ATQ Pac-10 Poll
One more week until the start of fall camp. One week. I can taste it. So, as we wait for this last week, lets get a feel for the Pac-10. Seems like just about everyone is posting their Pac-10 rankings, so lets do the same. Here is my pre-season Pac-10 predictions.
1) USC
They are absolutely stacked, especially on defense. They have the best linebackers in the nation, and the best D-line in the Pac-10. I don't see too many offenses scoring on them. However, I think they will blow a game somewhere, due to the passing game. I don't feel that the passing game alone will be able to carry the team. This may not matter, as their defense is so good, but they could get into some tough games at some point.
2) Oregon
I think that 2-4 in the Pac-10 are quite the toss up. Each team has its weaknesses, but I think Oregon's will be least important. This could simply be due to the fact that I know Oregon better than the other teams, but whatever.
The biggest hindrance to Oregon being the #2 team in the Pac-10 is the schedule. And you know what, that's not deterring me. Cal and ASU have enough holes that I think going into Tempe and Berkley will be tossups. Oregon's defense is set up to be one of the best in years, with one of the best secondaries in the nation, which Allioti will use well. They have a ton of talent on the offensive side of the ball, with one of the top 2 O-Lines in the conference, making QB transition that much easier. I think this is one of the deepest and most talented teams Oregon has ever had, and the way the team did not implode last year and fought to the end will carry over into this season. If they get B play from the QB and WR positions, I think the team will go 10-2. But, with the talent at those positions, there really isn't a ceiling. If Costa can get settled in over the first 4 games and J-Will decides not to drop any balls, the offense will be clicking, and then who knows what will happen.
3a) Arizona State
I really don't like putting ASU here. But here they are, thanks almost solely to Dennis Erickson. Their offensive line was terrible in pass protection last year, but much of that unit is now gone. Will it get better? Can it get worse than last season? Either way, I don't have much faith in this unit (and neither did Phil Steele, ranking it as the worst in the Pac-10), and if they do not improve significantly, they will have a tough time beating the upper half of the Pac-10. The rest of the team is solid, but this is a massive weakness that is being overlooked by many. Other than that, they should be pretty good at other positions, being ranking by most in the top 1/2 of the Pac-10, but I just can't put them higher due to that O-Line.
3b) California
They have a stellar O-line, which will carry them for much of the season. But they lost huge players at the skill positions. While Cal fans are really excited about Jahvid Best, and the guy is highlight reel waiting to happen, will he be able to carry the load for a whole season? I'm doubtful. Also, all of their running backs weigh less than 200 pounds. Make of that what you will. For the rest of the offense I don't have a whole lot of confidence in Longshore or Riley. They have a great linebacking corp, though the rest of the defense is above mediocre. They also have an easy schedule. Overall, they have their issues, as does ASU. I feel they will end up in about the same place, with their weaknesses becoming very clear in a couple key games during the season.
5) Oregon State
This is where things get interesting. I am putting OSU here because you usually know what you have with these guys. They will not be blowing many people away, but after some huge losses at Penn State and against USC, they will settle in and do fairly well in the Pac 10. I think their D will be solid, as will their running backs and wide receivers, though I think their QBs are below average at best. I don't think they will make many big plays, which will hurt them in games where their D cannot hold the opponent to less than 25 points.
6) Arizona
I don't like having any Mike Stoops team this high, but this team will score. They will score a lot. And they will probably give up more points over the entire season. The main reason I don't have them higher than OSU is that they will be incredibly inconsistent. They will win a few games they shouldn't, and lose some they should.
7) UCLA
No set QB and an incredibly bad offensive line spells trouble, even with the great coaching they have at the assistant positions. They don't have anything impressive on the offensive side of the ball, and defense isn't gonna be good enough to carry the offense. But, at least they don't have Dorrell coaching them anymore, so the guys over at Bruins Nation can be happy.
8) Washington
Jake Locker. Jake Locker. Jake Locker. The rest of the team is flat out awful. They have the worst rated RBs, WRs, and D-line according to Phil Steele.
9) Stanford
They have some experience back, and...well, they aren't Washington State.
10) Washington State
Yep, it's a rebuilding year. They don't have too much that is special at any position, though I think they will be decent in a couple years. I'm just glad we'll be in the Pallouse in September. I hate that place in November.
So, there you have it. That's exactly how the conference will turn out. Okay, maybe not, but leave your comments, thoughts, predictions in the comments.
GO DUCKS!
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I like your list!
USC sure does look to be in the driver’s seat for the Pac-10—possibly even playing January 8th.
The next few spots are really up for grabs, IMO.
Oregon should be able to take care of business in all home games during 2008, but playing Purdue on the road could prove to be a challenge as well as playing USC, Cal, and Arizona St. away from Autzen.
The Ducks need to at least win three of those four road games to finish 2nd in the Pac. If they cannot do that they could easily fall to that third, fourth, or (GASP!) fifth spot.
This team needs to be Road Warriors and pull out the W’s!
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by Pac10Rivalry on
Jul 28, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
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I share a lot of those opinions...
I’m not too worried about Purdue, but USC and Arizona St. are definitely going to have passionate fans. There aren’t any gimmies in the Pac-10, but I think our weaknesses aren’t actually going to be terrible. Sure we’ll have some, but it isn’t going to be like the Arizona St. O-Line weakness, and I’m not sold on USC’s offense. In pre-season evaluation, I won’t be surprised if we lose to either team, but I wouldn’t be surprised to win.
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by JShufelt on
Jul 28, 2008 11:25 AM PDT
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Wow a logical beaver fan?
Finally a beav that can look at the facts and not throw in his biased opinion. I agree that we need to get 2 of 3 of those critical road conference games to finish second. Home is pretty much locked to win them all. Also if we want any chance of touching a BCS field this year, we gotta beat Purdue and Blow out Boise State, as well as not get blowin out by SC.
A side note I have been reading this blog for about two months now. I have been so jealous of all you that get to go to Games this year, where me being in Missouri am lucky if I catch one on T.V., but due to my recent misforturne as the Air Force sees it, I call it a blessing, I’ll be there to get hammered drunk and watch us walk all over the weaker programs this fall
by AirForceDuck on
Jul 28, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
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I think Boise State will be tougher than Purdue
Despite being on the road, Purdue does not have a great defense…or running game, which plays exactly to our strengths.
And I’ll be there along with the other Ducks from Chicago, which’ll be a blast.
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by jtlight on
Jul 28, 2008 11:44 AM PDT
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we're jealous! be loud!!
GO DUCKS!
by KTClovestheducks on
Jul 28, 2008 2:11 PM PDT
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Good List...
I think your list has many valid points and I hope that Oregon will end the season that high. Here is my prediction for what it’s worth, which is not much:
1. USC – Enough said. Despite their weaknesses they have too much talent and are too well coached to finish anywhere but #1.
2. ASU – Erickson scares me. He always improves whereever he goes (in college) and he will likely have some JC guys step up and play well this year for him. Here’s hoping they beat Georgia! If they do, watch out for them in Pac 10 play.
3. Oregon – I think the Sun Bowl game will prove to be prophetic for the Ducks. Give Kelly and Bellotti enough time with a QB and they will develop a gameplan that works. We scored and ran at will against a team that reached #2 in the country using a patched up offensive unit. What can we do with a full spring, summer and fall? Costa should be solid, if not spectacular and he will get tons of help from LGB, JJ, Crenshaw and any of the WR’s running the ball. I think our WR’s and TE’s will also come up huge. Our defense should be solid, but will probably give up yards like we do every year. Tough road schedule ultimately costs us a couple of games.
4. OSU – Too well coached to not finish in the top half, but questions on D, QB and O-Line may be too much. I look for a typical OSU season – slow start, great finish.
5. Cal – I always feel like their teams underperform and I think they have too many question marks to finish higher than this. Can Best handle the load? Who is the QB?
6. Arizona – I would love to see them finish last, though that would mean Stoops lost his job and that would not be good for future seasons. I can’t wait for him to get his first 15-yard penalty for being on the field too much. They will have an explosive offense, but they will also turn the ball over too much. They will probably reach a bowl game though thanks to their weak OOC schedule.
7. UW – I think Locker will win some games for them and they will beat a couple of teams they shouldn’t. They need their WR’s to step up for them. I think this team will be in a lot of shootouts this year.
8. UCLA – Here’s hoping that they finish lower so Slick Rick can look stupid. I can’t wait for him and his team to come to Autzen on October 11 and get run out of the stadium. They have way too many question marks at QB to do much in the Pac 10 I think.
9. Stanford – I think they will be solid in another year or two, but they don’t have enough playmakers on either side of the ball to consistently win in the conference this year.
10. WSU – Again, enough said. New coach. Trouble off the field. New QB. Will they go winless in the conference? Doubtful, but they might only win two games max.
by DucksPhan on
Jul 28, 2008 11:47 AM PDT
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I wish I could say phooey on the schedule and put us in the #2 spot
...but I don’t think I can. Beating the other 3 of the Big 4 of this conference (USC, Oregon, ASU, Cal) will be a serious challenge for all of us, even those pesky Trojans (as others have said I am not entirely sold on their offense. Remember the Sanchez we played against last year?! devilish laughter). We have the worst road schedule of the bunch so logic would say we’re losing 1-2 of those games. And, this may be blasphemous to write but again, you can’t fight the logic of every home team winning for the past decade, we very well might lose Civil War (since we’re trekking over to Burrito Stadium). Logic unfortunately also says a 3 loss team should not be #2 in the PAC. Sooooo here’s to hoping our boys defy the logic!
GO DUCKS!
by KTClovestheducks on
Jul 28, 2008 2:10 PM PDT
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I think a 3 loss team could very well play second fiddle this year.
Case in point, last year, 2-loss teams were in the driver’s seat last year even in the traditionally undefeated or 1-loss champion-teller history of this conference.
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by qrsouther on
Jul 28, 2008 9:27 PM PDT
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1. USC- We barely squeaked out a win over the Trojans last season, and we were playing at home with one of our best teams in recent memory. USC is still the king. Their defense freaks me out.
2. Oregon- This is the year the second-half collapse misses out. I see losses at USC and at Cal. Our offense has the potential to be even better than last season. If Chip did that well in one season, imagine how scary they’ll be if they improve on that. The defense is stacked, and the depth is there for a 10-win season.
3. Arizona State- Carpenter will get hit early and often. Georgia will eat this team alive. If you can’t protect your QB in the Pac-10, it’ll be a long a season.
4. Oregon State- Seems like they’re losing a lot, but I’m not convinced Cal is better than 5th, and I think Open Seats is much more sound than UCLA, UW, and Arizona.
5. California- Tedford recruits well, but Cal is perrenially overrated, and that’s the only reason I have them down here instead of the top 3.
6. UCLA- Sure, they have no O-line, no QB, and no offense, and they’re losing a big chunk of their stout defense. But still, it’s Neuheisel. As much as I hate that scumbag, he gets his teams to show up and play with intensity. I say they win one or two games they shouldn’t, and I also say they play us hard in Autzen.
7. Washington- Locker by himself can win a handful of games. I expect the defense to be improved, if only slightly, and I expect the passing game to be much better. They could potentially battle for the #5 spot depending on how good or bad the bottom half of the league turns out to be.
8. Arizona- Stoops backs his way out. For a team whose trademark has been its defense, they’re just not very good this season. Sure, they’ll pass a lot, but the lack of a running game keys opposing defenses to tee off on Tuitama (again).
9. Stanford- Harbaugh is the right man for the job. The talent level just isn’t there to compete every game. However, they’ll once again pull one head-scratching upset in conference play.
10. Washington State- Arrests, scholarship losses, and bad press. They’ll hang with teams at home, but they’re in for a very long year. I hope Wulff has patience.
by travissimmo on
Jul 28, 2008 11:35 PM PDT
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Awesome avatar!
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by qrsouther on
Jul 29, 2008 12:56 PM PDT
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Thanks!
I love the stormtrooper unis. I bought a white J-Stew jersey last summer, and then wore it to the game against the Fuskies. Good times.
by travissimmo on
Jul 29, 2008 2:09 PM PDT
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I bought a white Stewie too.
And my mom has some white Levi 505’s in the mail for me.
They should start producing white ducks baseball caps or something, so my transformation may be complete.
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by qrsouther on
Jul 29, 2008 7:35 PM PDT
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i think i might switch UCLA and 'Zona
for no other reason than a hunch, and i could see stanford surprising a few people, but otherwise i totally agree with your list. perhaps i might write it as:
1. USC
2. OreASUCal
3. OSU
4. UCLAZona
5. UWFurdWazzu
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Jul 29, 2008 10:20 PM PDT
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that's really close to what I was thinking
Though I put UW ahead of UCLA/UA and Stanford/WSU – I just think Locker is going to surprise atleast one team and take care of business against the bottom 4.
by bradLL99 on
Jul 30, 2008 6:39 AM PDT
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Re: Cal
I can answer some of your question. Best is back fully recovered. Watch this video to see him break tackles and show that he does have strength. No he won’t drag defenders down like Lynch (and he probably won’t do that killer stiff arm to Patrick Chung that Lynch did :D), and he probably won’t run into the middle 30 times a game like Forsett but he is by no means weak. Neither is Vereen. And if either of these backs see daylight, TD Bears! I’d wager that only Joe McKnight has the speed to catch Best in the open and they won’t meet each other in the same play. DeSean is weaker than Best and we remember his stats last year.
Re: QB. Nate Longshore has pin-point accuracy, and excellent football mind, and a cannon arm IF he is not injured. Riley is dynamic, fleeting and a thrill. I’m not worried about either.
I am worried about the WRs but they seem to be more physical than last year so we’ll see.
That said I agree w/ your list though I’d switch Zona and UCLA
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on
Jul 30, 2008 11:16 AM PDT
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I never thought that Best was weak
Plenty of small backs have a lot of power. But I think a lot of times they can do better with some sort of ying to their yang. It doesn’t seem like that is there. This may not be a horrible thing, and it may work out great, but combos like Stewart/Johnson, hopefully Blount/Johnson, Lendell White/Bush, etc. seem to be the best. Best has a TON of talent, and I expect a lot. But if he’s used in short yardage a lot, that could be problematic over the entire season.
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by jtlight on
Jul 30, 2008 11:19 AM PDT
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Best is awesome
I think you’ll have a great rushing year, I just think Nate Longshore could easily shit his pants in every high-pressure game, and I think Kevin Riley may be good in maybe ‘09. From what I’ve read, there could be a 2-QB system in place this year for Cal? Am I mistaken?
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by qrsouther on
Jul 31, 2008 12:42 PM PDT
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Coach Tedford made some comments at Media Day about both QBs getting playing time. It is a bit unclear how that’ll happen at this point, though.
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by TwistNHook on
Jul 31, 2008 1:05 PM PDT
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That alone may be enough to drop them 4 spots
As Oregon fans will tell you, 2 QBs is a recipe for disaster.
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by jtlight on
Jul 31, 2008 1:33 PM PDT
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Although I would put Cal up at #2 for obvious reasons, I agree with the general idea here.
I think USC is a clear #1. Cal, ASU, and Oregon seem to be 1 step below as you have them there. Last year, Cal split Oregon/ASU with both games coming on the road.
Now, this year, Cal faces Oregon and ASU both at home. Our road schedule (while including near guaranteed loss USC) has easy teams such as WSU and Arizona.
So, if you are to say that Cal, Oregon, and ASU are basically at the same level, I feel that the schedule as it currently is favors Cal. Of course, given Cal’s recent history, we’ll have an inexplicable and brutal loss to a team that we shouldn’t have lost to (i.e. OSU last year and Arizona the year before).
So, it’s anybody’s ballgame!
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by TwistNHook on
Jul 30, 2008 3:53 PM PDT
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The more I think about it...
I think Cal is above ASU…I don’t trust their offensive line worth anything. But all 3 of those teams are a toss up. And those 3 games could go either way.
And for what it’s worth, Phil Steele agrees with you, which is why he has Cal ahead of Oregon.
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by jtlight on
Jul 30, 2008 8:19 PM PDT
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And last year Phil Steele was very low on Cal and people were ragging on him. And he ended up being right.
All I know is that the Cal-Oregon game in 2006 has been the aberration. Pretty much all the Cal-Oregon games in recent memory have been close hard-fought games that have gone down to the wire.
Ezeff’s hit last year.
Cal missing the field goal at the end of regulation in 05 and then Oregon wins in OT.
Oregon TE drops 4th down pass in 04
Oregon 4th quarter comeback in 03.
So, I predict that it will be another exciting and fun game this year. I just hope that the home field advantage puts Cal over the edge.
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by TwistNHook on
Jul 31, 2008 1:08 PM PDT
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I'm already excited for that game
It’s becoming a fun competitive series.
That will be Oregon’s last really tough game. Hopefully Cal isn’t looking forward one more week.
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by jtlight on
Jul 31, 2008 1:35 PM PDT
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I remember all of those
Especially the OT and Keith Allen dropping it in ‘04.
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by qrsouther on
Jul 31, 2008 1:44 PM PDT
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Excellent points.
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by qrsouther on
Jul 31, 2008 12:40 PM PDT
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