Quack Fix: Men's basketball drops another, football gears up for Rose Bowl, recruiting nears the stretch run
by jtlight on Dec 14, 2009 7:09 AM PST
in Morning Quack Fix
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Quite a bit of quack from over the weekend, so let's get right to it.
- The men's basketball team dropped their third straight to the St. Mary's Gaels on Saturday, 81-76. In the end, the Gael's made plays when it mattered, and the Ducks just didn't. Oregon held a five point lead in the second half, but couldn't pull out the victory. St. Mary's is a good team, but should a Pac-10 really lose to them three years in a row?
- Unfortunately, it's not just the Ducks that are terrible, it's the entire Pac-10. SBNation's college basketball blog, Searching for Billy Edelin, asks if the Pac-10 is a one-bid league after UCLA and Washington fell on their faces over the weekend.
- However, there is some good basketball being played in Eugene. The Oregon women have been excellent this year and sit at 8-1, and set out on their first big test of the season on Wednesday at Georgia Tech.
- Moving to football, the Ducks had a competition day yesterday, which the defense won due to an offensive penalty. The players seemed to really get into it after some time off. Some young guys also got some looks during the practice, as Coach Kelly wanted to see them compete. Just one more benefit of the extra 15 practices bowls provide.
- The Register Guard will be profiling a Duck every day until the Rose Bowl. Over the weekend Carson York and Blake Ferras were profiled. Today's Duck is Casey Matthews, who was also discussed in qsouther's weekend fanpost.
- While Rose Bowl practice is big, the coaching staff is throwing recruiting into high gear, and most of the coaches flew all over the country last week visiting the Ducks top targets this year. Oregon has made significant strides in national recruiting, and that is seen most is simple name recognition, which has grown by leaps and bounds over the years.
- TheState.com, has a profile on Marcus Lattimore, one of the most sought after recruits of 2010, and who will be visiting Oregon on January 22nd. Lattimore has the physical tools to succeed, but he's also been an inspiration to his community off the field, and has not let the publicity or hype go to his head. In that way, he reminds me of Jonathan Stewart. Good luck to Marcus in his final decision.
- Lastly, KVAL is counting down the top 10 Ducks of the 2000s, and one of my favorite Ducks, Keenan Howry, comes in at #8.
As always, leave your links and comments below. After the jump, a video of competition day.
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The SEC was almost a one-bid league last year
I think we’ll get two, which sucks a lot but this is a year we might see a record number of mid-majors in the field. There are no really dominant teams so far (sorry Kansas, haven’t played anyone yet) especially in the major conferences.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Did anyone watch the Bowl Mania show last night?
It was hilarious when they were talking about the Rose Bowl and Ed Cunnigham (who?) and Robert Smith (who I actually kind of like) were taking Ohio St. confidently over Oregon. Then they asked Jesse Palmer what he thought and he basically called them crazy and reminded them that the last time a Big-10 team won the Rose Bowl was in 2000 when Ron Dayne…er…I mean Wisconsin beat Stanford. Seriously. Do these ESPN guys not realize how bad the Big-10 is?
I realize that previous Big-10 teams’ performance tell us nothing about how Ohio St. will do in the game, but I think it’s a telling gauge at how consistently outmatched the Big-10 is when they face the speed of the Pac-10. The best part of the show last night was when they were talking about how Ohio St. defense would take care of the option and how their run game would be more than enough to win. I think what’s so great about this Oregon team this year is that when people look at the games on paper, they never talk about how fast our defense is. Ohio St. hasn’t seen a defense this fast and I think they’re going to be shocked in the third qtr. when these “smaller west coast guys” are pushing them around and forcing Pryor into terrible positions.
Anyway…it was just funny to see Jesse Palmer slap them across the face with some truth about how the Big-10 performs against the Pac-10. I think Ohio St. is good, but this isn’t close to the best team The Sweater Vest has put together (that was a few years ago when they got rolled by Florida in the NC, a game I actually picked Ohio St. to win…oh well) and I just can’t see them dominating the game a la Stanford. Pryor isn’t capable of completing ridiculous passes like Luck was that day.
Sorry for the rant…“I’ve been drinking green tea all god damn day!”
I think Jesse understands how good we are
After he called the Civil War game. Since them, he’s been gushing over Masoli.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Actually...
It’s Mazoli, or perhaps Mazola, that he’s been raving about.
I think it means that he’s a huge fan of corn cooking oil.
by keeerrrttt1 on Dec 14, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think our speed will impact the game a ton. My feeling is that Tressel will look to concentrate on the power game, doing their best to minimize our strength. They have a size mismatch that they should be able to exploit
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
I really don’t see this to be the case. OSU’s size isn’t actually that different from most other offenses we’ve faced. USC had a size mismatch to the same degree. In the end it didn’t amount to much because Oregon can easily handle a one-dimensional team.
OSU is a very poor team on passing downs, and if they try to pound it, and thus become in credibly predictable, they will get into a lot of passing downs.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I think the biggest key to the game is that OSU is simply terribly coached offensively. Smart Football took it down after the loss to USC.
I think that the OSU defense will do a better job than most containing the Ducks offense, but the offenses they run are atrocious.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Bait and tackle?
In many ways, OSU offense is a like a car that won’t start, and has been a work in progress all season. However, that article is old, and much has changed about OSU’s offense. Also, there is always the threat that the car starts. Not that I’d worry about that much I honestly don’t see Pryor finding his accuracy in the 4 weeks he has had to prepare, I mean thats about as likley as Ducks learning to tackle.
Bottom line, yes the offense is ugly, but it still wins games. The same can not be said of the Duck Defense – a point we’ve disagreed on before.
Anyhow, well see when they play.
by Buckeye Bobo on Dec 14, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
How many days left again?
Hopefully the “informed analysis and discussion” we’ve all managed to display won’t deteriorate into the usual internet NO YR MOM SUX in the next seventeen days.
