TP and Catron, getting too old for their own good?

by trumpetduck on Jan 13, 2009 10:22 PM PST

So I was readiing the RG today, I believe Clark, and the article was talking about the decline of TP and Catron's numbers in Pac-10 play. Which got me to thinking. With their lack of size and relatively unimpressive skill are they just getting to old for conference play? TP is short, yeah, but as a freshmen he was a big unknown, to everybody. So a team and their perimeter defenders had very little help in figuring out how to stop him. He got open looks and he canned them. His second year teams have played him 2-3 times and have a season worth of tape. And now they have twice that and everybody knows how to stop him, which is not that hard if you know what he does and doesn't do. He is too small to play to his weaknesses. If you buy that logic the same can be said for Catron, an undersized player with a lack of diversity in his skill set.

So am I on to something or crazy and starving for quality play? Unfortunatly this is not a problem one can really solve, so maybe I hope I'm wrong.

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by Takimoto on Jan 13, 2009 10:24 PM PST reply actions

really though, ill buy it. I’ve never been the biggest fan of Catron, he’s two inches away from having to play big to survive. he’s a 6’5" power forward. that’s as ridiculous as having a 5’6" shooting guard. oh wait…

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by Takimoto on Jan 13, 2009 10:39 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

Their talent still exists

The problem is complacency and hard work. It takes a certain discipline to work through a season with a young team like this, and I don’t think TP and Joevan were fully committed to that.

by Freeing Ray Schafer on Jan 14, 2009 12:15 AM PST reply actions

I think in TPs case...

He was a great supporting player, but cannot carry a team. He had Brooks to do most of the work his freshman year, but I do not trust TP to run an offense or lead a team. Just let him get open and shoot, but don’t depend on him for anything else.

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by jtlight on Jan 14, 2009 8:49 AM PST reply actions

This is the biggest flaw in my argument. I agree with you point for sure.

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by trumpetduck on Jan 14, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions

This makes sense to me in a lot of levels. From what I can tell, it appears that TP and Catron are just trying to do too much. I don’t know if they feel a sense of pressure being the veterans on the team but they just need to go out and play team ball and not try to be “the man”. I think a lot was made about the passing of the torch to those guys after last season and they may just not be the types of guys to handle that well. Of course, remember that Aaron Brooks didn’t fully develop until his senior year and was having a horrible time before that.

--Dominic

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Jan 14, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions

AB showed flashes his junior year though. I remember watching him drop 40 in my first game in the pit freshmen year. It was a nobody, but we lost to some of those nobodies this year.

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by trumpetduck on Jan 14, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions