Morning Quack Fix: More betting on the season, and recruiting news

by jtlight on Jul 22, 2009 7:40 AM PDT in Morning Quack Fix Comment 47 comments

Well, it's a slow news day, but here's your quack:

Nick Daschel at Buster Sports has an interesting post about betting on the over/under for total wins for each team. I think there is some good money to be made on Oregon, which has an over/under of only 7.5 wins. Vegas seems to be quite high on Arizona as well, with an over/under of 7 wins. Where would you put your money if you were in Vegas?
According to DuckTerritory, Oregon has offered Marcus Lattimore, a running back from South Carolina and one of the top prospects in the country. At this point, Oregon is in his top 3, along with Penn State and North Carolina, and should be visiting. With serious interest from Lattimore as well as Houston's Dontae Williams, Oregon is in a good position to solidify its running back situation over the next few years.
In wide receiver recruiting news, DuckTerritory lets us know that Oregon has offered another player from the North Carolina group, 2011 WR Maurice Harris, who is the cousin and teammate of ATH Keanan Allen. Harris says that he really wants to play with his cousin, and there's a strong chance that he will follow Allen. Currently both players are in Alabama, and after returning, Allen will be announcing between Oregon, Clemson, and Alabama. Unfortunately, I don't have a good feeling about this one, and fear that Nick Saban may pull in another big recruit. Allen and the other NC players will be getting pressure from Alabama, so the longer that the players wait, the better chances the Ducks have.
Jon Wilner, who apparently will rank anything under the sun, has his list of the worst Pac-10 teams of the decade. And has 2008 UW #1, and 2008 WSU #2, while 3 Husky teams it total made the list, more than any other school. That makes me smile a lot. However, while I always love to see the Huskies last in anything, that 2008 WSU team, even on its best day, was one of the worst football teams to step onto a field.
Lastly, if you missed it yesterday, it's apparently spread week at ESPN, and they're covering everything spread-related. If you check out their national blog, all their bloggers have done Q&A's with offensive and defensive coordinators from around the country. Of note, Bob Gregory (DC at Cal) talked with Ted Miller about the spread in the Pac-10, and specifically how to stop Oregon.

That's it for now. Leave anything else in the comments. GO DUCKS!

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For those that hadn’t heard, BSU added a game in DC against VT to start 2010. OBNUG asks, Does this make the schedule national championship worthy?

Nope.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Jul 22, 2009 8:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Not until they join the Pac-10

If ever, will they be a contender. They’re like Gonzaga, always pretty good but never championship level.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 22, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure it is...

If EVERYONE else loses at least two games.

Since that isn’t going to happen, all they need to do is look at Utah’s 2008 schedule. Outside of conference included at Michigan and home against Oregon State. The Utes ran the table, smoked an SEC team in a bowl and got second place. There’s a strong possibility that BSU winning at VaTech and at home against Oregon State, then winning out will get them only a BCS game, not a title shot.

The more myopic BSU folks will argue a win at VaTech would be superior than Utah’s win at Michigan. But that’s purely speculation. There’s nothing Utah could do about the current state of Michigan football.

I just hope we see a playoff at some point in my lifetime, because I believe that if you’re Utah or Boise State of BYU or whoever and you can go undefeated against those schedules you should get a chance to win it all. Maybe it happens, some day. Maybe never.

I'm really tired of it not being football season.

by JConant on Jul 22, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The problem is their run

against NMSU, Idaho, et al. Utah at least had to play TCU, BYU, CSU, and a decent Air Force team that would have placed 1st or 2nd in the WAC last year.

by BisonDucks on Jul 22, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

National championship of what?

by grimc on Jul 22, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They need to schedule a Pac-10 game (USC, OR, maybe CAL), a good SEC team (FL, AL, GA, Ole Miss) and a good Big 12 team (TX, OK, TT) and THEN that is enough for a national championship bid IF they go undefeated.

Playing the ACC is honestly not that much better than playing in the WAC or Mountain West. ACC is the weakest big name conference, right there with the Big East…(football of course)

by westspec on Jul 22, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Easily over 7.5 wins

I don’t see how we don’t get there honestly. I think at least 8 is very likely if not 9 or more.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 22, 2009 8:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Fun with OSewe

T.J. Houshmandzadeh’s ego has him boycotting Madden ’10

Until EA Sports releases “Sports Blogger Pie Eating Contest ’10,” I’m never going to know what it’s like to be in a video game. I’m never going to know what it feels like to pop a disc in the ol’ XBox 360, turn it on and see what rating I’ve been assigned.

I’d imagine that most guys think they should be rated above where they are, because that’s just human nature, and professional football is a profession that lends itself easily to a large ego. Everyone wants a high ranking. Everyone lacks perspective when judging their own abilities.

That said, I think T.J. Houshmandzadeh(notes) is being particularly unreasonable here. The man’s rated a 91, and he’s going slightly bananas over it. He said on the Colin Cowherd show today that he’s boycotting Madden ’10 until they show proper respect for his abilities.

“I understand I averaged 10 yards a catch, but it’s the offense, not me. I’m not playing Madden no more until they get my rating right. … I used to be the best in the world at Madden. I’m going to miss not playing it, but until they do me right, I’m not playing it any more.”

And he’s a 91! What did he want to be, a 114? Does he insist that little polygonal T.J. Houshmandzadeh be bathed in a warming, angelic glow of pure white light at all times? It’s a 91, man. I hope I’m not shattering any illusions when I suggest that T.J. Houshmandzadeh should be pretty happy with a 91.

As for EA Sports, I don’t know how they’re going to cope. A player who likely got the game for free anyway now refuses to play. I hope the company is able to rebound from the setback.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 22, 2009 8:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

hahahaha, I saw that headline, but didn’t both reading it. I had assumed he was in the low 80s or something. I can’t believe he’s at 91, and he’s all pissy….

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Jul 22, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm boycotting NCAA 10

In the dynasty recruiting Oregon’s fan base is rated “elite” and not “out of this world ungodly does 128 decibels mean anything to you amazing.” How dare they. I’m never going to pick up the game again, until after work.

TJ Whosyourmomma, just another irrational beaver.

Sleeping under an avalanche with Cartman, wake me Sept 3.

by trumpetduck on Jul 22, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

If I was betting $2500 on the O/U...

I’m not touching Cal or USC. I realize they’re both stacked, but just a single injury at a critical position could tip the cart when you’ve got to win more than 9 or 10 games to cash in. Also not touching Washington at 4 or UCLA at 6.5 or Arizona State at 6. All three feel like bigger gambles than I need to take.

I’m betting half my stack ($1250) on WSU at under 3 wins. I think Paul Wulff eventually will get some things done at WSU, but right now they have three, maybe four compelling players. Vegas should just pay me now.

I’m betting $500 on the Ducks over 7.5. Barring catastrophe, this team has everything it needs – including talent on both lines – to win 8 games.

I’m betting $250 on Arizona under 7. Stoops will be making a rapid return to the hot seat.

I’m betting $250 on Stanford over 5.5. Jim Harbaugh is either building a new contender in Palo Alto, or a nice resume. Maybe both.

Lastly, I’m putting $250 on Oregon State over 7.5. I believe the Beavs will play a with a chip on their shoulder this season. This year the Beavers are going to take care of their out of conference business, then finish in the top half of the Pac-10.

I'm really tired of it not being football season.

by JConant on Jul 22, 2009 10:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Righteous Bucks…….

by DONALDUCK on Jul 22, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This year the Beavers are going to take care of their out of conference business

Well it is extremely easier than last year’s

by echo31 on Jul 22, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think I'd touch the Beavs.

It’s entirely reasonable that they could be a 7-win team, just as easily as they could be a 9-win team.

I’d bet $500 on Stanford being at least a 6-win team. But maybe it’s just my mancrush on Jim Harbaugh.

Not sure about Arizona. They could reach 7. They could not. I hate Stoop-’n-take-it as much as the next guy, but 7 wins can be done by most teams south of the Columbia in the Pac-10.

I’d put the half stack on the Ducks winning 8. Maybe your $500 or your $250 could go to WSU being less than 3 wins – which I see happening, but it’s way easier to get to 8 wins with all our talent than for a team like theirs to not got lucky once or twice.

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Good luck in the WNBA, Kamyron!

by qrsouther on Jul 22, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

wheres media wed.?

by Duck4Lif3 on Jul 22, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I’m running way behind today. Will have it up either later today or tomorrow. Sorry about that

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Jul 22, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

There you have it, Dom. Today, you are a victim of your own greatness.

I'm really tired of it not being football season.

by JConant on Jul 22, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its fine

I look forward to it =) !!!

by Duck4Lif3 on Jul 22, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You told me you were going to make “I Can Haz Football – Basketball Edition” too… I’m scarred for life now. :)

"When Bellotti attempted to shake the hand of Oklahoma State quarterback Zac Robinson after the game, Robinson offered his left hand. His right was swollen and battered from the Ducks' defense."

by MarineCorpsDuck on Jul 23, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dom needs to learn to be like me, and not build up hopes or deliver!

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Jul 23, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

“Why do you build me, Dominic, just to let me down, and push me around?”

"It’s spelled S-H-U-F-E-L-T-M-E-U-P"

by JShufelt on Jul 23, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And then worst of all you never call, Dominic, when you say you will

by ntrebon on Jul 23, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

But it’s gone downhill.
I need you! And your Media Wednesdays
You know I have from the start

"It’s spelled S-H-U-F-E-L-T-M-E-U-P"

by JShufelt on Jul 23, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

you had me at “downhill”

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Jul 23, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So build me up

Dominic, don’t break my heeeeeeeart

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Good luck in the WNBA, Kamyron!

by qrsouther on Jul 23, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Waaaayyyyy too much bromance going on here.

I'm really tired of it not being football season.

by JConant on Jul 23, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can never have too much bromance.

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Good luck in the WNBA, Kamyron!

by qrsouther on Jul 23, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay well maybe you can.

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Good luck in the WNBA, Kamyron!

by qrsouther on Jul 23, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

the problem with I Can Haz “insert sport here” is that I try to give them a positive spin, no matter how much the odds are stacked against us. You try to find positive things in our basketball season last year. When almost all the images I can find show us getting beat or dunked on, makes it hard to spin it the right way. ;)

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Jul 23, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know, I’m just giving you a hard time. I still have this one as my background on my work computer. Never gets old, especially since it came true.

"When Bellotti attempted to shake the hand of Oklahoma State quarterback Zac Robinson after the game, Robinson offered his left hand. His right was swollen and battered from the Ducks' defense."

by MarineCorpsDuck on Jul 23, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Speaking of BSU's 2008 "Scout Team Defensive Player of the Year"...

…he may be in jeopardy of missing the big game against Oregon. Read on.

To be clear, I take no pleasure in a young man potentially having alcohol issues. It’s just one of those unexpected, unfortunate things that can happen prior to kick-off.

I'm really tired of it not being football season.

by JConant on Jul 22, 2009 2:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hahaha...

LoCoJo wrote on July, 22 11:50 AM:
He’s 300 pounds and his BAC was .15-.17? Now that’s a whole lotta Natural Light!

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Good luck in the WNBA, Kamyron!

by qrsouther on Jul 22, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

the whole 30 rack, if my math is right

Sleeping under an avalanche with Cartman, wake me Sept 3.

by trumpetduck on Jul 22, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was going to be the beef on their line, a la Toeaini

Winn is 282 along with Chase Baker at 284. From what I’ve hear Swyck is around 260 and Hout is like 230. Of course, these guys can bulk up but Hout is the OLB/DE hybrid that Rowe is so his ceiling isn’t much higher. Swyck is a redshirt junior, so he doesn’t have the underclassmen growth to be expected.

All in all, this is a huge blow. He was competing with Chase for the starting spot and now that honor goes to Nigsby or Chuck Hayes. The former is the beef at this point 295 but all reports say his conditioning sucked, which is why he wasn’t factoring in the two deep.

NO ONE at obnug is talking about this underclassmen rich front 6 in their 4-2-5 scheme. They feature Swyck and Acrey as the returning upperclassmen. Mackey was a JUCO guy that didn’t play last year but some think that starting linebacker next to Acrey will be Tevis or White, both sophmores, because of Mackey’s inconsistency. So, 3 guys in the front 6’s two deep are junior and the rest are all underclassmen with one of them needing to prove himself to be #1. To boot they are on the smaller size, especially at linebacker. The 4-2-5 scheme plays a safety/olb hybrid that most give a nod to Venable at 210 pounds, a 2009 JUCO guy. Tevis and White are currently listed below 215 (I’d suspect they’ve bulked up) but these guys are on the lighter side all around. Now their DT rotation will be light too.

by BisonDucks on Jul 22, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

hopefully this equates to many, many rushing yards and TDs

by echo31 on Jul 22, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

As usual, you’re right on top of it, BD.

Let’s see what comes of it from the BSU athletic department. I don’t believe any suspension or other punishment has been announced. He’s been arrested and charged with two misdemeanors at this point. Given Coach Peterson’s history with guys breaking team rules, I’d be a bit surprised if he’s available for the season opener. See kevanlee’s 10/13/08 post at OBNUG regarding WR Titus Young’s suspension last season.

I'm really tired of it not being football season.

by JConant on Jul 22, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs