that you are illiterate, the logical excuse for your comments is that you are simply trolling. Otherwise, why would you be so off topic?

Dave, bradll and others, now we’re talking and having a conversation here. I like your talking points, and many of them actually makes sense. And I agree, we haven’t won our conference, we don’t rise up for UTEP, and the likes, and only get up for the “big boys,” and trust me, it upsets me each and every year. Fresno State let’s me down year after year – that’s the life of a mid-major program with “major” aspirations. I know all of this.

The reason we got off topic was all the spewing going on because I was venting about the 2005 game. I knew the Original post by Dave was about the 2007 game, but as soon as I got to “kicked their ass,” it just brought back the near past of 2005, cause that was our year, that was the year Pat Hill could have did something special and finally do what BSU and Hawaii did following the seasons after.

But Oregon gave us an unearned loss regardless of your points of view, THEN we go to the coliseum and go back and forth with USC to get another loss with questionable calls (Reggie Bush running out of bounds on a critical play), but’s let’s not get off point. And because we rise up so hard for the big boys, after that second loss FSU just lost all momentum, which carried over into the 2006 season.

I’m sure you guys can relate as Oregon does the same thing almost every year – ranked, go higher, lose to a couple pac-10 school, fall out of rankings, and get holiday bowl invites. So you guys can at least appreciate my frustration. And you’re right, I didn’t read the article. I knew it was about 2007, but it doesn’t sit well with me when Oregon fans in particular start talking shiznit about kicking FSU ass cause to me, that automatically reminds me of 2005, when we, yet again, had a chance to win the WAC and get into a BCS game.

So the whole point of coming into “your site” was to simply state my case to duck fans about 2005 to anyone that would listen for two reasons. 1) cause I don’t know any duck fans, and 2) if you’re a true fan, then you know as well as I know that Oregon did not win that game. But enough of that already – we’ll never agree.

In fact, there’s a bar here in San Fran called the R Bar and everytime there is a Oregon game on the place is full of you happy fans – and I pleaded my case to them their too. I looked some dude straight in the eyes and said, “if you’re a true fan, then you know Oregon didn’t win.” he just smiled and kinda shrugged. It’s all in good fun. Fresno is my hometown and I will always support Pat Hill and the Bulldogs.

But you guys don’t have to rub it in and remind us of what we already know – Fresno State ultimately tanks a game they should have won. I know, I watch year in and year out. But the overall message that I was saying is that Oregon is not much better than FSU cause we do pretty much the same thing in our respective conferences every year, come in 2nd, 3rd in the conference and get into a subpar bowl game, so don’t act otherwise. That’s all.

But this year, it’s another year where it looks promising, senior QB, preseason ranking and 4 solid games before conference play – I’ll look to them to maintain the momentum and win the WAC, finally.

In closing, as my headings suggest (2005 – progress – it’s about time), it’s about reaching the next plateau, and it is overdue for my beloved Bulldogs. It’s getting closer and closer.

Sorry to impose on your fans only blog.

Pat Hill looks like a walrus.