Okay Beaver Fans, I'll Stop Now
by David Piper on Jul 31, 2008 8:55 PM PDT
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PrintA little immature part of me likes to bait a Beaver fan every once in a while because it is so easy to do, I have Beaver friends whose skin I like to get underneath a bit, and they are so defensive. It really is classic little brother syndrome. However, to be fair, here are my true thoughts on OSU:
1. I root for OSU every time they're not playing us, unless a loss would help us in the standings. They are Oregonians, and I generally want to see them do well. I don't hate them. But I never want to lose to them.
2. I do see Oregon as the superior program. That's not based on records, its based on the fact that we have better talent and are more nationally relevant. Oregon is not an elite program. We need to be in the BCS consistently to claim that. But we are a good second tier program (a la Wisconsin/Va. Tech/Colorado). I'm not sure that the Beavers have reached that level yet.
3. I have a lot of respect for what OSU is able to do, but even Beaver fan has to admit that 1)they need to win a big road game, 2) they need to fill their stadium, and 3) they need to get a decent opponent to come to Reser. Only when OSU starts winning big non-conference games on a regular basis (and getting home games, instead of whoring yourselves out to LSU and Penn State) is a part of that. Maybe Oklahoma or Michigan won't come to Reser, but an Oklahoma State or an Iowa might be a good place to start. In fact, maybe the fact that a Michigan or an Oklahoma will come to Autzen is the best verification of our claim.
I've got respect for your program, Beavs. But you've got to do more to reach the next level.
In the meantime, I'll back off until Civil War week*
I reserve the right to change my mind if you lose big to Penn State. Believe me, we're all rooting for you to win that game.
--Dave
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In the late 80’s, we ‘whored’ ourselves to Ohio State and Nebraska (twice). We also peppered the schedule with home-and-homes with the likes of Colorado, Iowa, Illinois, Texas Tech, BYU, etc. Autzen at a 41K capacity wouldn’t allow any better.
Schedulewise, it appears that the beavs are doing OK with Reser at 40-whatever… they have the home games with Louisville and Cincy in the next few years and a home-and-home with Wisconsin in ‘11 and ‘13.
They are not going to get a Michigan, Oklahoma, or Tennessee to come to the Burrito until they Mondo-size it.
I know the history
A game like Wisconsin is a big get for the Beavs. That’s what I’m asking for. We started with the Iowas and Illinois’ long before we got the Michigans and Oklahomas. I just want to see the Beavers make some progress in that regard.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
I couldn’t agree more.
I don’t mind the Beavs winning (or ANYONE else the Ducks play) simply because when/if the Ducks beat them it only makes the Ducks look better.
As you mentioned, I too have many Beaver Believer friends and I love to talk some smack with them and vice versa. I think there are so many of us like that here in the great state of Oregon. Most likely due to the fact the schools are only like 40 miles apart.
Civil War Sports .::. www.CivilWarSports.com
Definitely
Oregon before all other states. I root for Oregon State every week but one.
Jaws were hitting the floor as Greg repeatedly attempted to tear the rim off the backboard...
beavers suck
well i can honestly say that you should never, ever ever ever root for your rival. Read the 5 commandments of college football at autzenpower.blogspot.com. In all honesty i think the beavs hate our unis because they fell that because they are the “country” team they should have the diamond plating since its more redneck…but yeah f the beavs and the huskies
I got summer hatin on me cuz im hotter than the sun got spring hatin on me cuz i aint ever sprung and winter hatin on me cuz im colder than ya'll, and i will never i will never i will never fall, been hated by the seasons, so fuck ya'll, hatin for no reason. - Weezy F. Baby
Thank you for that intelligent and well-written addition to this conversation.
n/t
We are the power. We are the flower. We are the awesome blossom.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com
thats why
This is why the beavers dont give us our deserved respect, because of fans like this. Even though they have just as many irogant fans, we still keep it real and speak the truth
Bravo!
Quite possibly the worst blog plug I’ve read. Bravo!
The thing that might make this worse than the Beaver dribble we’ve seen over the last couple of days is that it you are a Duck fan, and you unfortunately become a representative of duck fans. This arrogant beef-headed comment is one that stereotypes are built on. Thanks a lot.
Unfortunately, your horrendous plug worked, simply because I was curious if the rest of your stuff was this senseless. Your 5 rules of college football are some of the most asinine ideas. It does nothing to better the sport or ones enjoyment of it. It is reminiscent of foul stool that comes out of those Ohio State blogs.
I don’t JUST root for Oregon State. I want them to win. I want to see their own program have success. I could care less how that changes our strength of schedule. It just comes down to one game in a year that I want them to lose.
Not only that, but I feel intelligently calm and secure when I do so. No regret. No remorse. It doesn’t make me upset that they can rack up a win. It doesn’t phase me at all.
Your latest entry classic arrogance. The poll saying the reason we are 2nd most hated in the pac-10 is because of the imperiousness attitude of bloggers, and fans like you.
It doesn’t matter if you cover your skin with Green and Yellow clothes, showing off your Oregon mascot tattoo, while singing the lyrics to Mighty Oregon. Don’t be an idiot, it makes the rest of us look bad.
Go Duckies!
excellent jshufelt
Loved this paragraph:
I don’t JUST root for Oregon State. I want them to win. I want to see their own program have success. I could care less how that changes our strength of schedule. It just comes down to one game in a year that I want them to lose.
Think that rings true for a lot of us.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
Bravo?
So he has a bit of vitriol going toward the Beevs and Huskies, does that make him any less a Duck fan than you? Think he (or anyone else for that matter) gives a rats ass if you feel all warm and intelligent inside when the beevurs win? What the hell is that? Some would question your fanmeter when you wish success for your rival and rightfully so. I really do. Have you ever even played a sport?...ever? Like it or not, rivalries are an integral part of college football. And, for a lot of people the more bitter the rivalry, the better. Try to get that, ok?
And if you want to read some REAL beefheaded ignorance, check out any beevur or Fusky board for ignorance off the charts. Its the same everywhere and thats ok. You know what, these are REAL fans that have their teams in their hearts. They’re not wine sipping cheese eaters that think its fashionable to claim their team loyalty at cocktail parties and get warm fuzzies when their rivals win. Honestly, thats what you read like.
The poll you mentioned measures how much success a team is having more than anything else. If Wazzu was winning games like USC, they’d be at the top of the list because they’d be beating everyone else on the field. The Ducks are second on that list because except for USC, we’ve won more than any other Pac-10 team in the last decade plus. Its easy to feel good about another teams fanbase when you’re kicking their tail every year.
Personally, I’m of the opinion that THE ONLY GOOD BEEVUR IS AN IRRITATED BEEVUR!
So I guess I’m with ATQ on this one.
How are you with ATQ? This is what he said:
I root for OSU every time they’re not playing us, unless a loss would help us in the standings. They are Oregonians, and I generally want to see them do well. I don’t hate them. But I never want to lose to them.
That wine drinking cheese tasting asshole. I doubt that he’s a true fan.
We are the power. We are the flower. We are the awesome blossom.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com
Maybe I missed a paragraph or something
But this is a very contradictory post.
Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.
You misspelled 'samurai'.
But I guess that matches the pathetic silliness of “Have you ever played a sport?...ever?”. That’s okay, though. It’s hilarious when somebody screws the pooch on their handle and are stuck with it, forever.
And he never suggested AutzenpowerW00TRAWK! was any less of a fan. He said that it was his type of fandom that makes the rest of us look bad. Your post, on the other hand, definitely tossed off an accusation of somebody not being a ‘real’ fan. Nicely done, and thanks for the laughs.
I'm the pot thats calling the kettle black for calling some other black thing black
(I never realized how racist that idium sounds before)
This thread sucks, it’s just a bunch of people ganging up others. There is no right way to be a fan and we all enjoy sports and their rivalries in different ways. Ripping on people for spelling/grammar mistakes and for not being eloquent enough is just petty.
This comment is not only directed to grimc and I do actually agree with your and other’s opinions, but I just don’t think these posts are doing anything but making people feel small and unwelcome here, which sucks.
I hesitated posting my reply before I did ...
And after rereading my post, I do apologize for how I phrased what I did. A lot of what I said, I took too far.
Hopefully AutzenPower, and others here can accept my apology.
Go Duckies!
Here Here!!!!
This thread sucks, it’s just a bunch of people ganging up others. There is no right way to be a fan and we all enjoy sports and their rivalries in different ways. Ripping on people for spelling/grammar mistakes and for not being eloquent enough is just petty.This comment is not only directed to grimc and I do actually agree with your and other’s opinions, but I just don’t think these posts are doing anything but making people feel small and unwelcome here, which sucks.
VERY WELL PUT!!!
Civil War Sports .::. www.CivilWarSports.com
Meh. It's the internet.
It’s engineered for petty arguments. Besides, I did him a favor. Now he can go correct his handle.
thanks
I thought the very same thing Samauri. I was discussing that with my friend too. Just cuz im passionate about my team and dont like the rivals is not being a bad fan. A bad fan is someone who tries to correct another fan.
1. This is not highschool, their is no club to being a fan.
2. Is their a Bible for being a fan?? Aka do i have to root for the rival?
3. Since when in hell do we as duck fans care what people think?
I got summer hatin on me cuz im hotter than the sun got spring hatin on me cuz i aint ever sprung and winter hatin on me cuz im colder than ya'll, and i will never i will never i will never fall, been hated by the seasons, so fuck ya'll, hatin for no reason. - Weezy F. Baby
Propaganda
Come on Dave,
You gotta represent the faction of more…avid…duck fans too, like the ones that start ‘em early…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wikhx2E4gJQ
...shoulda, coulda, woulda
...that is what they will be chanting at Parker next year, except for an unfortunate ACLS tear…
Get over it and lay off the Beavs…they beat us at Autzen for the first time in my short memory…and I was at the donut bowl 0 to 0 in the freezing cold….
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