Morning Quack Fix: 5.7.09
by JConant on May 7, 2009 8:37 AM PDT
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Arrrrrggg. Sorry for the tardy Quack today. I blame my unusually unreliable internet connection. Here we go:
- Wait one minute! John Hunt says Oregon's signing of a JC point guard isn't complete yet.
- Malcolm Armstead's mom says no decision has been made about where her son will attend college. And what mom says goes.
- Uh oh, Chip Kelly and the Ducks have upset another writer with new policies regarding media contact. It's somewhat of a rehash of Moseley's issues, but veteran columnist Kerry Eggers of the Portland Tribune has some fair points.
- If you haven't done so lately, check out Scout's updated list of Oregon's 2010 football recruiting targets.
- I bumped into this from the Bleacher Report about Nick Aliotti, the Oregon coordinator the BR writers feel sometimes gets lost among Oregon's offensive reputation.
Other Sports:
- Is Oregon's Ashton Eaton becoming America's best young decathlete? Some people think so.
- Track Town USA is gearing up for severa showcase events.
- Ducks women's volleyball completed their spring exhibition season with a 3-set sweep of Oregon State. I thought I read the score was 65-38, but I'm sure that was a typo. No word yet on how many times Jeremiah Johnson scored.
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The media are the conduit between the fans and the team. The greater and easier access reporters have to the players and coaches, the better insight they can bring to you about the team, players and coaches you’re interested in.
What is this, the Catholic Church (no offense if you’re Catholic)? We as fans don’t need the media as they think. And for the most part, I could easily pass on the media “insight.” This reminds me a lot of a sports guy column from the other day, regarding players controlling the media.
I think it’s gonna take some time to digest what this actually means, but at this point, the media is not necessary like it was 20-30 years ago. It will have to adapt to survive. There is a demand for information, and that will be fulfilled in some manner, whether through old-school media outlets, or new outlets.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on May 7, 2009 9:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we’re seeing the effects of the university continuing to ramp up their brand management. The school specializes in sports/brand marketing and is aiming for the top of the hill in that respect.
Why?
Money. Plain and simple. Revenue from TV contracts, bowl contracts, advertising, merchandise sales, video game royalties, ticket sales, boosters. Money generated through the athletic department supports the academic growth of the school either directly or indirectly.
I’ve seen this in retail first hand. The most dominant brands – usually measured by market share – in any given vertical marketplace are by far the most restrictive in terms of brand control. Apple, Sony, Nikon, Bose (a more narrow niche player) in electronics; Nike and Burton in skate or snow gear and apparel [electronics and action sports are my two specific areas of expertise]. Their brand identity is their golden goose and they will control every aspect of how their brand is portrayed publicly. They can because they’re bigger than you. They can walk away from a relationship and feel no ill effects.
To Jared’s point, the old-school media is having a hard time with Oregon’s stance. The University of Oregon needs the mainstream media less and less.
Oregon’s policies are the result of an overarching brand management strategy. We’ve seen the actions, we’ve heard all the talk. The University of Oregon under Dave Frohnmayer is aiming for a new stature in every aspect of academic and athletic performance. I applaud him for that vision, When you consider the staggering numbers posted by Dom in his media piece yesterday about fundraising, it’s obvious that the message is being embraced and the agenda moving forward.
As a brand expands – sometimes via investment in things like giant billboards or countless uniform combinations, other times due to an improved product (football, track & field, new baseball team, new arena with more seats) – so do the opportunities to generate revenue through advertising, increased ticket sales, increased booster support (think back to your collective behavior sociology courses – when several give, others will to follow), and ultimately the big money from TV exposure and maybe being selected for over a conference rival for a slightly better bowl game because you travel well.
One perfect example of UO branding at work: Don’t think for a minute that the Ducks have all these uniforms because the players think it’s cool. It is a shtick that is uniquely Oregon. It’s brilliant marketing, resulting in an inordinate amount of extra exposure across all forms of media. It should be no surprise that many of us own a wider assortment of Duck gear than we may have a few years ago. Ask yourself, how much money have you spent on green, yellow, white or black apparel or accessories in the past three years?
I have purchased four hooded sweatshirts (one yellow, two green, one black), a Oregon branded Columbia jacket, Oregon branded sweatpants, one yellow t-shirt, one jersey. I am a football season ticket holder now for the first time in my life. I’ve had an O-Zone subscription for about two years. I regularly watch or listen to Oregon sports broadcasts. What does that mean to the university? I am a good customer and they want many more like me.
