Costa out minimum 8-10 weeks
by ntrebon on Aug 25, 2008 1:55 PM PDT
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PrintAccording to Curtis Anderson (post on Moseley's blog), Costa will have surgery on his knee to repair damaged cartilage and is out a minimum of 8-10 weeks.
Ugh.
Anderson also notes in the same post that Garrett was dismissed from the team.
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Have faith in Chip Kelly!
With enough time to prepare, he’ll have whatever combination of quarterbacks ready to go
Aww...crap.
While I’m not disappointed with Roper, he doesn’t hold the promise that Costa did. That promise may have been high hopes anyway, but this is very disappointing.
I feel really bad for Costa. He would have had multiple chances to be a star, but his knee wouldn’t cooperate.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com
Every thing I read and heard...
…said that he was going to be a stud. At this point it looks like his career may be in jeopardy, especially if it’s another ACL tear. I wish him the best in his surgery, rehab, and whatever else he may do. He will always be a Duck, even if he couldn’t contribute on the field
by inroywetrust on Aug 25, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point it's just cartilage
If it was another ACL tear, he wouldn’t be back this season.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com
The release said that the MRI was inconclusive
about possible ligament damage. Frankly, I’m expecting the worse until shown otherwise
by inroywetrust on Aug 25, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Costa
Even if his health isn’t an issue in the future, it may still be the end of Costa’s chances to QB at Oregon. Even if Roper is only average, he may completely entrench himself as the starter. Injury is a terrible way for a QB competition to end.
Awww Pisssss
I don’t even wanna go to the game anymore… Well, thats a lie. I fly in from NY on Wednesday. Anybody going to be tailgating before the game?
@##%$%!#@%&
WHO ELSE IS REALLY FRICKIN SICK OF OUR OREGON QBS KNEES TAKING THEM DOWN?!
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by KTClovestheducks on Aug 25, 2008 2:29 PM PDT reply actions
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Terrible news for the Quack Attack. As much as I hate to hear about Nate’s injury, I think this team will still have a lot of weapons. Roper is still a solid QB and we have another decent QB in Masoli. We’ve had a lot of success plugging in JUCO transfers so I think our QB situation will be much more stable than Dixon’s unexpected injury. Not to mention, we do have JJ, Blount and Crenshaw at RB to support our QB, no matter who’s under center. And finally, I think last year’s Dixon injury has prepared the team to adapt better. I still say that we blow out the Fuskies.
I think we should go 5-0.
The changes at QB will make a bigger defense when we run up against USC, ASU, and Cal.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com
Well I am glad we got Masoli
I fell sorry fro Nate but injuries are a risk every football player faces. They still have to play the games. With that said I am sure glad we got ahold of Masoli. I remeber talk of redshirting him when we first learned about his signing now that seems to be a nonissue.
I foresee in the upcoming weeks if the offense starts to sputer especially in the running deparment that we might see more of him. Depending on how fast he grasps the offense I would not be suprised if he overtakes Roper halfway thru(regardless of record) I have a sneaking feeling that Chip likes the running QB’s better than the throwing ones who can run every once in awhile. Last year the offense was predicated on RUN first throwing second. Everything hinged on defenses respecting the run game(whoever had the ball) and then taking advantage of weaknesses in playaction. Roper for all his ‘gamer’ status and good arm will not garner the respect in the running aspect we need to open the rest of the playbook.
I am rooting for whomever they have back there but I see the transtion to Masoli as just a matter of time for him to learn the playbook. We keep forgetting that he has the most collegient game expereience out of all QB’s.
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Video
Here’s an interesting Youtube video of Masoli in action. Kind of hard to see in parts but interesting nonetheless.
I am forced to wonder about something. Everything I’ve read shows Roper and Costa were 1 and 1a with Masoli a clear #2. I haven’t seen anything about Masoli being even close to either Roper or Costa. Is it really that close of a competition where suddenly Masoli moves up to 1a with Roper being 1?
