Quack Fix: Poll roundup, the conditioned ducks, and end of the Trojan empire?
by jtlight on Nov 2, 2009 8:32 AM PST
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I don't know about you, but I'm still smiling. What a spectacular weekend.
- Ok, we're nearing the time of the year where I will actually start looking at the polls. Oregon is the top one-loss team in the nation and that's really all that we can say at this point. In the Pac-10, the dismantling of USC made clear the best team.
- Rob Moseley's story today is on the conditioning of this Oregon team. The Ducks wore down the Trojans physically (see Bair video after the jump). The changes that Kelly has brought to practice have helped turn the Ducks into one of the quickest and best conditioned in the nation.And honestly, their ability to run teams into the ground in the 3rd quarter reminds of of the USC teams in the 2002-2005 years.
- The OC Register talks as if this game was the end of the Trojan Empire, and Matt Hinton backs that up with some pretty astounding numbers. The Ducks had a chance to do something amazing, and they surpassed my wildest hopes. Now, I'm not willing to say that this is the end for USC. They are still ridiculously talented, but the rest of the Pac-10 (led by Oregon) is rising. USC has more competition in recruiting, and the level of the coaching in the Pac-10 is rising as well. It'll be interesting to see how Pete Carroll and the USC players, who were utterly flabbergasted by the loss, bounce back from their first blowout.
- As always, Ken Woody's breakdown is worth the read. Of note, Oregon's defense held USC to 4/14 on 3rd down conversions.
- The Wall Street Journal questions whether this win will actually hurt the Pac-10, and leave USC, or another Pac-10 team, out of a BCS Bowl. Arizona's loss to Washington really hurts the conference. If Arizona had not dropped that game, they could have gone 10-2, and would have had a decent shot at a BCS at-large bid.
- LeGarrette Blount has no timetable for reinstatement. Kelly, the University, and the Pac-10 are now talking about it, however. I assume we'll have some more info this week.
As always, leave your links and any more comments of celebration below. There are a few videos after the jump as well. GO DUCKS!
Inside the Pac-10
Interview with Brandon Bair
Interview with Chip Kelly after the game
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Jerry Azzinaro
“The toughest guy ALWAYS WINS!!!!!”
Man I love this defense
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by Matt Daddy on Nov 2, 2009 8:39 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
WOW.
The stat of USC losses since 2005 is RIDICULOUS.
They had only lost 7 Games by -26 Points and we drop -27 on them?
That’s amazing.
"Q: What would you say the loudest stadiums are? Corso: I think Autzen Stadium. Per person, the Oregon stadium is the loudest stadium I’ve ever been in. The fact that it’s so low to the ground doesn’t allow the sound to escape." Lee Corso, ESPN GameDay.
by DuckFanAndy on Nov 2, 2009 8:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just unreal...
When you read Mosely’s piece about conditioning the quotes from Jackson and Ward are just awesome. This is after their biggest win of the year, knocking off the team everyone wants to knock off, and all they can talk about is getting better for next week. I’ve never seen a Duck team this focused. Chip Kelly is the reason why.
by kolson82 on Nov 2, 2009 9:18 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Now anyone who wonders why our team looked raw
In the early games need not wonder why. Fall camp was focused almost entirely on conditioning, which has pain off hugely.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 9:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
No one is fooling themselves by thinking our D-line was better than USC’s O-line…but you can’t deny the fact that they got outworked. I just loved seeing that, and I’ve always thought since the Utah game that as long as we’re close at the half, I just don’t see this team losing focus at the half — and they’re freaks of nature: they don’t get tired. I love it. I don’t think Carroll and his staff could understand how our undersized D punished them like that in the second half.
by kolson82 on Nov 2, 2009 9:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that our dline is not getting credit though...
for their talent. Kenny Rowe and W. Tukuafu are as talented a DE tandem as you will find. Bair is just an unique physical speciman…at 270 pounds and little body fat he is a problem (obviously don’t put him in the middle on the 3-3-5). I don’t remember this much depth ever. Turner, Toeaina, Clark and now Irvin and T. Monty seem to provide little drop off.