My three year (recency) value is about 3.3 purchases a year (frequency) at about $98 per purchase (monetary). That’s the language the marketing strategists at the U of O understand.
Oregon is a brand. Brands have value. Value has to be cultivated and harvested. In college sports, there’s none more valuable than Notre Dame. No doubt Oregon is looking to reach that level. Why shouldn’t they?
I worked in the print business for a few years, and yes, I’m bummed about what’s happening to newspapers. Good papers like the Register Guard or the Portland Tribune, and good reporters like Rob Moseley and Kerry Eggers, are going to get trampled or at least inconvenienced by the policies set by those charged with managing Oregon’s brand. Oregon may be a public university, but brand management is big business, not a public service. We could debate whether that’s appropriate or not, but in the end the Mighty Dollar wins the day at Mighty Oregon.
I'm really tired of it not being football season.
by JConant on May 7, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
That should have been a whole post :)
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on May 7, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On top of this….to the point that the University needs the media less and less, look at what they’re doing.
The coaches are blogging, they have a news/video website relating directly to the construction of Matt Court.
Hell, Joe Giansante is going to have a blog (WHICH I CANNOT F***** WAIT TO READ).
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on May 7, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First Post by Joe
Contrary to popular belief, I….my friends…am not an asshat!
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on May 7, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My other issue with Eggers is his statement: “The media exist for the public interest.”
Nonsense. The media exists to generate advertising revenue and drive profitable business.
The suggestion that U of O may be filtering their version of the news is also potentially flawed. Doing so would damage their credibility and thus their brand value. Not a good long-term strategy. The folks pulling the strings at U of O are smarter than that.
I'm really tired of it not being football season.
by JConant on May 7, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
great points
It is also important the take geography into consideration. UofO has to be more proactive in creating a unique and eye popping brand because it is tucked away in the NW. Oregon has been aggressive with its marketing and policies because it has to be, and it is working.
Sleeping under a avalanche with Cartman, wake me Sept 3.
by trumpetduck on May 7, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, it’s working because they are backing it up on the field as well. When you go for the outlandish but don’t back it up, you just look like fools. I cite the yellow helmets and black jerseys as examples. If we lost the Arizona game last year, everyone would have HATED the black jerseys. If we would have crushed BYU in the Vegas Bowl a few years ago, I’m almost positive that people would like the yellow helmets a lot more.
If Oregon hadn’t come out and had success on the field right after the brand launch, I’m not sure all of this would have stuck because people would have associated “new uniforms and brand” with “failure”
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on May 7, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. Classic case of risk-reward.
I'm really tired of it not being football season.
by JConant on May 7, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post.. Agree with 100% of what you said
But what annoys people (mainly Beaver fans, but I have heard from other Pac10 fans as well) is exactly what you said: Oregon has branded itself with gimmicks and flash, not actual results. Is it genius what they are doing in Eugene? Absolutely. I would hire any single person in their marketing department to come up with a new, innovative way to market my product/brand. But at the end of the day, that’s all it is. That is what frustrates me personally about the University of Oregon in regards to Oregon State. We have similar (I will concede that you have had better, but not by much, and not for much longer) results on the field, court, wherever, and yet Oregon hogs not only the local media’s attention, but the National media attention as well, and quite frankly, I don’t think it’s deserved.
You mention Notre Dame as being a major brand for college sports. I would argue that you could put Texas, or USC or Florida right up there. But they have done so by earning the right with what they produce on the field— not billboards in Manhattan or multiple jersey combinations that make people around the country scratch their heads.
Now, all that being said, I must say, that in these tough economic times, you are hearing all over the country of athletic departments needing money, and schools cutting back. Oregon State itself, as you all have probably heard, is struggling to make ends meet. It doesn’t seem that way with Oregon, as they are continuing to fund raise and improve facilities and what not. Does that mean that UO grads make more money than OSU grads? Absolutely not. It is just a simple fact that Oregon does a better job marketing itself to its customers. But my point is, at the end of the day, that when all that marketing leads to more hype and exposure athletically, rather than what is done on the field, that is what frustrates me the most.
…end rant
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by The VD Special on May 7, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One Small Quibble
Oregon has branded itself with gimmicks and flash, not actual results.
Remember Oregon’s rise through the 90’s was almost all without the new branding. When the turn of the century happened, Oregon’s football program specifically was making huge strides on the field and we saw some of our best years…right at the time the branding happened. I don’t think that was done by accident. Also, basketball around that time turned around. Ernie was just getting going in the program and had started to turn things around from where it had been previously. Jody Runge on the women’s side was driving the team to bigger and better things.
That Rose Bowl in 94 (and maybe even going back to the Independence Bowl in 89) set the stage for the rise. The branding wouldn’t have worked if the Ducks were the same team as they were in the 80’s. With success came marketing which came more attention to the success.
In my humble opinion, what pisses off the fans you mention isn’t the flash and gimmicks so much as it is the success combined with the marketing and attention to that success. If Oregon wasn’t successful on the field, people would laugh off the marketing, new uniforms, billboards as ineffective and ridiculous. At the end of the day, how do you compete on a branding level with the likes of USC, Texas, Ohio State and Notre Dame who all have this tremendous traditional history.
You have to do something different and Oregon did that. It upsets the traditionalists but as I mentioned before in this thread. There is a reason why Oregon fans hate the yellow helmets and love the black uniforms and it’s not because we have the most discerning artistic eye.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on May 7, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I respect a lot of VD’s points.
BOSE is a hugely popular brand. Many of the audiophiles I used to work with say their product is crap. People believe the hype.
To Dom’s point… Baseball is baseball. Fair or not, two national titles in college baseball just don’t add up to the same marketing value as the occasional New Year’s Day bowl game, some Holiday Bowl wins, regular nationally televised football games, a couple serious Heisman trophy candidates, top-10 finishes in football and Elite Eight appearances during March Madness. Notice I didn’t include Cross Country championships. They don’t amount to much, like baseball (and I love the game and appreciate how special OSU’s achievement was).
In recent history, Oregon has done some pretty good things on the field. They have a long way to go to catch Texas, Florida, Notre Dame and a few others. You have to start somewhere.
I'm really tired of it not being football season.
by JConant on May 7, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dominic is right with everything that he said, but I’ll add one more thing.
OSU has no right to talk about national attention when they continually SHIT THE FUCKING BED every time they get national attention, especially early in the season. Last year they did better with the USC and Cal wins, where the eyes of the nation were upon then, but that season also held the Stanford, PSU, and Oregon debacles.
Oregon’s big marketing push that started it all was Joey Harrington, and he came through like none other. The weight of all of this was upon him, and he took that responsibility, and followed through. Again, it was a massive risk, and it held a huge reward.
We’ve been through this a million times, but while OSU and Oregon have similar records over the last few years, how they have gotten to the end is totally different. Oregon has fallen apart in the end at times, but has also had very exciting seasons, such as 2005 and 2007. Hell, even 2006 was exciting for a while, before everything fell apart. But excitement is how you get national attention. Winning when the spotlight is on you is how you get it done. And in that case, there is no comparison between Oregon and Oregon State.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on May 7, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because I'm an Oregon State fan doesn't mean I don't have the right to discuss it and be annoyed by it
Take a look at Florida State, or Miami, for example. Hell, even a better example would be Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech has done nothing spectacular since the Michael Vick days. Yes, they have been good, but not great. The hype surrounding that program annoys me. Same with FSU and Miami, however I think those are bad examples because they have earned the right through past accomplishments.
All I’m saying is that there is no program who climbs higher, faster then the University of Oregon, and it is due to brand. Take this past year. Oregon and Oregon State had similar records. Yes, we shit the bed against Penn State and you. But you looked like shit against USC, and didn’t play well against Cal (weather conditions not withstanding) which was another ABC game. But all of a sudden, TWO good games to end the season and it’s “Oregon as dark horse for National Championship.” If on November 1st, Oregon is still undefeated, then I’ll start giving dues. But until then, Oregon is getting by on name.
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by The VD Special on May 7, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If on November 1st, Oregon is still undefeated, then I’ll start giving dues. But until then, Oregon is getting by on name.
If we truly are getting by on our name with a chance to be undefeated on October 31st, then our name means a lot. That means
We beat Boise State, a team that should have been in a BCS bowl last year, on their own field to start the season
We beat Purdue, a Big 10 team
We beat Utah, a team that beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl last year
We beat Cal, my personal pick to win the Pac-10.
Also mentioning beating Wazzu, Washington, and UCLA
All of that BEFORE we have USC at home. If we do all that, there is no way we are getting by on name. We would deserve to be in the top 5 of the country.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on May 7, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I'm saying-- Is if and when they are undefeated on Nov 1st, they will be ranked #1 or #2 in the country
Assuming of course, that some combination of Florida, Oklahoma, Texas and Ohio State aren’t undefeated as well
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by The VD Special on May 7, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I’m saying is that there is no program who climbs higher, faster then the University of Oregon
Really? Any traditional power will climb higher, faster than Oregon. Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama. I could list many teams. That is a totally absurd statement to make.
As far as dark horse for the national title, Ole Miss is in that discussion as well, along with Oklahoma State, so I think you’re getting a little wigged out over nothing. And you know why they get discussed, because when they got on the national stage late in the season, when their QB had some experience, they played very well. It has nothing to do with hype, but in fact (whether or not you want to admit it), based on what happened on the field of play. This has nothing to do with “brand,” and has everything to do with how Oregon grew as the season continued and flourished in the past few games.
As far as hype, I don’t really know what you define by hype. Oregon was picked to finish 3rd-4th in the conference last season. They finished 2nd. They finished the season, again based on on the field results, higher than their initial ranking. This isn’t hype. After Oregon crapped the bed in 2006 they were supposed to finish 5th-6th in conference the next season. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
Maybe you don’t like how the Oregon media gives Oregon more coverage, but that’s not hype. That’s a reflection of the basic fact that Oregon has more fans in the state of Oregon, as well as a much stronger history of football success.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on May 7, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any traditional power will climb higher, faster than Oregon. Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama. I could list many teams.
Agreed. Was in a hurry and didn’t think the argument out.
And where are the numbers that support that there are more Duck fans in Oregon? As far as I’ve seen, it’s split pretty even in Portland through to Salem, with Eugene having a majority Duck fans, but Eastern Oregon (especially rural) are mostly Oregon State.
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by The VD Special on May 7, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t have any numbers for Duck vs. Beaver fans, though I am assuming based on attendance numbers, etc. Not real scientific, but there is clearly a larger market and demand for Oregon football tickets than Oregon State.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on May 7, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I figured you’d say attendance numbers, and it’s hard to argue with that. But I’ve always said that it’s not easy (or cheap) for farmers to get out of podunk, drive 4-5 hours to Corvallis, and pretty much be gone for 2-3 days. I think if the population of Corvallis was 150,000 like Eugene, you might see similar numbers. I’m not arguing and there’s not way to quantify either, but it’s just a general hunch on the situation.
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by The VD Special on May 7, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as hype, I don’t really know what you define by hype. Oregon was picked to finish 3rd-4th in the conference last season. They finished 2nd. They finished the season, again based on on the field results, higher than their initial ranking. This isn’t hype. After Oregon crapped the bed in 2006 they were supposed to finish 5th-6th in conference the next season. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
What happens when Oregon State finishes 3rd? We are consistently picked to finish 6th or below the next year. It has happened the last three years.
Look, I’m not trying to sit here and debate that Oregon isn’t a good program. If I were to break the college football landscape, you’d have teams that have sustained success for long periods of time, and even though they have an off year or two, will always bounce back. Teams like USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Florida, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma in the top Tier. Then in the 2nd tier, I’d put teams that have periods of success with periods of non-success, teams like Oregon, LSU, Auburn, Virginia Tech, among others. Then in the 3rd tier, I’d put teams that are either A) on their way up (programs like Oregon State, North Carolina, Cal) and B) on their way down, but not quite obsolete (like Notre Dame, Colorado, Washington).
Maybe it’s just me. Maybe I’m just a bitter Beaver fan. Whatever the case, I feel that the hype is more so for Oregon than a lot of other schools, and it’s due to the marketing. That’s all
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by The VD Special on May 7, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me, that is an opinion driven by orange-colored glasses. I feel that on the whole, Oregon receives credit where credit is due, and is not covered when appropriate.
But compared to OSU, it seems that Oregon receives too much hype, mainly because for the past few years, OSU isn’t always given their due (I think that changed last year with the emergence of Quizz and the run at the Rose Bowl). But there are also reasons for that, including “poor” recruiting classes (though OSU is the only team in the country over the past few years to blow that out of the water, Oregon is about where they should be, maybe a tiny bit overachieving), and their spectacular early season implosions.
When you take Oregon on it’s own, I think that expectations on the program are justified…
Again,
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on May 7, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok well I think we’ve found a mutual ground. And the Oregon State blue collar v Oregon hype argument is never going to get solved. Although I agree with you on the topic about Quizz and Rose Bowl, as evidenced by one of, if not the best recruiting classes Mike Riley has had.
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by The VD Special on May 7, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh really?
Ok well I think we’ve found a mutual ground.
Nonsense! Get Malcolm Gladwell on the phone…He’ll figure this shit out!
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
by 071903 on May 7, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you think that Oregon had to keep chip kelly
The folks who run Oregon knew that they had no option, but to keep Chip Kelly. I love Belotti, but you could not let Kelly go. That offense is a huge marketing tool. It is sexy, fun, fast, and you are entertained watching it. Not to offend, but who wants to watch a 3-0 sun bowl. People want to watch a ton of points and big plays. Oregon gives people that. Once again proving why the rise of this program is done on the field. Sure they have a huge marketing machine, but non of that would work if they didnt produce.
by ducksfan on May 7, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any fan (Duck or otherwise) who is going to tell me that game would have been 3-0 had Quizz and James Rodgers been in it is fooling themselves.
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by The VD Special on May 7, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I will give you that. It was just pulling that off the top
by ducksfan on May 7, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I do understand what you’re saying about the offense being fun.
Whether I like it or not, 56-46 between 2 shitty teams with bad defense attracts a lot more attention than a 10-6 defensive battle between two great teams (i.e. Penn State-Ohio State last year)
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by The VD Special on May 7, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because I’m an Oregon State fan doesn’t mean I don’t have the right
I stopped reading after this.
It goes against everything I’ve been taught.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-M-W-O-W"
by JShufelt on May 7, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You and me haven’t had a good argument in a while, Shu. I miss our playful, albeit sometimes inappropriate banter
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by The VD Special on May 7, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a lighter note
how sick is this guy’s name
Sleeping under a avalanche with Cartman, wake me Sept 3.
by trumpetduck on May 7, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeez.
As if I don’t have enough trouble with Bellotti, Aliotti, Masoli and Azzinaro, not to mention Le- and La-RunningBacks. I hereby declare all unsigned Oregon football recruits to be… John Neal.
I'm really tired of it not being football season.
by JConant on May 7, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boseko “John Neal” Lokombo
Sleeping under a avalanche with Cartman, wake me Sept 3.
by trumpetduck on May 7, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That said…
I’d like to see the Ducks land Owamagbe “John Neal” Odighizuwa. Local prospect. Obvious talent. Rocks in the classroom. When he signs his LOI, I promise to learn to say and spell his name correctly.
I'm really tired of it not being football season.
by JConant on May 7, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking about making a post begging Odighizuwa to come to Oregon, and making several promises, just like this.
The guy is a beast. I would really enjoy seeing him terrorize the Pac-10 in green and yellow.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-M-W-O-W"
by JShufelt on May 7, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The promises that needs to be made is that Don Essig will pronounce his name correctly. How long did it take him to get Masoli? He should have to listen to a tape of players saying their own names while he sleeps.
Sleeping under a avalanche with Cartman, wake me Sept 3.
by trumpetduck on May 7, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, and who still uses tapes? silly me.
Sleeping under a avalanche with Cartman, wake me Sept 3.
by trumpetduck on May 7, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don Essig still uses tapes. Clearly.
It's spelled "T-A-K-I-M-O-T-S-C-H-M-O-E."
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by Takimoto on May 7, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on May 7, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, just noticed the volleyball quip
F you JConant, you’re such a snake in the grass
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by The VD Special on May 7, 2009 5:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for pointing that out to me. I saw volleyball and spaced out.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on May 7, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See? There you go, VD. Nobody reads what I write. It’s like it never happened.
I'm really tired of it not being football season.
by JConant on May 7, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the Bleacher Report article
It has some great counter-arguements FOR Aliotti. We have heard some of them before, but a commenter left a remark about the Ducks having a record of 47-12 in games decided by 7 points or less. That ain’t too bad in my book.
The Ducks had the defense on the field for an average of 35 minutes a game and 42 minutes against Arizona…
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
by 071903 on May 7, 2009 8:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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