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OK. This just seems ridiculous to me. I have been getting so sick and tired of hearing about Boise State and the BCS that I want to vomit. Where do I even begin. ...
The system is obviously flawed. When you have to hire a public relations firm to help get your team into the media spotlight to garner votes and ranking, your team obviously doesn't have the credentials to do it themselves. Boise beat us. I get it. They beat us good. But. Who else have they beaten. Have they won any tough (by BCS league standards) road games? I mean if all it takes is one quality win, why doesn't oregon just drop out of the pac-10, schedule a team like cal or oregon state every year then fill the rest of our schedule with bowling green, wsu, grambling state, san jose state, etc (no offense)? What I'm getting at is that this system is frustrating. It rewards weak schedules and voter bias. If it really is about your resume at the end of the season, then make it about the resume. Because at the current pace there are going to be a few 2 loss teams that have better winS(emphasis on plurality) than Boise.

Sorry about the rant, but I finally hit my tipping point. When will the BSC (and yes I meant BSC and not BCS) system end.
Feel free to comment on Boise's chances, and thoughts on the system as a whole.

And always GO DUCKS

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So much money on the line.

It leads to this kind of garbage. What person with any degree of influence over BCS decisions isn’t well versed in the Boise State story and circumstances? Still, they feel like they need to invest in a “campaign”.

It’s time for tradition to give way to credibility. Yes, I mean playoffs.

And don’t be sorry. This is the place to rant.

By the grace of Juju, we all are day-to-day.

by JConant on Nov 5, 2009 11:04 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

They're preaching to the choir.

It’s not likely they’ll be able to influence the voters in the two relevant polls — anyone who thinks the team hasn’t been sufficiently challenged since week 1 isn’t going to be swayed by press releases.

And I guarantee this effort will have exactly zero impact on the computers.

This is all about BSU fans milking the victim’s role for all it’s worth. I have no problem with BSU getting into a BCS bowl, but at some point you have to show on the field that you’re worthy, and one game against a decent team isn’t sufficient, especially when you only win that game at home by 11 points.

Boise’s problem is the timing. If they’d come into the Oregon game at, say, 8-0, and beat a highly ranked team, they’d have momentum on their side, and maybe be higher ranked than they are now. When you shoot your wad early, it takes a great effort to recover in time for anyone to notice, especially without stimulation. The rest of their schedule isn’t exactly stimulating.. and they have to resort to a commitment to destroy every other team on their schedule.. which doesn’t work, because the human voters understand BSU is playing sh*t teams all year after game 1, and the computers ignore margin of victory.

More to the point — there’s a good shot that even if they wind up unbeaten, they won’t even make a BCS game; their competition could be a 1-loss Penn St, either FL or Bama or LSU, TCU, or even one of several 2-loss teams, especially Notre Dame. There just aren’t enough open slots for everyone to get in. If TCU wins out, Boise is probably screwed regarding a BCS game.. but a PR firm will make a bunch of money, and the wailing from Boise will be heard across the land.

Having said all that, I think they do have a case. The “only one non-BCS team gets an automatic bid, and only if they manage to jump through all those hoops” rule is elitist crap. There’s no real football reason two non-BCS teams from different conferences who finish in the top 12 shouldn’t get a BCS game.

Hell, let them play each other in the Fiesta Bowl when that happens. I’d much rather see that than sit through Notre Dame getting pounded.

by benzduck on Nov 5, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How did I know that was coming (Not picking on you, grimc. Someone was going to bring that up)?

Totally different. Oregon was looking for overall exposure for the program. Joey was the centerpiece, yes. Someone had to be and his potential for Heisman consideration was an easy go-to theme. But that was about promotion of Oregon Football in a more broad sense. Same goes for billboards in Los Angeles.

This campaign is far more focused on getting presumably undefeated Boise State in a BCS game ahead of their most likely competition, a one-loss Penn State, LSU or Alabama, an undefeated TCU, or maybe even Utah, should the Utes win out with only a road loss to Oregon and a much tougher SOS. This is lobbying for a cash grab, pure and simple.

I’m not really complaining about the WAC hiring a PR firm, though my prior comment doesn’t represent that well. The system puts that conference in a position where they feel the need to lobby.

By the grace of Juju, we all are day-to-day.

by JConant on Nov 5, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But at a basic level, promotion is promotion. BSU could just as easily state that getting in the BCS is as much about program promotion as getting your QB the Heisman. And while the payout is undoubtedly a part of it, can anyone really doubt this is about BSU wanting to get the respect/attention they think they deserve?

But yeah, the BCS is a joke. At the same time, I don’t know if a playoff system is going to solve much of anything. Even then people are going to have the same sort of complaints. Frankly, it seems to me all this trouble started when USA Today started their ridiculous “Coaches’” Poll. I’d be all for letting the AP choose #1 and #2 based on their performances at bowl games, and having a championship game.

by grimc on Nov 5, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Coaches Poll is a joke

Chip said it best when he said he doesn’t have time to watch other teams and then vote on their rank. To think that 1/3 of the formula is based on that is insane really. I think it would be great to see the Pac-10 and Big-10 just drop out of the BCS and take back the rose bowl. I know its unrealistic, but if it happened it would sure throw a monkey wrench into the whole system. Haha. OR I’d love to see a program decline an invitation to a BCS bowl game just to boycott this nonsense. But also, never going to happen. As JConant said it really is all about money, and the whole system isn’t set up to benefit the fans…

by oregonsportsaddict on Nov 5, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If I had a vote in these matters,

And was continually bombarded against my will with BSU propoganda; I would be annoyed! “More BSU propoganda? I mean my GAWD! Hmmm, lets see…Oregon jumps BSU, and so do another 100 teams!”

TOBY, Toby Gerhart...THE Toby Gerhart? I formally welcome your presence.

We appreciate all of your needed contributions Juju! WE LOVE YOU

by CaDuck on Nov 5, 2009 5:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs


ht: Deadspin

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by jtlight on Nov 6, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That got a smile out of me when it came across my rss reader this morning.

by ntrebon on Nov 6, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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