Oregon's chances at a national title: Let's not get ahead of ourselves. No, wait. Let's.
by PaulSF on Nov 4, 2009 1:00 PM PST
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After absolutely demolishing USC in front of a record crowd at Autzen on Halloween night, the Ducks suddenly find themselves in the mix of yet another potent BCS concoction. And after a monster performance on "Fright Night" against a perennial powerhouse on a national stage, it's hard to think Oregon isn't playing some of the best football of any team in the country right now.
Of course, nothing is guaranteed with four legitimate games left on the schedule, but at the very least, the Ducks are in the driver seat en route to winning their first Pac-10 title since 2001 and making their first Rose Bowl appearance since 1995. And if they run the table (and to be fair, that's still a big "if"), they could also find themselves playing for their first national title in school history.
Indeed, a lot has to happen between now and then, but conjecture is the name of the game for bloggers like me, so let's break down the scenarios.
First of all, we have to assume the Ducks win out. If they don't, this is all a moot point.
We should also assume the loser of the SEC championship game will subsequently fall below the Ducks in the standings. It's highly likely this will happen, but when it comes to the BCS, you never know.
Oregon currently has seven teams standing in its way: Florida (.9918 average rating), Texas (.9227), Alabama (.9166), Iowa Hawkeyes (.8407), Cincinnati (.8033), TCU Horned Frogs (.8008), and Boise State (.7863). The Oregon Ducks, at No. 8, have an average rating of .7651. Either Florida or 'Bama will inevitably be out of the race, which leaves Alafloridabamalsu, Texas, Iowa, Cincy, TCU and Boise State standing in Oregon's way.
Here's the most likely scenario of how Oregon could find itself in its first ever national title game:
No. 14 Utah upsets No. 6 TCU (Nov. 14)
Remember Utah? They traveled to Eugene in mid-September claiming the longest winning streak in college football at 16 straight. The Ducks, coming off a brutal loss in Boise to start the season followed by a lackluster performance (albeit it a win) against a subpar Purdue team at home, managed to do just enough to eek out a win over the Utes.
Since the two met back on Sept. 19, both teams are a combined 10-0. Suddenly No. 14 Utah is the team that could punch Oregon's ticket to Pasadena on January 7.
A Utah win over the Horned Frogs would not only help remove a team in front of Oregon from contention, it could also be enough to boost the Ducks ahead of Boise State. The Ducks trail the Broncos by .212 points, but are ranked ahead of Boise State in all but one of the computers. A Utah win could sway just enough human voters to move the Ducks ahead, but the computers will also adjust in Oregon's favor. And without a quality team left on BSU's schedule, they'd need an Oregon loss to move back ahead.
No. 16 Ohio State rolls No. 4 Iowa at the Horseshoe (Nov. 14)
Although it's a down year in Columbus, at least by Ohio State standards, the Buckeyes find themselves in an unfamiliar role when they take on Iowa next weekend: the spoiler. The Hawkeyes won't continue to get away with what they've pulled off this season against subpar foes. They've managed to beat Northern Iowa, Arkansas State, Michigan and Michigan State by a combined eight points. They had to rally to come from behind and beat Indiana, despite throwing five interceptions. Quite frankly, Iowa has gotten lucky a few too many times, and its luck is about to run out.
The Buckeyes, on the other hand, are 7-2 and 5-1 at home (their only loss coming to USC). Sophomore quarterback Terrelle Pryor is improving. And the Buckeyes still have a top 10 defense. This might be the only near sure thing of any of these scenarios.
In other words, if I was a betting man (which I am), I'd bet the farm on Ohio State (and I will).
No. 5 Cincinnati drops its final game at No. 13 Pitt (Dec. 5)
Cincinnati has been arguably the best team in the country through nine weeks. The Bearcats have not only won every game, they've been consistently hammering teams, even on the road. Is Cincy good enough to play with the likes of Florida, Texas, or Oregon? I think so. The Bearcats would compete and maybe even pull out a win. They made Oregon State look like a sub-.500 team in Corvallis. They also dominated South Florida on the road. The fact is, Cincinnati is a very, very good team.
But so is Pitt. In his fifth year at the helm of the Panthers' program, head coach Dave Wannstedt has turned Pitt around and has them playing some of the best football in the country right now. If they hadn't blown a 31-17 lead in the second half against North Carolina State in Week 4, we might be talking about the Panthers and not the Bearcats.
Fortunately for Ducks fans, the two teams will meet on Dec. 5...in Pittsburgh. And Pitt hasn't lost at home since Oct. 25 last year. No. 22 Notre Dame probably isn't happy about that stat either (the Irish travel to Pittsburgh next weekend).