by BisonDucks on Nov 2, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My line about Saturday
USC may have been overrated and the Ducks underrated but yes we’re just that good.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 9:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like the WSJ’s logic here. They make it sound as though there are Pac-10 teams, and then there’s USC. If we had lost that game (seems a laughable notion in hindsight), we would not have received an at-large bid most likely, so it’s tragic that USC won’t but alright if we wouldn’t? I think the better story to take out of this weekend is that the Pac-10 is clearly deeper than anyone wants to give us credit for.
by jcolomy on Nov 2, 2009 9:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Its the eastern media
And not only the eastern media but an outlet that doesn’t exactly cover sports.
I agree though, Saturday should put to rest the notion that the Pac-10 is really the Pac-1 (USC).
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by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I love about Chip
He doesn’t care about that stuff. Yes, as fans we have every right to look at the polls, or wonder if there’s indeed an East Coast bias…but really I am just relieved that Bellotti built the foundation (and did all the politicking in the media to get noticed) so that Kelly doesn’t have to feel uncomfortable doing it. Again, I love what Bellotti did for this school, but he was a little too concerned at times with what others thought of the program…I think it was necessary to a degree in getting noticed, but Kelly is just such a breath of fresh air. It’s scary how focused this team is, and really, this year more than any other, I don’t care about an East Coast bias. If Oregon takes care of business we’ll start the year next year in the top 5. Just win the day, baby!
by kolson82 on Nov 2, 2009 9:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love CK's attitude and agree fully
If you win, the rewards will come. If you don’t, they won’t. So therefore, win every day, every game and you’ll get to where you want to me.
As Masoli said"That’s Oregon Football. That’s just how we roll."
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by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we have to remember too
that we more or less have a 2 game buffer zone between us and everyone in the pac 9 (i no longer count WSU). although arizona still has 1 conference loss, they have to go to USC, and i dont think usc will drop that game in any way shape or form.
Q: How many OSU freshmen does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None, it's a sophomore course.
by axemen23 on Nov 2, 2009 9:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Arizona is the only team besides Oregon that controls their own destiny. I’m still very afraid of that game. Foles has done very well, and their defense is quite good.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 2, 2009 9:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The thing about Arizona
that scares me the most is how they do these quick one or two step drops with their QB and then rely on their WR’s speed to beat you…now, that kind of plays into our strength with our speedy D, but if Arizona is playing well and are close in that game, then the fans become a factor — and that’s a tough place to play when the fans actually care. However, I’ve watched about three ‘Zona games this year and whatever mojo they have with their offense (they usually strike quickly) they often can’t sustain. I’ve seen them go up 21-0 and then in the third qtr. it’ll be 21-10…so I think Oregon will be okay, as long as it’s close by the second half, because we all know what this team does in the 3rd qtr…we’re pretty much unstoppable.
Plus, for whatever reasons, Bellotti was horrible against Stoops. I think Chip will fare much better at preparing his team to go down to Tuscon. But yes…Arizona has been the one team that has scared me the most (other than USC)…I don’t worry about Stanford too much.
by kolson82 on Nov 2, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There are no gimmes on the schedule
They’re ALL trap games.
And remember, we lost our opening to Boise.
FOCUS, FOCUS, FOCUS, FOCUS!
This week -———> Stanford.
by gamedaytribe on Nov 2, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
PANIC!!
There are four teams left on our schedule who are very capable of beating Oregon if we don’t show up mentally focused and ready to play. Based on what we’ve seen so far this year, I have a lot of confidence in this team.
OTOH, for JuJu’s sake, stop talking about a shot at the NC until after the Civil War. At that point, we can look up and see what the B©S system spits out as a matchup for us.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
by M. Fletcher on Nov 2, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Zona still has to play the big 3
Us, USC and CAl.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They have Cal on the road the week before we play them. That’s a big game in terms of making me feel better heading into Tuscon.
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
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by Takimoto on Nov 2, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A bit more on Tony Washington, last nights recruit, from Greg Biggins:
“They’re all about putting pressure on the quarterback,” Washington said. "They bring the heat and I love to rush the passer. I’ll be coming in as a standup defensive end meaning sometimes I’ll rush the passer and other times I’ll drop back in to coverage. It’s almost like a hybrid type position, but they like my size and athleticism to do it and I think it fits in well with what I’m good at.
Oregon has done an amazing job at recruiting talented kids that can play a lot of positions. Washington sounds like he’ll play like Kenny Rowe, and will fit well with Isaac Dixon and Chris McCain. Recruiting for the secondary is going very well. If we pick up a couple of out big D-line targets, this will be one of our best defensive recruiting years ever.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 2, 2009 10:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I read that last night, too...
and it seems that this is now a point of emphasis with Kelly and the defensive coaches. I wasn’t sure if Aliotti was going to stick with this scheme in the long run, but this is an encouraging sign that they continue to go after kids who fit that hybrid, Elvis Dumervil/Demarcus Ware type role. I think this kid will fit in nicely with Aliotti’s new scheme.
by kolson82 on Nov 2, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
More recruiting from the weekend. From Duck Territory (subscription)….
Gabe King: “The game was electrifying. Every moment of the game was electrifying.”
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 2, 2009 10:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
He was apparently seen dancing on the field
With the players after the game wearing a UO hat. I think we got him.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
From the same article, he’s very torn…He’s still no better than 50/50, but the game was definitely huge for him.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 2, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FREE LeGarrett!
Assuming he’s done what’s been asked of him, it’s time to unleash him in the second half of games! He will punish those tiring opposing defenses until they turn into Roberto Duran… Hit them with the lightning of LMJ for 2.5 quarters, then bring the thunder of LG!
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
by M. Fletcher on Nov 2, 2009 10:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
FYI Masoli is going to be on Jim Rome's show on 95.5 in Portland
Sometime around 11 AM PT.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 10:37 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, who was it who had this sign? Was on the sign suggestions thread
by gamedaytribe on Nov 2, 2009 10:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
That was 017903
Look for this on T-Shirts and Hoodies at the game We’ll be sportin’ ’em.
"Your Trojans can’t cover our Dickson"
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter…
by 071903 on Oct 26, 2009 8:54 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Kenny Wheaton #20; The Pick - 1994 v UW. Matthew Harper #20; The Pick #2 - 2007 v USC. John Boyett #20;...
by Matt Daddy on Nov 2, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't me...
But one of the many in our entourage…
I was stuck in SoCal, wishing I was there. I was certainly making enough noise to be heard from Autzen tho!
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
by 071903 on Nov 2, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wowza
Did you hear that Lamike James is actually a very sophisticated robot from the future sent back in time for our viewing pleasure?
by iam james on Nov 2, 2009 10:44 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not surprised at all.
I mean DUH, that is the only explanation there is when watching him play!
"They gained seven or eight yards a carry on their bad plays." -Pete Carroll
by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hail skynet
Under winter skies
We stand glorious
And with Oden on our side
We are victorious
by WhiteRabbit on Nov 3, 2009 1:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like this a lot….
Ducks are inside the Moshofsky Center in helmets this morning. LeGarrette Blount is in a scout jersey, the No. 7 of Toby Gerhart.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 2, 2009 11:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
THAT IS AWESOME!!!!!
Go LGB, give us some experience against a big running back, then come back and pick up some big yards late in the game…
How jacked do you think LGB will be if/when he gets his first carry in a game since the suspension?
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by Matt Daddy on Nov 2, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be at Autzen for the ASU game
Love to see him run out onto the field that day and get a huge ovation.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Masoli on Rome
Rome – “Jeremiah, what’s it going be like when LBG comes back?”
