Ernie Kent Punishments for Crittle, Dunigan and Williams Made Public

by dvieira on Apr 14, 2009 3:54 PM PDT in Oregon Ducks Basketball

The University of Oregon sent out a release today regarding the punishment handed down by Ernie Kent to Josh Crittle, Michael Dunigan and Teondre Williams. You may recall that they were up to some shenanigans at Alton Baker Park a couple weeks back. All three were assigned community service as part of team disciplinary actions. That punishment is in addition to whatever fine they may have to pay given the outcome of the misdemeanor charges against them. Ron Bellamy has a write up about it. Here's the meat of it...

--Crittle, Dunigan and Williams began working with Eugene's Greenhill Human Society last Friday.
--All three will also attend a Humane Education class.

Very good pick of an organization by Kent and crew. Given the nature of the crime, working with animals that haven't had an easy life of it seems like a good "parenting" move. That being said, the punishment could have been a lot worse for the three involved.

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Was the appropriate punishment handed down to Josh Crittle, Michael Dunigan and Teondre Williams?

Yes, Kent got it right

85 votes

No, the penality was too harsh

2 votes

No, they should have been punished more

31 votes

Let's take it to Judge Jshufelt on Shufelt's Court

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Not surprising but still, disappointing. Hopefully these organizations have their services for the rest of the time at UO because a short volunteer stint just doesn’t send any message at all other than you can volunteer your way out of trouble as an athlete.

Not attacking UO here either. This is a much bigger problem. Often times athletes are given a pass or preferential treatment and it’s annoying.

by ArbyOSU on Apr 14, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions

Come on….

What would have happened had normal students have done something like this? Most likely the exact same thing. Let’s not forget that this is just the team punishment, and and legal punishment will come later.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Apr 14, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions

I guess it all has more to do with the length of the volunteer assignment to me…

Slowly I’m coming to terms with the fact that athletic departments simply are not going to hold athletes to the high standards they should be held… agree to disagree (again)?

by ArbyOSU on Apr 14, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions

I guess it all has more to do with the length of the volunteer assignment to me…

Unfortunately, the length of the community service seems to be missing from the UO release although Bellamy said they (being the newspaper) is working on getting them.

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Apr 14, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions

I’m not sure, cause I don’t know what you want to happen? I think that this whole situation is pretty darn trivial. While animal abuse is definitely a horrible thing, I think that anyone that will have to spend any time around it (which they are going to), will (if they are a normal person) think twice about doing that ever again.

As far as high standards in general, I think that a bunch of college kids are under too much scrutiny as it is. They don’t get to live normal college lives. They get an MIP or a similar offense, and it’s a huge issue, even these activities are the norm on college campuses.

What needs to be avoided is a sense of entitlement. This is tough to overcome, obviously, but having ridiculously authoritarian policies are just as harmful as lax ones, and don’t help to make well rounded young men.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Apr 14, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions

There is another side of the coin that says they aren’t allowed to have “normal college lives” because they aren’t normal college students. Universities get to make money off them and in turn, the athletes get perks (nice workout facilities, special tutoring, etc) that “regular” students don’t get access to.

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Apr 14, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Bingo. It’s a mess. I don’t have the energy and it’s almost 5 but I agree with what you’re saying… it’s not necessarily right or fair, but hey, it’s college athletics.

by ArbyOSU on Apr 14, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, it definitely goes both ways, which makes it a very hard issue.

I think there are some things to get worked up about, and to limit (Eddie Pleasant’s behavior last year for one). As djp said below, shooting BB guns isn’t one of them.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Apr 14, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions

It's just about right.

Yes, they messed up. Yes, it was incredibly dumb (shooting at ducks of all things?!). Bad timing, etc, etc. But seriously, people are blowing this one a bit out of proportion.

They were shooting a bb gun in a park…at ducks. I’m pretty sure you can’t even kill a duck with a bb gun. Put out an eye? Sure, and that would be terrible for certain (I mean that; I actually love animals…hippy). I’m not saying that makes it right, but it’s not like they were shooting a .22, or even a pellet gun. If they were doing something that could have killed the ducks (essentially poaching), then I would be really pissed, personally, and the city would see it the same way…they would be punished much more harshly. As it stands now, I bet they get a fine and that’s about it (I believe they were cited for “violating park rules”). The cops let him shoot 20 bbs without saying anything for goodness sakes! Had any run-of-the-mill student done this, no one would ever hear about it.

/End apologist rant

by djp on Apr 14, 2009 4:44 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

I agree completely. If they were nonathletic students, just on academic scholarship, we would never heard of this

by westspec on Apr 15, 2009 5:03 AM PDT up reply actions

Make them wear the Roboduck costume around campus.

by grimc on Apr 14, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions

i love it

also hand out a few bb guns for students to use on them. overall i think the punishment is perfect.

by joffthedeckk on Apr 14, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions

...I don't want kids shooting BBs at our 4 star McDonald's All-American...

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.

by qrsouther on Apr 14, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions

If their aim is as bad as his free throw shooting, he has nothing to worry about.

by grimc on Apr 14, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions

have you

ever been shot by a bb gun? it doesnt do anything, it wouldnt get through the suit. that is the only reason why this whole ordeal is not a huge deal in my opinion.

by joffthedeckk on Apr 15, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions

I have a friend that was shot in the eye by a BB gun when he was a kid. Thankfully it did no longterm damage but they didn’t remove the BB. You can still feel it if you push on a certain part of his eye socket.

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Apr 15, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions

Anybody who invites their friends

to poke at a certain part of their eye socket to feel the BB he got shot with probably deserved getting shot in the eye with a BB.

by grimc on Apr 15, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Have you

…ever been the future of a basketball program that really, really needs something to look forward to?

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.

by qrsouther on Apr 15, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Admit it, VD Special has transferred his grumpiness to you.

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Apr 15, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions

But these blue balls are KILLIN ME!

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.

by qrsouther on Apr 15, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions

seriously

………

by joffthedeckk on Apr 15, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions

I don’t know if dressing silly is going to seem like a punishment to them. I mean, there were some UGLY b-ball unis this year… flower print? camo? just make them wear those.

And while this does come from a Beaver, I’m not flaming. I just think the two examples I’m throwing out there are particularly ridiculous and that MOST of you guys agree.

Oh, and what’s the deal with the transparent tape for the last names?

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 16, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions

A Follow up on the Punishments

More from Kent on specifics of the punishment is here. Apparently there is more to come. Also, very good information from Cary Lieberman, executive director for Greenhill Humane Society

http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/updates/11861428-55/story.csp

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Apr 14, 2009 10:06 PM PDT reply actions

Holy crap...

Cary Lieberman is my least favorite teacher’s husband…

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.

by qrsouther on Apr 15, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions

If she reads this you're flunkin' sir...

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09

by ArbyOSU on Apr 16, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions

At the end of last semester I absolutely kicked ass on an impromptu speech.

I talked about a “significant piece of art” in my life, and had been listening closely to the song “Sleeping In” by The Postal Service just that morning, so I did that. It was supposed to be 2 minutes long, concise, and well delivered. Nothin but net. I thought I did very well on it, as did my friends. She gives me back my roses and thorns and she gives me an 80% on it because it was 12 seconds too short. This dropped my grade in the class down to a B for the semester as well.

And she wonders why kids really don’t like her. She’s aware of it, but just doesn’t seem to get exactly why.

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.

by qrsouther on Apr 16, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions