Quack Fix: Conference awards and the sad state of the Pac-10 men's basketball conference
by ntrebon on Dec 8, 2009 6:04 AM PST
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PrintIn case you're having trouble coming to terms with the fact that the Rose Bowl is more than three weeks away, here's some quack to tide you over:
- Ron Bellamy has a story today about Chip Kelly being named the Pac-10 Coach of the Year. Bellamy also notes that Oregon is only the second conference champion to only have a single player earn first team honors. He also notes that ballots for the all-conference teams were due last Wednesday -- before the final week of the season (though coaches could have changed their picks via a teleconference yesterday).
- Bob Clark takes a look at how the Pac-10 men's basketball teams are struggling against non-conference opponents this year. There are only two conference teams in the top 100 of the RPI (UW at #6 and Cal at #28). Wow. Clark ends the column with his weekly conference ranking, and Oregon comes in at #10 after their blowout loss to Missouri.
- Nick Daschel looks at where this year's Oregon team ranks among the Pac-10 conference champions over the last two decades. Daschel puts them at #7, one spot ahead of the 2001 Oregon team.
- John Hunt has a blog entry up where he muses about the possibility of Jeremiah Masoli making a run at next year's Heisman. Though, if it were up to Kelly, it sounds like there would be very little in an official "Masoli for Heisman" campaign besides his (and the team's) performance on the field.
- DuckTerritory (subscription required) has a little more on the Ethan Grant decommitment. It looks like he made a surprise visit to TCU this past weekend after there were earlier rumors that he might come back out to Oregon for the Civil War.
- Amanda Johnson earned conference player of the week honors after averaging nearly 21 points and 10 rebounds in three wins for the women's basketball team this past weekend. Sounds like the men's team could have used her hot hand.
- Also, in case you missed it yesterday, rumors abound that Jim Harbaugh has, or will, interview for the Notre Dame head coaching position. The above link to Jon Wilner's blog includes an update with a denial of the stories by the Stanford AD, who claims there is "absolutely no chance" that Harbaugh will be at Notre Dame next season.
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i'm definately not the expert here, but...
is your guys oregon team this year really better than the 2001 oregon team? forgive me for my ignorance, i obviously don’t follow oregon football very closely. but from what i remember, that 01 team was damn good. i remember you dick punching colorado in the fiesta bowl, and had a solid defense to go along with harrington and that offense.
and it’s funny, with me living in ohio and being on the EST schedule, i feel like i’m walking through some cave in lord of the rings, before all the giants wake up, lol. i can hit up your blog before you guys are even awake, leave my mark, then escape before anyone notices.
quick! Get him! He’s in the Cave of the Giants!
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
I’m disturbed by your dick punching analogy.
I’ll say this, if we… dick punch… Ohio State in the Rose Bowl, then yes. I would say this team is better. Maybe not as talented individually, but way more focused and way more gel than the ’01 year.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
Honestly, 2009 is better defensively.
The rushing defenses are almost identical in terms of yardage per game and yards per attempt. But the real difference is passing defense. The 2001 defense gave up 284 yards per game and a pathetic 7.14 yards per attempt. 2009 Oregon passing defense is giving up 202 ypg and 5.8 yards per pass attempt. The opponent rating was rather similar due to the number of takeaways the 2001 defense had. In reality, the 2001 pass defense was pretty terrible.
Offensively, the teams were pretty similar in terms of production, though I would rank the 2001 offense higher. They averaged 6.35 ypp, while the 2009 offense averaged a mere 6.1.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
How sweet would a game between ’09 Ducks vs ’01 Ducks be? Belotti/Tedford v Kelly. Old Aliotti v New Aliotti. Masoli v Harrington. Somebody call EA sports and let them know this would be the greatest set up for any game ever… I need to play this!
I LaLove my Ducks. Best way to start a new decade imaginable... Oregon in the Rose Bowl January 1st!!!!!
alas they do not have the '09 ducks yet
but this is the site you have been looking for. By the way ’08 beat ’01 2 out of three times, rushing for 500 yards avg in the wins.
I Don't Yell O I SCREAM!
I know the schemes are different
But the 2001 defense sure did a number on a “vaunted” CU rushing attack.
The road to Pasadena goes through Autzen...and the Ducks have punched their ticket to THE ROSE BOWL!!!!
’07 Ducks vs. ’01 Ducks
55-38 – Dennis Dixon Player of the Game
48-38 – Jeremiah Johnson Player of the Game (5 Carries, 2 TDs, 175 Yards, 35 yard average – Hahaha)
56-29 – Jonathan Stewart Player of the Game (5 Rushing TD, 1 Reception TD)
24-12 – Dennis Dixon Player of the Game
42-34 – Jonathan Stewart Player of the Game
Apparently healthy ’07 was head and shoulders above ’01.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
i did it once and '01 ran dixon and co out of the stadium
the ducks are just too good to quantify
I Don't Yell O I SCREAM!
I did ’07 vs ’05… and laughed out loud
73-23
1st Quarter
Or2 12:05 FG Paul Martinez 36 yds. 3-0
Oregon 9:19 TD Jonathan Stewart 3 yd. pass from Dixon (Evensen kick) 3-7
Oregon 7:39 TD Jonathan Stewart 6 yd. run (Evensen kick) 3-14
Or2 4:13 TD Jeremiah Johnson 4 yd. run (Martinez missed extra point) 9-14
Oregon 1:42 FG Matt Evensen 44 yds. 9-17
2nd Quarter
Oregon 12:54 TD Jeremiah Johnson 13 yd. run (Evensen kick) 9-24
Or2 10:02 TD Terrence Whitehead 19 yd. run (Martinez kick) 16-24
Oregon 8:07 TD Dennis Dixon 10 yd. run (Evensen kick) 16-31
Or2 4:18 TD Jonathan Stewart 2 yd. run (Martinez kick) 23-31
Oregon 1:32 TD Jonathan Stewart 4 yd. run (Evensen kick) 23-38
Oregon 0:00 TD Brian Paysinger 40 yd. pass from Dixon (Evensen kick) 23-45
3rd Quarter
Oregon 11:38 FG Matt Evensen 22 yds. 23-48
Oregon 3:56 TD Brian Paysinger 21 yd. pass from Dixon (Evensen kick) 23-55
4th Quarter
Oregon 12:46 TD Jaison Williams 4 yd. pass from Dixon (Evensen kick) 23-62
Oregon 6:09 TD Jeremiah Johnson 2 yd. run (Evensen kick) 23-69
Oregon 0:22 FG Matt Evensen 22 yds. 23-72
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
So they stalled at the 5 yard-line twice.
Shoulda hung 81 on them.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
This is just funny stuff…
1st Quarter
Oregon 9:50 TD Dennis Dixon 7 yd. run (Evensen kick) 0-7
Oregon 4:21 TD Derrick Jones 7 yd. pass from Dixon (Evensen kick) 0-14
Or2 1:33 FG Paul Martinez 37 yds. 3-14
Oregon 0:39 TD Jaison Williams 2 yd. pass from Dixon (Evensen kick) 3-21
2nd Quarter
Or2 9:46 TD Terrence Whitehead 5 yd. run (Martinez kick) 10-21
Oregon 7:33 TD Jonathan Stewart 40 yd. run (Evensen kick) 10-28
Oregon 2:39 TD Brian Paysinger 2 yd. pass from Dixon (Evensen missed extra point) 10-34
Or2 1:13 TD James Finley 32 yd. pass from Clemens (Martinez kick) 17-34
Oregon 0:32 TD Jonathan Stewart 3 yd. run (Evensen kick) 17-41
3rd Quarter
Oregon 9:49 TD Jonathan Stewart 55 yd. run (Evensen kick) 17-48
Or2 4:13 TD Demetrius Williams 9 yd. pass from Clemens (Martinez kick) 24-48
4th Quarter
Oregon 14:22 TD Jeremiah Johnson 5 yd. run (Evensen kick) 24-55
Oregon 10:50 TD Derrick Jones 45 yd. pass from Dixon (Evensen kick) 24-62
Oregon 6:23 TD Jonathan Stewart 5 yd. run (Evensen kick) 24-69
Oregon 2:39 TD Jonathan Stewart 8 yd. run (Evensen kick) 24-76
Or2 1:20 TD Terrence Whitehead 11 yd. run (Martinez kick) 31-76
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
Love the 4th-quarter bomb to Jones up by 31.
Mike Bellotti is throwing F-bombs at Mike Bellotti from the far sideline.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Heh. I could waste a lot of time playing with this. Final score is surprisingly close.
2008 Oregon at 2008 Oregon State.
1st Quarter
Oregon 7:58 TD Jeremiah Johnson 46 yd. run (Evensen kick) 7-0
OreSt 4:27 FG Justin Kahut 37 yds. 7-3
Oregon 0:45 TD LeGarrette Blount 25 yd. run (Evensen kick) 14-3
2nd Quarter
OreSt 14:49 TD Jacquizz Rodgers 49 yd. run (Kahut kick) 14-10
Oregon 10:37 TD Remene Alston 5 yd. run (Evensen kick) 21-10
OreSt 7:50 TD James Rodgers 19 yd. pass from Moevao (Kahut kick) 21-17
Oregon 7:00 TD Andre Crenshaw 44 yd. run (Evensen kick) 28-17
OreSt 3:54 FG Justin Kahut 39 yds. 28-20
Oregon 0:41 TD Jaison Williams 10 yd. pass from Masoli (Evensen kick) 35-20
3rd Quarter
Oregon 11:20 TD LeGarrette Blount 9 yd. run (Evensen kick) 42-20
OreSt 8:00 TD Ryan McCants 34 yd. run (Kahut kick) 42-27
Oregon 6:05 TD LeGarrette Blount 15 yd. run (Evensen kick) 49-27
OreSt 3:48 TD Shane Morales 8 yd. pass from Moevao (Kahut kick) 49-34
4th Quarter
Oregon 5:46 TD LeGarrette Blount 5 yd. run (Evensen kick) 56-34
OreSt 5:25 TD James Rodgers 72 yd. run (2-PT conversion failed) 56-40
Oregon 2:05 TD Jeremiah Masoli 49 yd. run (Evensen kick) 63-40
Want to get depressed? Run the 01 Ducks vs 01 Miami.
It’s ugly.
those who do not remember history should read my blog...
I just did. For me, it was close into the fourth quarter.
2001 Oregon vs. 2001 Miami
1st Quarter
Oregon 10:21 TD Onterrio Smith 50 yd. run (Siegel kick) 7-0
Mia-Fl 2:19 TD Clinton Portis 49 yd. run (Sievers kick) 7-7
3rd Quarter
Mia-Fl 9:54 TD Frank Gore 42 yd. run (Sievers kick) 7-14
Oregon 0:14 TD Samie Parker 32 yd. pass from Harrington (Siegel kick) 14-14
4th Quarter
Mia-Fl 13:21 TD Frank Gore 64 yd. run (Sievers kick) 14-21
Mia-Fl 7:33 FG Todd Sievers 28 yds. 14-24
That would have been a fun game to watch, from the looks of it.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
Lots of big plays. Other box score notes from the game:
-Joey was 19-35 for 207 yards with 1 TD and 2 interceptions.
-Ken Dorsey worse, 14-33 for 233 yards, 0 TDs and 3 picks.
-Steve Smith had 2 picks and Marley Tucker had 1.
-Clinton Portis and Frank Gore combined for 235 yards rushing on 34 carries and 3 TDs
-Oregon had 8 punts, Miami 6.
I wound up with a 40 – 24 score in favor of Miami, but it was close until the 4th quarter. Ed Reed basically went nuts – he picked off Joey 3 times!
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The closest I got (in 6 or 7 simulations):
Miami 37, Oregon 34
I had to give Miami a pass heavy offense (Dorsey got picked off 5 times!!!) and gave the Ducks a West Coast offense. Miami scored a TD with 48 seconds left to tie the game (51 yard pass to Winslow). Somehow, the U got the ball back (fumble, maybe?) and got a 38 yard field goal as time expired to win. How heartbreaking would that be?
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Lucky. Every time I run it it looks something like this:
Mia-Fl 9:52 TD Kevin Beard 42 yd. pass from Dorsey (Sievers kick) 0-7
2nd Quarter
Mia-Fl 13:50 TD Clinton Portis 49 yd. run (Sievers kick) 0-14
Mia-Fl 12:11 TD Frank Gore 38 yd. run (Sievers kick) 0-21
Mia-Fl 8:45 TD Clinton Portis 8 yd. run (Sievers kick) 0-28
Oregon 6:23 TD Onterrio Smith 21 yd. run (Siegel kick) 7-28
Oregon 1:38 FG Jared Siegel 48 yds. 10-28
Mia-Fl 0:09 FG Todd Sievers 24 yds. 10-31
3rd Quarter
Oregon 8:14 FG Jared Siegel 47 yds. 13-31
Mia-Fl 5:33 FG Todd Sievers 32 yds. 13-34
4th Quarter
Mia-Fl 12:54 TD Ethenic Sands 3 yd. pass from Dorsey (Sievers kick) 13-41
Mia-Fl 9:24 TD Clinton Portis 3 yd. run (Sievers kick) 13-48
Mia-Fl 5:58 TD Clinton Portis 46 yd. run (Sievers kick) 13-55
Mia-Fl 3:29 FG Todd Sievers 32 yds. 13-58
That Miami team was something else. How many other teams have had 4 starting NFL running backs in the same lineup?
Portis. McGahee. Gore. Davenport.
Oh, and Jeremy Shockey.
Andre Johnson.
Ed Reed.
Kellen Winslow.
Jonathan Vilma.
Philip Buchanon starts for the Lions.
Bryant McKinnie – Vikings.
Probably others, but it’s too depressing to think about.
those who do not remember history should read my blog...
Oregon (2007) vs. LSU (2007)
Ducks win 18-16 on a SAFETY with 19 seconds left. How ironic would it be if the defense won the National Championship for us that year.
Scoring Summary
1st Quarter
LSU 10:33 FG Colt David 30 yds. 3-0
2nd Quarter
Oregon 14:27 FG Matt Evensen 28 yds. 3-3
Oregon 4:40 FG Matt Evensen 26 yds. 3-6
LSU 0:39 FG Colt David 36 yds. 6-6
3rd Quarter
Oregon 9:30 FG Matt Evensen 47 yds. 6-9
LSU 6:46 TD Jacob Hester 1 yd. run (David kick) 13-9
Oregon 4:30 TD Jonathan Stewart 43 yd. run (Evensen kick) 13-16
4th Quarter
LSU 8:15 FG Colt David 48 yds. 16-16
Oregon 0:19 S 2007 Oregon Safety 16-18
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Okay, just ran it again, check this one out
Oregon 51, LSU 13
J-Stew goes for 200 yds and 3 TDs. Dennis Dixon throws for 180 and 3 TDs.
DAMN TORN ACL!!!!
I shouldn’t torture myself like this.
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What will Allsaintsday do?
Whether he be met by rain, sleet, or DB's, the Maehlman always delivers.
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 8, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Is “Head Asplode” a valid answer?
12 N. O. on the Gulf Coast, Roses on the West Coast!
"Trindon Holliday returns both punts and kickoffs and SWEET JESUS DO NOT KICK THE BALL TO TRINDON HOLLIDAY EVER EVER EVER." ~ Black Shoe Diaries on LSU
by AllSaintsDay on Dec 9, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Of course, and take all the time you need to feel whole again.
We’ll be waiting here with open arms when you’re ready.
Whether he be met by rain, sleet, or DB's, the Maehlman always delivers.
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 9, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
I think so yes
The D is certainly much better. The offense is totally different though because we had Harrington, who is a much better passer than Masoli but doesn’t have his legs.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
sorry -- it's the first thing that came to my mind...
and call me crazy, or biased, but i don’t see oregon man-handling us. our defense is absolutely ridiculous — it should be a fun/close game in my opinion. great match up. 24 days!
I didn’t say we WILL dick punch Ohio State, I just meant that if we do, then I think we are better than the ’01 team.
I don’t think either team is going to do any man-handling. It’s a decent match up.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
man handling and dick punching?..
This thread is getting out of hand
I LaLove my Ducks. Best way to start a new decade imaginable... Oregon in the Rose Bowl January 1st!!!!!
That's two days in a row
We’ve had a strange thread meme going on. Yesterday was homoerotic blasphemy and today is manhandled dickpunches (the Manhandled Dickpunches’ new album is fantastic, by the way).
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Coincidentally,
the first single on that album is entitled ‘Homoerotic Blasphemy’.
TOTALLY STOPPING THERE THIS TIME.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
This post has been removed by the administrator for dickpunchery.
Whether he be met by rain, sleet, or DB's, the Maehlman always delivers.
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 8, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
Hahaha!
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
My groin hurts
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Slighty OT
My Fantasy Football league (where I won the #1 seed by 2 games with a 10-2 record, gee where did I hear that one before) took a vote on whether we loved or hated Tebow. The vote was 10-0 in favor of hating him.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
i'm an ohio state fan, so...
i hate everything that comes from florida. i hate oranges. i hate people who are too tan. i hate the sun. and yes, i hate tim tebow. when he was crying at the the end of the SEC game… i never though i could enjoy someone else’s pain so much. that whole game, the entire three hours, was like a three hour massage. i loved every second of it.
I like Tebow
I think he’s a great person, which, in my opinion, is way more important than being a great football player. Yeah, he wears his heart on his sleeve, but he’s honest. He takes responsibility on himself, which is rare these days when everyone tries to pass the buck to someone else.
People take exception to his holier than thou demeanor, but from what I’ve read (and it’s not everything, so I may have missed something), he doesn’t come off as condescending or judgmental, just open and honest about who he is. There’s nothing wrong with that in my book.
He’s a solid football player and a great human being. I hate the Gators (you know, SEC and all that), but I can’t help but like Tebow.
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Tim Tebow is fine. I’m pretty sure everyone hates how the media covers him. Maybe they’ll learn their lesson that we don’t actually know these athletes after Tiger. Yes they’re really good at a specific sport but we don’t know them personally.
I like Brett Favre the QB. I dislike the non-shavin’, fake worn out hat-wearin’ guy who just loves to play like a kid!
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
I want to hate Tim Tebow, really I do.
And being an unabashed religious agnostic, I should hate him and his Bible verse eye-black.
But he actually seems like an honest kid, who uses his celebrity to bring some good to people who need it, in the name of what he believes in.
That’s respectable. I don’t see him doing anything worth mentioning in the NFL, to be honest, so he’s doing what he can when he can.
He’s like a vastly more famous Danny O’Neil, when you get right down to it.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
bill simmons said it best...
tebow is actually a fine young man, has a lot of charactor and does a lot of good for people in need. i don’t hate him because of those things. i sports hate him. i sports hate everything about him.
Yup
I sports hate him in the same way I sports hate Tony Parker or Shaq. Unlike say Kobe, whom I truly hate.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Can we just not even talk about anything NBA related so I don’t start crying again over the Blazers?
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Okay
But we got a break today, Indy’s top player Danny Granger is out for four weeks. We can get a win tomorrow and should.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
We “should” have beaten the Knicks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Fair enough
I’m an optimist. At least we always have 12/3
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yessir. For the record, I’m an optimist too. Just after laying down to the Knicks it made me want to puke.
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
I SAID GOOD DAY SIR!
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Sports hate deprived me of an NBA team to root for.
Going way OT, but need advice.
Was born and lived in LA until age 7. Long enough to have fond memories of the Forum. Moved to the East Coast until I was 18, then to Oregon. Was a diehard Lakers fan until they signed Shaq. Slightly less diehard, then realized young Kobe was an arrogant little dickhead. Then a series of signings that made me want to puke. Dennis Rodman? Karl Malone? Gary Payton? And now, Ron freaking Artest?
What the hell am I supposed to do with that?
The flip side is that when I moved to Oregon, the Blazers-Lakers rivalry was at its peak. I took glory in that Western Finals Game 7 19-point comeback in a room full of Blazer fans who’d been trashtalking me all night up to that point.
But I’ve lived here for 20 years now. The Blazers have suddenly become extremely likeable after the Jailblazer era.
When can I get off the Lakers’ hook? Seems like Simmons had a manifesto for this somewhere, can’t find it though.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
To be completely honest, I’m pretty much a bandwagon Laker fan. I grew up with them in SoCal during the Riley/Magic/Worthy Showtime years. I hung around and was actually a big fan during the dark ages (Sedale Threatt, Cedric Ceballos, Vlade, Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel, Elden Campbell, etc.). Once they signed Shaq, it wasn’t nearly as fun to root for them, for some reason. I rooted mildly during their championship years, enjoying them, but mostly trying to rile up Portland fans while I was going to school at Oregon.
Now I’m a pretty casual fan. Kobe bothers me a lot, as good a basketball player as he is. I like Fisher, Farmar, Gasol and Brown, but other than that, meh.
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This post has been removed by the administrator because I can't bear to read it.
Whether he be met by rain, sleet, or DB's, the Maehlman always delivers.
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 8, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
Your story sounds a lot like mine...
I too moved from the LA area at 7. Was a huge fan of the Showtime Lakers and a casual fan of the Blazers until the 89-91 seasons. (Was a sports bigamist at that young age) The Lakers morphed into my most hated franchise with the rise of Kobe and the Shaq/Fox/Fisher team. Magic is still my all-time favorite player, but I will never go back to being a Lakers fan.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
This post has also been removed by the administrator for really, really obvious douchebaggery.
Whether he be met by rain, sleet, or DB's, the Maehlman always delivers.
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 8, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
CaDuck says...
Go Lakers, Represent California
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
This post has... I give up.
Do not “Go Lakers”.
Do not collect $200.
Whether he be met by rain, sleet, or DB's, the Maehlman always delivers.
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 8, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmm,
I don’t even know what you are talking about with this tricky 200 dollar business. But I will continue to poke the dead hobo with a stick…Go Lakers.
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Or, do not go Lakers.
The end.
Whether he be met by rain, sleet, or DB's, the Maehlman always delivers.
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 8, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
my trigger finger with the banhammer is getting awfully itchy
type the words “Go L*kers” in here one more time, and it may be your last tme…..
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
OG. KARELS!
Yeah, figure that one out…
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
so tell me
is there any such thing as a Clipper fan? Does it actually exist?
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
No...Not even in SoCal, haha
I suppose I should be a Clipper fan, considering I have lived in San Diego my whole life and all. But the Clippers are just the subservient little brothers of the Lakers.
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
I actually worked for the Clippers for a while.
And the answer, is no.
Whether he be met by rain, sleet, or DB's, the Maehlman always delivers.
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 9, 2009 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
Rake Slog?
Leak Srog?
Go Rakels?
Sea Krogl?
I don’t know I give up…
Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Ohio State..just another OSU.
Go Hornets
12 N. O. on the Gulf Coast, Roses on the West Coast!
"Trindon Holliday returns both punts and kickoffs and SWEET JESUS DO NOT KICK THE BALL TO TRINDON HOLLIDAY EVER EVER EVER." ~ Black Shoe Diaries on LSU
by AllSaintsDay on Dec 9, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
This is a good point
There are two basic levels of sports hate: the guys you hate because they are a key superstar on a team you hate, but you’d actually love them if they played for your team (Derek Jeter is a good example of this for me, Tom Brady would probably be another one), and then there are the guys who you’re convinced you would hate no matter what (Kevin Youkilis, for example).
I tried to put Tebow into that first category, but I just think he’s a good person. I can’t even sports-hate him. But I understand why some people do.
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Jim Harbaugh can't go to ND
He just took the job as Baltimore Ravens head Ref liaison/the guy who screams at the refs. Anybody else see him 5 yards onto the field next to him brother yelling at the refs last night? Is that even legal? Obviously if I had a sideline pass they would not let me do it. But that has to be illegal even for the head coach’s brother.
I Don't Yell O I SCREAM!
The team may get fined
Each NFL team is supposed to have a “Get Back Coach” (usually the strength coach) whose sole job during games it is to keep all team personnel off the field and from screaming at the refs.
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I am aware of the get back coach
but Jim Harbaugh is not team personnel. He is a fan!
I Don't Yell O I SCREAM!
As long as you are wearing
A piece of team apparel and have a sideline pass you can do what you want. Probably should have been tossed from the sideline though.
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It is amazing how far the Pac-10 has fallen
From arguably the best conference ever two years ago to horrid now.
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Pac-10 stands to have two tournament teams this year.
What are we, the friggin’ Sun Belt?
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
The SEC would have only had one last year
If Mississippi State hadn’t stolen a bid and made it to the tourney where they unfortunately lost to Washington. I had to watch Washington win but was happy to see them lose two days later.
No seriously, if you would have told me coming in that Gonzaga was making it out of Portland and Washington was not, I would have said fine.
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we have a basketball team?? tell me more…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
coincidentally i was picking Ohio St as my fav team this year due to them blowing people out, best player dropping triple-doubles every other game (till he broke his back) and Club Trillion nonsense. that might have to wait till mid-January now…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
oh NEP, please don't remind me...
evan turner was a freak of nature. i hate my life. ohio state basketball would have been a lot better if it weren’t for a stupid accident that broke his stupid vertabre. these next 8 weeks are going to be dark, hollow shell of what they could have been with a healthy turner.
actually started to like them during Oden year. no need to share injury stories with us out here in Oregon. was in Mexico during Final Four that year and was amazed how he almost beat 4 NBA draft picks pretty much by himself.
enough hoops talk, hope Turner returns to get drafted top 10 and they can make a run in the tournament.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Bellotti is about to be on Colin Cowherd after this commercial break.
http://espnradio.espn.go.com/espnradio/index
Click Listen Live on the right.