I haven’t seen Masoli play (outside of the video above) so the same argument I made about Costa holds true with Masoli…even more so in this case
--Dominic
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
doh
would help if I included the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FzOcp846w8
--Dominic
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
I hate to see Costa go down. I believe that Chip Kelly is not only a great OC, but he works magic when it comes to the qb position. Who in there right mind would have ever thought that Dixon would do what he did last year. Having Kelly worked wonders for Dixon. Am I saying that Roper is Dixon, NO. But Dixon’s decision making skill were awful the prior year. Roper will make plays. I think that he will play alot like Clemens. He will throw all over and make a few plays on the ground. With Costa going down I assume Harper will take #3 spot. I for one would like to see this kid get into the mix this year. If Kelly can work some magic on him we could be very happy fans for the next few years
Better now than later
If Costa’s knee was gimpy, then he wasn’t going to last the entire season anyway. I would prefer 12 games of Roper vs. 6 Costa / 6 Roper, so the offense doesn’t get derailed in mid-season as we saw last year.
That said, I still hope for an 8-week recovery and a Costa comeback in late October or so. He could be the best QB on the roster in 2009 and 2010.
DON'T PANIC
The fact of the matter is…..Costa was a temorary solution to a long term problem. Costa out ensures us of a 9-3 season…….and better than that next year. Costa wasn’t going to save us……..the saviour is in our youth….might as well play them now!!!! LET’S GO HARPER!!!! Furture Heisman trophy winner…….we might as well throw him into the mix now!!!!
I have faith
I have full faith in Justin Roper, and faith in this team. Go Ducks, lets get this season started!
Don't burn a year
If Costa is truly going to be out 8-10 weeks, don’t burn up a year of eligibility for 2-3 games. Get a medical redshirt (like Mr. Stroughter of our little brother’s team) and bring him back next year. By week 9 or 10, either Roper, Masoli, Harper, or even Thomas should have enough experience to carry us through the remainder of the season.
Pretty sure it was a normal redshirt year for him.
It is my understanding that he got injured later in the season. Anyone know when?
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It was during a practice mid-way through
But he had yet to play in a single game at that point. It was before Dixon got hurt, because he probably would have stepped in instead of Leaf.
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Still...
If he got injured prior to Washington, then he could have gotten a medical. If he got injured during Washington or later, he wasn’t eligible for a medical.
Go Duckies!
He was injured Oct 30th...
Last year was a normal redshirt.
He could probably qualify for medical hardship this year.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com
Medical redshirt
Isn’t there a requirement that he has to be injured and cannot return in the second half of the season? So, if there is no further damage to his knee and he is ready in 8 weeks, I don’t think he’d qualify.
He has to not play at all
That’s for sure, since you must be hurt BEFORE you’ve played half of your games I think…
8 weeks would put him back around the Cal game.
He also didn’t get hurt DURING the season, although I don’ t know how much that matters.
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Looks like you are right.
I’m digging in the NCAA bylaws manual, because I’m boring like that.. PDF Warning
14.2.4 Hardship Waiver.
A student-athlete may be granted an additional year of competition by the conference or the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for reasons of "hardship." Hardship is defined as an incapacity resulting from an injury or illness that has occurred under all of the following conditions: (Revised:
8/8/02, 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08)
(a) The incapacitating injury or illness occurs in one of the four seasons of intercollegiate competition at any two-year or four-year collegiate institutions or occurs after the first day of classes in the student-athlete’s senior year in high school; (Revised: 1/10/92 effective 8/1/92, 11/01/01, 8/8/02)
(b) The injury or illness occurs prior to the first competition of the second half of the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship in that sport (see Bylaw 14.2.4.3.4) and results in incapacity to compete for the remainder of that playing season; (Revised: 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97, 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01,
4/3/02, 4/24/08)
© In team sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not participated in more than three contests or dates of competition (whichever is applicable to that sport) or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the institution’s scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in his or her sport. Only scheduled or completed competition (including exempted events but excluding scrimmages and exhibition contests identified as such in the legislation) against outside participants during the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship, or, if so designated, during the official NCAA championship playing season in that sport (e.g., spring baseball, fall soccer), shall be countable under this limitation in calculating both the number of contests or dates of competition in which the student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition during that season in the sport. Dates of competition that are exempted (e.g., alumni contests, foreign team in U.S.) from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition shall count toward the number of contests or dates in which the student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition
in the season, except for scrimmages and exhibition contests that are specifically identified as such in the sport’s Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations. Scrimmages and exhibition contests that are not exempted from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition may be excluded
from the calculation only if they are identified as such in the sport’s Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations; and (Revised: 1/10/92, 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97, 4/26/01 effective 8/1/01, 3/10/04, 5/11/05, 8/4/05, 4/26/07 applicable to student-athletes who initially enrolled full time in a collegiate institution on or after 8/1/03, 9/18/07, 4/24/08)
(d) In individual sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not participated in more than three dates of competition or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the maximum permissible number of dates of competition as set forth in Bylaw 17 plus one date for a conference championship (e.g., gymnastics: 13+1=14, wrestling: 16+1=17), regardless of whether the team participates in the conference championship, provided the institution is a member of a conference and the conference holds a championship event in the applicable sport. Dates of competition that are exempted per Bylaw 17 (e.g., alumni contests, foreign team in U.S.) from the maximum permissible number of dates of competition do not count toward the number of dates in which the student-athlete has participated. (Adopted: 4/24/08)
There is more sub bylaws and blah blah blah. But that’s the story.
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Jason White? anybody....
Didn’t Jason White from Oklahoma get about 8 years of eligibility?
I know this will probably encite a whole string of Oklahoma flamers about the quality of Pac-10 officiating.
Just for giggles...
Definition of a “Medical Redshirt”
Source: Hokie Huddler 11/13/98 Vol. 16 No 10 Pg. 7
Though often called a “medical redshirt” by sportswriters and sportscasters, the actual term is a “medical hardship waiver”. The concept goes like this: Every student-athlete who meets the minimum academic standards coming out of high school gets four season of NCAA Division I Competition eligibility in each sport.
If a student-athlete is injured during a season and cannot return to competition, he or she may qualify for another opportunity to utilize that season of competitive eligibility.
To receive a medical hardship waiver – in any sport – the injury must limit the student-athlete’s participation to no more than 20 percent of the team’s contests (rounded to the next whole number), with all participation occurring in the first half of the season.
Therefore, for a football player, the maximum number of games that he can play in and still receive a medical hardship waiver is three (20 percent of 11 equals 2.2, which is rounded up to 3), and none of his time on the field can occur after the fifth game (the sixth game of an eleven game season is considered in the second half of the season).
In the case of a 12 game regular season (ie. Virginia Tech’s 2000 home schedule), none of the player’s time on the field can occur after the sixth game. The seventh game of a 12 game season is considered in the second half of the season.
Yes, I’m lazy and not linking the source of my source. It’s listed in there though.
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Redshirts
When do the players have to be redshirted by? Not sure how the whole process works.
There are two definitions...
First:
Essentially, players has 5 years to play 4 years. Most commonly, a player is redshirtted within their first two years in the program.
A player is technically redshirted after the season has ended, but this is usually a choice made by the coaches at the beginning of the season. A player that is in their redshirt year will not play at all in the season. If they are on the field during ONE snap at ANY point during their season, they are no longer red shirt eligible.
Second, the term “Medical Redshirt” is used in a different scenario, but it is not technically a redshirt. It is a “Medical Hardship Waiver”, which is described above. Essentially, if a player gets hurt early in the season, and the injury is season ending, they can get an additional year of eligibility.
Costa’s injury is technically not season ending. Therefore he is not file for a Medical Hardship Waiver. Last year, he was planned to be a redshirt. His injury was also too late for it to be a medical hardship waiver, despite the fact that he never set foot on the field that year.
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In addition...
A player CAN be redshirted at any time. It doesn’t matter if they are a freshman, sophomore, junior, or senior, but they can only be redshirted once.
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