Masoli – “I’ll feel sorry for all the defenses we’ll be facing”
Kenny Wheaton #20; The Pick - 1994 v UW. Matthew Harper #20; The Pick #2 - 2007 v USC. John Boyett #20;...
by Matt Daddy on Nov 2, 2009 11:30 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
A lot of people said that we were too harsh on LGB
But i would rather be to harsh than throw out a joke suspension like Florida did with Brandon Spikes. If you have not seen the eye gouge give this a look. Urban Meyer suspended Spikes for a half, like two quarters, terrible. And when you factor in how their D struggled without him, because of injury, this becomes fishy in my mind. The point being, I think Chip handled Blount’s situation so well. It is paying dividends with this program and will do so into the future. Chip continues to prove he is one of the best young coaches in the country.
The Ducks' 27-point margin was one more than the margins of all seven of USC's losses since 2004 combined.
by trumpetduck on Nov 2, 2009 12:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
not just for one half
but one half against VANDY! total joke
Under winter skies
We stand glorious
And with Oden on our side
We are victorious
by WhiteRabbit on Nov 2, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The guy ought to have to go piss in a bottle...
Somebody do somethin’ like that got to be out of his brain for some reason
by DONALDUCK on Nov 3, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was brutal. One half? Had he punched the guy instead, Meyer probably would have suspended him for two snaps against Florida International.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Like when Miami got in the big brawl a few years ago
and all the punchers were suspended for one game against Duke.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by Addicted to Quack on Nov 2, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Would we expect anything different from Miami?
"They gained seven or eight yards a carry on their bad plays." -Pete Carroll
by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolute joke of a punishment,
They are playing VANDY, Spikes will not even be a major factor in this game! Suspend him at least 3-4 games!
2 Quaters against FREAKING VANDY, I lost my half ounce of respect I had for Oscar Meyer, whoops, Urban Meyer.
"They gained seven or eight yards a carry on their bad plays." -Pete Carroll
by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Difference between ESPN's take of this an our handling of the LGB incident
Is quite instructive. Every single ESPN host is absolutely tearing apart Florida for its weak punishment while we got credit both for the punishment and for not kicking him out of school. A net win for Oregon, a net loss for Florida.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I commented on that before I saw the outcry against this pathetic punishment...
I agree, The articles about Spikes punishment (or lack thereof), have all commended us beacuse of our immediate response to the LGB debacle
TOBY, Toby Gerhart...THE Toby Gerhart? I formally welcome your presence.
We appreciate all of your needed contributions Juju! WE LOVE YOU
by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And throughout the USC game Saturday
Kirk Herbstreit was talking about how well he felt CK handled the whole situation.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They're even talking about it and nailing Florida
During MNF tonight. Steve Young’s suggestion during Countdown was the best though. Suspend him for at least one game and then make him show up at 5 AM every Monday the rest of the season and go through the hardest workouts the coaching staff can dream up. That way he gets punished but not the team.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hehe,Oh, I've got a solution!
“Hey Brandon, Can I speak to you for a minute?”
TOBY, Toby Gerhart...THE Toby Gerhart? I formally welcome your presence.
We appreciate all of your needed contributions Juju! WE LOVE YOU
by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Check out the thread at Alligator Army
Talk about rationalizing shitty behavior
by QuackinAK on Nov 2, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets Safeguard QB Masoli
Ducks were excellent against USC. Very glad to see the center snapping the ball to QB’s beltbuckle, not over his head. That is big improvement.
Those with even as short a memory as 2007 will realize we are riding on the success and knees of an outstanding QB. I suggest that whenever the Ducks get a two TD lead that it is time for Nate Costa to come in.
by worldwidewebfoot on Nov 2, 2009 12:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
At least a 3 TD lead in the 4th
I was shocked that Masoli came out for that last series against USC. Glad he didn’t get hurt but not worth the risk.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
how much worse was brandon spikes eye gauge than legarrettes punch and mike golic agreed
by polo12354 on Nov 2, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I won’t call the Trojan empire over until I watch them take the field at the Holiday Bowl.
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by Takimoto on Nov 2, 2009 2:26 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
As much as I want a 2nd Pac-10 team to make the BCS, thinking of USC in the Holiday Bowl just brought the dopiest grin to my face.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 2, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
how much better would it be to see them in El Paso?
