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Quack Fix: Practice update, the 1958 Rose Bowl and a JC commitment

Rose Bowl preparations are finally under way as the Ducks began practice last Friday.  With that, we have a little more quack than last Tuesday.  Enjoy!

As usual, post any comments or links below. 

Go Ducks!

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i think both teams are going to have a tough time simulating the opposing teams QB during these bowl practices. this thomas fellow you guys have seems like a decent option to try and simulate pryor, but i can’t imagane him having the same running style (long stides) and he can’t be as hard to bring down with his size.

as for us, we have NO ONE who can simulate the ‘jukiness’ and power that masoli has. maybe one of our running backs would be able to replicate his running style; but as i said, it’s gonna be tough for both teams to have a great ‘scout’ QB.

by davereg412 on Dec 15, 2009 7:27 AM PST reply actions  

Either way,

It would be impossible to simulate the ability of Masoli to read the defense while running the read option. And yes, there is no way we can simulate Pryor’s size

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 7:29 AM PST up reply actions  

umm...

no, it’s not impossible to simulate that ability. masoli isn’t the only person in the country who know’s how to read defensive tackles/ends in a zone read scheme. granted, he does it very well — but that’s not impossible to replicate. what’s hard is finding someone who has his combination of size, speed, power and throwing ability.

by davereg412 on Dec 15, 2009 7:45 AM PST up reply actions  

wait you guys have Dennis Dixon on your scout team?

that just doesn’t seem fair.

I Don't Yell O I SCREAM!

by trumpetduck on Dec 15, 2009 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I assure you that nobody on the Buckeyes can run the read option like Masoli...

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

seriously, he practices this one play half of his time all season long

its not that easy. Just the same as our scout team probably does a bad job with power running plays, we just don’t do it.

I Don't Yell O I SCREAM!

by trumpetduck on Dec 15, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I think what Masoli does best is the "Mesh"

as CK likes to call it. That is the point where the ball is both with the RB and QB. This mesh leads to great fake-outs and general confusion by the D. This is what is going to be extremely hard to replicate. How many times have you been at the game or watching at home and you are following the wrong person who you think has the ball. And how many times on TV have you seen the cameraman look completely lost on who to follow. That level of deception and quick reads is going to be hard to replicate.

by SeattleDucks on Dec 15, 2009 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

it was only hard to follow who had the ball...

because the freaking camera guy always followed the wrong person. that won’t be a problem with the buckeyes D though, we eat corn for breakfast lunch and dinner, which is commonly known to enhance eye vision and reaction time : )

just teasing — good call on the “mesh”. masoli is absolutely sick.

by davereg412 on Dec 15, 2009 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Double-D was the almighty God of the mesh.

Anyone have a clip of the Husky D-line celebrating their sack while Jeremiah Johnson was picking up a 30-yard gain?

by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 15, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Not as great as the Beaver defensive player celebrating Masoli centering the ball at the end of the OSU game. Great awareness buddy!

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Dec 15, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

that was the best thing i’ve ever seen. that guy was fired up. give that man a helmet sticker!

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I was at the game

and under the influence of severalteen Vodka Red Bulls, therefore not smart enough to pick up on it myself.

Sorry, all this DD talk is starting to depress me. Best. Duck. Ever. sniff sniff sob

by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 15, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

He faked out BOTH ABC guys

That was the BEST play ever.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Dec 15, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

That was beautiful.

I was watching the CW by myself and couldn’t make fun of him to anyone but my dog. :(

by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 15, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I got that backwards. Miller had it in his blog after the USC game:

“I recall a number of times seeing Galippo — and others — chasing a guy who didn’t have the ball. It reminded me of a few years back hearing a Husky Stadium crowd roar with approval as the Washington defense stacked Jonathan Stewart at the line of scrimmage. Only Dennis Dixon was skipping down the sideline for a long touchdown run without anyone even looking at him — not the defense, not the TV cameras, not the crowd, not the reporters in the press box, who were convinced it must have been a trick play, not just a basic read-option keeper.”

by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 15, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I was at that game

That happened about 20 times that day.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Dec 15, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

CaDuck,

Love the offering to Juju, great picture. BTW with Christmas coming, I was wondering what Juju would want for Christmas. Do you think it likes Fanposts, Fanshots, Painful YouTube clips, screen names or profile pics.

Can you find out and let me know, I want to get it something nice for all the work it did this year.

Thanks.

Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Ohio State..just another OSU. Free Dennis Dixon!!!

by Matt Daddy on Dec 15, 2009 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I know for a fact that Juju appreciated the TJ Ward sacrafice of

Zac Robinson. I’m sure that the Javes Lewis sacrifice of fUCLA’s QB was much appreciated as well.

 If those don’t work, you can never go wrong with Snickerdoodles!!!

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

beavers

dropped eastern washington, about to add TCU for next year’s opener at cowboys stadium..
you’ll NEVER see a SEC team do something like this. ballsy. should be good exposure (hopefully they don’t get exposed again as they tend to do early..)

by caguirre91 on Dec 15, 2009 8:33 AM PST reply actions  

Yep, I’ll be rooting for them hard in that game. Won’t be easy, esp. against a good defensive team like TCU with a new QB (or Moevao).

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Dec 15, 2009 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I swear that Moevao is at least 30!

the pac-10’s Jason White!

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Except Bama

Bama always plays a tough opener but the other schools, nah.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Dec 15, 2009 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

A couple points...

Four SEC teams started off this year with BCS opponents, Bama, LSU, UGa, and USC. Bama’s other three nonconference opponents deserve the least praise, followed closely by LSU. USC had Clemson left and Georgia had ASU and GT.
Bama starts next year with San Jose State, while LSU and UK start off with BCS opponents (UNC and Louisville).
During 05-10, four of LSU’s six openers have come/will come against BCS teams (05 @ASU, 07 VT, 09 @UW, 10 UNC)

My eternal gratitude to anyone who can successfully figure out a way to throw an LSU logo, an Oregon logo, and a Saints logo into the same userpic. Bonus points if it's LSU's Tiger Eye or if you can fit a Braves tomahawk too.

by AllSaintsDay on Dec 15, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

UW doesn’t count as a BCS team. Cmon now.

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by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

5-7 teams in BCS leagues don’t count as BCS opponents? Well, guess we didn’t play any BCS teams out of conference then.

My eternal gratitude to anyone who can successfully figure out a way to throw an LSU logo, an Oregon logo, and a Saints logo into the same userpic. Bonus points if it's LSU's Tiger Eye or if you can fit a Braves tomahawk too.

by AllSaintsDay on Dec 15, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

interesting....

Oregon State is about to finalize a contract to open next season with a paycheck game at TCU
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_/id/6343/oregon-state-close-to-inking-game-with-tcu
(to all those Beaver fans who talk about the big time, what other big time schools are scheduling no return paycheck games with nonAQ schools?)

Beavs play at TCU and at Boise in the first month of next season.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Dec 15, 2009 8:41 AM PST reply actions  

The paycheck will be nice. However, this could also be some twisted scheme by Riley. I think he WANTS to lose early in the season, so he can perpetuate the Riley is a great end of season coach myth. So they schedule games that are easily losable and you can have excuses for. Very sly coach, very sly.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Dec 15, 2009 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I found your left your green-and-yellow tinfoil hat on the turf at the CW game. I’ll mail it back to you.

by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 15, 2009 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

For Christ's sake

Typos ruin another great joke.

by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 15, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh the many times I’ve done that…

I always follow it up with a string of expletives that make me look like some person.

its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"

by JShufelt on Dec 15, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

… some crazy person.

GOD DAMNIT MOTHER EFFING SON OF A COCK PUNCHING DONKEY WHORE… Ruined MY joke.

its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"

by JShufelt on Dec 15, 2009 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I just figured you had two windows open and accidentally posted the Deadspin comment here.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

DONKEY PUNCH!!! My go to reference involving both donkeys and punching

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Flagged for lack of subtlety and innuendo.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Dec 15, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sorry,

But DONKEY PUNCH!!! is never meant to be spoken with subtlety

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

you have to think Riley and the Beavers have nothing to lose by scheduling these games. If they win, Nat’l spotlight a little earlier then usual and their fanbase gets all riled up about it. If they lose, “who cares we always start off slow, we’ll be fine.”

Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Ohio State..just another OSU. Free Dennis Dixon!!!

by Matt Daddy on Dec 15, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

they could be easily fighting just to be bowl eligible next year. the pac 10 is going to be really really good. every team has tons returning including their QBs which we know run this league. every fan base is already fired up on who is returning. when did the pac 10 turn into the AL East?

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Huge amounts of young talent in the skill positions. This fact should temper any off-season Juju blasphemy during the conversation about the Ducks winning the national. Surviving the Pac-10 with even one or two losses is going to be a feat.

by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 15, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for replying correctly. You’re getting there HRD!

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by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s going to be a fun year next year. Oregon is loaded. OSU is loaded everywhere by QB. UW returns Locker, and will be a threat to take down any team in the conference. Stanford has Luck. USC won’t get worse (though they are losing most of their line and may not get better).

Oregon is the early favorite, but no game will be easy.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Dec 15, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

At large

I’m thinking next year might be the Pac-10’s best at earning an at-large bid since—when was it?—the very early 2000s. Let’s hope that two teams emerge as the clear dominant ones with everyone else doing well—winning OOC games and making it to 7,8, or even 9 wins.

It really might be a great exposure year for the Pac. OSU plays TCU and BSU; we roll into Tennessee; Washington plays BYU, Syracuse, and Nebraska (the latter 2 at home); Arizona hosts Iowa; USC plays Virginia and Notre Dame; UCLA goes to Kansas State; and then there are a few other games, but I’m too lazy to keep looking.

The point is, next year could be a time for the Pac-10 to put itself on the map big time. On top of great OOC games that are VERY winnable, the average team in the Pac returns 16 starters, there should be numerous all-american candidates, Masoli and James are at least 2 guys who are going to get Heisman pub, probably 3 big BCS candidates, and because so many guys are coming back, it would probably suggest many will graduate (meaning the Pac should send a TON of people to the NFL). This year was fun, but next year, our league should be standing at the top of the heap by year’s end.

by DuckIt on Dec 15, 2009 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

thats why its important Pac goes 5-2, 6-1 in the bowl games.

Potential Pre-Season Rankings:
Ducks – Top 5/10
Beavs/USC – Top 10/15
Ariz/Stanford – Top 15/20
Cal/Wash – Top 25/Rec Votes

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

We should be pretty successful in bowl games this year. I like our chances in most of them. ANd you’re absolutely right—we could start next year with many highly ranked teams. Wow. What a year it’s going to be.

by DuckIt on Dec 15, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I disagree

I think it’s going to be very hard for the Pac 10 to send two teams to BCS conferences. The conference is so good from top to bottom (well, almost bottom – WSU and ASU are still going to struggle) that I see something very similar to last year happening. One team will win the conference with one loss while the other quality teams beat up on each other at home.

The key is going to be winning all of the non-conference games. And that’s where there’s a problem:

UW – BYU, vs Neb OSU - @TCU, @BSU Cal - nothing difficult Furd - @ND (I'm not sure if I'm joking here) USC - vs ND (see above) UCLA - @KSU,Tex
Zona – vs Iowa
Oregon – @Tenn

We have to figure that all of these team have the potential to lose 2 in-conference games, and that means those are the only games they CAN lose in order to get an at-large berth. Cal, USC, and Oregon are set up the best to do that. Stanford is right there, provided they don’t crap the bed against someone like Wake Forest again. I have a feeling OSU, Arizona, UW, and UCLA would have to win the conference to get the BCS berth, since it’s unlikely they’ll go undefeated in OOC.

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by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow, that was an html mess. Screw it, I’m not reposting. Basically I listed tough OOC games for all the decent Pac 10 teams.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I know the schedule. I listed most of the big games just above. I know it’s going to be hard. My point was that if two elite teams can emerge like, say, UO and OSU, and they stay on top while the rest of the conference does well, nobody will be able to deny a 1 or 2 loss second place team.

by DuckIt on Dec 15, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s true – if both Oregon and USC or Cal run the OOC table (which they all should), it will be a matter of only losing two in-conference games. I think OSU is going to need to win the Pac 10 to get a BCS berth. Playing @TCU and @BSU is a tough task for an offense breaking in a new QB.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

the key is losing to high ranked teams that are inflated due to pre-season hype. ask LSU. no offense :)

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

And yet

The SEC will still consider itself three rungs above the rest of us, as will most of the national pundits.

by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 15, 2009 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't foget that ESPN stands for

Eastern
Sports
Promotion
Network

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Dec 15, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

i’ve always been a Texas fan. well ever since i went to austin for a couple weeks 4-5 yrs ago. i’ll be the biggest Texas fan ever vs. Alabama. please win and please drop 40+ pts on them.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

will be nice for the rodgers brothers to play close to home too. that might be a factor…na its probably just the money.

by caguirre91 on Dec 15, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

they are prob disappointed they dont get to take their annual recruiting trip to the Sun Bowl. Playing in Texas is never a bad thing. Does the deal w/ the Alamo Bowl start next year or the year after? It will be strange to be happy to go to San Antonio instead of San Diego…

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Starts next year (2010 season). That will be interesting. I’m glad the 3rd place Pac-10 team doesn’t have to go to El Paso.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Dec 15, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

it will be quite strange that the drop-off won’t be as bad from 2nd to 3rd place. no complaining about El Paso if you finish 4th.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure that the 3rd place team is glad they dont have to go to El Paso

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

LMJ was named to All-American Third-Team by Sporting News. Quizz was named second team.

by ntrebon on Dec 15, 2009 8:54 AM PST reply actions  

I was actually surprised at how easy it was to shut down Quizz in the Civil War. Besides the one long pass where the Ducks missed a tackle on him, he was quite easy to contain.

LMJ showed so much more during the Civil War. He showed speed, strength, agility, and made multiple game breaking plays.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Dec 15, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not that surprised

Quizz=slower, slightly harder to tackle version of James. Since our guys practice against LMJ all the time, can’t be that hard.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Dec 15, 2009 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Quiz is a lot thicker, which makes him hard to tackle. And he’s got some moves to help balance him.
LMJ is hard to tackle, mostly because you can’t get your hands on him. And he’s got some power to help balance him.

its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"

by JShufelt on Dec 15, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

The thing about LMJ that impresses me the most

Is his play vision. He has developed the skill to see the holes and then burst right through them. He has one heck of an NFL future if he keeps that up.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Dec 15, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

He also learned quite a bit on learning to cut back, use blocks, or accelerate through.

On his crazy two spin play from their own goalline against UCLA… if he relied on his speed, he has a 99-yard TD

its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"

by JShufelt on Dec 15, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Line of the year re LMJ by ESPN

“If he gets behind you, you might as well start playing the fight song.” (Said about LMJ’s big TD run in the Civil War).

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Dec 15, 2009 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

that’s my favorite Scott Van Pelt line. he busts it out every once in a while.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

This is a great point

You could really tell how much LMJ developed during the year. I remember that play in the UCLA game vividly and thinking that he was trying a bit too hard rather than trusting his legs. I think it was the USC game when he really put it all together and used his agility as an asset at the right times.

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by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

In the Cal game

He slipped a couple times trying to make cuts and cost himself some long runs. By USC he had fixed that.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Dec 15, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he has learned the same lesson as J-Stew had to,

TRUST YOUR DAMN ELITE SPEED.

Since the UCLA game, LMJ has trusted his speed; and became an all-world freshman n the process

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm most impressed w/ LMJ's power.

Yes, fast, shift, hard to catch… all upper echelon talent level… but he’s really not supposed to be able to get those extra 3 to 5 yards after you grab him and have him wrapped up… and he does.

Freaking love that, no quit in the guy, keep the legs churning until you have him buried under the grass.

A House of Spears > An Ingram

by Bill Musgrave on Dec 15, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It is mind boggling to see a 5'9 back push the pile...

Totally worthy of a “sheer(ly) + awesome adjective” reference

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Mind bending to watch him enter a hole and seeing an incoming tackler,

  legs keep going but backwards a step or two, out of the hole and off in another direction while the would-be tackler is hung up in the hole. If OSU hadn’t had superb pursuit, he’d’ve gotten 300.

"We'll go."

by DONALDUCK on Dec 15, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I was very impressed by our ability to push Quizz backwards, which many teams were not able to do.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Dec 15, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

thanks jtlight

i’ll be watching these a little later for sure. if you guys want some enemy perspective…

by davereg412 on Dec 15, 2009 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Great Link

Lots of good information including this gem on how Tressel is looking to mimic Oregon’s play calling haste

Well, we always work hard to get ready for speed. The tempo that they bring, the number of plays, how quickly they run them and so forth, we try to not just put all that on the scout team because the scout team wears out after a while. So we integrate it really three different ways, one, we do it with the scout teams, we call it exchange teams. We do it sometimes with a kind of a group of the twos go down and really fire off some plays at them and then we do it when we go ones against one where we’ll really go hard on the tempo and that type of thing. They do a good job there. They’re, I think, fairly simple in how they attack you, it’s just hard to tackle them and cover them and do all the things that they do, but they do it so quickly and they do it with a good feeling for what the next answer is. They can say, okay, I know how they’re lining up to our — when we go fast tempo, okay, so here’s what they’re going to do.

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Dec 15, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah -- 99% of the time...

you have to weed through the tresselspeak, but he was pretty straight forward with his answer on how the defense is trying to prepare for you guys. i like the way tressel is simulating it, but obviously, it’ll be a lot different once our guys face off against the real deal. can’t wait!

by davereg412 on Dec 15, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

That is the beauty of Chip's style

Tressel is finding good ways to prepare for our uptempo assault on your defense, but there is not one group on your team that can do it alone. You are more than welcome to use your ones, twos and scout team in the game, we will stick with our ones. Our team plays at this tempo all year and will probably even take it up a notch after some rest. Not much your team can do now. Whoever can dominate tempo will have a big advantage in this game. If we go fast, we win. We are the Ricky Bobby of college football.

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by trumpetduck on Dec 15, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

i prefer to think of us as the Myron (from BBQ Pitmasters) of college football. if you haven’t seen it, he actually is a real person who looks like Kenny Rogers but acts like Ricky Bobby.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec’d for absurd Ricky Bobby reference

by QuackinAK on Dec 15, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Tressel imma be on your ass like a spider monkey!

It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"

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by Takimoto on Dec 15, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Every single game, without fail,

we hear about how the opposing coach is preparing for our up-tempo offense. However, we seem to always score 40+???

by BisonDucks on Dec 15, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps

they are preparing for us to score 40.

by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 15, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

some smart guy picked Beavs as his “upset special” to beat BYU. uh…why would that be an upset??

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by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 11:52 AM PST reply actions  

*on ESPN

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

On the ESPN Bowl Mania special last night, Jesse Palmer was the only one who liked Oregon. The other guys were all over the OSU bandwagon.

I think it will be a pretty tight game, but the coverage on this is just so ridiculous. First of all, on the Rose Bowl graphic they put up, they always throw these things up there: “Ohio State: 7 – 0 all time vs. Oregon” and “Oregon: 1 – 3 all time in the Rose Bowl.” I can see bringing those things up during the actual broadcast, since they have a lot of time to fill and it’s interesting for more casual viewers to hear the history behind each team. I get that. But this is a show that’s supposed to provide analysis on each game. How are those factoids at all relevant to this year’s Rose Bowl?

Then both commenters (not Palmer) went on and on about tOSU’s defense and Oregon has never seen a defense like this, and that’s why tOSU has a big advantage, blah blah blah. Then one of them mentioned Masoli’s inconsistency. Okay, I’ll play along, tOSU has a great defense and Masoli has been somewhat inconsistent (although far less so during the second half of the season).

But then where’s the statement that tOSU hasn’t seen an offense like Oregon’s? Where’s the analysis of Pryor’s inconsistency? I don’t mind that they picked tOSU. It should be a good, close game, and that’s certainly a legitimate opinion. It’s just the incomplete analysis that bothers me.

End rant.

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by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

they also voted for Mark Ingram cuz he faces superior defenses.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, that’s right, I forgot about another thing – they took the requisite pot shot at Pac 10 defenses, making the basic point that Oregon’s been putting up numbers against a bunch of patsies, which, as Ted Miller detailed in a good post, is completely false.

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by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

actually heard a guy say (who had an actual Heisman vote) that he voted for Ingram cuz he led them thru the rough schedule early in the year when their QB turned into Chris Harper. The 5 games he said by name were:

Arkansas
Kentucky
Ole Miss
South Carolina
Tennessee

that’s 1 good defense – S. Carolina

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Better than the one who voted Ingram, Tebow, McCoy because he’d only seen parts of some Gerhart games, and a few of the Big 12 championship for Suh, and didn’t want to vote for someone based on highlights.

Defending the SEC in Addicted to Quack and the Pac-10 in And the Valley Shook and Team Speed Kills. Including pointing out that if you want to frame the SEC, talk about East Coast Bias, but if you want to be correct, talk about Big Market Bias.

by AllSaintsDay on Dec 15, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

wow. Heisman voting has basically turned into the Coaches Poll. i think you should only have a vote if: you’re a previous Heisman winner OR you watch football for at least 12 hours straight on Saturdays.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, and link for those interested.

Defending the SEC in Addicted to Quack and the Pac-10 in And the Valley Shook and Team Speed Kills. Including pointing out that if you want to frame the SEC, talk about East Coast Bias, but if you want to be correct, talk about Big Market Bias.

by AllSaintsDay on Dec 15, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Robert Smith went to Ohio State. Just sayin’.

He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.

by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 15, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know, and like I said, I don’t mind that those guys picked tOSU to win. I just thought they gave short shrift to Oregon’s strengths and tOSU’s weaknesses.

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by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

And the other guy went to UW

So yeah, I think he might have been lynched in effigy had he picked us.

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by skywaker9 on Dec 15, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

He gets a lot of crap for being some homer… but I’ve never heard him pimp anything Ohio State when it was unwarranted. I think he does a great job of being objective. Sensationalist? Sometimes, but not a homer.

its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"

by JShufelt on Dec 15, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

i'll give you the analysis was inconsistent...

but hey, maybe those two commentators were trying to swing the pendolum back a little bit here. you guys have seen the poles, 75% of america thinks ohio state is gonna lose this game, and honestly, i don’t see oregon as that big of favorites to justify 3/4 of the country thinking you guys are gonna win.

obviously that’s just a theory, maybe they were hypin’ the bucks to help the nation realize this game will be closer then some might think… i don’t know gorbachav5 — i wouldn’t read too much into it. as said earlier, 75% of the country thinks you guys are gonna win, so it shouldn’t be that big of a deal if a couple guys on espn think otherwise.

by davereg412 on Dec 15, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

most people that vote on those polls are idiots. then again, i’m taking the Ducks 31-21.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

As I mentioned, it doesn’t bother me that they pick OSU to win. I agree, 75% of the country picking one team over the other in a matchup of teams separated by one spot in the rankings is a bit ridiculous. I’m not trying to play the “disrespect” card here.

The fact is that Oregon is favored for a reason. I’m just protesting the incomplete/faulty analysis. It was lazy and typical of ESPN talking heads. If you’re going to mention that Oregon didn’t play a defense like OSU’s (true), also mention that OSU didn’t play an offense like Oregon’s (no, Toledo does not count).

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by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Those other guys were a Buckeye, and a Husky so who cares.

by QuackinAK on Dec 15, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Are they favored?

its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"

by JShufelt on Dec 15, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

i’m guessing its a pick ’em. if either team wins, i wouldnt think its an upset. actually BYU is favored by 3.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, there you go. I was wrong.

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by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the only Pac 10 underdog is Stanford, but I may be wrong.

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by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

my fault. bodog has Oregon State – 3. the “upset special” pick confused my ability to read gambling lines properly.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Via Moseley's Twitter:

nationalchampions.net Way Too Early Top 25 for next year:

1. Alabama
2. Boise State
3. Oregon
4. Florida
5. Ohio State

13. USC
17. Oregon State

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

  • or nationalchamps.net

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

BSU at #2? Really?

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Dec 15, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

If they beat TCU,

and Oregon State/VA Tech in their OOC next year, I will accept a #2 ranking. However, that is a tall order. Of course, I think by year end they slip lower and miss the NC. A lot would have to go in their favor for the mythical run.

by BisonDucks on Dec 15, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

They’ll have to be up on the other teams by at least a loss. The computers will still penalize them too much.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Dec 15, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

daverg412

Your guy shut down another thread after 6 posts. Wow…

by BisonDucks on Dec 15, 2009 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

It just might be time for a Mitch Hedberg quote barrage…

He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.

by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 15, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey now,

We only save our go-to move for the likes of Canzano!

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

i think we need to start graveyard-like headstones like Univ of Miami used to have during their 300 game home winning streak back in the day for shutting down comment threads.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Good gosh

That thread was about as civil as the internet gets. WTH?

by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 15, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

which article?

would you mind linkin’ it so i can see?

by davereg412 on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

just saw it...

i don’t know why he locked that. sam is my boy, i’m not gonna say anything bad about him because he know’s his stuff — but i don’t know why he locked the thread. he’s usually open to good, honest, not trollin’ type conversations. weird.

by davereg412 on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

LINK!

its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"

by JShufelt on Dec 15, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah what is up with that guy? He really likes to limit the conversation.

by QuackinAK on Dec 15, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Could be a big problem with trolls over there...

Who knows

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

fml

we have a lot of depth on the defensive line, but you hate to see a guy like rob rose, big body, decent back up, miss the game.

we’ll miss duron carter more. he only had a lil over 150 yds receiving, but he was good in 3rd down/goal line situations, and he was probably our best run blocking receiver.

by davereg412 on Dec 15, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

eh

doesn’t sound like it will have too big an impact on the outcome.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Dec 15, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Rob won't, Duron will...

WR isn’t necessarily our greatest strength. Now we’ll have to go to taurian washington, who acts like pryor’s throwing turds at him when the ball comes his way (he drops the ball… a lot). we have a lot of WR that have potential, like chris fields and james jackson, but i don’t think tressel is willing to burn their red shirts for the bowl game.

by davereg412 on Dec 15, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL at this:

Carter ranks third on the team in receiving yards (176) and tied for fifth in receptions (13). Says a lot about the lack of a passing game at tOSU.

"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"

by M. Fletcher on Dec 15, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure that our 5th recievers stats are worse than Carters are

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Cris Carter should stop preaching about Randy Moss and start drawing a map for his son to the library.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

wicked burn...

i’m surprised by duron’s ineligability. the son of a legend at osu — you’d think he’d realize the importance of his schoolwork, or at least that his dad would be on top of him and stressing said importance.

by davereg412 on Dec 15, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

then again, i’m sure i would have been ineligible after my 1st semester freshman year too.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 15, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Gorbachav5...

I saw the same thing you did on the Bowl Mania show. I’m with ya. It isn’t that they picked tOSU, it’s that Cunnigham’s analysis was, and this not an exaggeration of what he said. “I was calling a Duck game earlier this year and saw Masoli complete 4 passes against Utah…he’s inconsistent…” and then he went on to talk about how tOSU’s defense will force Masoli into that kind of game. Do ESPN analysts know anything about teams progressing as the season goes on. They love small sample sizes. Yes, let’s jusdge Masoli in December on a game that happened in September. That makes a lot of sense. What an idiot. Oh well…I guess I shouldn’t expect good analysis from ESPN.

by kolson82 on Dec 15, 2009 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

Masoli is 17-4 as Oregon's starting quarterback.

Enough said about consistency.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Dec 15, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

You know what, Cunningham? I saw a game earlier and Masoli completed 21 of 25 passes against Cal! So there!

It’s silly and lazy and makes for terrible analysis.

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by Gorbachav5 on Dec 15, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

what happened on those 4 incomplete passes?

if his receiver’s dropped the ball, then that’s fine. if he just downright incompleted them, that’s freAKING INCONSISTENT!

no, i’m just teasin’. cunningham is a douche. thank God we’ll have the best announcers in college football callin’ the Rose Bowl, and not be subjected to his intolerable idiocy.

by davereg412 on Dec 15, 2009 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably something terrible such as Canzano, Holtz, and Papadakis.

I would contemplate suicide if this were an actual broadcasting crew!

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 15, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

musburger, herbstreet and sideline I believe

normal sat night prime time abc game

I Don't Yell O I SCREAM!

by trumpetduck on Dec 15, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Good

Will be great to see if Brent’s tie can get any worse while he’s mocking the Duck unis.

by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 15, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I think a couple were drops and a couple were thrown out of bounds.

by QuackinAK on Dec 15, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

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