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Brandon Jennings

If you haven't heard by now, Arizona recruit and All-American point guard Brandon Jennings has spurned Arizona to play in Europe next season.  Jennings was a projected one-and-done player, but decided he had no interest in school, and instead of taking classes, wanted to make some dough.  This leaves Arizona in a bit of a pickle, not that I feel bad for them.

Of course, we all know the effects of other one and done players the last few years, such as Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, Jerryd Bayless, OJ Mayo and Carmelo Anthony.  Europe may start to look like an attractive option to some of these kids, especially as many coaches are becoming weary of them after situations like Mayo's, where the player can leave the school in a lot of trouble with little consequence to themselves.

Of course, the Europe route will allow players to be paid, but is an 18 or 19 year old kid really ready for the culture shock of playing in a different country overseas?

As an NBA fan, I love the one year wait rule.  Sure, the LeBrons and Garnetts were ready, but the vast majority aren't (even Kobe didn't start as a rookie).  If you're not an NBA fan, I can't tell you how frustrating it is to draft a player, have him take four years to develop, then move somewhere else as a free agent after the one season he finally becomes useful.  Not to mention the Korolene Youngs and Ndudi Ebis who never work out, period.  The one year policy is like insurance to an NBA team.

But as a college fan, I hate it.  Oregon hasn't been burned by any of these players, but it isn't really good for the game to have a Durant or Anthony become a big star, then be gone after one year.  If you look at the decline of the popularity of the college game, its because there is no continuity from year to year.

Now, the NBA has already stated that one and dones aren't their problems (just like honest referees, fans, and keeping historical franchises in the cites that have supported them aren't their problem).  But when colleges stop supporting these one and done players, they have to go somewhere, and methinks that the NBA doesn't want them all going to Europe (where some of those Euro teams are starting to win bidding wars with NBA teams).

I stated a few months ago what colleges need to do about the one and done problem.  But I also said that was no guarantee, as there will always be someone who wants to take advantage of the system.  In the above article, Lute Olson proposes a system like college baseball, where you make the decision to enter the draft out of high school, or stay in college at least three years.  I love the idea.  Why not do the same thing in basketball?

Of course, I still hate the idea of high schoolers in the NBA, so why not turn the D-League into a full fledged minor league?  Every team has an affiliate, can carry 12 players, etc.?  You could keep any high schoolers and second round picks, as well as assorted veterans (guys like Ime Udoka and Jemario Moon became solid NBA players, right).  It would give each team an extra stockpile of talent, and allow more time for development and evaluation.

You may think that most players would just declare, but think of the extra risk involved for the player.  The teams won't pick these guys with such lofty picks, knowing that they can't play for at least a year.  Sure, the truly unique talents like LeBron or KG, but Robert Swift isn't a lottery pick in this kind of draft.  Sure, those that have no interest in school will declare and either be picked up late or as a minor league free agent.  Good.  That's the point.  It would give them a place to get paid and develop their game.  But most players would want to stay in school and work their way into higher draft stock.

Its worked in college baseball for years, and that sport is reaching heights its never achieved.

Anyway, just my .02.  What do you all think?

GO DUCKS!!!

--Dave (addictedtoquack@gmail.com)

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Great insight

I’ve been talking up the D-League being a Minor League for a couple years now. You’re exactly right about the current system ruining the college game. Before they come up with the college limitation, I was in favor of either no restriction or a 2 year restriction. 1 year lands in the middle and doesn’t really help anybody.

And a minor league system would help tremendously in terms of re-habbing injuries for veterans. I guess the biggest difficulty would come financially. Which is odd, since David Stern pumps more and more money into his “pet” project, the WNBA, while it keeps losing money year after year. He’s been reluctant to do the same with the NBDL. A lot of the recent growth of the NBDL has as much to do with individual team initiative as anything else.

Terrific site by the way, I’ve been reading for almost a year now. Dennis Dixon and yourself have made me into an Oregon fan.

by Rohan on Jul 11, 2008 8:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice!

Welcome good friend.

Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.

by qrsouther on Jul 11, 2008 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd think a guy like Paul Allen would have no problem

dumping money into an NBDL affiliate, although some of the more cheapskate owners (Donald Sterling, anyone?) may not.

Welcome to the world of Duck fandom. The only negative is that it will take ten years off your life due to heart trauma.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Jul 12, 2008 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice to have you with us atthehive! And excellent to see that #10 has made you drink the electric yellow and forest green Kool-aid!
Dave, great idea with the college baseball system, I love it. I think pretty much every basketball fan I know thinks the 1 year rule doesn’t go far enough and is sad to see the college bball game declining. Please wake up and do something about it NBA!

GO DUCKS!

by KTClovestheducks on Jul 16, 2008 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

College should just pay the players

"Man I want to rec it again." - pualo talking about jscot's long comment

by tominhawaii on Jul 11, 2008 9:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Pay

Where does that money come from? There are less than 20 D-1A schools in the black on the balance sheet with a few of those having zero at the bottom. My opinion is college basketball players should be like college baseball but instead of three years only two years.

Joe

by pointguard10 on Jul 11, 2008 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

absolutely not

If you pay basketball or football players, you also have to pay volleyball players and golfers. The system cannot support that.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Jul 12, 2008 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he was kidding.

...I hope.

Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.

by qrsouther on Jul 12, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought about that

unfortunately, there is no tone in this medium, so sarcasm is hard to pick up.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Jul 12, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never been a fan of the one-year rule. At best it should be two, because the one year step doesn’t really give them a chance to hone in on fundamental development.

People might think going to college ensures a greater understanding of the fundamentals, but the fact is that the NBA and college are rapidly different games based on the rule changes the league has implemented. How much did 3-4 years benefit J.J. Redick?

People think high school players ruined the NBA. It didn’t; they were enabled by bad owners. Max contracts to big men for their potential, fiscal irresponsibility from bad GMs, a constant need for every two guard to replicate MJ’s game when they couldn’t even dribble the ball properly. All of these were bigger issues.

But we’ve transitioned beyond that to a new era, which is why I think the one year rule will be gone by the next CBA. And athletes should be free to explore alternative opportunities in the meantime.

by BearsNecessity on Jul 12, 2008 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

J.J. Redick

From what I have heard NBA teams are still very interested him him but the Miami Heat will not give hive up because they know if he goes somewhere he can be good. I have also heard that he wants to play and not sit on the bench which I don’t blame him but I just said Miami will not let him go.

I think 3-4 college players are much more disciplined and ready to play as far as skills goes, but most often they have been maxed out skill wise by then. There have been very good players who go to college and are great NBA players (Patrick Ewing (graduated), Michael Jordan played three years, Charles Barkley (three years) and Reggie Miller and on and on). All of those players are Hall of Famers/ will be in a few years (Reggie Miller). I really do not think there is an advantage either way. The only way I want high school players to enter the draft is if they are truly NBA ready like Lebron James and Amare Stoudemire otherwise they become projects and as a fan, no likes to see their team spend years waiting for a player to develop.

Joe

by pointguard10 on Jul 12, 2008 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

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