Eddie Pleasant lacks intelligence
by David Piper on Sep 26, 2008 7:19 AM PDT
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PrintBy now, you've heard of the street racing incident involving Eddie Pleasant, Darron Thomas, and Jamere Holland, in which a car driven by Pleasant. The car struck a minivan carrying an infant, who fortunately wasn't hurt, though the mother had to have stitches. No serious injuries on the Duck side, though Pleasant had 75 stitches, and Holland suffered a consussion. Due to their injuries, Pleasant and Holland won't be going to WSU this weekend, though Thomas escaped unharmed.
Lets get this out of the way: Eddie Pleasant is an idiot. He deserves a multiple game suspension for putting his, his teammates, and the lives of the people in that minivan in danger. The question I have is to what extent are Thomas and Holland culpable. Because if Thomas and Holland didn't step up to try to dissuade Pleasant from racing, they deserve punishment as well.
Bellotti seems fairly convinced that this was Pleasant acting on his own. If this means that Holland and Thomas warned him and he still did it, then punishment should be twice as severe. But if Thomas and Holland turned a blind eye, they are not the innocent bystanders that Bellotti claims them to be.
Obviously, MB knows more about this then I do, and I trust his judgment, and that he will do the right thing. But punishment for the guilty should be quick and severe. These kind of things cannot be tolerated.
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Bellotti is not a coach that would just let players walk
And place it all on the driver, Pleasant. I have no doubt that it was almost entirely Pleasant, if that’s what Bellotti is saying. He would get to the bottom of it before releasing a statement.
We should just be glad Darron, Jamere, and the littlun were okay.
Your friendly neighborhood placekicker.
Really?
This post seems a bit pointed, if no overtly flaming, to be coming from a moderator. I’m all for swift justice. But to say that “Pleasant is an Idiot” is pretty harsh.
He is 19 years old!
That being said, I think that he acted stupidly, recklessly, and in a fashion not appropriate for a UO football player, or any other ambassador of professional or amateur public sports. The fact that we hold limelight athletes to a higher standard is well established and nearly universally accepted. I agree that there should be repercussions for Thomas and Holland as well as Pleasant. Pleasant’s punishment will probably extend to civil liability as well as any punishment Bellotti hands down.
To call a 19 year old student an Idiot with reference to, as far as I know and certainly as far as the post makes, one event, in a public forum such as this is not an appropriate action for a site moderator, especially on an FPP. I think that it detracts from the quality of the site, and from the overall quality of the discussion that could possibly occur regarding said post.
Fumbling the football is an accident
Choosing to street race and drive recklessly is not. Given his complete and total lack of understanding of the inherent dangers of his actions, I concur with the author.
Thank goodness no one was hurt.
by Jeff Nusser on Sep 26, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
everett,
the purpose of a blog is to express opinions on an issue. This is hardly flaming.
19 years old is hardly and excuse for doing something so stupid. I fully realize that college kids will do stupid things like this for all eternity, but that does not mean they are immune from criticism, whether it’s from blog moderators or not.
He could have killed someone. He acted in a fashion not appropriate for a HUMAN BEING. There is no issue here of whether he is a football player being held to a higher standard. If this were a small story on the R-G or Oregonian website about an anonymous person in a similar accident, you could look at the comments and they would say the same thing about the people involved.
I hope Pleasant becomes much less of an idiot in the future, after some careful thought and consultation with his family, coaches, and mentors. But for now, as of Wednesday night, he’s an idiot.
They've gone to plaid!
Eddie Pleasant is an idiot.
As are most 19 year old college kids.
--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Idiot?
I don’t personally know Eddie Pleasant like the rest of you apparently do, so I’ll take your word for it. I don’t, however, have any problem at all with an editor saying his opinion. I have known some REALLY intellegent people that have done some REALLY stupid things.
I like the yellow helmets!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 26, 2008 12:12 PM PDT reply actions
*moderator
I like the yellow helmets!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 26, 2008 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...
But I think your opinion is disqualified due to the fact you like our Grellow Helmets.
Sorry.
:-)
It's spelled "S-h-u-f-e-l-t"
HA!
HAHAHA…good one. If we got Blount because of the helmets, I LOVE them!
I like the yellow helmets!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 26, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I respect everyone's right to disagree
but he’s an idiot. When I was 19, I didn’t use it as an excuse to street race. Most people don’t.
However, what’s done is done. If those involved can use the lessons of the experience to make themselves better, then there is a silver lining.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
This post lacks intelligence
I’m sorry, but what Eddie Pleasant ALLEGEDLY did has nothing to do with IQ or idiocy. It has to do with judgement, something that can lapse all too commonly even in people of smarts and character. It is amazing how a series of reports like this instantly makes so many poorly and incompletely informed people inarguable authorities on precisely how the incident should be approached and handled. Although none of us has enough knowledge to assess their veracity, there are other versions out there of the events in question besides the popular one that has everyone excited. I hope that those who actually have responsibility for judgement in this matter are more thoughtful and careful than those who can’t wait to see their emotional responses in electronic print.
You can try and defend it any way you want
but the bottom line it that activities that put life in danger are unacceptable. Period. Your point about the difference between judgment and intelligence in well made, but I think the two are linked.
I’m in no hurry to see my emotional responses in print. Perhaps you’re confusing me with Canzano. But I do want to press the issue on the involvment of Thomas and Holland, because I think its a valid and legitimate concern if they’re representing the University. I’ve also said that I trust Bellotti’s judgment on the matter.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Sep 26, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll apologize for my own emotional response
and I’ll admit to a protective bias as I’m a parent of one of Eddie’s teammates(not one involved in the accident). If Eddie, Darron, or Jamere are guilty of wrongdoing, I agree there should be consequences appropriate to their transgressions. What I’m responding to mostly, however, is that so many people are speaking and behaving as if they have all the pertinent facts in hand, whereas virtually none of them do(including myself). Not only is awaiting more complete information the fair thing to do, it might save many from having to choke down some undercooked crow.
you are correct
in that we don’t have all the facts in the matter. I’ve hope I’m clear in that I acknowledge that Thomas and Holland may very well not be guilty of anything. If that’s what Bellotti says, then I trust him.
I’ll also concede that name-calling of Pleasant isn’t helpful in the matter. But age or lack of judgment isn’t an acceptable excuse for this. And I just want to make sure that no stone is unturned, because we don’t want this happening again—because next time, people could be hurt.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Sep 27, 2008 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Eddie Pleasant Lacks Intelligence
I am so glad nobody was blogging about me when I was 19 years old. And how many other 19 year old boys, besides those that are on the Duck football team, do you guys care enough about to spend time ruminating and pontificating about?
This is nothing new. Young jocks occasionally get out of control.
But it sure does suck that OSU fans are busy crowing about bringing down USC, and we are fussing about trivial tragedies like this.
Where are the gay sheep when you need them?
"This is nothing new. Young jocks occasionally get out of control."
That doesn’t make it any more acceptable
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Sep 26, 2008 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I've heard now...
that police are looking for a third car the eddie swerved to avoid. now they are saying this had nothing to do with street-racing but he was just avoiding another car that came into their lane
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
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