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by Addicted to Quack on Nov 2, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I was thinking...
How smug do think Carroll would be after being religated to BFE Texas to play in a bowl?
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by Matt Daddy on Nov 2, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Could we see a Notre Dame/USC rematch in the Sun Bowl? Very interesting
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Nov 2, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i’d watch about as much of the rematch as I watched the original…none
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by Matt Daddy on Nov 2, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping for a Sun Bowl of something like USC versus Tulsa.
By the grace of Juju, we all are day-to-day.
by JConant on Nov 2, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even better...
USC vs South Florida with South Florida winning by two touchdowns.
lol
At this point though I still expect to see USC in either the Fiesta or Orange. And even that will bring a smile to my lips as the team they will keep out of the BCS will be Boise State.
by ursula on Nov 2, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sooo much better. They’d have to lose again for it to happen though.
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by Takimoto on Nov 2, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Arizon has the potential
and Oregon wrote the blueprint.. not out of the realm of possibility
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by Matt Daddy on Nov 2, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Arizona really scares me. Strangely enough, they scare me more AFTER that beatdown on USC.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That will be a big road test
but our O line and D is something they have not seen this year… and don’t forget, while they were thoroughly beating UW, they did end up losing to them in the end… personally I am most concerned with Stanford
Kenny Wheaton #20; The Pick - 1994 v UW. Matthew Harper #20; The Pick #2 - 2007 v USC. John Boyett #20;...
by Matt Daddy on Nov 2, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Stanford scares me to death, too, don’t get me wrong. Gerhart and Luck are both very good.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Their kick return guy has tied the PAC 10 record for returns for TD in a season...already, I think.
Regardless, he’s good and the Ducks were doing lots of work on kickoffs today, at least twice as much as usual. In Chip We Trust.
by DONALDUCK on Nov 3, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to be most scared of @Arizona...
they win out until we play them and it’s one of the biggest matchups to come to Tuscon in many years. They probably have the best environment due to recent success outside of Eugene (I know husky stadium is better but there has been little to cheer for in recent years). If they go on the road and take care of Cal, they are top 15 easily. Throw in the fact that it appears to be the only game on the slate between top 25, if not top 15…can you say “GAME DAY.”
They are the most balanced of the teams left. Stanford is okay on defense. Arizona is good on both sides.
by BisonDucks on Nov 2, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was watching their game against UCLA,
Thier offense has no speed compared to oiur defense…Their defense has no speed compared to our offense.
I retain more fright about the ASU game, their defense looked pretty darn good against Cal
"They gained seven or eight yards a carry on their bad plays." -Pete Carroll
by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really, no one on our schedule should beat us...
it’s a matter of a let down. Stanford looks really slow to me. ASU looks anemic on offense…they will get no rushing attack on us. Arizona looks slower on both sides of the ball. OSU, well, their defense is worse than last year’s.
by BisonDucks on Nov 2, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I could just see them walking out of the tunnel, iPhones in hand, looking bored as they post twitter updates:
“Dont evn no who were playn’”
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“at least im gettin paid 4 dis”
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by Takimoto on Nov 2, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
rec-tastic
Kenny Wheaton #20; The Pick - 1994 v UW. Matthew Harper #20; The Pick #2 - 2007 v USC. John Boyett #20;...
by Matt Daddy on Nov 2, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I follow the WSJ's logic here
Assuming Oregon does win the Pac 10, why would the BCS bowl people NOT choose USC as an at-large? USC would still bring huge crowds to any BCS bowl as well as creating a lot of hype for the bowl in question.
The bowls are not forced to pick both TCU and Boise State if both finish in the top whatever in the BCS standings, only one, so what 2nd place team would a BCS bowl rather have than USC? It’s not going to be #2 in the Big East, ACC, or Big 12. Maybe Penn State, probably they’d take the Alabama / Florida loser. So for ten spots we presumably have:
NC: Texas vs. Florida
Rose: Oregon vs. Iowa
Orange: Georgia Tech vs. ?
Fiesta: Boise State or TCU vs. ?
Sugar: Alabama vs. ???
You’ve got to have Cincinnati in there somewhere, but that still leaves two spots, probably to Big 10 #2 and to USC. The only problem I foresee (and WSJ points out) is if Notre Dame somehow sneaks into the BCS. I’d be really surprised if ND gets into the top 8 (automatic bid), so would they really get a bid over USC, who beat them in North Bend? Would they really give Boise State a bid over USC? I’m not seeing it.
by johnnycougar on Nov 2, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good post, but I do think that if ND wins out, they’re in, no matter what USC does (provided they make it into the top 14, which shouldn’t be a problem with a 10 – 2 record). ND’s fanbase travels somewhat better, plus I’d think a BCS bowl would love to have a “resurgent” ND team over a possible unmotivated USC team.
An 11 – 1 Penn St. or 10 -2 USC? That’s a tough call, but I think Penn St. gets the nod there too, just because of the East Coast prestige.
I do think that an undefeated BSU or TCU is going to get left out. Bowls would be silly to take one of those teams over an established quality BCS school (especially BSU, which can’t sell out its home games as it is). But I do think USC is on the outside looking in unless Penn St. or ND loses again.
What about this, though – what if tOSU wins out, and takes the Big 10 auto bid. Does an 11 – 1 Iowa get left out for a 10 – 2 USC? I think they do, which is pretty crappy for Iowa. They don’t travel as well as USC, and have looked pretty lackluster in a lot of their wins. Plus their loss will have come at the end of the season, never a good thing in terms of perception (unless you’re a computer in the 2001 BCS rankings and you ignore a blowout loss to end the season. Effing Nebraska).
Anyway, I think the Pac 10 has a decent shot, but I don’t think USC controls its own destiny to get an at large berth.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if there’s some risk of USC’s fans not traveling as well as they have recently, even to a BCS bowl. Economy + letdown from lofty expectations = USC a risky selection as opposed to a TCU or BSU fan base energized by a rare BCS opportunity?
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by JConant on Nov 2, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that there might be a letdown from USC’s fanbase, but IMO, they’re still a much safer bet than a BSU fanbase that can’t sell out its own venue. Now, if BSU gets the auto bid, undefeated TCU vs. 10 – 2 USC will be pretty close to a toss up. I would imagine those fans would travel pretty well.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2009 7:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s hard to imagine any base not traveling well to a BCS game. But I gather from comments by SC fans, they’re feelings get hurt if they aren’t in the NC game.
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by JConant on Nov 2, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Fiesta would positively drool over the prospect of picking USC.
Norte Dame won’t win out. Pittsburgh and Stanford will both beat ’em.
by ursula on Nov 2, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Fiesta would love USC, definitely more than Boise, and I also have doubts about ND winning out.
by johnnycougar on Nov 3, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
But I can’t see any scenario in which Boise State and TCU are both undefeated yet Boise is ranked higher. They’re close now, but TCU is two spots higher in the computers and Boise is likely to continue dropping with their weak-ass schedule. With every opponent Oregon destroys, I think the “humans” put more mental distance between the current Oregon team and the one that lost at Boise, and so I doubt Boise will jump TCU by enough in the polls to overcome the computers.
by johnnycougar on Nov 3, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The key is "controls its own destiny"
And there I agree with you. 11-1 Penn State probably jumps USC, while 11-1 Iowa does not. This is sort of a side issue, but I don’t get why the Big 10 always gets the benefit of the doubt. Every year there are media members who play up how awesome the Big 10 is and every year the Big 10 gets creamed in the big games (or at least it seems that way). On a neutral field, how much would Vegas favor a 10-2 USC over either of those Big 10 schools? I live in New Mexico so I unfortunately get a lot of Big 10 games on regional ABC or ESPN coverage, and I’ve probably watch about five Iowa games. They just don’t impress me. Penn State likewise. I guess more than anything the BCS bowl selections are about selling tickets.
Even if ND wins out, I’m not sure how high they’ll climb. They have to be in the top 14 to be eligible for an at-large and they’re at 22 right now. They would have to jump Cal, Arizona, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Miami, Oklahoma State, Houston, and Utah. Unless they absolutely dominate every team on their schedule I’m not sure how far they’ll rise in the polls.
by johnnycougar on Nov 3, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the key:
“I guess more than anything the BCS bowl selections are about selling tickets.”
And even more than that, getting good TV ratings. There are TONS of people who will watch Penn St. or tOSU even though they’re going to get walloped. The bowl could care less about a competitive matchup as long as they get the eyeballs for the first half.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 3, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know how to get a torrent of this game?
by eedgaar on Nov 2, 2009 2:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by qrsouther on Nov 2, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Papa Quinn is at it again!
Official stream/torrent guru!
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by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No source at all, just random comments around the Interwebs. Mostly wanna stir up the masses.
But Dontae Williams is rumored to announce as a Duck tomorrow. Discuss.
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
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by Takimoto on Nov 2, 2009 4:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know who this is
Any non-subscription links that can give me a little background? Or your own brief intro?
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
4-star RB from Houston. Apparently he’s been itching to commit.
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by Takimoto on Nov 2, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The muscles on his face has muscles
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-FF"
by JShufelt on Nov 2, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks. Kid looks like he’s a beast. A 36-year-old beast. He’s the Greg Oden of high school football.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He went to the same high as Darron Thomas I believe.
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by qrsouther on Nov 2, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he does. Dontae Williams goes to the same H.S as D.T
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by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Aldine High or something like that.
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by qrsouther on Nov 2, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
2 for 2 Quinn! Aldine it is
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by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Quinn probably knows what brand of helmet he wears.
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by JConant on Nov 2, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Quinn probably knows what brand of
helmetunderoos he wears.
Fixed.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, thank you.
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by JConant on Nov 2, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny you mention it.
Judging by this picture, he wears a Revo. Which, interestingly, Darron Thomas wore last year, but has now switched to a Schutt DNA this year. Go figure.
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by qrsouther on Nov 2, 2009 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YESSS! Thomas finally switched to a sexy DNA!
Take that!
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by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was this close to mentioning you when I was writing that.
Circumventing the inevitable…
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by qrsouther on Nov 2, 2009 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
MattDaddy loves Cliff Harris
Musgrave loves Ed Dickson
And I love me some DNA!
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by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like bread.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 2, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really think that we can make it through!
I want to make it with you…
Wrong Bread?
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 3, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Homoerotic... nice!
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by qrsouther on Nov 3, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. and Mr. Jake Locker, anyone?
by Bill Musgrave on Nov 3, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha!
Just when my memory of that incident began to waiver; you so graciously remind me!
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by CaDuck on Nov 3, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I find it perfectly acceptable
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 7:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well that’s subjective.
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by Takimoto on Nov 4, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And overrated.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You may have missed the reference to the band called “Bread”
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I did, does that make it any less nice?
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by qrsouther on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know these brands of underoos.
Mine are by Fruit of the Loom.
by Bill Musgrave on Nov 2, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer the Hanes, but I respect the FotL.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Overrated?
Commence 700 message outrage laden discussion, now.
by Bill Musgrave on Nov 2, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
clap clap clap-clap-clap
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by JShufelt on Nov 3, 2009 7:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, I’m not passionate about my underwear. Mainly, they’re cheap. So I’m fine if you call them over-rated.
I will save my righteous indignation for other matters of greater import.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 3, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The main reason that Williams is not more highly touted than he is...
Is because his junior year was slowed down by injury. Simply stated: When he plays, he is a very dangerous runner (not to mention in the highlights I have seen from him; his o-line it woeful-and he still produces!). Like Rivals said; his frame can accumulate some more muscle, maybe a 5’11 210-215 pound back.
My 2 cents
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by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The triple threat of him
Barner and LMJ, so awesome.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oregon is selling victory T-shirts from Saturday at the Duck Store online
And I just bought one, they’re awesome:
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by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 5:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not much of a post-event t-shirt buyer, but that looks mighty tasty.
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by JConant on Nov 2, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Neither am I
But this is too cool.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 2, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this is stupid
you’d think that we’ve never had a big win before
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by Addicted to Quack on Nov 3, 2009 8:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know the worst thing about playing Stanford this week?
No SBNation blog site to go read about the team or what the fans think of their team… do those book worms not blog? are they still reading box scores out of newspapers? what the hell?
Kenny Wheaton #20; The Pick - 1994 v UW. Matthew Harper #20; The Pick #2 - 2007 v USC. John Boyett #20;...
by Matt Daddy on Nov 2, 2009 8:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You are assuming there are fans.
Heck, I’m a fan of Stanford, but I may be the only one.
by Bill Musgrave on Nov 2, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, who gave Ted Miller the keys to the Panic Button?
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by AcadianTraverse on Nov 2, 2009 8:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me or was that an extremely clunky article for Ted Miller's standards?
I had to re-read a few of the sentences of his in that piece, which I normally don’t have to do. Either he was preoccupied while writing it, or I’m preoccupied while reading it.
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by qrsouther on Nov 2, 2009 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think it was too bad,
But he severely underestimates our defense. Just like most other media outlets do.
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by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest I made somewhat less notice of his attention to detail, which is usually decent if not good -- I'm talking strictly his diction and sentence structures.
Just seemed a little weird to me, that’s all.
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by qrsouther on Nov 2, 2009 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Understandable...One of his first sentences is pretty goofy,
“Trying to recall a team that looked as bad as Oregon did to open a season, and then transformed into one that looked as good as anyone in the nation, wasn’t easy.”
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by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
After re-reading it I see what your saying.
A lot of one sentance paragraphs and fragmented ideas. Probably as a result of editing down a lot of information.
At any rate he raises some good points. The Ducks are now THE team in the conference. Everyone will be gunning for them. But if there was one take away from Washington State week, neither the coaches nor the players are going to rest on what happened in the last game. And you have to like that.
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by AcadianTraverse on Nov 2, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
And the silly wordplay where he tries to avoid using “punches” in an idiomatic expression just seemed forced. That was poor for Miller’s standards. Usually I really enjoy his stuff.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It actually sometimes was Woody Paige-esque.
And not in a remotely good way.
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by qrsouther on Nov 2, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think you can ever call something “Woody Paige-esque” and mean that as a compliment.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a few friends who think he's the shit -- I have to make the distinguishment.
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by qrsouther on Nov 2, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are they...Well,
Literate?
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by CaDuck on Nov 3, 2009 7:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are these friends also fans of Bill Plaschke and Jay Mariotti? If so, they may have accidentally boarded a one-way train for doucheville.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 3, 2009 9:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to say. We talk about ATH every once in a while.
Which I must admit I generally enjoy watching, despite the characters themselves being assholes. Except for J.A. Adande. I like him. He reminds me of Barack Obama.
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by qrsouther on Nov 3, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You mean he reminds you of...
A Kenyan born Socialist Nazi Liar who cannot bear a real birth certificate?
Haha, JK man :)
Adande is very decent journalist
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by CaDuck on Nov 3, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow… you were almost describing ME there for a second.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 3, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No start time for Oregon-ASU until next Sunday
So says Rob:
The Pac-10 has opted to fall back on a rare six-day window for finalizing kickoff time and television information for two games Nov. 14, including Oregon’s home game against Arizona State.
Oregon announced tonight that the Ducks and Sun Devils will play at either 4 p.m. on Versus or 7:20 p.m. on ESPN, with ESPN having first choice. Cal-Arizona will be slotted into the other window.
The conference shuffled the lineup for that day, moving an evening FSN slot to 12:30 p.m. and selecting USC-Stanford for that time. That window had been designated for either a regional ABC telecast or a national ESPN telecast, and its been set for ESPN in the 7:20 p.m. slot
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