Sooooooooooooo many days.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Our defense is #1 in the Pac-10
in yards per play. As much as everyone wants to say we can’t tackle, it’s just not true. We couldn’t stop Stanford but, then again, no one could. OSU fans are going to be surprised by our D. Aliotti has stopped some formidable rushing attacks with time to prepare.
As I said, I’ve heard you on this before. We’ll see when they play. The tackling was horrible in your civil war, and Ari-who-na scored 41.
by Buckeye Bobo on Dec 14, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
I love how a Buckeye fan watches his first Duck game of the year and becomes an expert on our team’s performance over the course of a season. Typical.
FWIW – I did watch the first game of your season, but did not think it indicative of your Ducks generally, as with Ohio States loss to Purdue. Irronically, I find the 30+ you gave up against Purdue is indicative of your Defense. I know what OSU has changed on offense, I don’t know what the Ducks have changed on D.
by Buckeye Bobo on Dec 14, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
You're welcome to use the first game of the season
as indicative of how good our defense is. They allowed the absolutely horrible offense we displaye dthat night to stay in the game through four quarters.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Oregon State has been ripping it on offense...
and we held them to 381 and quizz to 61 yards on the ground. Please, Oregon State would have been favored against you guys.
I think a big difference is, anyone that is well versed in football and mechanics can see the difference between a good defense, and bad offense.
Bad tackling wasn’t the issue against Oregon State. That’s a ridiculous assumption. Purdue – that was a game of bad tackling. That’s like saying the linebacker for Penn State made a bad tackle as Beanie Wells plowed through him for a huge gain.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
I mean thats about as likley as Ducks learning to tackle. […]
Bottom line, yes the offense is ugly, but it still wins games. The same can not be said of the Duck Defense – a point we’ve disagreed on before.
Come on man, if you’re gonna make comments like that, at least back them up with some semblance of knowledge or fact.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Seriously. Everyone thought our defense would get handled by Oklahoma State last year, and we beat them up. And our D is significantly better this year.
We sure as hell did not beat them up in the first half!
The second half? Completely different :)
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Ed Cunningham went to Washington. Some friends and i have a running joke about Robert Smith after the USC game. He had a checklist and basically gave every team a check mark in the wrong category. We thought he was crazy when he gave Chip Kelly the coaching checkmark over Pete Carroll. Turns out he’s a genius…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
wow, just... so many things to address...
i understand the perception of the big ten being down, and you know what, i agree with it. but to believe that because my conference is down somehow gives you folks a decided advantage… that’s ridiculous. the SEC has been widely accepted as the ‘best conference in college football’ but if you look at the big ten’s record against the SEC in bowl games the last five years, it’s pretty even. no — when it comes to bowls — it’s how the teams match up against each other, not a pissing contest of who’s conference is better.
and please, the pac 10 has not dominated us in bowl games recently. USC has dominated us in bowl games, but the pac 10, no. that’s not true. the team that has been dominating you guys for the better part of this decade has been doing the same thing to us, so i don’t think its fair to say that collectively, the pac 10 has crushed the big 10, because outside of USC, that’s just not true.
and whoever said it was going to be a similar situation to when you guys played michigan in 07, please smack yourself in the face, lol. that michigan defense was absolutely awful. they gave up 34 points to appalachian st — they gave up over 30 points 3 times that season. ohio state hasn’t given up 30+ all season.
Fair enough
But that was still, what, a 9-3 or 8-4 Big 10 team. And what about Michigan in ‘04? And USC hasn’t dominated everyone in the Pac-10. I believe Oregon is 8-5 against USC in the past years. And they’ve had fits against Oregon State. In this decade, USC has only had something like an average of one more conference win per season than Oregon.
The Big-10 is my least favorite league. I really don’t care how you’ve performed against the SEC. Fact is, we’re the only BCS conference with a winning record against ALL other BCS conferences since the BCS started. And if that weren’t enough, you went 1-6 in bowls while we went 5-0 last year. ANd we put 7/10 teams in bowls, despite playing a round-robin schedule!!!! Do you have any idea how hard that is? Putting 70% of teams in bowls despite playing 9 conference games? The more I hear about OSU the more they become I least like and least respect. Can I say fuck OSU? There, I said it.
by DuckIt on Dec 14, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
But saying Duck OSU is perfectly acceptable.
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
by Jayon on Dec 14, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Your Sweet Sunshine!
The minute they start playing games outdoors in January in places like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, and Massachusetts, is when I start paying more attention to things like that.
by Buckeye Bobo on Dec 14, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Wait…
When is the last time the Buckeye’s played a game outdoors in January in places like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, and Massachusetts?
Or are you talking about NFL playoffs? Can’t be… because Detroit would have to not only win games, but enough for home field… And Ford Field is indoors… And Minnesota plays in the Metrodome…
I have no idea what your point is.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
I still don’t quite get it, but apparently there’s some notion that how you play in freezing cold weather is more indicative of your quality as a football team, and that football was meant be played when it’s cold. Note that the Big Ten conference doesn’t subscribe to this idea; hence they finish playing earlier than the rest of us.
Bama D-Line vs. Suh
Tackles: 98 - 82; TFL: 23.5 - 23; Sacks: 9.5 - 12; QB Hurries: 20 - 24; Pass Breakups: 5 - 10; Ints: 0 - 1; Forced Fumbles: 1 - 1; Kick Blocks: 3 - 3
by AllSaintsDay on Dec 14, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
At least they’re starting to figure it out. Michigan v OSU is going to be played after Thanksgiving. Better late than never for them.
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
Eh, I think from a strictly football perspective, they have it right with the ending early.
I also think championships belong in an “average-weather” site: baseball is good in Omaha, football is good in LA, Phoenix, Miami, or a dome.
Bama D-Line vs. Suh
Tackles: 98 - 82; TFL: 23.5 - 23; Sacks: 9.5 - 12; QB Hurries: 20 - 24; Pass Breakups: 5 - 10; Ints: 0 - 1; Forced Fumbles: 1 - 1; Kick Blocks: 3 - 3
by AllSaintsDay on Dec 14, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know about that. Sure having 40 days off before a game is great to get healthy. As we’ve seen from recent bowl game, it’s not too great regarding coming out flat.
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
But even still.. isn’t there only like… one bowl game north of the 40th parallel in January? I think that’s the International Bowl – which has the SkyDome indoor/outdoor thing.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
The minute any of those places
start having January bowls, we’ll talk.
wow duck it, and i hear i thought we were having a modest conversation...
i understand your opinion and respect your conference, but we all know the transitive property doesn’t work in college football. and i never said USC dominated you guys, i said they’ve dominated the PAC ten.
i’m sorry that our fan base is upsetting you because we believe our team is going to win.
No, transitive property doesn’t really work. But what exactly have you done in the past 5 years, especially this year, compared to Oregon to make you SO sure of a victory?
by the same point, what have we done in the last 5 years to make us so sure of victory? Maybe this is why the spread is only 3 points
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
All I’m saying is based on being a college football fan first—a guy who watches every game he possibly can before and after the Ducks—from what I’ve seen this year and with past CK-led offenses, I don’t even see how OSU can feel remotely confident unless the Ducks play horribly and unsoundly.
Again, becuse your “team” bleeds points on defense. When Iook at the Ducks on paper, I don’t see a team. I see a system with 1 superstar.
by Buckeye Bobo on Dec 14, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
NO YR MOM SUX
Needed to be said. Please, don’t turn this into ESPN.com.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
No Trolling Here!
Heart to Heart I straight up told him why I don’t feel 100 percent certain that OSU will loose. Yes its a tough answer, and I’m not name calling, but if someone questions me as why I should feel confident, I’ll tell them how I feel.
by Buckeye Bobo on Dec 14, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
When Iook at the Ducks on paper, I don’t see a team. I see a system with 1 superstar.
This is a troll, plain and simple. And a woefully uninformed one. If we don’t have a solid team, and only one good player, how did we win the Pac-10 by two games? The same conference that the pertient computers ranked no lower than 2nd, mind you.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
HOWEVER
Not seeing the defense as a “team” is about the least informed thing you have said on ATQ so far. Purdue was easily our worst game. (Trash talk interlude: DID OSU WIN THAT GAME?)
Arizona, Stanford, and OSU have quality offenses, and they took it to us at times.
The rest of the season our “team” defense was at times dominant, and otherwise consistently good.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
And what system is that? That’s the other thing. Big-10 people think Oregon runs this weird, flashy, new age, and gimmicky offense. It’s the simplest offense in the country, it’s just run by bad-ass dudes.
We run 3 plays for the most part: stretch run right, stretch run left, and pass. If you actually pay attention to our offense, you’ll realize that there’s nothing to it. And it wouldn’t be successful unless you had ridiculous athletes to outrun and confuse the opposing D.
And one superstar? Uhhhhh….what? Who is that? Even if you are referring to Masoli, do you dare suggest that James or Dickson aren’t superstars? Not to mention the un-sung heros on our O line who make all our offense possible.
i feel like i have to apologize for bobo
one superstar? dude… that’s not helping like, at all.
Dickson, Masoli, LMJ, Maehl, Matthews, Paysinger, Pleasant,
Tukuafu, Rowe and Ward all want to know who you think the superstar is?
Duh… the answer of course is Dixon!
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
by JShufelt on Dec 14, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Again, becuse your "team" bleeds points on defense. When Iook at the Ducks on paper, I don’t see a team. I see a system with 1 superstar.
Sigh, total ESPN.com or Oregonlive fodder. Not even worth responding to people who don’t respect the opponent enough to make outlandish claims like this.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Dec 14, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey ESPN.com has some very valuable information there,
you just have to sift through 5000 posts to find it.
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
And the only time our defense bleeds points is when we play teams that would put up big numbers against any successful school in this country. You honestly think Oregon State or Arizona wouldn’t put up big numbers against most any school in this country?
The difference between tOSU and UO is we actually played offenses that can put up points against anyone. You, on the other hand, shut out teams that were shut out or could be shut out by half of the BCS teams. Want a prize?
duck it...
come on man, we played some decent teams this year, yeah you cite the toledo’s and new mexico states on our schedule, but we played some good offenses — michigan, penn state, a purdue team that put up 36 on you guys, USC’s decent, wisconsin. chill out, man. it’s a widely accepted fact that our defense is good, that your offense is fantastic… can’t we just wait and see who’s better on Jan 1?
I agree on this. OSU will be the best defense we’ve played, by a good margin.
I think the real battle will be on the other side, and how Oregon can/will stop Pryor.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Our coaches...
that watch the game film and know how to scout have said that OSU will be the best defense we’ve faced. Of course, by a wide margin, I highly doubt it.
Absolutely friend.
All I’m trying to get across is that the defenses the Ducks had to overcome on O are way better than the offenses the Buckeyes had to overcome on D.
we could do this all day...
and nothing will get solved. 18 days buddy.
actually, he makes a good point. Our long snapper and punter are both true freshman and have been outstanding this year so far. A couple of shanks here and there but overall, solid for the class they are in
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
oy...
Pryor, Posey, Brandon Saine, at the skill positions, justin boren, mike brewster on the line… guys, both of our teams have talent. bobo was ridiculous for making that comment…
I think Bobo’s comment was saying Oregon has one superstar. If that’s the case, I’d love to know who our superstar is, considering that Oregon only had one player get the the first team all pac-10 team.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
You know what, even though the comment kind of stung when I read it, I have to say it’s almost agreeable. The Ducks have played as a team all year, they they would be the first to admit it. I thin it’s because we’re so young.
Usually, when a team is super young, superstars don’t readily emerge because everyone has to count on everyone for help at some point. So even though he said it for the wrong reasons, there is some definitely validity to it. Everyone plays a part on our team and no guy is bigger than the rest.
us too...
the bucks only got one player on the all conference team. hopefully bobo was so embarrased that he ‘let himself out’ of the blog. that was just an ignorant comment, idk if he was trying to just troll or if he really believes that. either way = lame.
Davereg412:
Check above post. I’m almost okay with it. Having 0 superstars (even though we really do) is nice. And I’m sure you feel the same. Why? In the end, we’re the champions of our conference!!! The less big-heads there are on your team, the more fun it is to root for them. Same reason why people wanted to see the Tampa Bay Rays take down the Yankees 2 years ago.
You can’t win with just superstars. It’s really hard to win without superstars and playing strictly as a team. But if you can combine the two, you get a Super Team. I hope we can be considered a Super Team.
yeah, i saw that...
i just think its ludicrious that both the pac ten and big ten champs only had one all conference member. but i can’t disagree with anything you said — it’s cool to cheer for that type of team.
We, undeniably, have more than 1 superstar...
Dickson is a top 3 tight end coming into the draft, Masoli is a heisman candidate next year, and LMJ is definitely going to get consideration. On defense, Ward was pre-season Pac-10 first team pick but was out too many games with a high ankle sprain. However, his production in the games he’s played in has been to par with the pre-season accolodes. Rowe has 8.5 sacks and Matthews was 2nd team all Pac-10 plus has the pedigree.
I’m not on the Masoli for Heisman bandwagon. He needs to show a year-round consistency.
If he comes out next year on fire, and plays well for the first 6-7 games, and still shows signs of improvement like he does… then I’ll be on that ride.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
I am definitely on it...
we get New Mexico and Portland State in our OOC…of course, sandwiched around a TENN away game.
Me no care about the Heisman Bandwagon.
Suh and Gerhart shouldn’t either.
Me care about the Masoli Convoy. Best to get out of the way.
A House of Spears > An Ingram
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 14, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Our one superstar is Amanda Pflugrad.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by Takimoto on Dec 14, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
tOSU has no answer to that!
Hehehehe
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Costa. Without that kick placement, we're lost.
Wait, wait, wait, we still won the Pac-10 by 2 games.
Hmm, I’ll keep thinking about it.
Amanda P?
A House of Spears > An Ingram
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 14, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody has won the Pac-10 by two games in almost 20 years.
Not coincidentally, the conference as a whole has produced zero superstars during the same period.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Correction: One team has won the conference in almost tweny years.
Can you guess which one it is?
A House of Spears > An Ingram
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 14, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
The other one is UW 1993
I think, looked it up last week.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
HRD wins both the Maytag stackable washer/drier and the reply success trophy.
A House of Spears > An Ingram
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 14, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
I'd like to personally thank Amanda P for making this happen.
Wasn’t she the on-stage presenter for the ATQ awards ceremony? The one in the low-cut sequined ballroom gown? Where did she go? I REALLY want to thank her.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
You were right the first time.
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
Man… just like the jersey contest… change my picks, and get it wrong.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
speaking of
as soon as i finish washing it excpet to see my last bit of gloating fun for the year….
Your official City Crow Of Eugene. Serving the community since 2009!
AGH!
Take some Midol or something to lessen your gloating!
Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck
Hahaha.
Gloat, the new fragrance from Axe.
When you try Gloat, everyone will be saying, “Snifff sniff, what’s that, cough, smell?”
A House of Spears > An Ingram
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 15, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
This is the wrong answer.
I was piggybacking on HRD’s “almost” 20yr comment, so I reserve the right to define “almost” as “any time period that UW did not win the Pac-10 by 2 games”.
Besides, UW cannot be involved in a correct answer.
A House of Spears > An Ingram
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 14, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
You are probably right
and considerably less lazy than me. It was actually painful to find the historical standings!
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Rec'd for pointing it out, so that someone who knows how to post a picture will do so.
A House of Spears > An Ingram
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 14, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Hehehehe
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
by CaDuck on Dec 14, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
i had a similar feeling...
when ohio state was absolutely crushing everyone in their wake during the 06 season. i looked at florida, who lost to auburn, who needed a last second field goal to beat south freaking carolina, and i thought, what has florida done to think they’re gonna win this game? and you know what, every one else in the country felt the exact same way. we all know how that turned out.
what i’m saying is, none of this crap matters until the two teams line up on the field and play eachother.
oh buckeye bobo...
what did you just say… you’re about to get slammed…
I think it’s the same for us. We feel confident because our offense has the air of being unstoppable and our defense has been sound for most of the season. tOSU can feel confident because they’ve navigated some tough games and their coaching staff has adjusted the later half of the season to account for Pryor’s current issues.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
lol, i never said i was SO sure of a victory:
i’ve openly admitted to the fact that we haven’t seen a team like yours all season, and we will have to play our absolute best to win on Jan 1. my oh my, so sensative.
Let’s just look at this year:
5th vs. 1st (close win on road)
6th vs 8th (big win on road)
1st vs. 7th (close win at home)
2nd vs. 2nd (loss on road)
IMO, it looks like the Pac-10 came out clearly on top, especially since they played on the road in all but one of the games. Small sample size? Sure.
But, this argument about the Pac-10 being down is no more ridiculous that Big 10 fans saying that OSU will win because they’re gonna push around the Ducks and win the TOP battle.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I should clarify one point, I’ve been saying if OSU wins it will be because of XYZ, and if Oregon wins it will be because of ABC. I’ve not guaranteed anything.
I mean, today I’ve pushed the NCAA rah rah thing and will do so more the longer it takes to get to gameday, but been respectful.
by Buckeye Bobo on Dec 14, 2009 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
+1 jtlight
good points — it’s a decent guage, i like your view on this, but we both know it comes to how each team matches up against each other. us buckeye fans think we’ll win the trenches, i’ve said that on this board — but the key is i *think it, i never said anything like OMG WE’RE GONNA CRUSH YOUR SOULS. lol.
i think you have a good view on this, and it’s only 18 days ’til we find out!
omg, he said he was going to crush our souls! Flagged!
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
flag flag flag
um, joke joke joke for those that dont know sarcasm
wants to challenge the definitions of sin and search the world for lovers of ultimate beauty but never settle in.
by joffthedeckk on Dec 14, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
ha ha
nice dominic — hear i am trying to ease all the hostility, and you throw that out, lol.
Dave
You’ve been more than civil since checking in here. You don’t need to apologize for any obvious homers who happen to root for your team.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not taking any chances,
I already choked down my Soul Crushing Counter Potion.
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
EYE CRUSSHEDED YER MOMZ SOUUL
This has to deteriorate into Oregonlive.com meaningless jarble at some point…Right?
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Masoli, James, and Others on the Rivals.com All Pac-10 Team...
Here’s the link. Good to see Javes get some love.
I really like Javes,
Especially after he decapitated the fUCLA QB. That is what did it for me
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Man
I know this isn’t a popular sentiment on this boards, but can we please, please please fire Ernie Kent? There is no reason for our basketball team to be so pathetic. If our football team had never installed leadership that aspired to greatness, we’d still be stuck in the doldrums…and I don’t know whether or not Ernie aspires to greatness, but he’s sure as hell not reaching it one way or another.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
I'm with you 100%
Ernie should NOT have the honor of opening Matt Court.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Hate to tell you this but even if he isn’t the coach of Oregon next year, he will be helping to open Matt Court. Regardless of what you personally think of him, he helped us get to that point both on the court and a LOT behind the scenes.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
Oh he did
And he got us a long way but he can’t take the next step.
Ernie only was successful when he had a very good PG to run his team (Brooks, Ridnour, etc.). Taj is not that guy and so he is falling short.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
TP isn’t a point guard, he’s a shooting guard and even he would admit that. Until he got injured, he was having a breakout year. He had cut his turnovers, had better decision making on shot selection and gave us a great outside threat. We also miss his free throws as was evident in the St. Mary’s game.
Malcolm Armstead has been doing a great job running the point this year and Garrett Sim has taken a step up from last year.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
I know this isn’t a popular sentiment on this boards, but can we please, please please fire Ernie Kent? There is no reason for our basketball team to be so pathetic.
I think it’s a popular sentiment by some people but not by me. The only loss that I felt like we really shouldn’t have lost was the Montana game. Portland will probably be a tournament team, Missouri…no excuse to get blown out by that much but they had lost a couple in a row and looked to get back into things on their home floor. We had a horrible shooting night and that’s what happens. St. Mary’s is also a good team, even without Wayne Hunter, and we were in the game right until the end. Not a bad loss at all.
We play Miss Valley State, Oakland, Idaho State, and Arkansas Pine Bluff. We should be 3-1 at the end of that stretch to end our out of conference at 7-5.
I understand people want to fire Ernie and that’s fine. Nothing I say will change it and nothing Ernie will do will change it. He knows the expectations. If we are a .500 team this year, I will be happy with that because that would show tremendous improvement. The team looks a lot different then last year and I’m willing to go on the ride.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
If we don’t go 4-0 against that schedule, Ernie should be fired. Those are teams that should not in any way even compete with us.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
don’t look past Oakland. Their SoS is brutal. Losses @ Wisconsin, @ Kansas, @Michigan State and @Memphis. Their other loss was at home against Eastern Michigan to start the year. I wouldn’t be surprised if we lost that game. The only saving grace is that they did get blown out by those Major teams but they were all on the road
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
oakland always beats us
what is our record against them in recent years? 0-3?? I am so tired of loosing to Oakland.
I Don't Yell O I SCREAM!
by trumpetduck on Dec 14, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
And it took me two of those losses
to figure out they are from Detroit.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
I also had the honor
Of being the first person this year to write “FIRE ERNIE KENT!”
I’m not usually one to blame coaches as readily as many (e.g. I don’t think Nate should be fired by the Blazers, not even close) but Ernie just has consistently underachieved with the talent he has had the past few years.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Scout is reporting a sleeper recruit...
namely Isaac Remington, a JC DE from Phoenix JC. Has offers from UCF and Utah State. He will join us January and has 2 to play 2. He is being reported at 6’6" 265 with 17 tackles and 7 sacks. We recruited him out of a small Arizona high school in the 2006. I am not too worried about this guy since our last two unrated recruits have been assigned 3 &* 4 stars respectively.
Kolson 82--I like the way you think
There is no doubt Ohio State is a good team. You don’t win a BCS conference without being good. But I think their quality is is being over-sold and the small details, as usual, are being overlooked.
Everyone keeps talking about their defense. Defense defense defense. I read on all the blogs: “All we have to do is disrupt their spread running attack.” First of all, does anyone want to stand up and mention who Ohio State has played? The Big-10 is filled with some of the slowest, least-productive, and simplistic offenses in the country. Their defensive stats were padded BIG TIME by playing New Mexico State and Toledo. Remove them, and their overall defensive performance, especially yards allowed per game, drops quite a bit.
And then what other powerhouse offenses did they play? Indiana? Minnesota? Iowa without their starting QB? Please. The teams they “dominated” put up shit offensive numbers against everyone they played. They were just a little worse against OSU. And will someone please name the Big-10’s best offensive player? It’s probably Joey Elliot, and he plays for a sub-.500 team. Basically, I have no reason to be impressed yet. Play in a league with offensive stars and against teams that otherwise put up big offensive numbers, and I’ll drop my jaw at your stats. If you pad your stats against Toledo and NMSU, play maybe 2 or 3 offensive stars, and maybe 1 offensive team (PSU, Purdue?), and you’re not doing much to instill fear.
Secondly, they keep talking about this running game. Child please. Do they have any idea how prepared we are for that? Let’s take a quick look at who we’ve played this year: Avery, Gerhart, Rodgers, McKnight, Best/Vereen, and even Polk and the Arizona stable aren’t bad. We’ve had to go up against 7 RBs ranked in the top-50 for rushing (and that doesn’t include Vereen) while Ohio State has faced 4 (one from Toledo). Based on the Pac-10’s stars at RB, I think we’re quite ready to man up and stop a team that can’t throw. Because if you ask me, we made Best, Rodgers, Avery, and McKnight look bad. Gerhart got to us because…oh, I don’t know…BECAUSE HE WAS A HEISMAN FINALIST AND HAD A GREAT QB BACKING HIM UP!!!!!
And concerning their theories of stopping us: we’ve played 4 defenses ranked in the top-20 in rushing defense. Even though nobody recognized it, many of the Ds in the Pac-10 were stout this year, especially against the run. Every week we heard “Oregon hasn’t played a rushing defense like this before.” “This team is very good at stopping the run.” “They’re fast all over and should be able to disrupt the Oregon O.” Ahem, how many teams actually stopped us? BSU. 1. The first game of the year. With 8 new offensive players. What I’m saying is that we hear that same song every other week, and have since CK got here. And every week, we rush for 200+ yards and that “top defense” we played drops 10 spots in national standings. And further, don’t you think every top defense we play thinks “All we have to do is stop their rushing attack and we’ll be fine.” Come on. EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO STOP THE OREGON O. IT’S NO SECRET. The point is, nobody has. Not to mention we have weapons on the outside and behind center to throw the ball well.
We need to respect OSU. They’re a good team with great history and tradition. It’s going to be a big game. They have a legendary coach at the helm. HOWEVER, if they think we should be scared for one second, they better keep waiting. Because based on what I see, below the surface of “they’re the best defense we’ve faced”, I just don’t see much. The way I see it, they’re the best D we’ve faced that has played the worst offensive competition. Look below that obvious surface, and I say good luck OSU.
Seconded
I’ve been wanting the write this same post for the last five days or so. tOSU might have a really good defense… or not, but looking at the offensive competition they generated their stats against, I’d say that isn’t proven.
They didn’t play 2 teams in the top half of the Big10 (Michigan St and Northwestern) and as noted one of the top half teams they played didn’t have it’s starting quarterback (Iowa). Add a couple of sketchy non-conference opponents (this happens… Oregon next year has only one tough preseason opponent). And Ohio State played all 5 of the Big10 teams in the bottom of the conference, none of which have a winning record.
The a couple of the SOS rankings I’ve seen have Oregon in the top 5 and tOSU at 50-60. It’s possible that Ohio St. has a crazy good defense, but you know… maybe not.
I’d really like to hear how tOSU defense plans to scheme against the “Oregon Inside Zone Read of 3 Technique DT” http://www.trojanfootballanalysis.com/wp/wordpress/?p=1572 but noone seems to know enough about Oregon’s offense or its players to say much more than,“Ohio St’s defense is really good, so shut up… that’s why.”
Or I keep seeing how Oregon’s opponents missed lots of tackles in the games they watched, and tOSU won’t miss tackles like that. As if no other Division I team can recruit players who tackle or somehow Ohio St. can teach their players to tackle in a way other teams can’t.
I want to see analysis about defending Oregon from the Ohio St. people, but instead all I keep seeing is magical thinking about their defense.
by encephalopath on Dec 14, 2009 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
Added
The Buckeye commenters here haven’t done it as much, but mostly as I look around the interubz, tOSU response to “How do you stop Oregon?” is: Our defense is ranked #5. And that it.
So you end up in a pointless examination of rankings: SOS, relative offensive and defense strength, conference rankings, etc. And no discussion of the football part of football. Just numbers, numbers, numbers.
by encephalopath on Dec 14, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
Hahaha. Yeah, but their defense is ranked #5.
I have a feeling that Coach Kelly will run an offensive gameplan similar to what we saw against Cal and USC. Masoli mitigated the strong D-line by quick screens to the outside, couple that with nice option pitches to Kenjon Barner; and their defense will have to play to the outside. Thats when LaMichael comes in for the SLAUGHTER by flying up the middle and cutting outside. Then Blount hammers away at poor LB’s until they cry themselves into submission. Not to mention having to handle Masoli’s dual threat ability; my head is spinning just thinking about all of the possibilities! Wow
The bottom line is that many Duck fans don’t respect tOSU’s defense as they potentially should; and many tOSU fans don’t respect our offense to the degree they should.
Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck
Numbers numbers number
Case in point:
http://www.wewillalwayshavetempe.com/2009/12/14/1200638/statistics-or-why-i-keep-telling
by encephalopath on Dec 14, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
I like the final score of 26-18 Buckeyes. We’ve scored less than 30 twice, once with our backup quarterback. I’m not saying the Buckeye defense isn’t good, but if we score less than 30 it’s because we didn’t execute, not because they outplayed us.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Listen, I appreciate the quantitative analysis of a team as much as anyone, but this is insanely rudimentary. To compare the points you scored/opponent didn’t score against them to everyone else to derive an end result final score is asinine.
I would love to debunk this guys hypothesis and analysis, but unfortunately I would have to use BIG words that I know anOSU fan would not be able to understand, and I have more important things to do like play NCAA ’10 and run Pryor so much in a game that he blows his ACL in order to hopefully jinx him before the Rose Bowl.
I guarantee you my NCAA ’10 scores have as much, if not more validity then this guys analytical drivel.
Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Ohio State..just another OSU. Free Dennis Dixon!!!
I saw that last night, and was shaking my head for the next hour or so. That type of analysis is beyond simplistic.
All it proves is that the gap between Oregon and its opponents is less than tOSU and their opponents. Wow. Shocking.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
But how
Assuming that Ohio States defense is really good, they still need to answer the question, How are they going to stop Oregon? The Buckeye defense has never played against an offense like this. It’s no big mystery what sort of game Oregon is going to bring. By now everyone in the PAC10 knows what Oregon does, and they still can’t stop it. We’re really good isn’t an adequate answer.
All that stupid number crunching doesn’t mean anything either. It assumes that there are only quantitative differences between teams and no qualitative ones.
by encephalopath on Dec 14, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
+5
The number crunching suggests that Oregon plays like Illinois and Michigan, just 1.35 times better. What the hell is that even supposed to mean?
by encephalopath on Dec 14, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
The thing about Oregons offense is,
We can only stop ourselves. High snaps, Masoli fumbling the ball, incessant drops, and bad reads doom our offense. If our execution is poor; a mediocre defense can make our offense look terrible.
If receivers catch the ball, and Masoli is keeping good control of the ball and reading the defense well; you cannot stop Coach Kelly’s offense. Nobody can, there are far too many mis-matches inevitably created. The bottom line is that if our offense can execute and FOCUS all game long, Oregon will be Rose Bowl champs and the game will look like the USC game.
Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck
Duck defense
It’s no secret what Oregon defense is going to do either: stack the box against the run and make Pryor throw the ball. If he can, then it’s game on and Oregon will make adjustments along the way.
If he can’t, Ohio State is in big trouble. So far Pryor hasn’t shown the ability to win with Pryor’s pass.
The game in which the Oregon defense had no answers, Stanford, was a particular set of circumstances that caught them out. Gerhart, big, , big, bruiser, coupled with a phenomenal offensive line that could pull like nobody’s business. Get the heavies moving up field and Oregon’s speed was neutralized. In the secondary Oregon ended up trying to take Gerhart down from the side instead of head on and they couldn’t do it.
With Luck standing fearlessly in the pocket and making the precise passes that he did, Oregon couldn’t stack the box to stop the run. Luck made them pay. Oregon teed off on him a few times, but when he saw he could make the pass he stood in there and took it without getting rattled.
Three other PAC 10 defenses did have an answer for Stanford: Arizona, Cal and Oregon St. Those defenses didn’t stop Oregon, though. At least not well enough to win.
Ohio St. doesn’t have the personnel to roll over Oregon like Stanford did.
by encephalopath on Dec 14, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Civil War
I saw some non PAC 10 views of the Civil War game all sorts of bad things to say about Oregon’s pass coverage. And granted they are young and were exposed in man coverage against the Beavers.
I think some of the negative perception of the Duck D came from people not understanding how really, really good the Beaver offense is. Oregon absolutely had to stop the Beaver’s running game.
If Quizz was able to run successfully, you would end up with defensive chaos. Canfield would still throw the ball if they were running well. Oregon had to take a dimension out of Oregon State’s game, and it was the running game they put the effort into shutting down.
Canfield did what he had to do, took the opportunities given him an threw well. But the reason we saw Oregon’s defense give up so much passing yardage was they they were camping out to stop the run. I don’t think the teevee audience ever got that.
by encephalopath on Dec 14, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
Don’t discount the fact that Sean Canfield had a great game throwing the ball, and James Rodgers is a great receiver. I can recall at least three or four pass plays where the coverage didn’t matter. Both ends of the pass-and-catch were so crisp that it didn’t matter how good the pass D was.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Indeed, the Canfield / Rodgers connection was on a rope, several perfect pass / catches.
A House of Spears > An Ingram
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 15, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
And a couple missed that ended up costing them the game…..
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Canfield must have been getting a little tired of getting the shit knocked out of him at the end.
’Cause yes, the very, very solid performance fell off when it counted most.
A House of Spears > An Ingram
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 16, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah...
Let me add that this is being very objective. I’m not an unrealistic homer fan. I was the first to admit that I thought we’d lose to Stanford and was terrified of how their offense stacked up against our D. I’m not myopic. And that feeling I had with Stanford, I’m not even close to feeling it for the Rose Bowl. So these are pretty objective opinions despite me being a Duck fan.
Locker's coming back for next year says ESPN
Who’s ready for more “LETS BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF LOCKER!” next fall?
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I'm all for staying in school
I think graduating is very important, and I would almost always come down on that side of saying someone should stay in school rather than leave early. But Locker is projected to be the first or second QB taken in the draft. That’s many many millions of dollars he’s forgoing to stay in school. Also, who wants to spend MORE time at UW?
When Eddie Pleasant breaks all the bones in Locker’s body next year, Jake’s going to regret that decision.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I hope for Jake's sake
And not UW’s, that he doesn’t’ end up getting hurt like Bradford did and dropping his draft stock.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
He might have been told something else by his own draft projection. I personally don’t think he’ll go that high, it’s just some analysts that have watched a few games from him, and think he’s the real deal.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
Projecting a QB's success in college to the NFL
is about the least exact science possible.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Of course analysts aren’t infallible, but it’s hard to believe he’d fall out of the first round. And the question becomes: how much MORE will he improve his draft stock next year?
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Was just typing this elsewhere
almost verbatim. Whose stock ever improves by staying another year? There are a ton of stories of early-declaration draft busts out there. How many times do we hear it was a good decision to stay in school comparatively?
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, what has he ever done?
My point was that for every Peyton Manning there are ten Maurcie Clarretts.
Furthermore, using standard conversion factors, ten Maurice Clarretts are equal to one Eddie Pleasant.
I think we see where this one’s going.
Eddie Pleasant is at least as good as Peyton Manning, and Eddie Pleasant needs to stay in school.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
His opportunity costs by staying in school another year are pretty grand,
He would have been a top-10 pick by declaring due to his combine numbers (he would have the fastest 40 time for QB’s, so he would obviously get drafted by Oakland…Al Davis is incompetent-being a Charger fan, it is sooooo sweet to see)…His stock can only fall. In a sense he could potentially lose millions by graduating. And he has another chance to be manhandled by Kenny Rowe, again.
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
You know it would happen too!
Al Davis chooses the fastest player at whichever position regardless of skill. I’m sure he would sign Usain Bolt to a contract giving him at least 1 billion a year. With of course the obligatory 2.7 trillion dollar signing bonus…
Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck
Jamarcus is additional fodder for my junior-draft-bust argument, also.
I love Al Davis. My only knock against Al Davis is that he makes it impossible to hate the Raiders anymore, because they’re too pathetic and sad to hate.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
It was genius on JaMarcus Russells part to declare early!
Look at how much money he is making for being a TERRIBLE quarterback!
Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck
Exactly
Jake Locker should grab the cash, and if it turns out he’s more than just an NFL QB body type, well then, bully for Jake.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
jarmarcus russell's issue wasnt the extra year
he’s a dumbass. seriously. he’s stupid as fuck. without football he’d be selling weed half off.
Your official City Crow Of Eugene. Serving the community since 2009!
And unlike McCoy or Bradford
It’s not like Washington has a snowball’s chance at a title next year.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
But he’s fast and strong, did I mention that he was fast?
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
I always miss the most mundane details!
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
With his shoulder, I’d leave to develop in the NFL, I don’t see what he gets from UW by staying. He is talented enough to last at least 3 years before someone is finished with him, and if he develops faster, it might last even longer than that.
He gets a degree so when the NFL team find out he can’t throw the ball accurately… he has some credentials to get a good job.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
So is that a Communications, Sociology or Rec Management degree?
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
Rec Management? That’s like being a blogger on sbnation, right?
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
by JShufelt on Dec 14, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I was hitting CTRL-V frmo wikipedia when this popped up.
DAMN YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
But you forgot to add the punch line:
And we all know that history majors make gobs more money than NFL quarterbacks.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
They used to, before there was any such thing as football.
A House of Spears > An Ingram
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 14, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
You also could have gone with:
History majors all go on to marry supermodels, unlike NFL quarterbacks.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
If recent guaranteed bonuses given to first round draft picks are any indication, he won’t need a good job after he finally gets cut loose. Or at least he’ll have enough to live on while he goes back to school to finish his degree.
It’s weird, normally I argue the other side of this, but you hate to see guys get injured (a la Bradford) and hurt their prospects because they stayed one year too long.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Yeah, school is good. But if you’re gonna be a top 10-15 pick, there’s too much money on the table. Sanchez was brilliant to leave when he did.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Still a douche, though.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
heres something to think about
with locker staying, he gets drafted into the UNCAPPED YEAR.
Your official City Crow Of Eugene. Serving the community since 2009!
*Potentially uncapped year.
Either way, I cannot see a Team paying him much more then they would have regardless of whether the year is uncapped or not. He will probably garner a Sanchez-like contract no matter what
Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck
And her's a reply fail to make up for it.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Wow,
You were so happy…And it is all drained away by another pesky reply fail
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
The Impact is outraged by the douche-baggery on this MQF today. And that says a lot, because The Impact wrote the pamphlet on douche-baggery. Plain and simple, Oregon is going to win because green is the color of cash money, and yellow is the color of piss. And The Impact is so hot, he pisses money baby! And what is a Buckeye anyway? Duck rhymes with fuck, Buckeye rhymes with fuck guys. And The Impact loves the ladies. What up now OSU fans?
by The Impact on Dec 14, 2009 2:14 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That just happened!
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
Wow,
Tako, er, ugh, uh, I mean “The Impact”…You are the Ducks very own CV3000…Perhaps you two were separated at birth. One chose the evil loser side of life, the other chose glory. Thats right, The Sausage Party thinks that “The Impact” is glorious. There, I said it.
Gawd this is a random rant on my behalf. I truly am sorry
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
The Impact, are you related to Takimoto?
Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Ohio State..just another OSU. Free Dennis Dixon!!!
Are you related to Matt Daddy?
A House of Spears > An Ingram
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 14, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Are you related to Matimoto?
A House of Spears > An Ingram
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 14, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Today’s toy is ESPN’s playoff simulator
This was my first simulation
First Round:
Oregon vs. Iowa.
Oregon Win, 29-25
Masoli: 105 Passing; LMJ: 111 Rushing
Second Round:
Oregon vs. Texas
Oregon upset, 31-30
Masoli: 105 Passing; LMJ 74 Rushing
Semifinals
Oregon vs. Cincinnati
Oregon Win, 34-33
Masoli: 137 Passing; LMJ 117 Rushing
Championship
Oregon vs. TCU
Oregon with the upset, 32-29
Masoli: 105 Passing; LMJ 101 Rushing
Oregon wins the national championship!
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
What a run
Beat the number 10, number 2, number 3, and number 4 teams in the nation within the span of a month. How great would a playoff system be?
Defending maligned chants since 2009
That looks like a lot of heart attacks for Duck fans with all of those close games.
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
I had three or four heart attacks just reading the post.
Really, widest MOV = 4 pts? the amount of PANIC would be overwhelming.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 14, 2009 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. But talk about an amazing year…
Kind of crappy yards from Masoli and LMJ, so it would be exciting and boring at the same time.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
Our ESPN playoff simulator championship...
is at least as legitimate as the one that will be given out in Pasadena.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
I switched up, and tried my own sorta… regional-izing seeding.
The first one was West, Midwest, South East, North East brackets, and Boise State lost to TCU in the championship.
I then made it so only the the highest seed was in the region (Which gave Alabama, Texas, Cinci, and Boise the top seeds), and the rest were ordered according to the BCS. Oregon ended beating Boise in the national championship – and they won too.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
Somebody put together a Photoshop trophy, too!
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
Oregon wins the Christopher Walken authorized National championship!!!
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
How dare you diss one Christopher Walken!
Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck
Are you kidding?
That’s a compliment! I wish I could look as scary as Walken.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Your logic confuses me. Only one thing to do.
OVER-RATED!!!!! OVER-RATED!!!! OVER-RATED!!!!!
Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck
Bowl discussion:
What is the most ridiculous thing about the St. Petersburg bowl?
That it exists? That fact that UCF is eligible and is in it? That Rutgers is eligible and is in it? That it will be aired on ESPN? Or that it is sponsored and now actually called the Beef ‘O’ Brady’s Bowl?
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
Hey...
our sleeper recruit was down to USU and UCF before we came along and offered. At least one bowl eligible team is on that offer list.
Could somebody explain this to me
Why is Building the dam putting the Jake Locker Story on home page?
The same reason why we have a story about some local basketball coach on our front page.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
FYI
massive baseball deal close to fruition that sends cliff lee to seattle and halladay to philly
Your official City Crow Of Eugene. Serving the community since 2009!
you'll owe me 2 drinks my friend.
im on a roll with bets against you. thank you my sweet oasis
wants to challenge the definitions of sin and search the world for lovers of ultimate beauty but never settle in.
by joffthedeckk on Dec 14, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
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