The Oregon Ducks Elevator - Nate Costa, Cliff Harris and ESPN Coverage
by dvieira on Oct 12, 2009 10:00 AM PDT
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We're 5-1 overall and sit atop the Pac-10 standings at the midpoint of the season. If you would have told me that we would only have one loss by this point given our schedule, I would have been very pleased. I had pretty much penciled in losses to either Boise State or Utah, plus Cal given our inexperience on the offensive and defensive lines. So far, I'm +1 on my predictions,with our only loss to Boise State in the perfect storm of a game. Let's check in on this bye week version of the elevator.
Nate Costa: Before the game started, I was a bit nervous about our chances against UCLA, mainly because of a new quarterback making his first ever start in Pasadena. As the game kicked off, I found myself at peace with the idea that here was a man that personified grit, determination and never giving up in the face of extreme adversity. No matter the outcome, I was proud to a witness to a guy who had conquered his demons and became the starter for the Oregon Ducks. No one could take that away, no matter of the outcome. Oregon could have lost the game by 50 and I would have still been proud. Here's to you Nate and your journey back. Elevator: Up 2 Floors
Chip Kelly: It's easy to move someone up or down in the elevator based on the outcome of the game but this isn't one of those times. You want to know how good a coach Chip is? Look at him talk to Nate Costa after his pick in the endzone. He was joking with him, getting him to relax, smiling, doing all the right things. Some coaches could yell at a guy, destroying his confidence before sending him back out there to finish the game with a monkey on his back. You already figure that Chip knows the personal side of the game with the LGB situation but this moment with Nate was just another indication of the human side of the coach. Elevator: Up 1 Floor
ESPN Coverage: Look, I understand you're trying to give Van Halen some pub but did we really need the music history lesson? This is coming from a guy that studied music history, has a degree, and loves talking about stuff like that. We didn't need to hear about it for 5 minutes DURING THE GAME. Call the game, that's what you get paid to do. Elevator: Down 1 Floor
Jerry Azzinaro: I admit, I didn't know what to make of you before the season started and I'm sorry. You took a group that had a lot of question marks coming into the season into a powerful force in a great defense. The goalline stand against UCLA? Priceless. Jerry has inspired confidence in a unit that has more than delivered, especially in the last 3 games. Elevator: Up 1 Floor
Kenny Rowe: You're a monster. I don't know what else to say. Ridiculous play big man, just flat out. You were all around the ball, sacks, fumble recoveries, huge stops. Elevator: Up 2 Floors
LaMichael James: If his game stats of 20 carries for 152 yards wasn't enough, his 49 yard run from his own goalline should do it for you. The speed by which he makes cuts and decisions is just unreal. He's been the offensive MVP of the season for Oregon this year. Who needs thunder and lightning when you got one big giant storm coming at you? Elevator: In the Penthouse
Cliff Harris: Cliff saw his first real action on Saturday, working against UCLA receivers. By all accounts, he did very well in his role. Anthony Gildon was supposed to get the start but have we seen the Harris-era begin? Elevator: Up 1 Floor
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Not sure whom to hit with this
But in general terms, “Punt return decision-making” should be down a floor or so. You don’t field the ball inside your own 10, period.
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Totally on Chip Kelly.
That was awesome, seeing him and Nate on the sidelines after the pick. He was probably saying the same things that we were all saying after it happened, just, “Come on, how often does that happen?” Nate Costa was put at ease and I like Chip’s ability to care for the player as a person.
However, I’d give ESPN a “Down 2”, their camerawork was absolutely abominable. I don’t know about you, but I don’t focus on the linemen when we’re in punt formation. We spend 99% of the game in the shotgun and our backfield can’t be seen.
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I think ESPN should get knocked down 2 floors
Based on their lack of PAC 10 coverage and their continued failure to report the REAL story on Oregon, their DEFENSE. Am I the only one who was shocked after the game when Jesse Palmer called out Oregon’s offense as a “sleeping giant” I’ve heard him say that phrase 3 times now, the last two times (after Cal, and WSU) were appropriate, but I felt then as I do now that he (and ESPN as a whole) has missed the story about the Defense. Come on Jesse I Know you are a SEC homer but you’re payed to be an analyst, so ANALYZE! Please just look at the stats for that game, one quick glance is all it takes, DEFENSE won this game for Oregon, this has been the story all year, and everyone knows it but ESPN.
ESPN coverage should not be allowed on our elevator, they are terrible with Pac 10
But I do want to give props to ESPN radio. I was at work from the forth quarter on and was listing to the radio all afternoon. God damn do the radio guys love our D. Mel Kiper made us his biggest surprise of the season, not that we are winning, but that we are winning with D and the turn around from BSU. If you want ESPN analyzes listen to the radio. If you want graphics, games, SEC and guys who dont care if they know teams, watch tv.
Much of the credit goes to a defense that hasn’t allowed a substantial touchdown drive in nearly a month
by trumpetduck on Oct 12, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
LGB – currently serving as our Director of Elevator Security – just kicked ESPN out of the building.
By the grace of Juju, we all are day-to-day.
by JConant on Oct 12, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
excellent
I was thinking about this Sat, but remember when ABC was in charge of covering the Pac 10 with Keith Jackson and Dan Fouts. Those were the days, they knew all about Pac 10 football. I miss that. The Pac 10 is back and we need a top tier announcing pair to start living Pac 10 ball.
Much of the credit goes to a defense that hasn’t allowed a substantial touchdown drive in nearly a month
by trumpetduck on Oct 12, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but ESPN only cares about how many people are watching, not how much those people like it. So they don’t really try to cater to people who will watch regardless of the coverage .
They try to cater to people who like to hear that Tebow was “nothing short of superhuman” on an 11/16 for 134, 1TD 1INT passing and 17 for 38 rushing night but who won’t read an article about how Tebow was pedestrian.
To a large market in LA who likes to hear that Pete Carroll is the greatest thing since sliced bread and to another large market in NY that likes to hear how their rookie QB Sanchez is also the greatest thing since sliced bread.
To the conference that gets the highest ratings (the Big 10) and the one that clearly has all the best teams, since they’ve won 5 of the BCS championships and have never lost when allowed in (the SEC) and not to one that’s way the heck out West that few East Coasters have ties to. Except for when it comes to propping up the LA team. Oh my goodness, USC is awesome. Awesome awesome awesome. And you know that they’re good, because they beat up on the Pac-10, and the Pac-10 is good. But we’re not going to talk about how the Pac-10 is good. Just USC. Because they’re awesome. And have a larger fanbase.
And, finally, to your average fan for whom a 7-3 game is pathetic and boring, regardless of whether it was great defense and bad offense, and who therefore care to hear more about Oregon’s great offense than their great defense, regardless of which one is more true.
Me, bitter? Noooooooooo.
*bump* U!
*set* of!
*SPIKE* OOOOOOOOO!
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Also, the Bayou Classic pwns whatever your I-AA does.
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 12, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Come on, you know Tebow>Jesus.
Only Tebow can spike a baby on the pavement in front of a crowd and be forgiven by all. TOUCHDOWN, bitches!
by ArbyOSU on Oct 12, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t know what’s more amazing about this picture: the Gators crocs, or the fact that literally every other person in the picture has a smile on their face.
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
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except the baby
Much of the credit goes to a defense that hasn’t allowed a substantial touchdown drive in nearly a month
by trumpetduck on Oct 12, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Babies aren’t people.
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
oh lets go down that road
Much of the credit goes to a defense that hasn’t allowed a substantial touchdown drive in nearly a month
by trumpetduck on Oct 12, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
What the, what isn't people road? I'll play your game you rogue.
Smokers
Anyone that has bought SUVs in the last two years
Clowns
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
i was making a joke about people arguing about abortion, but your game is more fun
anybody of 50 EPSN hire to be a college football “expert”
Much of the credit goes to a defense that hasn’t allowed a substantial touchdown drive in nearly a month
Coincidentally, in that picture, Tebow had just performed a very rare abortion REVERSAL.
This is merely the celebration.
Righting wrongs and runnin’ the pigskin. That’s what Tebow does.
Replace smokers with adults who wear crocs and I’m down.
(What-I enjoy the occasional drunken cig, so what?!)
That doesn’t count, I’m talking regular smokers. A drunk cig is just a vice.
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Every time Tim Tebow smiles
A child is saved. He’s that good ya know.
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I think the market in LA under values the true quality of sliced bread.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
Do you not also believe this about NY?
I do, but as a Saints fan, I have had a rather biased sample.
*bump* U!
*set* of!
*SPIKE* OOOOOOOOO!
"[Louisiana] is the greatest football state in America."~Les Miles
Also, the Bayou Classic pwns whatever your I-AA does.
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 12, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
You're right I should have specified ESPN TV
specifically College Football Live, Gameday, and Final. Also known as how many hours a week can you talk about Tim Tebow’s concussion and Sam Bradford’s shoulder? Are they big stories? Yes. Are there other stories out there? I think so. I think Ted Miller does a pretty good job, I also think some of the non-specific college guys, like Jim Rome do a decent job picking up on the “other” stories in the PAC 10 that don’t include USC.
Tip of the hat to Costa. A backup who can manage a game and (in the second half) keep the offense relatively on track on his thrice repaired knee? Pretty impressive.
Hey Arby, question
Had Canfield had knee problems before? In every game he’s had quite a heavy brace.
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Crap, I dunno...
I think he’s like 30 or something, so maybe it’s just age. Feels like he’s been at OSU for about a decade, for better or worse.
I think he wears the brace just to look cool.
As far as injuries go, I can only think of the torn labrum that has limited his availability/role over the course of his career. The kid’s in great shape this year though. I just wish he had a slightly quicker release at times.
He also seems to be the apple of interviewers' eyes.
I don’t know how he does it, but the bridge of his nose has some sort of perpetual bleeding going on after every game too.
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Some heads just don’t fit in helmets very well and when those helmets slide down, you become the happy recipient of a season long wound on your nose.
It sucks. That was my senior year of football right there—bandage, scab and then broken open again. It’s gross and annoying. Plus, it hurts a little bit.
That's why Schutt Airs should be outlawed.
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I don't know about helmets really.
I had a Ridell. Still own it. Had to buy it to go to football camps over the summer. Spent a lot of cash to have my nose split open three times.
REVOS SUCK
THEY ARE UGLY
A much needed bye week; and two whole weeks to focus the inner hatred of UW even moreso than normal.
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Hey! I never called D.T ugly, haha
But he would look so damn good in a nice DNA!!!
But you seriously like the helmet that this….thing wears?
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I never called D.T ugly, haha
But he would look so damn good in a nice DNA!!!
He would look something like this:
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A thing of beauty!
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When I played High School football
It was Ridell’s on all the kids. Unless you got a concussion, then you got a Bike air helmet, this was in the 80’s, so i don’t know about the new technology, but it was the case back then that the Air was better at preventing serious brain injuries, in theory.
I played HS ball until 99, my senior year, and it was similar. There were definitely different grades of Ridell helmets.
The schutt and bike air helmets were sprinkled in for no apparent reason. We had a few concussion prone players wear those exterior “bumper” lids that cover the helmet for extra padding. Not sure that they do that anymore.
Yep.
My high school carries Revos for most players but have a couple of the Schutt DNAs and even old Schutt Airs. If you’re a good player and a hard worker, you generally get the DNA helmet. If you joined the team late or were a kicker (grr), you got one of the crappy Schutt Airs.
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Oh, you're talking older.
See, that’s the classic shell helmets. The Schutt Air, and the earliest Riddells had that style. It’s the kind that, say, Quizz wears. Then you have the Riddell Revolution helmets, which are modeled by guys like Casey Matthews and Spencer Paysinger. Oregon uses Revolutions and Schutt DNAs exclusively. DNAs are the futuristic looking ones with the exterior cut. Jeremiah Masoli and most other skill players wear them.
A helmet that neither Oregon nor Oregon State carry is the Schutt ION-4D, which can be seen on Daryll Clark.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
when are we getting our in-depth helmet fanpost. Seriously how do you know so much about helmets? There are just so many awesome one out there right now.
Much of the credit goes to a defense that hasn’t allowed a substantial touchdown drive in nearly a month
by trumpetduck on Oct 12, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea.
I’m like an autistic savant with helmets.
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Wait a minute.
You’re telling me that there’s a state of the art piece of football related equipment that UO has neglected to provide its players?!
Next thing you’re going to tell me is that they just install Dreamcasts in the locker room.
Kidding aside, it’s good to see helmet technology advancing. The frequency of concussions even at the middle school level is pretty staggering. People always fail to really comprehend how serious a concussion is.
Yep. Most people don't realize that a concussion is literally the skull blunting the brain.
Put that way, it sounds an awful lot grosser.
Either way, Revolutions are supposed to be especially good for head protection. I’d personally testify to that they’re way more comfortable than a Schutt Air.
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Ducks bounce back? Or, get 'no bounce?' http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dufresne12-2009oct12,0,6125811.column
“The Ducks came to Los Angeles without their starting quarterback and two starting cornerbacks and dumped UCLA’s Bruins, 24-10. Oregon is more resilient than Flubber, yet the Ducks get no bounce? USC, which had a bye, moved up one spot to No. 6 Sunday in the Associated Press rankings. Oregon stayed stuck on No. 13.
Maybe it’s true only one team matters in the PAC 10." By Chris Dufresne
I felt the same way when I saw the polls
We moved to 14th in the Harris though. I just hope OSU doesn’t beat USC before we get to them, or else we won’t get moved as much
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disagree
if we don’t go to the national championship the polls don’t matter. So really, unless things get crazy, the polls dont matter. Any loss by USC in the pac 10 is one step closer to the rose bowl. Love any USC loss I can get.
Much of the credit goes to a defense that hasn’t allowed a substantial touchdown drive in nearly a month
Agree
Polls and BCS rankings matter for two things. Getting into the national championship and getting an at-large bid. Winning the conference is an automatic bid. The more the other Pac-10 teams continue to beat up on one another, and the more that the Ducks keep winning, the closer that comes to be a reality.
So long as this team continues to remain focused on the next game, and can continue winning, the standings and rankings will take care of themselves.
"It amazes me that you understand (...) the number one play of what their offense is and what they do best, AND you still can't stop it!" - Craig James
by AcadianTraverse on Oct 12, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I was actually thinking about this earlier today.
If OSU beats USC – I actually will be happy, and I could careless about how that will effect our rankings. That would let us lose to USC, and STILL probably be the favorites to go to the Rose Bowl.
But, still, the most important thing the Ducks can do is just go out, and win.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
Yeah, when the teams doing well it’s easy to start drifting into hypotheticals.
Most important thing now is a game in two weeks against a team that has not yet lost at home in Pac-10 play.
"It amazes me that you understand (...) the number one play of what their offense is and what they do best, AND you still can't stop it!" - Craig James
by AcadianTraverse on Oct 12, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN coverage
While most of you complain about the coverage on college football live and other things, it is true Oregon doesn’t get a lot of play. WHENEVER they do, its a replay of LGB hitting Hout. I’m fine with them waiting in the weeds and people can recant and say “Oh I knew they would get there” The ONE thing that bothers me is that USC continues to be everybody’s darling, to think that I almost went there instead of Oregon makes me sick. I am extremely pleased with ESPN and ABC (DISNEY) picking up these games, because if they didn’t I would be stuck watching a box score or a small screen with a pirated feed. ESPN, while not favoring Oregon vocally, has broadcast TONS of games this year. Its not a malicious attempt at excluding Oregon.
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
You’re exactly right. It’s not malicious. Not premeditated. They just aren’t very good.
What I think most of us wish for is for the broadcast announcers to have a clue what they’re talking about. QuackinAK’s example of Jesse Palmer’s constant references to Oregon offense tells the story. Going from a consummate pro like Keith Jackson, not only well connected to college football, but also to the Pac-10 and Pacific Northwest specifically, to guys like Palmer or Bob Davie has been rough. At times it seems like the ABC announcers do about five minutes of pre-game study.
By the grace of Juju, we all are day-to-day.
And, what is so Fucking important about Van Halen that MUST be discussed in a 3 point football game?
especially a game which I am viewing and in which LMJ is running?
I agree to both respones
Educated announcers would be GREAT, and I was shocked at the Van Halen references? What did they have to do with Oregon or UCLA?
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In my humble opinion
Jerry Azzinaro should be up more than one floor. My vote is for him to be in the penthouse chillin with LMJ. One of the big questions coming into the season was the play of the D-Line. He has taken a group of guys that have all been in the system for a few years that have been relatively quiet,except for Will Tukuafu, stable group and made them into bonafide studs. That goaline stop in the first half set a tone for the entire game, just think how the complexion of the game might have changed had UCLA gone in for a TD. I think that he has done wonders with that group and he deserves a lion’s share of the credit. Don’t get me wrong the line is playing lights out, but to get to the level that they are playing at is really remarkable.
To go out and ruin somebody's dreams like that, it feels real good," Oregon receiver Jaison Williams.
by DuckinNC on Oct 12, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The great thing about Coach Azz is,
If he were in the penthouse with LMJ, he would be making him (LMJ) do windsprints and be pushing him to ridiculous levels of football intensity.
So “chillin” would not quite be the right word to use in this scenario.
A much needed bye week; and two whole weeks to focus the inner hatred of UW even moreso than normal.
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Cliff Harris/Anthony Gildon
Anthony Gildon did get the start as you know the Ducks are short on back up in the corner postion. Both guys got flags. Don’t think Harris can hang with USC’s recievers, can you say rag doll
That's three weeks from now
and by that time we’ll have TJ Ward back, which should give us the option of putting Javes Lewis back at CB if Gildon and Harris can’t cut it.
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The way Lewis has proven he can hit...
He would in that scenario be one ridiculously scary CB! I also completely trust Boyett covering the other safety spot
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Boyett’s done a great job filling in for TJ, and TJ might be a better rover than a free safety anyway.
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by Takimoto on Oct 12, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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