Instant Reaction: Boise State
by jtlight on Sep 20, 2008 4:24 PM PDT
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PrintI have never felt so OK with a loss. In fact, I feel much better about this loss than the Purdue win. Our defense could not defend play action or anything else for most of the game. Our offense could not pass the ball for 3 quarters.
But, we saw a quarterback that could pass the ball where he needed to. We saw a freshman QB almost bring the team back from 24 points down in the 4th quarter.
The effort for the first 3 quarters was pathetic. But there are positives to take from this game. We finally saw a QB who can actually hit the passes he has to. Everyone knew he was going to pass, and he hit them anyway. It would have been fun to see us run the ball when we had a passing threat.
If we can actually pass the ball down the field in the next few games, we should be in decent shape offensively. And if our offense can not suck, our defense should be A-OK.
So, here's to the future. Have a great evening Duck fans. And go Pac-10.
GO DUCKS!
-jtlight and ntrebon
[UPDATE] Props to Boise State. They did exactly what they needed to do to win the football game. Unlike Purdue, they took advantage of mistakes. Good luck to them the rest of the year.
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"I have never felt so OK with a loss"
My thoughts EXACTLY
The future is here
With not knowing what Costa can really do, I say Harper should be a receiver and Thomas is the guy as long as Roper is out and maybe when we comes back as well.I haven’t been impressed like that in awhile by a QB’s play.He’s got the size, arm, composure and I want to see him in the game when we are actually running the ball with some play action.I too am ok with this Loss .
It's very nice to have a QB that can run...
But a QB that can run well doesn’t make him a dual-threat. We need our QB to be able to pass (Such a noble thought)
Go Duckies!
An even better idea....
A QB who isn’t made of porcelain and can start a few consecutive games would suit me just fine.
Omar...I'm done with you. Hello Darren Ford! Come to papa.
by PacBellBoozer on Sep 20, 2008 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
pppffhh
not ok. WAC team. Wack team. We suck, our 2ndary aint that good, and fuck boise state with their cheap shots, I hope they suck all year long. And lets not get all too excited about DT at the future. Lets wait it out before we do that again. I mean, to lose at home to a WAC team while ranked in the top 20? That is not OK. Its pathetic.
Not exactly
Boise Frackin’ State. Of the WAC. On our turf. Outplayed for most of the game. Outcoached since the game was put on the schedule. The best news tonight is that we may be going with a freshman QB to start off conference play.
Nope… this game was full of all sorts of wrong.
I was pissed for most of the game.
I was upset at our D. I was upset at our play calling. I was even upset at our fans in the stadium.
We ran and ran. We showed we were a one-dimensional team and then we ran and ran. They knew we were going to run – so we ran. They probably called a couple running plays for us – and we ran them. We were in multiple situations where we should have passed – so we ran.
We never had a chance to go two dimensional. It was too late for us to mix plays up. We had to pass. They knew we were going to pass – so Thomas passed. Darren Thomas did an amazing job despite playing with no running game support.
I have no clue what to think of our team this year. I think we’re a super talented team. But we are inexperienced. We are playing like we are a bunch of headcases.
The point difference was in special teams. They were the difference at Purdue too.
Go Duckies!
It seems to me...
…that the players are fine. It’s the coaches that are the headcases. Figure out the QB situation (and protect him), then figure out how to trust your QBs call a passing play.
Bad snaps. Bad punts. Bad kicks, Our special teams were polar opposite of the Purdue game. I can’t entirely blame the coaching on that. We were a mixed bag on returns.
Go Duckies!
Yes
you can’t keep winning on luck or trick plays (you have to admit several Oregon wins over the last few seasons there has been some luck) Defense is the reason they get put into these situations. It is a tough, often mental, part of the game. Coaching and players; you have to have good combination’s of both to win. Oregon is loosing it’s clout because of defense.
Defense, defense, defense!!!! Oregon has been very mediocre for a long time. Offensively, they are usually awesome and seem to have players coming in that have offensive skills. But if you keep playing with the idea that you will always outscore your opponent, then you will lose games. Sooner or later it catches up to you…..Coaches forget about the hot shot uniforms, keep the spread offense, and start recruiting and teaching defense…..
At least it wasn't a confrence loss
I’m curious… Is knocking out the starting quarterback with a cheap shot part of “doing everything they needed to do to win the game”?
Also confused with the decision to wait so long to bring in Thomas. With the new clock rules I felt like time had pretty much run out for a comeback at the end of the third quarter. Seems like a wasted red shirt year to me, but maybe it is a good thing the coaching staff saw what he can do in a game situation.
Finally, the next time you are at a game and person seated next to you boos the Ducks, please punch them in the face…or maybe something not as harsh (take their Oregon hat, because the obviously aren’t a fan.) At least make it known that such behavior is unacceptable and and uncalled for. Maybe it is just me, but these fans are begining to wear on my nerves! Numerous “fans” in our section we calling for Bellotti’s head… and more. Sure, you may be the greatest offensive genius ever on NCAA Football 2009, but I don’t think it means you have a better insight into the game. I don’t pay $50 a game to hear the idiot commentary of these fools! It makes wonder: would I be better off not renewing my season tickets next year and watch at home in peace and quiet instead?
Go Ducks! (Still tied for first in the Pac 10!)
by Chris in JC on Sep 20, 2008 5:35 PM PDT reply actions
Next Year
Maybe we can do “everything we need to win” next year in Boise.
"Droppin' knowledge like J-Will drops first downs" Dave - Addicted to Quack
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 20, 2008 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm...
just sayin’
"Droppin' knowledge like J-Will drops first downs" Dave - Addicted to Quack
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 20, 2008 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
It sucks...
when everyone else gets to play dirty but you have to play the game right. They should add a category to the BCS formula…like teams lose points for being d-bags. You take a team’s 3rd string QB out on a blatant cheap shot? You get penalized for it.
Don’t mind me. I’m just SICK of 30 years of getting my f’ing heart torn out.
You think there’s ANY way a team with 2 losses can make a BCS bowl out of the PAC 10 this year (especially if one of those loses is to BSU @ home)?
"Droppin' knowledge like J-Will drops first downs" Dave - Addicted to Quack
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 20, 2008 6:52 PM PDT reply actions
Illinois made it last year....
And they had 3 losses.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Pac-10 is horrible this year...
The Pac-10 is one great team, six that will hover around .500 in conference, and three that are just plain bad. Unless somebody other than USC catches fire (and I don’t see that happening), we will be a one-BCS bowl team conference.
Can somebody call Tom Hansen and ask that fewer games be televised? Maybe replace a few with Cross Country coverage…
how blatant was it?
i’ll tell you. i watched the ball leave masoli’s hand (and did not notice anyone in the vicinity of him) saw the the receiver catch the ball, then was perplexed when the Essig announced “flag on the play.” “Flag on the play?” i thought to myself, “must have been a hold.” Yeah, right! The replay certainly cleared that one up for me…. dude should have been tossed. period. end of story
by Chris in JC on Sep 20, 2008 7:02 PM PDT reply actions
Should be interesting next week...
Wazzu’s already had one QB knocked out with a shoulder injury and the number two guy left in an ambulance (by no means am I celebrating that…just pointing it out). It may be Thursday or Friday before we know who’s going to play QB for either team.
- Jeremy
VD Special should...
do a post on why Terrelle Pryor didn’t play for WSU. You know, cuz WSU and U of O are the only teams losing QBs to injury because of the spread and all.
"Droppin' knowledge like J-Will drops first downs" Dave - Addicted to Quack
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 20, 2008 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It'll be up later today!
All for you MCP
The Artist Formerly Known as OrState GoBeavs
by The VD Special on Sep 21, 2008 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
It was a really, really dirty hit...
That fucker shoulda been ejected. Joe G. couldn’t believe all they got was a 15 yard penalty…bout damn near took Masoli’s head off and that’s not too much of an exaggeration. That asshole led with his crown right under Masoli’s chin at full speed at least 3 seconds after the ball was gone.
Still doesn’t mean that the Ducks didn’t play somre really poor football today..but I agree wiht most of the comments here…DT almost reminded me of #3 with that near-comeback. It was sweet. I hope CK and MB stick with him…he’s the spark that’s really been missing all season.
I actually saw a little #10 in DT, the way he was slinging the ball around like that. Reminded me of Oklahoma ’06and Cal ’07 a little bit. It was so nice to see the offense back to the way it was last year, even if it was only a quarter.
by inroywetrust on Sep 20, 2008 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
a _little_ # 10?
Thomas looks like he was modeled after Dixon, his mannerisms, his step back, his stance in the shotgun. I thought maybe they had snuck Dixon in to the stadium and sent him out in thomas’ jersey
My thoughts
I am very frustrated with the coaches today. I seem to remember back in February that Thomas was touted as the more polished QB and Harper was a “project” and an athlete. Why burn the redshirt of the freshman that is not ready to contribute at his position (Harper) in the first game, rather than the freshman that actually might help the team win THIS year? Were the coaches so confident that they could make it through the season on Roper and Masoli that they thought they would only use the 3rd QB for gimmicks and wouldn’t need him to actually run the offense ad maybe win a game?
Bellotti, et al, got badly out-coached yesterday and not just in the game situation. As much as I hate to say it, Canzano has a great point in today’s column. Peterson did a great job of putting his young QB in a situation where he could succeed.
Harper had been better than Thomas for a long time...
and is a better all around athlete. Not so much a QB. The Harper as a change of pace running works well. Look at Tebow his freshman year. However, Harper wasn’t ready to run an offense. I don’t fault the coaching staff at all in the QB decisions. As far as “burning” a redshirt, sometimes it’s stupid…sometimes not. In this case, I have very little issue with it.
