A closer look at the Roper transfer and the QB situation
With Justin Roper getting his scholarship release last week, there was much speculation on his reasons for release. Well, today he spoke out regarding his reasons for transferring, so let's take a look over the QB position and what we can expect from the media, and from the position next season.
First of all, good luck to Justin. From all accounts, he's a wonderful person, and has been a great teammate over the past year. There is no fault in him looking to do what is best for himself, and I wish him the best, wherever that may be.
But Roper's transfer has brought out all manner of craziness, to such a degree, that yesterday, I actually praised John Canzano. Unfortunately, the Oregonian is at it again, and this time John Hunt is getting into the act, playing up controversy for the sake of controversy. Here's a paragraph that stuck out to me.
And you can't fault Kelly for wanting to keep Roper around. Roper knows the offense well, he throws the best ball on the team, and he has proven himself in big game.
Then later, this:
Kelly favors a quarterback who can pass and run, not a passer who can run a bit. Dennis Dixon, although not recruited by Kelly, was the prototype.
These types of comments are fairly commonplace, but shouldn't be accepted from the teams beat reporters, especially those that vote in the AP poll. In this piece, and in countless others like it, there is an underlying idea that passing is secondary, that it can be sacrificed in Chip Kelly's system for running. This by itself is laughable. But to play up the running versus passing debate by claiming the Roper threw the best ball of Oregon's QBs is either totally ignorant, or a flat out lie. It's an easy, but incorrect, story.
Roper, in my opinion, threw the worst ball out of any of our QBs over the spring. His release is slow, and his arm strength isn't there either. When he throws, he seems to go slow and steady in an attempt to control the accuracy, but sacrifices significant ball speed in the process. Unfortunately, this doesn't even help his accuracy that much. And while none of the QBs is perfect, all throw better looking balls than Roper. All have quicker releases with better strength.
So, as much as certain writers want to create this artificial controversy, there is none. The best quarterback will play for the Ducks. Right now, the best throwing quarterback is the starter. He just also happens to be a very good runner. Roper was a clear number two in both respects.
So, where does all this leave Oregon? Well, first, if Masoli goes down, for any extended period of time, it will get dicey. But due to Roper's strengths and weaknesses, he would have given the team a better chance to beat mediocre teams, but a worse chance to beat good teams. If Costa or Thomas plays, I feel that both, if things work out, have a much higher upside than Roper ever did. But with Roper, you knew what you were going to get. Thomas or Costa have the physical ability to be very successful as Oregon's QB, but both have their downsides.
What this means, is that if this season's goal is a Pac-10 title, Roper's transfer will most likely not affect that. I don't feel that he would possess the ability to beat the upper half of the Pac-10. With Costa/Thomas at the helm, we have a higher probability of winning those games, but also of flaming out. And you know what, I'll take that chance. I want our team to be put in a position to achieve it's highest goals, even if that means we have a higher chance of a spectacular implosion. Masoli, Thomas, and Costa all give Oregon a chance to succeed, and I feel good about all of them.
Good luck with your endeavors, Justin. You'll always be a Duck. Well, unless you transfer to Washington.
GO DUCKS!
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If Nate Costa’s knees hold up, I think that’s our best case scenario. I, like many others, was very excited to see him run the offense last season till he went down, and when healthy he has the tools to be an Oregon quarterback.
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I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Dwight Jaynes joins the stupidity. Why? Probably because it’s an easy article to write and doesn’t take any critical thought. What a moron.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Good lord...
seriously, if Jayne’s post would have come out yesterday, I would have derided that as well. I re-read it, and….simply terrible….
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I have seen this Roper NFL thing twice now
Really?! Am I the oonly one who laughs at this? NFL, like the 50 best QBs in the world? Come on now, he should be laughing at Masoli as a changer to his starting if he wants to be NFL bound. Not even close.
In reaction to his reaction to the CK quote, there are guys that understand they are not the starter and play their roll and improve their abilities. That is how you build depth. Not guys who have delusions of grandeur and think they are better than they are and deserve the world. I hope we are going after players willing to wait their turn and earn a starting spot through hard work everyday.
Sleeping under an avalanche with Cartman, wake me Sept 3.
I think Jaynes fell into the Chip Kelly Sarchasm with that Kansas reaction…
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I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Another great post from Jared
It’s so nice that we have thoughtful, objective, and educated writers at ATQ.
