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Morning Quack Fix: Kelly stands behind Masoli, has more more perspective than a lot of Duck fans

So, I was unfortunately unable to watch the game this weekend due to some prior obligations. However, I am simply astounded by the number of calls we were hearing from fans to bench Jeremiah Masoli. Yes, he had a bad game. But that doesn't mean he should be benched, or that any of our other QBs would be better. The bench Masoli response has been emotionally driven, and I have not seen any rational discussion of this topic. So, let's get some perspective, and take a lesson from our coach on this one:

  • In this week's Sunday conference call, Chip Kelly acknowledged concern over Jeremiah Masoli, but stated, "The reasons I stayed with Jeremiah in that game is because he’s our quarterback and he gives us the best chance to win." Kelly repeated his typical comments on competition, saying that Costa has a chance to win the job every week, though I'm not buying it at this point. 
  • Kelly had some other comments in the press conference. He thinks that LaMichael James could be even better than he showed in his record-setting performance. There is no new injury news to report, though T.J. Ward and Rory Cavaille are not cleared for contact on Monday. Also, Kelly said that Lavasier Tuinei was our best perimeter blocker, though is still searching for his first catch as a Duck.
  • The always great Ken Woody has his game recap up, and spends some time on Masoli's performance. Unlike those that claim Masoli can't throw from the pocket, Woody claims that many of Masoli's problems were seen while he was trying to throw on the run, and that his footwork (which has been inconsistent throughout his career) was poor and led to a number of incomplete passes. As always, Woody covers every aspect of the game, and his post is a must-read.
  • Rob Moseley had some good thoughts on his twitter while watching a replay of the game. Of note: "Drops were an issue for the receivers again; Masoli wasn't THAT bad. Decisions were worse than mechanics."

That's all for now. As always, post links or comments (especially on the Masoli situation) below. GO DUCKS!

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Missing....huge reward
  1. Ed Dickson
    Position: Tight End
    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 243
    Year: Senior
    High School/Other College: Bellflower HS
     

Did big Ed piss in someones Cheerios? Why isn’t he getting used? Any thoughts?

by frozenfowl74 on Sep 21, 2009 6:52 AM PDT reply actions  

he doesn’t have to catch the ball to be used. His blocking is out of sight and has helped spring a number of our runs

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Sep 21, 2009 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are we running the wishbone now?

I wasn’t aware that we used our TE’s exclusively as blockers

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

We don't

Dom’s making the point that just because Ed Dickson isn’t catching passes doesn’t mean he’s completely disappeared from the offense. And personally, if Ed Dickson pissed in my Cheerios, I’d straight up kill him. So clearly, that’s not what we’re dealing with.

It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."

I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Sep 21, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know what he meant and I appreciate the cheerios reference

But at this point we have an offense that can’t use at least 40% of its playbook because our QB can’t throw a forward pass with any regularity. I hope that changes, but there haven’t been any signs to make me think otherwise.

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

wishbone doesn’t sound like a bad idea then…

It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."

I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Sep 21, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

FIRE KELLY!!! HIRE PETTIBONE!!!

Hmmm……that’s even more ridiculous looking than I thought it would.

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He caught 1/4 of all completed passes! Is that not enough?

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not knocking Ed...

Just like to see him get the ball more…

by frozenfowl74 on Sep 21, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I was being sarcastic… Dickson totally needs to see the ball more.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think this was more my point...

“Masoli isn’t playing great, or even mediocre by any stretch, but when you look at 4-16 passing, ask yourself how many passes these guys are dropping. Because its way too many. Only Ed Dickson is a reliable target right now (and Masoli is barely looking at him).”

by frozenfowl74 on Sep 21, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

We should be using Dickson like Arizona used Gronkowski against us last year. Throw him the ball until some one stops you, then go to your outside recivers.

by ducksfan on Sep 21, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

if you'd seen masoli play

.. you’d recognize that based on an entire body of work for the season, he is near the bottom of the Pac 10’s QB hierarchy. He is singlehandedly keeping the opponents in every game they’ve played this year. Costa deserves a shot – but the rookie head coach lacks the cojones to give in to the SI Cover Curse.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 21, 2009 6:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I’ve already responded to this idea several times. Putting in your backup with no practical experience and three knee surgeries who appears to be around 90% is not what you want to do against Cal, regardless of how well your starting QB is doing. Statistics or not, Masoli is 2-1 this year against the #9 toughest schedule in the country. I could care less about his statistics if we are winning.

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Sep 21, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

That doesn’t even make sense. Masoli couldn’t pass in the game, but he still gave the team a better chance to win against Utah. Oregon was up. It was rainy. There was zero need to pass. So keeping him in the game was a great move.

If Masoli can’t pull it together, then Costa will see the field. I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes more first team snaps this week. But at this point, your criticism is ridiculous and premature.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

You see ...

… I saw a game where Oregon won despite of their QB (two fumbles and an interception with questionable accuracy all game) not because of it. The difference between last year and this year? no one is surprised by Masoli and everyone is game planning for him. There is film on him now and there is a book on how to defend him. He has not been able to overcome that.

Costa has the physical skills to be a good spread QB (obviously as a passer) and he has been in the system a long time. He deserves a shot.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 21, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

You don’t need a book to defend drops and bad decisions. The stuff that makes Masoli special as a player (his ability to run the read option, his hard nosed running style) is still working. The stuff that makes him a QB is not. If anything, Costa would have a tougher time passing the ball due to his diminished running capabilities.

My biggest gripe with Maoli Saturday was that he never looked up the middle, which consistently had a receiver up the seam and open. Even on the Maehl deep ball, half the stadium yelled at him to throw it for a second or two before he did. I’ve never seen 58,000 people make a better field read than the QB.

It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."

I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Sep 21, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

My whole section was pointing out Maehl on that INT play – but they were saying to throw to him way earlier – when he was open. I swear Masoli’s reaction was like he was on the price is right.

Bob Barker: Alright Masoli! You’re in the red zone, and you’ve got an open guy. What do you want to do?

Masoli turns to the crowd, looking for instructions

Crowd: Air Maehl! Air Maehl! Pass it!

Masoli points at Maehl, and then looks to see the crowd’s reaction

Crowd: YES! YES! YEAH! THROW IT!

Masoli stops – and thinks about the decision.

Masoli shows hesitation, but realizes – aw, the crowd knows what’s up!

Masoli: I’ll pass to Maehl, Bob!

Bob: Masoli, you thought about it. And figured this is what you want to do… You’re going to pass it to Maehl, and let’s see that Touchdown….

Price Is Right Bummer Music Plays

Bob: Oh! No! You took too long! Masoli, that’s an interception -What a tough break. We’ll see you at the showcase show down.

It’s spelled "S-H-U-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bob: Friends, don’t forget to spay and neuter. Help control the Husky population.

Last time I checked, there is no "Hall of Average." - Oregon Football Coach Chip Kelly

by JConant on Sep 21, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Masoli has yet to impress

I realize that throwing Costa in the mix without every playing a down is a pretty scary thought. But if you have watched Masoli this year, there is no way that you can call concerns on his play “emotionally driven” and lacking any rational discussion. His reads have been terrible both running and passing, he locks in on one receiver and has thrown some poor passes. Masoli is still dangerous running the ball but it seems that even on the option Masoli decides where is going even before the play develops.

This is the first game I feel like the Ducks clearly won. Boise St. could have been much worse and without a couple big defensive plays in Purdue I am not sure we win that one. But we should have beat Utah by more than 7. Things are looking up.

But I am not going to pretend that my number 1 concern is not Masoli. We are not going to win any big games (Cal/USC) if he doesn’t start to show an ability to be dynamic in the pocket (i.e. make an actual read running the ball and checking down multiple receivers). If its a season of what i have seen in the first 3 games, I wouldn’t mind seeing a little bit of what Costa might offer.

by oregontrail on Sep 21, 2009 7:28 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m not calling concerns about his play emotionally driven. Hell I’m concerned about his play. It’s been rather poor this year, especially throwing the ball. But crap like, He Need To Leave is total garbage.

Benching Masoli does not solve any problems. In fact, it likely creates even more of them.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's fair

The “He needs to leave” commentary is totally overdone.

With Cal upcoming, a change at QB seems like a disaster. But wouldn’t mind seeing a little Costa in the Wazzu game if we see more of the same from Masoli. Clearly he can play better than this, just a little disappointed that’s all.

by oregontrail on Sep 21, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree on WSU totally. If Masoli does not improve significantly during Cal, then WSU is a perfect time to switch up the QB situation, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Costa get significant playing time in that game.

The thing that stinks, we know what Masoli can do if he just gets the confidence and gets into rhythm. If that happens (and I still think it can), look out.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that’s fair.

Being disappointed is completely understandable. He showed how dangerous he is several times last year – and even this year in the spring game.

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-E-T-O-U-T"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

They are emotionally driven. People, just like last year, are going off of their gut reaction, and only remembering the bad.

He’s done, a great job reading the zone read the last two games. Especially against Utah. People that argue otherwise are simply ignorant of Oregon football.

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-E-T-O-U-T"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am far from ignorant when it comes to football, particulary Oregon football

Nothing I love more than Oregon football. But we are allowed to voice concerns right? I am an Oregon fan to the core but I am not going to say Masoli has done a great job. I really hope that by year end he makes everyone who doubts him look really foolish.

by oregontrail on Sep 21, 2009 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure. Everyone should be open to voice their opinions. They also need to be prepared to receive criticism just as openly.

Masoli ran the zone read splendidly yesterday. You said he was terrible with it – I find that comment to be abhorrent. LMJ had a good day rushing. Masoli ran in two TDs. He made things happen during the mesh. I give him an A- for his ability to read the zone from the Utah game.

To say he did a terrible job with the zone read, is just sensationalist commentary and completely off base. People that say that are probably either: A. Are trying to get a rise from people, or B. Ignorant of how the zone read works.

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-E-T-O-U-T"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

you could rip on his passing. But his play on the option was stellar.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Sep 21, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

geez

Masoli has made some bad reads over the course of this season in my opinion. He was definitely better in Utah. No doubt the running game looked much much better. I just said he has made some bad reads both in the running game and passing game this year. If I were just talking about Utah, the passing game is the only thing I could complain about.

I apologize if “terrible” is a word that truly upsets you. But my comments are “abhorrent”, “sensationalist”,“completely off base”, displays my “ignorance of the zone read works”, and was just “trying to get a rise out of people”?!?!? Now that’s a little harsh don’t you think?

by oregontrail on Sep 21, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Masoli made bad reads against BSU, which I covered in this article. However, he has obviously improved 100% from those issues. Your comments made it seem like he had been doing nothing right, either running or passing, through all three games. That came off as very sensationalist.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your comments made it seem like he had been doing nothing right, either running or passing, through all three games. That came off as very sensationalist.

That’s exactly right.

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-E-T-O-U-T"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

getting a little carried away here

This seems like we are all getting a little carried away. I apologize if my commentary was too harsh on Masoli.

I have concerns. That’s all.

by oregontrail on Sep 21, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

There’s no real need to apologize. We just disagreed with your initial assessment. It seems like we’ve found a good middle ground. Yay conversation!

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think having concerns is completely understandable. The two best words to describe Masoli this season are “Disappointed” and “inconsistent”.

I’m frustrated with Masoli’s passing like anyone else, but I’m also frustrated with the people that want Masoli’s head on a platter. It telling of how spoiled we’ve been as fans from the last two years.

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-E-T-O-U-T"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

Just don’t take your frustrations out on me. I never asked for his head on a platter. I just said I wouldn’t mind seeing Costa at some point.

by oregontrail on Sep 21, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's say that Costa did enter the game, OK?

              What do you think the defensive coordinator is going to do?

by DONALDUCK on Sep 21, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

not sure

I guess they probably still stack the box and make you beat them with a pass. Not sure that they take any different approach with Costa at QB.

But I wouldn’t mind seeing it. For better or worse.

[and note: I am in no way saying that Masoli is not the man for next game. I am just saying, if Masoli struggles, I wouldn’t mind seeing Costa]

by oregontrail on Sep 21, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

While I admit I did use coarse words. I really meant no ill intent towards you specifically.

I thought you were taking one pathetic game, and applying it to the season as a whole. So saying that he made terrible reads with the option in Utah or Purdue, I think is just wrong. But that isn’t what you were saying. That was my mistake.

So I extend an apology out to you. When it comes to the internet, I call it as I see it. Which can backfire when you don’t see it correctly.