No. 2 Texas loses the Big 12 title game (Dec. 5)
The average Oregon fan is hoping and praying for an Alabama loss to LSU this weekend. As our good friend Lee Corso would say, Not so fast, my friend. If 'Bama loses to LSU, it will more than likely push the Tigers ahead of the Ducks in next week's standings. And even if it doesn't, an LSU win over Florida in the SEC title game would almost certainly give the Tigers enough of a boost to be the highest-ranked 1-loss team. Bottom line: It doesn't matter who wins this weekend, or the SEC title game. The chances are very good that there will be an SEC team playing for a national title.
Which is why we need Texas to lose. Right now, this looks like the least plausible part of any scenario. But don't forget about the Big 12 title game, especially since there's no clear-cut representative from the Big 12 North. That's not a good thing, you say? Think again. What if Nebraska rattles off five straight, including a win over No. 24 Oklahoma this weekend? It would seem the momentum game could come into play. And if any team should understand how much momentum can affect a season, or even a game, it's Oregon fans.
With SEC almost guaranteed a representative in the national title game (Florida, LSU or 'Bama), Texas is last remaining obstacle standing in Oregon's way. I'm suddenly a Texas A&M fan.
Conclusion
There are certainly other scenarios that could play out. LSU could beat 'Bama, then beat Florida, and, with only one loss, still end up behind Oregon. Or, any one of the teams in front of Oregon could lose a game they shouldn't. But it's a serious long shot for all the necessary events to happen. Here's the point: With four games to go, Oregon has a shot to play for a national title for the third time in a decade.
But, as those previous title shots showed us, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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When you write it like this, it really doesn’t sound all that far fetched….
We have some (hopefully) great football games to watch, and hopefully some more Duck wins.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 4, 2009 1:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
In all honesty,
I cannot even think about Nat’l Champ prospects right now. It seems a little too wishful to excite over. I am going to worry about making the Rose Bowl first :)
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 1:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I want to go to Pasadena
If it’s for January 1, fine, if its for January 7, so much the better.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 4, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha! Good point.
I’m going to start saving money for a ticket. Traveling two hours to Pasadena north is not troublesome :)
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Won't this line of thinking upset the Juju?
And just when we need him the most, too. On that basis, I refuse to read this post again.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 4, 2009 1:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Juju obviously does not mind entirely theoretical conversations (see win over USC and Dave’s post last week).
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 4, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In that case,
Go UCF!
Err, Baylor!
Umm, Jayhawks?
A&M?
To hell with it, we’re screwed.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 4, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think if LSU beats Alabama and a Florida rematch in the SEC championship game, they jump us. A comparable schedule, and a better looking loss + SEC bias = LSU in the ’ship.
I don’t trust Terrelle Pryor to beat Iowa though, nor do I see Texas losing.
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by Takimoto on Nov 4, 2009 1:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Texas wont lose again. (It pains me to say this!)
Their remaining schedule is too easy; that includes the B-12 Championship Game too. The North is terrible.
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they have a 90% chance of winning out. But let’s not forget, Oklahoma was thought unbeatable a couple years ago and dropped big games to knock them out of the title race. Anything can happen in college football.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 4, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm working on some sabotage over here.
Planting some rumors to ruin McCoy’s confidence, lil’ extra hot sauce on each breakfast taco to create some general team indigestion, etc.
I’ve got this covered.
Oh but venerable JuJu, I wouldn’t mind a little help.
by Bill Musgrave on Nov 4, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SEC is in.
No matter how you look at it, unless Florida and Alabama lose a game to someone other than LSU, there WILL be an SEC team in the national title game.
As for Ohio State, I agree Pryor hasn’t been great, but he’s playing better. And Iowa is playing out of their minds. They’ll lose a game. I’d bet money on it.
Texas is the real issue. I just don’t see them losing either. But again, crazier things have happened.
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by PaulSF on Nov 4, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
While I’m not holding my breath for a NC, you make it seam plausible, Paul!
But… I’m skeptical that we’ll even get to the Rose Bowl. I’ll feel better about it if we win @ Stanford, ASU, and @ Arizona.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 1:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Don't be too skeptical.
Sorry, my last post was messed up, so I’m retyping it.
All I was trying to say is we can afford to lose two as long as one of the two isn’t against Arizona. If we lose to ’Zona, we need USC to beat them (in L.A.)
But, as Chip Kelly says, “Win the day.” And “today” is Stanford.
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by PaulSF on Nov 4, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll feel better after Cal beats Arizona next weekend.
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by Takimoto on Nov 4, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That makes two of us.
Right now, I’m a Duck fan and a fan of anyone playing Arizona.
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by PaulSF on Nov 4, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll be cheering my ASS off for Cal that game.
1. I hate Mike Stoops
2. I like Cal.
3. I hate Mike Stoops
4. It gives us a nice buffer in the Pac-10.
5. I hate Mike Stoops.
Seriously… I start rooting for Arizona in games, and then the cameras show Mike Stoops, and I just can’t root for them anymore.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you hate Stoops?
Whether you do or don’t is not clear to me.
GO CAL! GO BEARS! GO CAL! GO BEARS!
I don’t think that UA has the speed to hang with Cal (both offensively and defensively). If Cal loses, I’m blaming it on Twist
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At least his brother has done something
Mike Stoops, 99% bluster, 1% talent.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 4, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It will be time for a "Stoops Hate Fest" prior to the AZ game..
Tako? Start working on it…there’s plenty of material out there.
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by M. Fletcher on Nov 4, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure he's the best choice for the CaDuck icon
but it’s worth talking about
by Bill Musgrave on Nov 4, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I am crazy but I want Arizona to be ranked when we play them
it will just add to our resume, and if Oregon State doesn’t lose til the last game of the season there is a good chance that we would have beat 5 ranked teams and only lost to 1 top ten team. I think this would give us a better chance with the computers as well as the human polls. am I wrong?
by RipCityRoyCity on Nov 5, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I put our chances of making the national championship game at slim to none, so I’d like to play Arizona with a one game cushion in the Pac-10 standings.
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by Takimoto on Nov 5, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
...if we win those 3
we’re in. no ifs ands or buts.
Q: How many OSU freshmen does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None, it's a sophomore course.
by axemen23 on Nov 4, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
History is on our side
We always seem to have the chips fall in to place when we have a shot. So I’m predicting we’ll get everything we need and still end up in the Rose Bowl on Jan 1st.
by jessenumber1 on Nov 4, 2009 1:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Except
for that whole 2007 Dennis Dixon knee blowout thing.
And the 2001 Big 12 runners-up punking us out of the NCG.
Other than that, though, booking my plane tickets!
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 4, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True, but...
Well obviously this scenario is contingent on us winning out. Just saying that we’ve gotten help when we’ve needed it. I think three-letter acronyms are the bane of Oregon’s existence.
by jessenumber1 on Nov 4, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
TCU is not a real problem
We’ll jump them if it comes to that. There is no way the BCS will give a NC shot to any team from a non-Big 6 league. Simply too much $ at stake.
The easiest path is though;
Iowa drops any game (which knowing Iowa is possible)
Cincy drops one (which history suggests they will in the BIg Least)
Texas drops one.
Since barring something strange like both Alabama AND Florida losing this week, one of the those two will be in the title game.
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by skywaker9 on Nov 4, 2009 1:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nice post Paul
It really DOESN’T seem all that far-fetched. The other thing on our side is that there are three SEC contenders for the national title game, but only one will get voted in. There’s no way they vote in an all-SEC NC game. That’s why I think it behooves us to root for LSU this weekend. That keeps open the possibility of three one-loss SEC teams, which is as good as we can hope for.
I would guess that Iowa and Cinci both lose one. Texas…not so much.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 1:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I've also been obssessing
about this.
I had your list, but got stopped by the Texas problem.
There is no way Texas is going to lose. I just don’t see it happening.
I was praying for OK. ST. to do it. That was really the last remaining outside shot.
Texas A&M? Lost to Arkansas, Kansas State and Oklahoma State. Yes, they have a bizzarre win over the Red Raiders. I don’t know if lightning can strike twice. It will need to.
The Big 12 championship game? Seriously? Doesn’t matter who’s in it, does it?
Unless McCoy goes down with injury or some other random freakish thing happens, or A&M steals Iowa’s voodoo guru, whoever he is, I can’t get myself to see how Texas might lose.
by gamedaytribe on Nov 4, 2009 2:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, If you ask Texas fans,
A&M has a pesky knack for dropping Texas.
But I share your view, that will not happen.
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
*plugs ears* LA LA LA LA LA LA!!!
Four games left to play…FOCUS AND PANIC!
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
by M. Fletcher on Nov 4, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Addicted To Quack: FOCUS AND PANIC!
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
No phrase better describes this blog!
I love it!
TOBY, Toby Gerhart...THE Toby Gerhart? I formally welcome your presence.
We appreciate all of your needed contributions Juju! WE LOVE YOU
by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Addicted To Quack: FOCUS AND PANIC! AND BEERS (yummy stuff too, nothing in a silver can)
By the grace of Juju, we all are day-to-day.
by JConant on Nov 4, 2009 4:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
AND TINY SPANDEX SHORTS
"Baton Rouge happens to be the worst place in the world for a visiting team. It's like being inside a drum."~Bear Bryant
"Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die."~The Michigan Daily
by AllSaintsDay on Nov 4, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't get enough
of that wonderful Duff.
The huge Heineken cans aren’t terrible, mind you. They’re kind of silver.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 4, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No offense...