Just this morning I was reading another blog and was dumbfounded by the lack of research or factual basis of anything written.
"Oregon didn't have 694 yards of total offense, Oregon State had 694 yards of total DEFENSE."
The Tyrant Boy-King of UC-Eugene
They seem to do that alot over there.
To go out and ruin somebody's dreams like that, it feels real good," Oregon receiver Jaison Williams.
Roper, in my opinion, threw the worst ball out of any of our QBs over the spring.
Did you even watch the spring game with a comment like that? Seriously? There is no question that Masoli was the #1 guy but Thomas was throwing better than Roper? He had one big play where Ed Dickson turned completely around to make a play on an underthrown ball. That was it for the spring game. The scrimmages were not good for him either. Roper had several huge plays, hitting Harper in the endzone for a touchdown where only he could get it, a scramble play hitting a guy over the middle away from the defender and several good out routes. Thomas played almost the entire second half so it wasn’t an issue of playing time. Nate Costa hasn’t been in any full contact drills so are you basing your comment off of him sight unseen?
Your comment about Roper throwing the worst ball out of any QB this spring is just plain ludicrous in every stretch of the imagination. This comment makes no sense. He had a great spring, was clearly the #2 guy and you know it. The only way Thomas even makes it a competition is because of his scramble ability.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
I wasn’t clear enough, apparently. I was talking about mechanics. Roper’s are not good. He has a slow release. He doesn’t get good height on the release point. He did not get power behind his throws, as I mentioned above. These deficiencies are OK against bad teams, but even mediocre defenses can gameplan to stop the offense very easily, see the Purdue game last year.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
So I'm weighing in two days late...
I pretty much left my computer for a couple days and missed much of the excitement. Turns out Roper and Harper isn’t a big deal in Spokane.
My knee-jerk reaction to the “worst ball” comment was the same as Dom’s. But I totally buy the argument about mechanics. Roper’s are poor. In the spring game, Roper’s end results were far better than Thomas’ end results. Still, when you see them compete on the same field, it’s pretty clear that Thomas is a more refined passer and throws a better ball.
Though I’m bummed about loss of a potential red shirt for Thomas – unlike some others, I don’t believe Nate Costa’s in any position to even compete for the #2 spot – I do see a silver lining. To Jared’s point about mechanics, Thomas has serious upside. All he’s lacking is reps. At least that was my take away from the spring game. He’ll get more of those now with Roper out of the program.
Let the true development of Darron Thomas as a QB begin. Even if we only get only one senior year from him as a starter, it could be quite a year.
I'm really tired of it not being football season.
I would also say that when just talking about throwing the ball itself, Roper throws the worst ball. Now, he may have better results, and make better decisions, but at just flat out throwing the ball, he is worse than any of our other QBs.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
The results aspect is what I was thinking about but sorry for the tone of the post. Having a downright crappy day today and very much on edge. My apologies
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
Your comment was just plain ludicrous in every stretch of the imagination, making no sense, though. Speaking for the ATQ readership. We took a vote.
so you’re saying I was the Jshufelt option?
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
I don’t remember my name being Quinn…
I learn something new every day!
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Somebody else threw out Zooey Deschanel.
I was the Jenny Lewis fan.
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Amanda Pflugrad is the third or fourth hottest Oregon cheerleader.
Discuss.
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Speaking of. Where can we find cheerleader recruiting news? You think I’m kidding, but…
I'm really tired of it not being football season.
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It's spelled "T-A-K-I-M-O-T-S-C-H-M-O-E."
I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Couldn't this be a separate thread on a separate post?
I think we could get into a good discussion…
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
In so many words, Roper's strengths lied in his cerebral play and leadership skills.
The former of which was a no-show for a while last year.
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Year of the Duck
Good analysis!
I really think this is the Ducks year. I had a dream last week about a double overtime victory over Florida in the national championship. Then I half woke up, and in my lucid state embellished the story, parlaying a National Championship title into a media sensation, followed by the Ducks basketball team going deep in the NCAAs, and the baseball team playing .500 ball. Then the UO announces they will field a Division I men’s soccer team, and — building on the tradition of Track Town USA — turns the Duck side into a national powerhouse, running circles around the competition and further evolving the philosophy of Total Football. All while UO grows into an academic behemoth, attracting researchers and scholars with the sharpest acumen, catalyst for the transformation of Eugene as a cultural and intellectual hub in the Post-Singularity Age.
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