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:38 AM PST reply actions
Wow he’s actually in studio. I wonder what he’s doing in Conn?
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Can he visit the Staten Island recruits? (Easley and Werner)
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Probably attending the Heisman ceremony
This weekend and priming the pump for donors.
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Good call. That’s what they are talking about. Says he’d vote for Toby Gearhart.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
also, thanks for the tip MCD. I was able to start listening about 30 seconds before Bellotti came on.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
You give me about 1 Billion links for every 1 that I turn you on to!
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Bellotti (shockingly) picks Oregon. But his reasoning (OSU won’t be able to exploit Oregon defensively because of their passing game) was sound.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
That's what I've been saying
The only reason Gearhart goes off on us is their passing.
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Is it wrong that I was happy that he picked TCU so quickly?
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
After Grants shenanigans...
I don’t know who is pissing me off more…BSU or TCU. Either way, BSU will have only beat another non big-six team; that alone is depressing yet amusing. But BSU fans are unbearable.
I was fine with TCU, until yesterday. Bitterness has now set in you god damn piece of shit horny frogs. Screw you.
Who should I root for!?
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
He’ll still be committed to us longer than anyone else.
It’s like this… Grant and Oregon were in a long term relationship, but he kinda got bored. He decided that this new team named TCU was kinda cute, and had some good things going for it. He’ll try it out, and he’ll be happy… but really… he won’t be happy, and he’ll remember the good times we use to have.
He’ll try to come back to Oregon, but he’ll see we made something of ourselves. We’re still hot and sexy, and we have a great personality. And we got a great new player who’s treating us well, and won’t ditch us. We’ll be everything a player would want in a team. Grant will end up sad and in the CFL, bouncing from team to team knowing what there could have been years and years down the road. He’ll never really be happy again.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
Even in jest, I don't think anyone should get the idea that Grant is screwing himself here.
He’s got offers all around, and he liked Oregon until he realized he could be a starter at TCU quicker than he could at Oregon. There’s nothing wrong with that in the least. I’m sure we all wish him the best of luck. He’s going to be great wherever.
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Flagged for being a party pooper.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
by JShufelt on Dec 8, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t wish any ill will towards the guy. I’m sure he’s a great kid, and is just making the choice he wants. He’s a talented guy, and he’ll make a team happy. I seriously doubt he’s going to be a failure at TCU (Or any other school he might commit to).
But I don’t think there was anything I wrote that was particularly offensive. It’s a parody of a stereotypical hollywood script and on the term “commitment” itself.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
No, of course not.
I understood your post was in jest and was particularly in the mode of the vanity of sensationalist college football. Totally understood, I laughed. I just was making the point that TCU has great coaching that I think will use him well. It’s my opinion that Ethan Grant is a special athlete who I think would have been terrific for us. I think he’ll be great at TCU as well.
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Now with even more vitriol.
Get logic out of here.
ATQ, is good for a few things….Beer speak, PANICCC!!! FOCUS!!!! And blatant lack of logic!
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
I have never seen people get so worked up about a three-star player with a limited skill set.
You guys need to lay off the Madden.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
4 STAR! HE IS A 4 STAR THAT IS FFAASSTT
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
The only serice that matters...Mine
(Rivals has him as a 4 star), has him as a 4 star!
This is the biggest travesty we have experienced in years! A recruit switching his verbal? Unheard of!
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
CaDuck,
Did you forget your meds today? Settle down. I’m sure this isn’t the first recruit to switch his verbal (more less one from across the country). Oregon is going to be fine, Barner, James, plus any others picked up this year or even next will fill in just fine.
Really, with James and Barner playing the way they are, how much time would he have seen in the next two years? So when both James and Barner are Juniors (mind you, two more years of recruiting from now) I am confident that Campbell and Kelly will have a replace lined up.
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Plus he doesn’t have a catching nickname:
J Stew
J.J.
LGB
LMJ
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
catchy*
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
J-Grant…No, that does not work.
LaEth…No, 0-for-2
LE…Damn, no luck either
He would have had to go into the “other” category. I’m looking at you Remene and Kenjon
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Sarcasm alert...
Repeat…Sarcasm alert.
Honestly though, I thought it was rather clear that I was being ridiculous on purpose. C’mon man
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Sarcasm aside, the question still stands: DID YOU FORGET YOUR MEDS TODAY?
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I sooldd mye meed ssfor ccccold haaurd cashjkg
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
still trying to get Rose Bowl tickets are ya?
I LaLove my Ducks. Best way to start a new decade imaginable... Oregon in the Rose Bowl January 1st!!!!!
Haha...
I had to give up on that quest. Maybe Next year. Next year the Rose Bowl tickets will be mine I tell you!
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
You can go to the 2010 Rose Bowl if you want…
I’ll be watching Oregon at the Fiesta bowl.
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that's too bad
I’m going to Glendale next year, too. Only I’ll be watching Oregon in the NCG. I don’t know who you’ll be watching in the Fiesta Bowl.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
touche
I LaLove my Ducks. Best way to start a new decade imaginable... Oregon in the Rose Bowl January 1st!!!!!
Oh, I see how it is...
Oregon will share the Pac-10, and not make the Nat’l championship because of Nebraska again. Who do you want to see? Georgia Tech vs Pitt?
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Damnit, I hate it when I miss the sarcasm button…
I LaLove my Ducks. Best way to start a new decade imaginable... Oregon in the Rose Bowl January 1st!!!!!
We have all been there :)
On the wrong side of the sarcasm button…
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Stars aside - I'd say as much as you may feel I'm overselling Grant, I find you to be underselling him.
And, I’d say you and I have been equally very excited about Grant being a Duck to this point. I think it’s a little harsh, now that he’s unofficially a Horned Frog, to categorize him simply as a “three-star player with a limited skill set.”
Just my $.02 on the matter.
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Well, I wouldn’t say that we’re both equally high on Grant. When I first heard about him I was excited. Again, like everyone else, because of speed. But I haven’t been all that high on him since probably about the start of the season. In all likelihood, he wouldn’t see much playing time for 2012, if then.
At this point, we have every reason to believe that the Ducks will get other running back recruits that have as much if not more potential to succeed in our offense.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
The fact that he will never be happy again does not make me happy.
He is throwing his life away (hypothetical and hardly serious, of course) by not playing for UO. This makes me even more sad. He had an opportunity, a scholarship, he was recruited by Oregon first, and he throws it all away…Poor kid
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
It must of been those new uniforms TCU wore against Utah!
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
I blame the spread offense
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Clearly you guys have not watched many chick flicks in your lives.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
No, I have not.
All I know is that they always have the same plot involving Peirce Brosnan, or Matthew McConaghey (Spelling?). Some guy and a girl hate each other at first, fall in love, the guy blows it…Then comes up with the obligatory strange plot to get her heart back; and always does…
Ethan hated us at first, we were green dirty Obama loving freedom hating hippies. Then, he saw us for our awesome football program, innovation and speed like none other.
Now he sees a hot little lady sitting across the bar, and hooks up with her. We are of course pissed off.
By your logic Shu, he will come up with some chick flick-esque plot to attend UO. I hope like hell you are right SHU!!!!
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Pierce Brosnan or Matthew McConaghey? Hugh Grant wants to have a word with you.
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Hugh Grant, is he realted to Ethan? Can we ask him why Ethan Grant decided to switch commits?
I LaLove my Ducks. Best way to start a new decade imaginable... Oregon in the Rose Bowl January 1st!!!!!
Awwww, I knew there was another terrible british actor I forgot,
Damn you Hugh Grant!
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
I don't see any way Harbaugh goes to ND
He has a sweet deal in Stanford and he knows it.
Its not like he needs the $.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
In the bay area, that money does not actually go that far….
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
But he has a ton of $
From his NFL career I’m sure.
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Palo Alto not to mention.
A million dollar home there would be a crapshack
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Stanford provides it’s coaches with homes.
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
I need to get a job at Stanford.
The cost of living would be awesome, no Mortgage!
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Wouldn't hurt my feelings if he did...
I can’t stand him and his antics, but the guy comes up with great gameplans. He’s got my respect.
The road to Pasadena goes through Autzen...and the Ducks have punched their ticket to THE ROSE BOWL!!!!
The academics argument on the playoff is a crock
NCAA tournament? Seriously. Its AFTER finals.
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ND doesnt' return our calls
Love Bellotti calling him out.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
HAHA!
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
That was a veiled slap at the rest of the conferences though
Saying that Oregon, and other Pac-10 teams, don’t shy away from tough NC games.
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Made Oregon looks good there. Said something like, “home and home with Tennessee and Georgia coming up. We play teams like Michigan, Oklahoma, Wisconsin.”
Then he said, “Chip Kelly will play any team in the nation.”
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
The only reason we even have Portland State next year
Is Central MIchigan bailed, I think, which is weird since you’d think they’d need the $.
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Won’t they’ll be losing their star QB? They probably don’t want to be exploited on TV.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
They're a minor conference team
The deal is you take your whipping for a lot of $.
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You know…I’m also to the point where I’d rather we schedule patsies. There is no reward anymore. Here’s the formula:
Preseason top 5 in BCS conference + easy NC sch = undefeated = NC game
If we lose to Tenn next year and finish 11-1, but Kansas finishes 12-0 and plays NOBODY, everyone will say “you CANNOT keep an undefeated Big 12 Champion out of the NC game.” Maybe we need to be that team that they say, “you CANNOT keep an undefeated Pac 10 champ out of the NC game, even if they did play Portland State, PCC Rock Creek, and George Fox.”
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
I took a class there once, that’s the only reason I always use that in my cupcake school examples.
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Too funny! I typed Linfield instead of George Fox, then thought, “oh wait, they are in the semi-finals. Bad example.”
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
ND
2009 Apple Cup champions, beating both UW and WSU.
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I’d guess a lot of teams won’t return our calls.
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
I think they will start too
If we can win the Rose we will start to become a big program that is nationally respected. Once you get that, its no longer bad to schedule us.
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i think its the opposite
Teams don’t want to play good teams. Look at the nonconfrence games of FL, UT and Bama. Did they have any troubles getting into the NC game because of their week ass schedule, nope. We now have to schedule cup cakes and win all our games.
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But it helps prepare us for the big boys
Btw, Bama did beat Virginia Tech in their first game.
I agree that I would like one guaranteed NC win a year at least. Unlike this year where we had 0 and our only guaranteed win all year was probably vs. WSU.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yup. They aren’t using any kind of strength of schedule to determine if TCU or Texas should play. They are going purely on Texas is from BCS conference and TCU isn’t.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
The computers do somewhat, but I mean the poll voters.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
But the computers solve themselves
If you win.
After a while if you’re undefeated your computer rankings will be high too.
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Totally agree. If we go 11-1 next year with a loss at Tenn, but, say, Cincinnati goes 12-0, people will say you can’t put an 11-1 team in over a 12-0 team when they are both from BCS conferences.
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Part of it depends on where you start in the rankings
If we start getting ranked pre-season top 10 we won’t need impressive NC wins to move up, we’ll just need to keep winning. Worked for Texas, Florida and Bama.
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Exactly. We’ll be preseason top 10 next year.
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
what about cinncy
they were not ranked high in preseason and they made it to what 5? Yes they are not in the NC game, but would they be if they started in the top 5. ahhhh, no. I hate it, but there is absolutely no reason for a team with NC or BCS at large hopes to schedule hard games. Just dont have too, all you have to do is win conference games, all of them.
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Its a conference perception issue
And a team issue too. I think had USC gone undefeated it would have passed Texas but we would not have.
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and how many times do we actually see more than 2 undefeated teams? usually that’d be a pass.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
This is only the second time
In the BCS history, maybe the third, with two undefeated teams in the NC game. And the 5 remaining undefeateds is a record.
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very true
I wonder what the average age of the voters is. Old guys dont like oregon
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I don’t agree. I think that in the minds of a lot of voters, our resume would have significantly bested Texas, and we’d be very closer in the polls. And we would be significantly ahead of them in the computers, giving us the nod over them
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Bellotti is on ESPNU now. Making the rounds.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:25 AM PST reply actions
nice. thanks. is he showing up on SportsNation or Scott Van Pelt Show?
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No idea. I stumbled into this appearance.
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Showing LGB punch like 10 times.
He can run, he can pass, he is sicker than e-coli. Jeremiah always keeps things rolling.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 8, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
its strange that everyone thinks he was the difference. whatever. i wonder if this is a reward for MB? or if Chip is tired of answering the same dumb questions.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Masoli has no ACLs? what?
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
some dude gave him daps w/ his chin.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Fist bump that missed.
