Roundtable: Pac-10 Roundtable - The "A day late and a euro short" edition
Insert some sort of witty comment here about roundtables, blah blah blah. Here we go.
1. B-Ball: It is probably not going to happen this year, but how long until you think OSU will be competitive and make a tourney or two?
Depends on the tourney but they may have an outside shot at the NIT this year! What a difference a year makes. They've got some work to do to make it but I think they've got an outside shot to make it happen. Coach Rob has already gotten some top level recruits in the bag. I'm predicting two years and we'll see the Beavs make the big dance.
2. Four Pac-10 schools have first-year head coaches this season. At the halfway point of the Pac-10 season, it seems as if OSU's Craig Robinson is faring the best. How long do you think he stays in Corvallis?
Corvallis is a weird town man. Unless you need a job, people just go there and get sucked in. They have all these quirky little shops and places to hang out and dang it, people actually LIKE to work at Oregon State! I know there is a lot of concern about Craig Robinson leaving but you know, he may be in it for the long haul. Bob DeCarolis has cemented Riley. Can you imagine the nation's First Coach starting to quote Joe Pa? I'm not sure if OSU is a stepping stone or not. We'll see what happens when DeCarolis has his contract expire. That gives them a few years at least.
3. (To be answered after signing day) Which one football recruit in your schools incoming class has a chance to make an impact for your team next season?
The sexy pick would be to go Dante Jackson or Cliff Harris. For me, I'm taking Bryson Littlejon, JC linebacker from Sierra. 6'2", 230, runs a 4.5 40. He comes in with good experience with 2 years to play 2. He will be playing right away in some capacity.
4. Grade your university's hoops team based on pre-season expectations... What went right? What went horribly wrong? What has been surprising?
C- - I know what you are thinking. How can we give this team anything above an F?! I'll tell you why I give them a C-. Because they are only 1-2 spots below where most people picked them to finish. They may not win any games which would dip the grade down further but right now, they are just below expectations. I think the most surprising thing is just how uncompetitive the team seems at times. We all knew it would be a rough season but the magic number for 0-18 is shrinking by the game. No one thought we wouldn't win anything! To be honest, I'm surprised the team still plays hard. They are still out there, giving a go at it and there's a good lesson in that. What went right? Just like every year, the "Fire Ernie" people came out...right on schedule. Although this year they may get their wish.
5. College baseball has gotten a lot more pub the last few years from national media outlets. The upcoming season will mark the first time in 26 years that the Pac-10 will actually have 10 teams competing in baseball. Tell us why you are happy to see Oregon fielding a baseball team for the 2009 season!
I'm not as pumped up as a lot of people are about baseball. I still haven't jumped on the baseball bandwagon. Living in Oregon, you really don't get to see much in the terms of really good baseball and I'm not much of an MLB guy. As we get closer though, it has been getting more exciting, even for me. The new stadium is nearly complete, the team is out practicing on the field and the Autzen Complex looks extremely impressive with the new park. Having the Pac-10 be full in any sport is a good thing in my opinion. It helps the State of Oregon, it helps the conference, and it even helps the Beavers and their program get more visibility with the Civil War in Portland.
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Totally!
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; "In other news, Ropert was mauled by a velociraptor yesterday and sustained a life-threatening ACL injury and a pulled hamstring."
We knew this year was going to be rough...
But this is depressing enough I didn’t even care to watch the game (which says something, because I’m not in Oregon so can’t be too picky). I wasn’t even furious that FSN Rocky Mtn didn’t even show the Civil War a couple weeks ago.
It’s apathy, and it sucks, but isn’t this what was expected, too? Maybe not this bad, but I figured it’d be tough. I wish there were more signs of being competitive.
As for baseball…the whole situation still kind of rubs me the wrong way, but that can’t be held against the players. And I like baseball! I wish I was still in school. It should be fun once the weather turns.
Best. Avatar. Ever.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; "In other news, Ropert was mauled by a velociraptor yesterday and sustained a life-threatening ACL injury and a pulled hamstring."
100,000 times yes.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; "In other news, Ropert was mauled by a velociraptor yesterday and sustained a life-threatening ACL injury and a pulled hamstring."
Craig Robinson stays three years
Does what he has to do, and leaves as soon as one of the big jobs and big money opens up. It’s not that he’s a bad person, it’s just there may be better opportunities, HOWEVER…
Given that he has shown the ability to recruit well to Corvallis with a lackluster team, one has to wonder what he’ll be able to do when the team is finishing in the top part of the Pac-10 and making tourneys. Maybe he’ll decide that he wants to build something special here. But I fear that a guy doesn’t move from Brown University to stay at Oregon State. Mike Riley is a different situation entirely— he is a Corvallis native and is humble in his ways. Craig Robinson seems like the guy who wants to prove himself, and going to a big school may just be that way to do it.
I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by The VD Special on Feb 10, 2009 12:03 AM PST reply actions
Plus...
He’s an East Coast guy. I see him wanting to get back to that area. Especially since he wore that Princeton scarf to inauguration. ;)
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Feb 10, 2009 7:07 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The same could've been said about Chip Kelly until we made a hard push at holding him here.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; "In other news, Ropert was mauled by a velociraptor yesterday and sustained a life-threatening ACL injury and a pulled hamstring."
True
Don’t underestimate the ability of the state of Oregon to draw people in and keep them here. See: Californians.
by Doug-e-Fresh on Feb 10, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
Oregon $ does not equal Oregon State $
I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by The VD Special on Feb 10, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Not necessarily money, but any sort of lure.
Because Robinson is already an HC, that pitch is not doable, but maybe the possibility of AD or just a pitch of building a program, maybe Gill Coliseum, Ralph Miller Court, Craig Robinson… Fieldhouse? I don’t know, any sort of pitch with his name in lights. I of course don’t know what the guy wants, but if you can make some sort of impressionable promise or something, you could keep him around.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; "In other news, Ropert was mauled by a velociraptor yesterday and sustained a life-threatening ACL injury and a pulled hamstring."
There’s a big difference between New Hampshire and Ivy League schools. Robinson may want to stay, but it just feels like his situation is different from Kelly’s.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Of course it's different,
But what’s the difference besides academic prestige? They’re both east coast guys from east coast schools, they both had been at their respective schools for some time. They’re also schools that they had success with in bringing to competitiveness.
I think that by saying Princeton is more prestigious doesn’t quite constitute an idea that the situations are all that different.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; "In other news, Ropert was mauled by a velociraptor yesterday and sustained a life-threatening ACL injury and a pulled hamstring."
Umm…Robinson had been at Brown for two years. Before that, he’d been at Northwestern for 6. Before that, he was in finance. He never actually coached at Princeton. I also don’t think the athletics traditions of Princeton offer anything for him. But growing up in Chicago, going to an Ivy League schools really gives you a lot of opportunity and gives you things Corvallis (and Oregon) cannot offer.
While Kelly (and Mike Riley) seem to like that atmosphere of Oregon as a state, and Kelly hadn’t moved around much as a coach, with Robinson’s background of moving careers and jobs, I seriously doubt he wants to stay at OSU for the long term.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Where was it said that Chip Kelly "likes the atmosphere of Oregon as a state"?
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; "In other news, Ropert was mauled by a velociraptor yesterday and sustained a life-threatening ACL injury and a pulled hamstring."
Nowhere. But New Hampshire is similar in a lot of ways to Oregon. Princeton/Chicago is not.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Uhh.. I guess so...
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; "In other news, Ropert was mauled by a velociraptor yesterday and sustained a life-threatening ACL injury and a pulled hamstring."
We flunked PAC 10 Men's B-Ball last year, so we know what it looks like to earn an F.
Right now, the ducks are flunking without a doubt. The only thing working to their advantage so far is that they are young and no one can read their names on their jerseys anyway because of that strange design nike set up for you guys.
Anyway, I’m just curious to see if the administration dumps Ernie or lets him have another year to grow his team a little more. Obviously these kids have abilities. They’re just a bad team right now. Definitely won’t last for long.
If they would've fired him...
it would have been three seasons ago, when Malik/Maarty/Bryce were sophomores and AB was having a mediocre year. Not living up to expectations then hurt a lot more than it does now.
Look what happened – AB blew up the next year, the team went to the Elite Eight, and last year the squad made it to the NCAA Tourney again. This year is a wash (but a Pac-10 win would be nice, I don’t want to go 0-for) but the axe is getting sharpened for next year.

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