The Locker call - right or wrong?

Seattle is a gloomy place this morning. Their saint in purple has been vilified by the almost universally despised Pac-10 officials. All of Husky nation feels cheated. This according to a couple guys I ran into at Starbucks this morning (I made nice after one guy booed me for wearing my Duck sweatshirt).
Let's be clear, I will never cry a tear for the Huskies.
The rule regarding unsportsmanlike conduct is pretty clear, and specifically mentions "throwing the ball high into the air." Get past the Huskie Homer interpretations of Locker's post TD actions. He threw the ball high into the air.
If you only watched the ESPN highlights, you don't get the full effect as to WHY Locker threw the ball high into the air.
Admittedly, I was still watching the Duck game on O-zone, had my TV volume down and was only watching UW's final drive is short glances. But here's how it looked...
BYU scored a TD to take a 28-21 lead with about 3:30 left in the fourth, this after trailing as much as 21-14 in the third. Locker then takes the Huskies 76 yards, overcoming penalties, ridiculously dropped passes by wide open receivers, a sack or maybe two, and a couple great plays by BYU. Locker gets 1st and goal with about 24 seconds, misses on a couple fade routes, then punches it in from a couple yards out on a typical Jake scramble to make it 28-27 with 0:02 on the clock.
Locker has just scored arguably the biggest TD of the Willingham era...the score that potentially helps save a coach's job...the play that lifts the weight one frickin' big monkey off a program's collective shoulders, at least until Oklahoma comes to town. So he celebrates by tossing the ball high over his shoulder and celebrating with his teammates.
He broke the rule and one Pac-10 official felt obligated. The rule sucks.
What I don't understand is why the NCAA cannot do a better job of writing these rules to specifically target showboating, which Locker did not do. There was no posing, no gangsta-style gesturing, not even so much as a glance in the direction of a BYU player. Just a celebration.
Some plays cannot have "judgement" involved - either the receiver caught a pass inbounds or he didn't. When refs fuck that up, we can go to replay. That will never be the case with unsportsmanlike conduct. It is almost impossible for the rule makers to fully remove any amount of official judgement for a penalty that involves player conduct. But it wouldn't be very hard to include language in the rule to give officials better lattitude for their judgement. Was there taunting involved? Did the player interact with opposing players? Did the player interact with people on the sidelines or in the stands? Did the player dance like a little girl? Or my personal favorite, did the player strike a Peter Pan pose, flex his muscles, tug at his jersy and act like a dick?
It can't really be that difficult to distinguish between being an asshole and celebrating a huge play with teammates. Can it?
Like I said, I'll never cry a tear for the Huskies. There's only one group of fans I can say I truly and deeply hate, and I live among them.
The refs used bad judgment. They should have let Locker's enthusiasm go unflagged. Then BYU would have blocked a run-of-the-mill PAT from the 3 yard line and all of us could've had yet another good laugh over how pathetic the Dawgs are. How dare those officials ruin it for the rest of us by giving the Huskies an out.
BTW - Any sense of irony, with more questionable Pac-10 officiating as a precursor to Oklahoma making a return visit to the Northwest?
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that was a
HORRIBLE call. it is an emotional game and the fuskies aren’t going to win many so that was a very emotional play. he did nothing to taunt or show boat. he flipped (although high, he is a big boy) the ball over his shoulder and turned directly to his teammates. also that would have been another good pac 10 win.
by joffthedeckk on
Sep 7, 2008 8:19 AM PDT
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No way to justify that call
Coming from someone with far less emotion invested in what happens to U-Dub than you quackies, I can honestly say that was one of the worst flags I’ve seen. The officials may as well have thrown a flag on Washington for trying to score. There was no excessive celebration, no self-aggrandizement, nor any mocking or taunting of BYU. It was a kid who just led his team to a (supposedly) game-tying TD in the last few seconds giving out a whoop of joy. You simply can’t flag that.
Oh, I don’t think U-Dub pulls it out in OT (but who knows), but still, this was a robbery.
Go Bears!
by SoCal Oski on
Sep 7, 2008 8:38 AM PDT
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well....