But the stuff in the silver cans is pretty great when you plan on drinking about 30 of them over the course of 4 hours.
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by PaulSF on Nov 4, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do people really “plan” on that? Or does it just happen once you get to about 12 and can’t stop the momentum?
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh these sorts of things are defintely on my to do list
1. Drink 30 beers
2. Read ATQ
3. Drink for each JuJu reference
4. Mow lawn
5. Sew toes back on.
by Bill Musgrave on Nov 4, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes yes, sometimes no, indeed.
What do we want - PANIC! When do we want it - NOW!
by Bill Musgrave on Nov 4, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately...
I do plan for such occasions. My brother and I refer to it as “pants-shitting drunk.”
But seriously, 30 beers is a lot. I should probably slow down.
Addicted To Quack. If you’re not into the whole brevity thing.
by PaulSF on Nov 4, 2009 7:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Only because it’s cheaper… or Caldera Amber Ale (In a silver can, but it’s not crappy)
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I may be going out on a limb here,
But we all hope to beat Stanford!
Go Ducks!
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We're gonna score 50 unless the defense and/or special teams scores and then its 60
Will THAT be enuf to win?
by DONALDUCK on Nov 4, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The realistic scenario
is a 12-1 finish. A 12-game win streak carried into next season with nearly every important piece of the puzzle back on both O and D? Paulson stepping into Dickson’s shoes and our young secondary taking over for the next three years?
Can you say preseason top-5?
Can you say preseason #1?
Did I just say that was realistic?
Holy crap, our football team is really good!
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 4, 2009 2:28 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
I think this is most realistic and I like it!!!!
Kenny Wheaton #20; The Pick - 1994 v UW. Matthew Harper #20; The Pick #2 - 2007 v USC. John Boyett #20;...
by Matt Daddy on Nov 4, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd as well.
Now we’re really getting ahead of ourselves…
I like it!
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by PaulSF on Nov 4, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Preseason #1?
Nah, maybe #2, we would still be behind U$C!
I love beating OSU....but nothing is better than DESTROYING the fuskies.
by UOfootball on Nov 4, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is totally realistic, and something that is in our control. If we win out, we’ll be top 3 preseason at worst. Big if, however.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 4, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a very high pedestal. I prefer the way we normally try it out. The extra web page hits scare me. They make me think I shouldn’t use words like fuck, shit, and sanchez.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t even imagine the pressure at starting as preseason #1.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 4, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
12 sounds nice. Maybe even sneak into the top ten, like an 8. But starting number one, nightmares of Georgia.
The Ducks' 27-point margin was one more than the margins of all seven of USC's losses since 2004 combined.
by trumpetduck on Nov 4, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No way the pollsters rank us outside the top ten with a 12-game win streak (which, by the way, would probably mean finishing #2 in this year’s polls).
I mean, college football pollsters are the most logical, correct, upstanding, objective, biasless group of people in all of sports.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 4, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
CFB pollsters are clearly all-knowing and unbiased.
Win out, we are top ten. As long as we don’t end up #1 (I don’t think we could regardless), I am happy with the result.
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope never in the same context though.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, on September 3rd we weren’t.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 4, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The day that BSU is in the preseason top 3 will be the day the universe implodes.
TOBY, Toby Gerhart...THE Toby Gerhart? I formally welcome your presence.
We appreciate all of your needed contributions Juju! WE LOVE YOU
by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And also...
No BSU on the sched. :)
"I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass."
by Belexes on Nov 4, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No Glam Shots Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would just assume be rated high and Uncle Phil pay to NOT have us on the cover of a certain Sports Magazine which shall not be named.
by fowlplay on Nov 4, 2009 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Almighty Juju, we beseech you...
Please deliver unto Mack Brown a cosmic helping of Karma and let his superior football team suffer an ugly loss to an inferior opponent. Let him then campaign his way into the Rose Bowl for the Jan 1 game.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
by M. Fletcher on Nov 4, 2009 2:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
At what point in the season...
Does CaDuck have a picture of a player not in the game against Oregon? Tony Pike vs Pitt? Stanzi vs. tOSU? Colt in the Big 12 CG? Can we get to that point in season where help from others is just as important as winning our game?
The Ducks' 27-point margin was one more than the margins of all seven of USC's losses since 2004 combined.
by trumpetduck on Nov 4, 2009 2:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Never.
Because without Juju’s help, we won’t even beat the barkrats in our own house… Can we even hope to contain the Rodger’s brothers? I’m panicking right now as I type this.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
by M. Fletcher on Nov 4, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if only we had a fast defense that plays as a unit and has lots of practice against an offense with a lot of misdirection and shifty backs…
The Ducks' 27-point margin was one more than the margins of all seven of USC's losses since 2004 combined.
by trumpetduck on Nov 4, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
An ATQ rule of thumb,
PANIC!!!!!=Good
TOBY, Toby Gerhart...THE Toby Gerhart? I formally welcome your presence.
We appreciate all of your needed contributions Juju! WE LOVE YOU
by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Please,
As the humble servant of Juju, I speak for Juju when I say not to get too greedy and ask too much from our highness. Lets stick to UO related activities :)
After all, once I begin attempting to alter the outcome of other games; that will be too much power for a person like myself not to abuse. The slippery slope would eventually lead to the winning bidder choosing my pic. Who knows, perhaps I would attempt to transfer the mythical power of Juju to other things too; presidential races etc…Juju would turn me into a virtual Smeagol, addicted to the pure unfettered power!
TOBY, Toby Gerhart...THE Toby Gerhart? I formally welcome your presence.
We appreciate all of your needed contributions Juju! WE LOVE YOU
by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
When you start referring to your profile pic as "my preciousssss!"
…we’ll put together an intervention.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
by M. Fletcher on Nov 4, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think a more appropriate analogy would be you as Gandalf, when Frodo asked him to take the ring. But like Gandalf, you know that would be too great a pwoer for you to wield, and you are content to bring justice to the college football world through the power Juju has already bestowed upon you.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Flagged for the first Lord of the Rings reference that I can ever remember on ATQ.
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by jtlight on Nov 4, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
YOU’RE NOT THE LORD OF THE RINGS!
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who died and declared you Lord of the Rings?
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
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by Takimoto on Nov 4, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Hahaha!
Hilarious work Shu!
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Huge… head…
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Naw, I made mention to Huskies being hatched from the mud like Orcs like two weeks ago. That flag is MINE!
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by Takimoto on Nov 4, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Orcs are not Lord of the Ring specific. Don’t try and steal Gorby’s flag!!
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by jtlight on Nov 4, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but Tolkien invented the Orc.
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by Takimoto on Nov 4, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All of these threads are flagged…for obvious reasons
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by dvieira on Nov 4, 2009 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, they were also in the Silmarillion and the Hobbit
but he wrote them all, one book to bind them :)
by gamedaytribe on Nov 4, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because it’s Mine
The Doggone flag Is Mine
Don’t Waste Your Time
Because The Doggone flag Is Mine
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Orcs were actually born as a race when Morgoth took elves that he had captured and twisted them to his own evil purpose. Cmon man, would it hurt you to break out a copy of the Silmarillion once in awhile? Jeez.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For future reference,
If I ever need to know something LOTR/Orc related…I know who I am asking!
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gorby, I concede. That comment just outnerded my entire existence. Until we start talking about Star Wars.
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by Takimoto on Nov 4, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just so you’re aware, I sewed my own costume for the movie premier, and I have both a map of Middle Earth and a replica of the sword Anduril hanging on my wall at home…
Also, my wife and I went to New Zealand on our honeymoon, mainly so I could visit sites where they filmed the movies.
Yes, I proudly accept the title of “ATQ Ultra Nerd.”
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to give it to you now. But this is the internet….
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by jtlight on Nov 4, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So true. Sorry for being presumptuous. There are others that could probably take me in a nerd-off.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did someone ask for a nerd-off?
I have a spreadsheet showing just how nerdy I can be. I also have a powerpoint presentation with graphs describing the linear grwoth rates of nerds on AtQ
Kenny Wheaton #20; The Pick - 1994 v UW. Matthew Harper #20; The Pick #2 - 2007 v USC. John Boyett #20;...
by Matt Daddy on Nov 5, 2009 8:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think I could compete in a nerd-off anymore. I have libraries of Exalted, D&D, WoD, and 7th Sea books, and tons of LotR/Star Wars/Star Trek/Doctor Who knowledge that’s no longer getting used, because this whole “getting a doctorate in math” thing is so time consuming.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 5, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are scaring me…
I thought I was a nerd… But I clearly have a lot to not learn.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 5, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest, it’s been awhile for me. I’ve read LOTR probably 12 or 13 times, but it’s been 4 years or so since the last time. And even longer than that for Unfinished Tales and the Silmarillion.
On the upside, I’m reading The Hobbit to my kids for the first time, so that’s fun. And I play D&D every week (don’t mess with me or Zorab the Invoker will call down Berronar’s wrath).
By the way, doctorates in math? OV-er-RA-ted!
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 5, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Read the Hobbit when I was 4. No big deal.
It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."
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by Takimoto on Nov 5, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Stick with it, dude, stick with it
The more math PhDs there are on this planet (and physics, chemistry, … heck any science) the better.
It’s a fantastic thing. You lived your life right, regardless of whatever else you accomplish (even if nothing). Seriously. There are few things in life that person can be prouder of.
I bow to all the PhD’s, but especially the physics and math PhD’s (gamedaytribe falls prostrate).
by gamedaytribe on Nov 5, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You must now change your signiture,
“Proudly the ultra-nerd of ATQ”
Meh, or something along those lines.
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I DECLARE YOU THE LORD OF THE RINGS!
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, but can you read elvish and the common script?...
by gamedaytribe on Nov 4, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Some, actually. My wedding ring is engraved in Tengwar, and has a message in Quenya.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OK, now I hafta getta sword, dang...
grumble grumble grumble, how can I get outnerded on the Tolkien front??
by gamedaytribe on Nov 5, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“Cmon man, would it hurt you to break out a copy of the Silmarillion once in awhile?”
Well, having read The Silmarillion—-yeah, parts of it do hurt. The poetry, mainly.
Life is a sport: Watch other people play it.
by Al Orange on Nov 4, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Naw, the Lay of Beren and Luthien is way under-rated. But yeah, that book is pretty heavy. Just get me to the tale of Turin Turambar and I’m good.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 4:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, Tako. That’s…not…mud.
By the grace of Juju, we all are day-to-day.
by JConant on Nov 4, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Q: How many OSU freshmen does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None, it's a sophomore course.
by axemen23 on Nov 4, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Flagged?!? This is an outrage! May the hordes of Minas Morgul take you!
No, no, it’s alright. All that is gold does not glitter and not all those who wander are lost.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If I were you, I would consider that flag to be an honor
First LOTR reference on ATQ? That is something to be proud of
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Only if the flag has a white hand on it.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 4, 2009 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That was a brilliant analogy!
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“We serve Chip Kelly—-he who gives us man’s flesh to eat!”
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by Al Orange on Nov 4, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The correct answer is
Nov. 26th.
The Ducks do NOT play that week.
Guess who plays on Nov. 26th?
Texas AT. Texas A&M.
CaDuck, get your Colt McCoy pic ready…
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
by 071903 on Nov 4, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm.
You should include LSU, but that will be settled by this weeks game vs. Alabama. Although, Bama could still make it despite an LSU loss.
Also, I don’t see where you listed that Boise needs to lose as well. One would think that the team that defeated you (that was Oregon, right?) should stay ahead of you. Unless, you also agree that USC should jump over you in few weeks because you totally dominated them.
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by Loque on Nov 4, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It’s going along with the logic that BCS would likely take two BCS conference teams over a WAC team. There are larger fan bases, better ratings, more money.
In addition, I think Boise would need to be 1st in the Harris Poll and the Coaches Poll to offset the computers to even get ranked #2.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
1. The difference between our schedule and USC’s schedule is nowhere near the difference between our schedule and Boise State’s schedule. In fact, our schedule and USC’s schedule is about even.
2. Our domination of USC and Boise State’s domination of us aren’t comparable. BSU won by 11, and looked good not great while doing it. Two missed field goals, three turnovers, and having the game still in doubt in the fourth quarter does not equal hanging 600 yards on the 5th ranked defense in the country.
3.
One would think that the team that defeated you (that was Oregon, right?) should stay ahead of you.
Just because Boise State should stay ahead of Oregon (which I wouldn’t question for a second if it happened that way), doesn’t mean they will. And they probably won’t. This post is subjective, and is assuming that if both Boise State and Oregon win out, a fairly even split among voters combined with Oregon’s higher ranking in the computers will push the Ducks over the Broncos.
4.
you also agree that USC should jump over you in few weeks because you totally dominated them.
It’s been eight weeks since BSU beat Oregon, and BSU is still ranked higher. There aren’t that many weeks left in the season. Quit complaining to us, who are only being realistic, about the fact that the system is fucked up.
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by Takimoto on Nov 4, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The polls
The only place Oregon can beat Boise State
by Nick Kroes on Nov 4, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In the long run,
The only place that it really matters to beat Boise
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
Can’t argue with that these days
by Nick Kroes on Nov 4, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Takimoto is right on with all his points. But it’s the BCS. Oregon will pass BSU in the BCS eventually as BSU continues to play their schedule. They could even end up #2 in the country in the polls and still get passed because the computers will always hate them.
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by jtlight on Nov 4, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, if this scenario happens, it will be Juju making up to us for 2001.
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by jtlight on Nov 4, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen to that!
Effing Nebraska.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you read the Utah/TCU section again...
It clearly states that Oregon will bypass BSU after Utah wins, because we beat Utah, and they would move into the top 12 of the standings, adding even more to Oregon’s already stacked SOS.
Listen, I’m actually not happy about what’s inevitably going to happen to Boise State. I think it’s wrong. And I respect the job former Duck Justin Wilcox did in shutting the Ducks down to the point of season-ending (even career-ending) frustration. But the truth is, the Broncos need to fix this themselves by scheduling a tough foe for late in the year. Then, when you’ve run the table, you can enter Week 13 with a game against a ranked Pac-10 team and get the boost you need.
At the end of the day, it’s going to get really ugly in a couple weeks if this scenario plays out.
But it won’t. Here’s hoping you get a match-up against USC in the Fiesta Bowl, and the Trojans even the score for us. ;-)
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by PaulSF on Nov 4, 2009 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember another team with high hopes at about this point of the season last year...
Shit, who was that?
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by The VD Special on Nov 4, 2009 3:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
OOOO! I KNOW! I KNOW! PICK ME PICK ME!
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by Takimoto on Nov 4, 2009 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mugatu?
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tangent...
Is it just me, or is John Boyett not ridiculously good looking?
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
by M. Fletcher on Nov 4, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s so hot right now, that Boyett.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He looks like an excpetionally hot stud...
When he is tackling Allen Bradford for a loss. So Hot.
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by CaDuck on Nov 4, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Texas?
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 4, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't remember either
I didn’t know there was any team with a three game lead on USC at any time last year… who was it?
by TimG on Nov 4, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
partypooper
ok, no, wait – FOCUS!!! PANIC!!!!!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 4, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Riley State?
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by qrsouther on Nov 4, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jumping teams
I think the Ducks can possibly (and definitely should) jump Boise State, and maybe also TCU and Cinncinati, if all win out, based on our stronger schedule. (But then I think Oregon should be ranked 4th or 5th now too, so who knows.)
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by pualo on Nov 4, 2009 4:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jumping boise st.
I’m going to be rooting for Arizona these next 2 weeks until we play them. I’m confident that our team will beat them, even on the road. I want Arizona to have the highest ranking possible before we go to their house and stomp them. As far as the numbers go we have one of the hardest, if not the hardest schedule in the nation when looking at the rankings of our opponents. I don’t understand how teams like Texas, Florida and a ton of others can be ranked so high when playing shitty teams. Now i understand that they are “undefeated” but i dont think that Washington St. would lose playing some of the schedules out there. Hopefully the voters will come to their senses by the end of the season and we can get into the NC.
by ConnerT20 on Nov 4, 2009 6:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If we get in the NC game,
there might be riots in the streets of Boise. The guys over at OBNUG are besides themselves because they see the inevitability of Oregon leapfrogging them. The funny thing is that we all have more respect for them than the rest of the country.
In a way, I do feel sorry for the team. No one will schedule with them. They are even having difficulty scheduling away games. However, can you really overlook the fact that there is nobody on your schedule worth a hill of beans. Sure, they are BCS worthy in opinion but no one can say for sure. The debacle in boise hurt them greatly.
I think they get more credit if we put 300 yards on the them and had a semblance of an offense. The fact that we got no first downs will always be attributed to our ineptitude and not their dominance. Can’t win if you’re BSU.
Next year they have VA Tech and Oregon State. They are going to have to schedule like that from here going forward.
by BisonDucks on Nov 4, 2009 9:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
I don’t think jumping Boise is necessarily right. It’s just the way it is. Personally, I hope it happens, because I’m a Duck fan. But if we aren’t playing for a National Title, I’d almost rather meet the Broncos in a bowl and settle it on the field. I mean, being 1-2 against them would be a lot better than 0-2. ;-)
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by PaulSF on Nov 4, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know, I think there are still plenty of people who think Boise showed they were a great team by beating us. Pat Forde at ESPN, for example, has said something to that effect a few times. And John Hunt did that informal poll of AP voters, and over half of them said they wouldn’t vote Oregon ahead of Boise as long as they both kept winning.
I agree with your larger point, but as for this year, there are still plenty of people who felt that it wasn’t just Oregon’s ineptitude in that first game – it was also Boise playing well.
Still, it’s inevitable, at least in the BCS rankings, Oregon’s going to pass them.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 4, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love how it is seen as boise being dominant and when we abuse USC people take it as sc having an off day or a rebuilding year. Looking at how we played then to where we are at now, we’re a completely different team. I believe Texas just jumped bama mainly due to all of the analysts and whatnot talking about how much they’ve improved from a month ago…..doesn’t make sense…
by ConnerT20 on Nov 5, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is a little hometown “no respect” card playing here. I have seen a lot of national media (certainly a majority) who praise Oregon for their dominance of USC. Yes, there are a few who give mention to the fact that USC probably just isn’t as good this year, but hey, that’s just truth. There are far more who are giving Oregon a ton of credit.
I don’t really think there’s much more we can expect. As much as certain people might disagree with it, there’s a legitimate argument to be made that Oregon should be ranked behind Boise St as long as they both keep winning. And as long as that’s true, there’s nowhere else Oregon can really go. All the stuff at the top is just teams sliding around based on perception, since none of them have played each other.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 5, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the breakdown man
Gotta keep hope alive.
by Bicycle Rider on Nov 4, 2009 11:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
But wait anything can happen, Right?
Lets see:
Florida – Time for all those SEC teams to show how “Strong” & “Deep” the SEC really is, don’t care which bottom dwelling SEC team does it but want one of them to knock of Florida.
Texas – I like the Nov 26th game for some karma equalization and them losing.
Alabama – Same story here, time for all those SEC teams to show how “Strong” & “Deep” the SEC really is, don’t care which bottom dwelling SEC team does it but want one of them to knock of Alabama.
Iowa – Hmm, how much longer before they fall, lets see one neighbor is from Iowa and the other from Ohio, gotta go with the buckeyes.
Cinnci – This might be a fun team to play in the NC game, you know show the Beavers how to beat them. Or they could just go down against Pitt.
TCU – Gotta pick Utah to beat them.
Boise – Schedule 4 real non-conf. games each and every year to gain respect, give up on your demand to play only home and home. Hell OSU is willing to take payday games to get decent opponents and they are in a far tough Pac10.
Oregon – Growing up during the dark duck ages I remember Oregon having to earn respect, somewhere I even have a T-Shirt from back when they used to entice people to the games with T-Shirt Days and Hat days. One shirt during the 80’s referenced respect, with Oregon going to Nebraska 2 years and to Ohio for 2 years. Seeing that Oregon had to build a solid resume, I feel no guilt if we jump Boise.
by fowlplay on Nov 4, 2009 11:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Schedule 4 real non-conf. games each and every year to gain respect, give up on your demand to play only home and home. Hell OSU is willing to take payday games to get decent opponents and they are in a far tough Pac10.
We do need to give Boise credit where credit is due here. They’ve extended offers to go visit top-tier stadiums in 2011 with no agreement for a return trip to Boise Stadium. They’ve found no takers.
To paraphrase Jon Stewart: "The amount by which we beat USC would have crushed USC."
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 5, 2009 12:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Only heard of the return game demands
I worked with a girl who was from Boise, and had a brother or some relative in the Athletic Dept. She kept whining how unfair it was for teams not to come to Boise, and how proud she was for them holding steady in requiring the Home and Home deals.
I don’t know how much to believe her, just what I had heard through a diff. channel.
by fowlplay on Nov 5, 2009 12:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
I was referencing these two quotes, which can currently be seen toward the bottom of the Twitter Feed on the ESPN NCAAF home page:
Boise thru ESPN reached out to 10 elite programs offering to host BSU in 2011. No one accepted. WAC Commish just told me he’s not surprised.
Boise wasn’t even askin 4 a home-and-home, just 1 road game. Said WAC’s Karl Benson “It’s one of the consequences of Boise State’s success.”
These were both allegedly from @BFeldmanESPN, but interestingly enough, when I go to his actual Twitter account I can’t find hide nor hair of those two posts. So I’m not quite sure what to think. A cursory look around the ole’ interwebs suggests that Boise’s dance card may already be full for 2011. So I really don’t know; maybe I was wrong.
To paraphrase Jon Stewart: "The amount by which we beat USC would have crushed USC."
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 5, 2009 1:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya know, if I actually read the thing I linked, I’d have realized that the Broncs can schedule five nonconference games in 2011. My bad.
To paraphrase Jon Stewart: "The amount by which we beat USC would have crushed USC."
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 5, 2009 1:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Scheduling BSU is a mistake
at least in the BCS system. Same for that matter, any team even close to good. Oregon learned that mistake. That’s why Texas, Florida, etc. all schedule patsies.
by vaughtdj on Nov 5, 2009 5:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
We’re learning this year why no one will play BSU, they just don’t lose because the rest of their schedule sucks, so it creates a ceiling for your team. If Oregon had scheduled a team like Virginia Tech and lost, they would right now be about 4th or 5th in the country. Heck, we could have lost to almost any other team in the first game, and we’d be a few spots higher.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Nov 5, 2009 5:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice
This post is getting a lot of rep from national college sites like EDSBS and Moseley linked to it. Great article.
by SeattleDucks on Nov 5, 2009 12:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
CRAP!
And with that Sanchez picture above…
How embarrassing! Not really… because I declare them Sanchez.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-U-N-S-U-R-E-O-F-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
by JShufelt on Nov 5, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Rose Bowl works for me
I’m tired of being reminded of 1917. That’s one monkey we need to flick into the songgirl’s locker room. But not Iowa, please; it’s a lose lose. Let it be Penn State (vengeance) or Ohio State (see Penn State).
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
by Old Ducker on Nov 5, 2009 4:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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