"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.
he was so disappointed that his first fist bump was unsuccessful, he then decided to fist bump anyone within fist bump-reach the rest of the night.
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by NEP on Dec 8, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
wanted to share
On my way to work I passed an old lady jogging in an oregon rose bowl sweater from 94. Go ducks for sure
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by trumpetduck on Dec 8, 2009 11:42 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Slightly OT
But PSU just hired Nevada’s DC as their new head coach. GO VIKS!
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this will depress Canzano
he was pimping the Willamette coach really hard.
those who do not remember history should read my blog...
The ath dept *should* make at least some effort at a Masoli heisman campaign.
If they don’t, the media will split the Heisman attention between JM and LMJ, and some loser named Rodgers will win it.
those who do not remember history should read my blog...
I'm not in hell, but I think it just froze over
Phil Steele gives Oregon some Love
Masoli, James, Dickson and Thran all made first his team honors. Guess Steele was tired of his weekly diet of crow
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I love his pick for Boyett 2nd team. He’s probably the only “expert” that noticed him.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
our defense is so “team” oriented that it will surprise me if anyone gets recognition other than the corners for individual stats. Speaking fo which, given his steady play all year, I’m a little disappointed TJ3 didn’t get any mentions in Steele’s or the Pac honors
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That's tough...
As much as we think the Stanford and OSU passing success was related to great passes and great receiver play, TJ3 got victimized an awful lot in those games. Whether or not anyone agrees that his technique was fine, a better cornerback would have made some of those plays.
No offense to TJ3, that’s just the way it is.
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I really don’t agree with this. There are almost no CBs that make those plays. He was 6th in the conference in pass breakups, and 4th in INTs. He did an excellent job playing a lot of man coverage this year.
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But Trufant of Washinton got honorable mention in the Pac… really? You’re telling me Trufant statistically or overall play wise was better this year?
I’m not saying TJ3 needed to be first team, there are some really good corners in the Pac this year, and honestly, WT3 would have had a hard time cracking the top even healthy. But not even a mention while 2 USC CB are in there and Trufant? Come on.
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Especially when TJ3 was one of the main reasons our pass defense was so good.
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not to mention he was the cog in the pass defense wheel that was riddled with injuries and still ended up 3rd overall in the Pac 10. WT3 – out, Glasper – out, Ward – out 4-5 games.
Who else was back there shutting guys down? Lewis – (I think he just got another PI called on him), Boyett was good – but split time with Ward, Harris – not even I would try and defend that, Gildon – puhlease..
TJ3 is my vote for the Rodney Dangerfield award – No Respect
I LaLove my Ducks. Best way to start a new decade imaginable... Oregon in the Rose Bowl January 1st!!!!!
Guys, let’s try not to be big homers here. First of all, read what I wrote – it’s not that he’s not good. It’s that there’s a perception, fair or not, that he got torched against Stanford and, to a lesser extent, OSU. Could other CBs in the conference have made those plays? You say no, but how can you be sure? I certainly think it’s possible that another cornerback could have made a couple of those plays. If TJ3 had made one great play in each of those games, yeah, I think he’d deserve to be on there.
TJ3 had a solid season, and was certainly a quality CB, even more so because of his contributions to a depleted secondary, but I don’t think the Pac 10 voters should give him extra credit because Thurmond and Glasper got hurt. We, as fans, can give him extra credit, but I’m not surprised that he didn’t get it from other sources. As for him compared to other CBs, I have no idea. I don’t know how good most of the others were.
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As for him compared to other CBs, I have no idea. I don’t know how good most of the others were.
Isn’t that what we are talking about? Compared to other DB’s, isn’t that what conference voting is about? Sorry, I may be confused on your argument. Mine was that compared to other DB’s in the Pac 10, I think TJ3 got the short end of the stick in voting.
Now, was he perfect, of course not… my goodness if any defensive position is going to get exposed, it’s going to be the corner, not to mention a corner in Aliotti’s system, not to mention a corner in Aliotti’s system playing with a lot of replacements and is matched up on the other team’s #1 guy most of the time.
You may talk about the plays against Furd and OSU, I’ll talk about the plays at UCLA and against Cal and USC where he made great reads. I think pointing to a couple of plays against the league’s most accurate passers and representing that as something more on the whole is not taking into account the greater body of work, which is exactly what I think the voters did.
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It’s that there’s a perception, fair or not, that he got torched against Stanford and, to a lesser extent, OSU.
This, in my mind, is a totally unfair perception, and simply continues to prove that fan perception is almost always wrong.
Here’s the key with TJ3. How many times was he beat? There were times when other WRs got a step on him, but he was rarely (if ever) really beaten. How many times last year did we see receivers get WIDE OPEN. When TJ3 was on a receiver, this simply did not happen. When you combine that with the fact that he played absolutely stellar pass defense inside of ten yards, his success on the long passes become that much more impressive.
His pass defense was main reason that the Ducks led the league in yards per attempt, and was 3rd in opponent passer rating. When you’re easily the best pass defender on arguably the best pass defense in the conference, and you don’t get any mention on the all conference teams, well, somethings wrong.
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I think this is a "problem" Oregon's D is going to face in conference voting
There were times when other WRs got a step on him, but he was rarely (if ever) really beaten
Sure TJ3 gets beat some times, but it’s on double moves that take the WR a long time to get open, and Oregon’s zone blitz schemes are going to continue to not let teams have that time.
I really don’t foresee many Oregon D guys getting conference honors because it is such a team approach. The secondary relies on the front 7 to create pressure, the d-line relies on the LB’s to cover TE’s and short routes and make the QB go thru reads and the LB’s rely on the d-line to take on lineman to create space for their speed to win.
No one guy or area is ever going to stand out on this team as “dominant” and all conference worthy. Just when we thought Rowe was the man, teams started doubling him allowing Pleasant to get at the QB. Shut down Pleasant and here comes Matthews. Keep extra guys in to block and Boyett/Lewis/TJ3 will make a play on the ball.
Canfield and Foles showed that to exploit the D you have to use short accurate quick read routes or make perfect throws deep even with good coverage.
Personally, I just love how this defense is coming together, but they will not get the attention they deserve individually.
Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Ohio State..just another OSU.
What I love about this D is how they almost shut down the short passing game. And even while shutting that down, the CBs had to be beat by very very good passes to get beaten deep. There were just very few times of truly broken coverage.
As much as some fans will complain, this is the best Duck passing defense we’ve seen this decade, and it’s been a joy to watch.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I think this is being a bit of a homer. It doesn’t matter whether or not you get “beat.” It matters whether or not the man you’re covering catches the ball. The simple fact is that guys caught the ball while he was guarding them, and that was very evident in the Stanford and OSU games. Can you deny that a better cornerback might have made a play on those balls that went over his head and were caught by his man? We’ve discussed ad nauseum about the way he’s been coached to play the position, and it’s not “wrong.” But because of it, he couldn’t or didn’t make big plays when Oregon really needed them to be made (at least in the Stanford game).
Maybe that’s a tad unfair, but it’s reality. Also, as we’ve discussed, the Oregon defense was arguably the best pass defense in the country because of the team. Greatly improved linebacker play, schemes where fast D-Linemen dropped into zone coverage, good coverage by the safeties (especially Boyett at the beginning of the year). I don’t think TJ3 stood out as especially great. He was good, and that’s just fine. And by that I mean that I can completely see why he wasn’t voted any Pac 10 honors, even without having analyzed the other CBs in the conference. I would be surprised if there WEREN’T 5 or 6 CBs better than he was. That would still put him in the top half of the conference.
It’s no slight on TJ3. I just think we should listen to ourselves when we say that Oregon’s success this year was the result of a consistent TEAM effort and not because of incredible individual talent.
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Ugh....
It matters whether or not the man you’re covering catches the ball. The simple fact is that guys caught the ball while he was guarding them, and that was very evident in the Stanford and OSU games.
First off, the all conference honors are for play over the whole season. It’s a simply terrible idea to harp on the handful of failures of one player. You want to nitpick? Please, go start watching the tape from the rest of the all conference team. I guarantee you’ll find as many mistakes among the other contenders. (For example, Taylor Mays, who may have ended up one of the most overrated players in all of college football).
Can you deny that a better cornerback might have made a play on those balls that went over his head and were caught by his man?
This is a terrible argument. A “better” cornerback may have made plays on those balls, but there is no reason to think that the other cornerbacks in the Pac-10 were significantly better (and believe me, they’d have to be significantly better to make those plays) to the degree that they could have made those plays.
I don’t think TJ3 stood out as especially great.
I don’t really know what makes you think this. He was by far our best cover defensive back. He almost always covered the best receiver for the other team. He was beaten a handful of times, but he also made countless plays throughout the season.
What’s just so insane about this entire situation, is that these judgments are literally being made over 5 plays over the course of two games. That is just ridiculous, even when you throw out the part where the coaching staff put TJ3 in those situations for a reason.
The simple fact is that every corner is beat, and fairly often. TJ3 got beat a few times, but he also had a number of big plays. He was easily the most consistent player in the secondary. He has the stats to back that up.
Was he top 4 in the conference? That’s debatable. But he deserved at least an honorable mention. It’s a joke that he didn’t get that.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Let's stop talking about the plays he didn't make against Fud and OSU
Let’s just take a trip down memory lane on what he did do:
Boise St:
Young- Season ave 13.65yds/rec 74.5 yds/game
versus Oregon 9.2/rec and 46/game
Purdue
Smith – Season ave 12.09/rec and 92/game
vs Oregon – 17/rec and 68/game
Utah
Reed – Season ave 14.47/rec and 90/game
vs Oregon – 9.6/rec and 48/game
Cal
Jones – 16/rec and 51/game
vs Oregon 14/rec and 14/game
WSU – who cares
UCLA
Embree – 13.49/rec and 60/game
vs Oregon 10/rec and 50/game
Washington
Kearse – 17.32/rec and 72/game
vs Oregon 36.5/rec and 73/game
USC
Williams – 14.16/rec and 75/game
vs Oregon – 11/rec and 82/game
ASU
McGaha- 12.1/rec and 58/game
vs Oregon – 9/rec and 45/game
AZ
Criner – 13.47/rec and 48/game
vs Oregon – 18.6/rec and 93/game
and for shits and giggles…
Stanford
Owusu – 18.47/rec and 55.4/game
vs Oregon – 27.75/rec and 111/game
OSU
Rodgers – 11.5/rec and 84/game
vs Oregon – 13.9/rec and 139/game
Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Ohio State..just another OSU.
As you can see
outside of OSU, Stanford and Arizona he basically kept the number one reciever either under their season average in yards/reception of yards/game.
I think it is really unfair to pick a couple of plays from a couple of games against the top QB’s in the league and apply that to the entirety of work he did all season… which by the way is what the All conference voting should be about.
Plus, I really don’t think after looking at the stats that we are being to big of homers whatsoever.
Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Ohio State..just another OSU.
Well yeah,
But he got beat this one time, so he is clearly terrible. Not even mediocre corners ever get beat, and TJ3 did once, perhaps twice. He obviously looks like a D-3 player out there. He never intercepted clutch passes against UCLA, and of course never completely shut down WR’s for USC with great pass break-ups or any of that!
P.S-MattDaddy, your sarcasm detector is a bit, we will say off. SARCASM ALERT
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
I watched the Arizona game last night. TJ3 and TJW both played a stellar game.
Most of the big plays by their receiver were done when there was miscoverage (The goal line pass, TJ Ward had no front man covering the bubble screen. One of the OLB were out of position) or it was a physical advantage over Cliff Harris.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-V-I-O-L-A-T-E-D"
there is no defense for the perfect pass.
i felt that the passes and catches against stanford would not have been stopped by anyone. luck kept throwing amazing passes and his wrs just kept making even better catches. that is what i remember thinking while i watched the game.
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by joffthedeckk on Dec 8, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
I really am not too worried about the pac-10 awards.
Thankfully, Chip Kelly shares my views; and actually maintains focus on football.
We are getting too worked up about these. TJ3 may or may not have gotten shafted, there are great corners this season in the pac-10, Verner, Ross etc…TJ3 may win it next year; I am going to maintain my state of PANIC prior to the Rose Bowl.
Our collective lack of productivity has clearly paid off in the grandest of fashion. We are going to Pasadena. Yes, let that sink in. WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. To be honest, this has not yet hit me-WE ARE GOING TO PASADENA. Wow.
Juju, We applaud your devotion and pure decency throughout the season.
Found this thru a post on BtD
God bless Paul Wulff, his ballot is almost hilarious (except for the fact he voted Oregon #4). So did Harbaugh, but voting Stanford #12? Lzstly, Brian Kelly voting Cinci #1, got to love the stones on that one.
Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Ohio State..just another OSU.
oh and by the way even Jim Tressel thinks Oregon is better than anOSU
Oregon State, Oklahoma State, Ohio State..just another OSU.
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