I was listening to ESPN late last night and they had the director of officials on for the NCAA talking about the call. He explained the rule and how they were cracking down on excessive celebration this year. Specifically, flipping the ball up or throwing the ball above you in a celebratory manner is, in fact, spelled out as a violation with a resulting penalty. You don’t like to see these calls in this situation but the ref would probably call the same penalty if it was the 2nd quarter tied at 7. I looked at the video and although it doesn’t seem overly excessive to me, I can see where they would call it. The rule is at the forefront of every ref’s mind this year.
If you don’t want this to happen more, work to change the rule because everyone “officially” is saying he made the right call based on the rule that is there.
--Dominic
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on
Sep 7, 2008 10:34 AM PDT
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Not so fast...
The rule in question is Rule 9, Section 2, Article 1 of the rule book.
Section C of that rule states that “throwing the ball high into the air” is an unsportsmanlike act.
From ESPN’s Ted Miller in his article about the call
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/pac10/0-2-38/Yes—it-was-a-terrible-call-Husky-nation.html
by everett on
Sep 7, 2008 5:19 PM PDT
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Pretty hard to say that was high in the air!
by everett on
Sep 7, 2008 5:20 PM PDT
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Are you kidding?
He threw it like 25 feet in the air… a quarterback could hardly throw that ball higher if he tried.
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by qrsouther on
Sep 7, 2008 5:24 PM PDT
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Watch it agin... he throws it downwards
by everett on
Sep 7, 2008 5:25 PM PDT
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??
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by qrsouther on
Sep 7, 2008 5:59 PM PDT
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Just what universe are you living in?!?
Did the Beavs upset Penn State in your fantasy-land too?
Omar...I'm done with you. Hello Darren Ford! Come to papa.
by PacBellBoozer on
Sep 7, 2008 11:25 PM PDT
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Did you see his message below?
He said he was wrong. :-)
Go Duckies!
by JShufelt on
Sep 8, 2008 9:21 AM PDT
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Thats what I thought I saw
I thought he did a backwards spike
by bradLL99 on
Sep 8, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
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from far away
It looks like he throws it up, but it could be a high bounce. The announcer says he spikes it. When they show the replay from the direction Jake’s facing it looks to me more like a spike – either way, as Jared posted below, they let Utah Block a kick
by bradLL99 on
Sep 8, 2008 10:37 AM PDT
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and ESPN settles it for me
upward throw
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3575847
by bradLL99 on
Sep 8, 2008 10:49 AM PDT
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Oh CRAP
Im Wrong
CRAP CRAP
I saw i wrong…
by everett on
Sep 7, 2008 5:26 PM PDT
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Wow
I just saw the play for the first time on youtube. While it may have been a technically correct call, it was an absolute travesty.
by ntrebon on
Sep 7, 2008 8:55 AM PDT
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I have seen so much far worse than that
Go uncalled, that’s why it bothers me…
Proud member of Duck nation!
by skywaker9 on
Sep 7, 2008 3:46 PM PDT
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They did get hosed.
I agree w/Seattle Quacker, I will never shed a tear for them, but they got ass raped on that one. I could see if Locker had a history of taunting or having a big mouth but he doesn’t. He was simply being a college kid who just scored a big TD to try and salvage his team, coach and season.
GO DUCKS!!!!
by DuckinNC on
Sep 7, 2008 9:25 AM PDT
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thats probably the best way to put
just let the kids play. no reason for this. if the speed limit is 65 and you go 70, “officially and technically” you are speeding, so you should get pulled over right? no. that was stupid
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by The VD Special on
Sep 10, 2008 8:48 PM PDT
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Bad Rule...
This call is hard to take, but was a strict interpitation of the rule. We all have to live / play with them. Sill it’s tough to think of what the final out come might have been.
by SODUCK on
Sep 7, 2008 10:31 AM PDT
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Like everyone else here has said
It’s a terrible rule that unfortunately the officials had to follow, much like the binding nature of the replay booth. It’s unfortunate for the Huskies, Jake Locker shouldn’t feel terrible, as he was the only one who could’ve possibly taken them all the way there, and the kicker should also be able to drill a 35 yarder from the middle hash no problem… it’s a series of unlikely scenarios that came into play, I doubt it ever happens again in a college football game again.
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by qrsouther on
Sep 7, 2008 11:41 AM PDT
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The rule say that throwing the ball "high into the air" is automatic, not tossing it down behind your head.
Nope… CRAP. I’m wrong. CRAP CRAP
LOL
by everett on
Sep 7, 2008 5:25 PM PDT
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Everett... Everett...
You’re not supposed to drink the bong water.
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by qrsouther on
Sep 7, 2008 5:58 PM PDT
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awful rule
I hate the Huskies but it rule is unfair! Who knew if they would have made the xp or if they could’ve won in overtime, so this unfair penalty didn’t even give UW a chance. This year’s crackdown on celebration is taking away the spirit and passion of the sport.
by Harringtoncuz3 on
Sep 7, 2008 5:01 PM PDT
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Havent read the rest of this post's comments but...
absolutely wrong. no question. they said it wasnt a “judgment” call, but the NCAA needs to let the guys have a little fun. it was like he ran in untouched then chucked the ball like 30 feet up. he just tossed it up a little over his shoulder… whats wrong with that?
"There's only one way to become a hitter. Go up to the plate and get mad. Get mad at yourself and mad at the pitcher." -Ted Williams
by AnaheimHalos61 on
Sep 7, 2008 6:05 PM PDT
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Angels fan huh?
>:(
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by qrsouther on
Sep 7, 2008 6:26 PM PDT
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I'm with you...
That damn Rally Monkey is quite possibly one of the lamest things I’ve ever seen!
Omar...I'm done with you. Hello Darren Ford! Come to papa.
by PacBellBoozer on
Sep 7, 2008 11:27 PM PDT
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terrible, terrible call
that said, you’ve got to make your extra point. 35 yard kick should still be a gimme.
--Dave
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by Addicted to Quack on
Sep 8, 2008 7:11 AM PDT
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While the rule sorta sucks...
It was a stupid play. In pretty much any sport, if you throw the ball like that, you’re gonna get some sort of penalty. Absolutely stupid move by Locker. I know you’re excited, but there are plenty of ways to celebrate without drawing a penalty.
These penalties have gotten much mroe strict this year, and you gotta play smart, even if the rule is dumb.
Oh, and there is no excuse for this…

--jtlight
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by jtlight on
Sep 8, 2008 9:27 AM PDT
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Yeeeah...
That’s not good.
As for the penalty call, it’s like getting pulled over for going 60 in a 55. Yeah, it was illegal, but COME ON!
I know the kicker has to put a lower trajectory on his kick and blah blah blah – but still, it isn’t a 50 yard kick. If you want to win, you gotta block for your guys kickin’ the ball.
Not enough props are being given to BYU for the blocked kick. Good teams overcome their situation. BYU stepped up, UW didn’t.
Go Duckies!
by JShufelt on
Sep 8, 2008 9:45 AM PDT
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I second that motion!
Pretty much exactly what I logged on to say!
by Dano35 on
Sep 8, 2008 10:07 AM PDT
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Great picture says it all...
It’s four against two, with BYU’s #41 clearly creating a hole for the guy coming through the middle. BYU clearly game-planned to overload the left side of UW’s line and executed well schemed block. Who the hell is #79 blocking? And I only count 10 Huskies in the photo? Am I missing one?
Superior execution is why BYU won this game.
- Jeremy
by JConant on
Sep 8, 2008 12:23 PM PDT
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You're right, 10 men...
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by qrsouther on
Sep 8, 2008 7:36 PM PDT
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10 men
AAAAAAND thats why Ty is getting fired. Can’t even get 11 men on the field to block the game tying XP with 2 seconds left? hmm….
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by The VD Special on
Sep 10, 2008 8:51 PM PDT
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To block for
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by qrsouther on
Sep 10, 2008 9:09 PM PDT
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Where's the ball...?
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by qrsouther on
Sep 8, 2008 7:36 PM PDT
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In front of BYU's #4
Look at the football-shaped shadow on the ground.
by royroty on
Sep 9, 2008 12:02 PM PDT
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