While Oregon got outcoached all around, it’s easy to say what Canzano said in hindsight. But things work a bit differently than that. The game wasn’t won or lost on the decision to put in Thomas. It was lost by poor schemes, poor playing, and poor execution throughout.
We’re lucky that Thomas exceeded all expectations and gave us a little hope.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Harper
If harper can’t throw the ball, why not have Johnson & Blount in the backfield and snap it to one of them? That is essentially what the coaches did for the middle two quarters of the game yesterday. We hear all sorts of stuff coming out of practice about Harper being better than Thomas, but I think yesterday disproved that nonsense completely. You can’t compare Harper to Tebow as a freshman because we don’t have a Leak in front of him.
We had a Leak-type in front of him
But he tore his MCL, remember?
You’re missing the point.
Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.
No we didn't
Leak was a senior with experience and leadership qualities. We didn’t have any of that (proven) even when we had Costa.
How many Oregon fans have first names starting with the letter J. JSchufelt. JTLight. JFWells. Even the 1 Oregon fan from my law school had the name Jeff. Is there something I’m missing here?
I'm no The Maharg! But I try. Oh, how I try!
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
Sounds like a conspiracy,
so I guess I should change my user name to reflect the agenda…
JDConant
- Jeremy
This is like the X-Files. The conspiracy is revealing itself!
I'm no The Maharg! But I try. Oh, how I try!
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
The defense HAS to get more physical
Bumping the wide receivers at the LOS is a must to disrupt timing. There was very little blitzing and Kellen Moore had time to do whatever he wanted. My 6 year old sister could have found the receivers with as much time as Moore did. And I wasn’t there, but it sounded like Autzen was as quiet as it’s ever been until Thomas came in. All those things together made for one bad day for the D.
The Artist Formerly Known as OrState GoBeavs
by The VD Special on Sep 21, 2008 10:46 AM PDT reply actions
The defense was pretty flimsy, yes
But Boise State had maybe the best starting field position possession in, possession out, that I’ve ever seen…
Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.
Yeah that's hard to defend
when they start at the 40 yard line every time.
The Artist Formerly Known as OrState GoBeavs
by The VD Special on Sep 21, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Could be worse
Alexis Serna could be your punter and the ball actually goes backward
The Artist Formerly Known as OrState GoBeavs
by The VD Special on Sep 21, 2008 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
We blitzed...and it led to the back-breaker TD
Most of the criticisms of the coaching staff I’ve seen around here aren’t based on what actually happened on the field, but are emotional responses.
There were problems, yes, but if the secondary (minus Thurmond) is as good as advertised, they should have made much more happen.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Not to spam but, objectively-speaking UO is now #32
Using an objective methodology: http://ripbcs.com
Agree?
Yes.
Yes. We are not a good team, especially with the predicament we are in now. I was iffy on us with Roper as QB. And as everyone jumped on the bandwagon with the victories vs UW and Utah State, I slowly grew more and more cautious. Living in NY, and seeing what some oregon fans say on blogs leads me to believe that what people say about Oregon fans is actually true, alot of us are obnoxious morons. I’m not speaking about people on here, for the most part, people on here are optimisitc yet realistic. However on other blogs, we come off as assholes.
Even as much as DT showed, we will be a .500 team in a less than average conference. Yes DT passed the ball well in the 4th quarter but that was practically against a prevent defense. Not saying it wasn’t impressive with him coming in and passing the way he did with only 5% of the snaps during the week, but don’t expect it to continue. Probably going to have to make this a building year and decide where we are planning on going with our QB situation….
im drunk.
Couldnt Watch
I listened to tidbits on the computer but overall i am just getting the sense that the ducks just didnt play well. I have always had a problem with people blaming the coach. It goes both ways. Coaches call plays that are predictable but a lot of times they do it because the offense isnt clicking and they are just trying to get some rhythm. I think it sucks that they lost yesterday, especially to another team from the Northwest, but I wont say that its over for the year. I think they are in the same spot they were going into this game. A very TALENTED team that fails to execute until their backs are against the wall. They remind me a lot of the Pistons, who tear my heart out year after year, how they talk the talk and say what we all want to hear, but then they go out and get beat by themselves and keep making exuces and talking, but never executing to the level they are capable.
Im fine when we lose leaving everything on the field. I hate losses that make people question execution and effort though. The Purdue game was dissapointing because i thought the oline got handled pretty easily by Purdue, now the secondary gets scorched. ITs time to just play ball.
Icey
by ChicagoQuack503 on Sep 21, 2008 6:17 PM PDT reply actions
i though Wilcox had some class
I’m a Duck fan but also a fan of Northwest football, and have been a fan of the Broncos
But I really thought Coach Petersen and Justin Wilcox had more class then what they showed;
I had read before the game they were starting to get a rep as a cheap shot team
I guess it was right, sorry to see that
Congrats on the win
We’ll see ya next year, we’ll be ready
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