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-E-T-O-U-T"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

it's all good

the ignorant comment is the only one that bothered me.

I love a healthy discussion.

by oregontrail on Sep 21, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of people only see the success of a successful zone read.
When someone only takes it for a minimal gain (or even a loss), they’ll often say “Oh – he should have kept/given that”.
In reality, if he kept/given it, the loss could have been worse. It’s very possible to defend the zone read, both outside and inside. That’s why you need to have a smart OLine, and a third option.
(Which for Masoli, it’s usually a bubble screen, and with Dixon it was usually a pitch man.)

That’s where the comment of ignorance stems from. A lot of people don’t know all the intricacies of Oregon’s main play, because it looks like a simple run play. Again, I’m sorry for that. I’m not a fighter.

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-E-T-O-U-T"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

The definition of ignorance

… is to maintain a steadfast belief in something that has been proven repeatedly to be immoral, unjust or untrue. I would say Masoli’s play over the first 25% of the season would put those who are concerned on the correct side of that equation.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Sep 21, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Try again.

It's spelled "S-H-U-G-E-T-O-U-T"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s spelled “S-H-U-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y”

It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."

I support inroywetrust in his support of The VD Special in his support of me supporting Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by Takimoto on Sep 21, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec’d for easy Copy-And-Paste.

And for the laugh.

It’s spelled "S-H-U-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

being “concerned” is a lot different than advocating a position to jettison him. I think all Duck fans are at least mildly concerned, regardless of their feelings on whether he should be benched. Just because there is concern doesn’t mean that concern should be addressed by replacement.

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Sep 21, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

The coach know much better than anyone else

I would like to see Kelly give Costa more reps with the first team offense this week. If for nothing else to push Masoli to play better. I do not think that pulling Masoli right now is a good move. His passing is very dissapointing, but what i am more pissed about is his fumbling problem. He is running the ball great, but now he keeps putting it on the floor. The running game is finally clicking and the O line is playing better. If we could move the ball through the air to keep the defense honest we would be right back up to last years numbers

by ducksfan on Sep 21, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I get Woody’s assesment of Masoli’s problem throwing on the run (and agree), but his footwork in the pocket is bad. When he does that herky jerky thing to get in passing position it drives me nuts. It seems as though he is being told to do this, too. I realize he’s in the shotgun, so he doesn’t need to drop back, but I think more natural motions allow you to see progressions and or step up in the pocket a bit better. It’s almost as though he is concentrating on literally jumping into pass position rather than reading the secondary. This results in losing a second in the pocket and him going to his primary receiver nearly every time.
 
With that said, his option read is still good. Like, really good. And being that we run a spread option, this is a huge positive for Masoli. He needs to work on some passing mechanics, obviously, but he is our quarterback. There should be no controversy right now, in my opinion.

by djp on Sep 21, 2009 9:16 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Heh

Just read a few posts by Bill Musgrave and he dubbed it “Robocheck.” Robocheck, indeed.

by djp on Sep 21, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does any body have a link

To that LMJ spin move in the hole. When that happened I thought it would be the highlight of the game, sorry Boyett, and I can’t find it anywhere. I just want to watch it over and over and over, is that too much to ask? Man that play was sick.

Support your team!

by trumpetduck on Sep 21, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

That was lightning fast. The OLine did horrible on that play – and LMJ made a move that made something happen out of nothing.

It’s spelled "S-H-U-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am sorry but your comment about perspective could be about both sides of the issue at this point

Most people who are Masoli doubters at this point don’t want to see a complete QB change….we just want Costa to get a couple of series. For some reason the other side of the debate seems to think our offense would grind to a halt as a result of that. I agree that Masoli is running the running part of our offense fairly well (though his 5 TO’s through three games negates that)

However….his best day has been against an incredibly overrated Utah defense….they were putting 8 and 9 men in the box and were still unable to keep track of both Masoli and our RB. Pac-10 play isn’t going to be so nice to us. When we struggled with our passing game last year, we barely beat Stanford and had real problems with UCLA. Keep in mind this was with a dominant offensive line and running game. We don’t have that luxury anymore. In order to win games from here on Masoli HAS to throw the ball with some consistency.

Masoli will need to complete around 50% of his passes and get at least 150-200 yards in the air…..unfortunately we’ve gotten about half that and the worse throwing QB in the Nation. I don’t think any changes should be made for the Cal game, but if Masoli still doesn’t show any improvement…a change has to happen. You can’t mortgage the entire season waiting for one player to pull his head out of his ass.

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Most people who are Masoli doubters at this point don’t want to see a complete QB change….we just want Costa to get a couple of series.

Well, I agree that we should get Costa a series or two, but I also think that most of the people calling for Masoli’s head are calling for him to be benched right now.

I also think that keeping Masoli in the game was the right thing to do. We had control of the game, despite the turnovers, switching QBs would have been a much greater risk than even what we were seeing on the field. We weren’t gonna be throwing the ball much in the second half, we were going to be running it. And Masoli accomplished that goal much better than Costa would have.

Also, I don’t understand why you’re getting all defensive on this issue. I stated above that if Masoli doesn’t improve, then against WSU, Costa will need to (and will) receive a good deal of work.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I apologise if my response appeared to be directed at you.

It’s just I get tired of people trying to make excuses for some of the worst QB play we’ve seen from an Oregon QB in a long time.

This isn’t last year..we have different players, different coaches, and different opponents….and for some reason that combination of change has has turned Masoli from the absolute weapon to a borderline liability.

I hope that he can bounce back because we are at our best when he is playing well, but I don’t want to waste half of the season before we make some change.

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Another thing...

Why the hell is everyone flipping out about this if your whole argument is “if Masoli still doesn’t show any improvement…a change has to happen.” Ummm…no crap.

So what, the whole thing is, let’s bitch about moan about Masoli sucking when even if we were in control, nothing would change? On top of this, you’re creating strawmen left and right. No one’s saying we should mortgage the season. No one’s saying we should stay with Masoli indefinitely. We’re saying, hey, changing QBs right now is NOT in the best interests of the team, which apparently you agree with…

This overreaction is simply staggering.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I SAID HE HAS THE CAL GAME

Sorry to go caps lock but you seemed to have missed that in my post

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I got the point of your post. I quoted it.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.

by qrsouther on Sep 21, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was the mortgage quote, and then this…

For some reason the other side of the debate seems to think our offense would grind to a halt as a result of that.

I honestly don’t think that we’re that far off in what we want to see happen. But the crazy hyperbole, such as saying 40% of the playbook is off limits, doesn’t help your point or make you seem reasonable.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Our offense can't throw a forward pass right now..

How is that not limiting a large portion of your playbook?

As the the grinding to halt…..the biggest argument I am seeing against against Costa was that he can’t can’t run the option read nearly as well as Masoli (the bread and butter of our current offense and the only part actually working). The knee also comes up a lot which is a legitimate concern. My point is that Costa doesn’t have to make those long TD runs in order for the offense to be effective. Being able to sustain drives on a consistent basis is almost as valuable because your defense is not on the field for 75% of the game.

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

When we were running the offense we wanted to run, the playbook was obviously open. It was not getting executed well, and with the lead and weather, it’s obvious the coaching staff was content to just run the ball and grind out the win.

I also think you are significantly mis-interpreting the significance of the spread option. It’s not even about the long runs (Masoli’s longest was 22). It’s about keeping the defense off balance, which opened things up greatly for James. Moving to Costa would have been saying, we want to pass the ball, something we did not want to do in ANY WAY.

Again, Masoli will have to improve, but the coaching staff didn’t limit the playbook until we were content to simply hold onto the lead and let the defense win the game.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's the point of running a play that does not have much of a chance to succeed?

I consider that pretty limiting

Out of the three designed passes in the second half, one was picked, one had a good chance of being picked, and the other was way off target.

Kelly obviously was avoiding throwing the ball at all costs in the second half, and the three passes made it clear why,

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, you can look it at that way, or you can look at it because, we had no reason to throw the ball. It was not successful. I think what’s more important is that Kelly stuck with Masoli, as he said in the press conference, because it gave the team it’s best chance to win.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kelly is a first year coach and I don't think he saw this coming

any more than we did. A lot of preseason planning would change if we switched QB’s. I completely understand why he doesn’t want to make the switch. He thought he had a starting QB locked in for two years and all of sudden a giant wrench just got thrown in those plans. Listening to his comments after the game, the during the previous week, and watching his interactions with Masoli, it really sounds like he is getting frustrated with the difference in JM’s performance between practice.

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can imagine. When you’re on the cover of SI, and then have a QB rating of less than 100, something is seriously wrong.

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also think that against good teams, we’re gonna use our whole playbook, and if it’s not executed by the QB, we will likely lose.

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the ability of a QB to keep it and run makes the run game effective. The question is, is the possibility of Costa throwing the ball better than Masoli enough to sacrifice Masoli’s mobility, when it’s been proven that Masoli has the ability to make all the same throws Costa can? I say no.

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by Takimoto on Sep 21, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especially in a game where we’re in the lead, and our only goal is to run the ball….

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be one thing if there was no hope for Masoli

But we know he can make those passes, whereas, with his shredded knee, we have no reason to believe that Costa can run. And running is more valuable in our offense

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by David Piper on Sep 21, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

We know nothing about Costa

We don’t know if his knee will explode the second he takes the field. Or that he might actually be able to run the offense effectively.

This team has thrown the ball effectively both coming from behind and when we had the lead in the past. In my opinion, we stopped passing because it wasn’t working, not because we were trying to hold the lead.

by oregontrail on Sep 21, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

In my opinion, we stopped passing because it wasn’t working, not because we were trying to hold the lead.

I think it was obviously a combination of both. Running was working. Passing was not. Running the ball was what would help us win the game. We obviously didn’t need to pass to win the game.

On top of that, that half was not indicative of Oregon offense. It was a very specific half where certain adjustments were made in specific conditions. It’s not like we’re gonna come out and just try to run only against Cal.

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really really want Masoli to get it together

because this is an absolute golden opportunity to take the pac-10 due to our defense and USC having QB problems

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more

I would love to see a couple series from Costa no matter how the Cal game goes.

by oregontrail on Sep 21, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

New Podcast Posted!!

We’ve got a new show posted as of this morning! Go Ducks!!

This week Lord Beverage and Muchas G cover the Duck’s big win over Utah and take a look ahead to (hopefully) pissing all over Jeff Tedford’s Golden Bears. The duo dish out a Duck You, and take a quick look around the Pac-10.

by muchas g on Sep 21, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

We talkin’ bout PRACTICE?

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by Takimoto on Sep 21, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think practice has been a problem for Masoli

Which has to be incredibly frustrating for Kelly because he sees what Masoli can do but something isn’t clicking in game situations.

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t it this summer that people were always complaining about Masoli being a “gamer” and not performing in practice?

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was definitely the case last year, but the situation seems to be different last year.

Masoli looked great in the spring game, had a good camp, and apparently has looked fairly solid in practices during the week. I think that is why everybody is shell shocked by this regression as we had no indication this was coming.

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could have sworn that i kept reading that Masoli’s passing was looking great in the spring. Its there, he just has to find it and that may be if oregon is down a couple of scores to get back into a game.

by ducksfan on Sep 21, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

His spring game was phenomenal, though limited.

It’s spelled "S-H-U-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Ethan Grant!!!

Screw thunder, I’m hooked on lightning!

It's spelled "T-A-K-O-T-U-E-S-D-A-Y-S-!-!-!."

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by Takimoto on Sep 21, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless we get Lattimore… then FREAKING YEAH! LIGHTNING AND THUNDER!

It’s spelled "S-H-U-C-T-I-O-N-A-R-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great news!

Last time I checked, there is no "Hall of Average." - Oregon Football Coach Chip Kelly

by JConant on Sep 21, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

ETHANETHANETHANETHANETHANETHAN!!

He is soooooo fast on tape that I have seen posted on youtube!!!!

Formerly Blount#9...

by CaDuck on Sep 21, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any word on the other recruits that visited?

I forgot the name of a Florida reciever coming west for this game, We had a few other big time guys come out as well

Formerly Blount#9...

by CaDuck on Sep 21, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I chuckled a couple times at this EDSBS article on Chip Kelly.

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Interesting precedent

Poor Ty will be broke.

Yes your ass looks big, you need to lose weight. Sorry, had to vent.

by Old Ducker on Sep 21, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey JDudes

What’s the probability that Ward plays this Sat? Any other guesses as to who sits out this Sat?

by danzig on Sep 21, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Ward is our only concern. He was held out of contact today… He was questionable for this past game, so hopefully he’ll be ready to play. If not, his replacements have done a more than adequate job.

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Ward will play

Only other injury I’ve heard about is CE Kaiser (o-lineman), anyone know what’s going on there?

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by David Piper on Sep 21, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn’t mentioned at all by Kelly during the press conference, and Kaiser played again during the Utah game.

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

great

I didn’t see him go back in

--Dave
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by David Piper on Sep 21, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

Have you guys seen Costa run in practice? What sort of a runner is his compared to Masoli?

by danzig on Sep 21, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stylistically?

Well, not as willing to break out the right analog stick as Masoli, but good speed and a nice ballfake. His acceleration is surprisingly there.

I’ll come right out and say it now – Nate Costa’s knee is finally going to be fine.

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by qrsouther on Sep 21, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nate Costa just stood up at his apartment and tore his ACL just because you said that.

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by Takimoto on Sep 21, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Practice update from Moseley. Masoli took every first string snap….so much for a QB controversy. Sounds like Kelly is picking his horse, and that’s probably for the best. Masoli needs to get some confidence and just get into some rhythm, and I think he’ll be fine.

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Not surprising.......

It would be a horrible idea to make any changes before a game of this magnitude.

by ppilot on Sep 21, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Volleyball Quack

No. 7 Ducks host No. 3 Huskies Friday at 7 at Mac Court.

*bump* U!
*set* of!
*SPIKE* OOOOOOOOO!

by AllSaintsDay on Sep 21, 2009 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Beat those overgrown rats!!!

Beat them into submission!!

The curse! I cannot live knowing i have the power to knowingly dictate somebody's fate. I am in the process of changing my screenname. Therefore, yes, that is Jahvid Best as my profile image (as motivated by marinecorpsduck). We should all collectively hope like hell that putting his picture up there will have the same effect. We will find out on Saturday!

by CaDuck on Sep 21, 2009 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

As much as I do say “Huck the Fuskies” from a purely football standpoint, I think that it’s worse for the volleyball team. Despite twice-a-season matchups against each Pac-10 team, I don’t think we haven’t beaten them since ’95 (goducks.com confirms two losses a year starting in 02) including 0-4 during our current streak in the Top 25 and 0-3 during our current streak in the Top 15.

That’s why we need to get every single person who’s going to the Cal game to decide to warm up their vocal cords the night before. We can fit all of Autzen into the Pit, right?

*bump* U!
*set* of!
*SPIKE* OOOOOOOOO!

by AllSaintsDay on Sep 21, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Err…“I don’t think we’ve beaten them” or “I think we haven’t beaten them”
I meant either, but not both.

*bump* U!
*set* of!
*SPIKE* OOOOOOOOO!

by AllSaintsDay on Sep 21, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enought about Masoli, Joe Giasante

couldn’t hit a receiver if he was thin enough to show arms for the first time in 20 years.

Pretty lame attempt, sorry, was both desperate for a JG insult string and a way to deflect the Masoli bad chakra onto a more worthy recipient.

by Bill Musgrave on Sep 21, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions  

My Masoli 2 Cents

He has looked pretty bad so far, and it leads to questions, the most important of which is: Were the last 3 games of last season Masoli’s true talent level or was he a product of a great offense with a lot of weapons? If the answer to that question is the latter, the Ducks are in trouble.

HOWEVER, I agree with the people thinking with their heads; a QB change before the Cal game would create more problems than it would solve. Right now, Masoli is at least a threat on the ground which is giving James and Barner the room they need to run. And there’s always a chance Masoli could regain the touch with his arm. With Costa, the Ducks would be handing the reins to a guy who’s never started a game and won’t be a threat on the ground at all. It’s not an improvement.

Let Masoli play against Cal and let’s see what happens. Maybe he’ll rise to the occasion.

I feel the need, the need...for speed!

by Gorbachav5 on Sep 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT reply actions  

There are dozens of variables that could or could not explain what's happening to our offense, or specifically Masoli.

I’ll be honest and say that I have no idea for what it really is. If I had to pick one thing, it’d be the detachment from Chip Kelly in the capacity of a quarterbacks coach.

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by qrsouther on Sep 22, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

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