OBNUG won the blog bet...again
by jtlight on Sep 8, 2009 3:00 PM PDT
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PrintFor the second year in a row, OBNUG has won the blog bet on the Oregon/BSU game, and get to post on our site. Here is Kevan's post:
Haven't Oregon fans been through enough already?
Thursday night's loss was bad. LeGarrette Blount's suspension is deflating. Seeing Mikrino in the comments will be embarrassing. There's no need for me to rub it in even worse with a coldhearted blog bet.
I thought about going with a Chip Kelly diary ("But diary, the folks at Jamaica Me Tan promised me we'd win!") or a Jeremiah Masoli sonnet (what rhymes with incompletion?) or the sequel to last season's blog bet blockbuster movie script. But that's just cruel. Oregon fans don't need to be reminded of their team's shortcomings. They need to laugh. They need to laugh so they won't cry.
And what better way to laugh than through the magic of cartoons? I realized something the other day. Oregon head coach Chip Kelly bears an uncanny resemblance to Coach McGuirk from Cartoon Network's Home Movies.
(Photos via photos.oregonlive.com and intensities.files.wordpress.com)
Both are coaches. Both are blonde-haired, hefty men. Both work in an increasingly depressing job situation. And it's easy enough to picture Kelly having the same conversations with his players that Coach McGuirk has with his.
Chip Kelly speaks with his team after the loss to Boise State:
Chip Kelly at practice:
Chip Kelly sharing words of wisdom with Jeremiah Masoli:
There. Don't we feel better now?
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Meh, last year's was funnier.
Nice videos though. I think I’ll start watching television again and check out that show.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
It's on DVD.
And it’s fantastic. I wonder if the fact that I own three seasons of this show on DVD will get me back in jt’s good graces…?
Thursday night
Is it important for the Duck fan to know that even though some of us BSU fans talk some hard core smack, Thursday night’s win has lost a lot of its luster? If not, that’s cool too. Some may recall my open hostility towards Masoli. But Thursday proved me correct. He is at best average. The whole thing with Blount kind of makes me think of an airplane crash – you kind of get sick when you think of what happened to the victims. Some want a pound of Hout’s hide and others want to crucify Blount. Everyone has an opinion. But in the end, the fun has been drained out of the win.
Some may recall my open hostility towards Masoli. But Thursday proved me correct. He is at best average.
That’s not even kinda true. It proved that he can be wildly inconsistent. He is at best a very efficient QB that can also run the ball. At worst, he can’t make a decision to save his life.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
yep, not to break out the Dennis Dixon comparison but don’t forget how his Junior year turned out. Not saying that is a direct comparison, but Masoli has a high ceiling (as has been proven by the end of last year
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
Average isn't the word.
As Shu and Jared said, it’s inconsistency. I’m still very confident in Jeremiah Masoli, I think he’s at times a fantastic quarterback, and at other times he is on an island.
He is at best averageThis couldn’t be more incorrect. At best he plays like a Heisman contender. At worst he plays like Terry Schiavo.
It’s unfortunate that he reverted to his Lord of the Flies state for a huge game to kickoff the season, but it doesn’t mean he’ll fall off the wagon like you think he has.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
We'll Take The Win
BSU deserves it. Oregon got trashed on the field. But unless Oregon turn things around and lights a fire to that Duck’s ass, the win won’t any more than whipping the Idaho Vandals.
Great form JLF...
we’re now Idaho. Who in the WAC conference could keep it within 11 points while going for a meager 150 yards on offense? We’ll win games this year.
Vandals and Ducks
There is no comparison between the teams. The point is, BSU gets no more credit for waxing Oregon than it would Idaho unless Oregon gets back on track. For us to get full credit for the win, Oregon has to be a serious competitor. Even for the rest of the season, if BSU doesn’t rack up 30 point wins against our lack-luster conference mates, we will loose quality points. The only hope we have of edging up in the polls is if Fresno or Nevada comes out of the gate with some serious mojo. Us Bronco fans have complained and complained about the Marvin Milk Toast schedule and no one has listened. We can’t get out of the WAC right now. So be it. Maybe in the future. But we do have control over our out of conference opponents and yet we play the MAC and C-USA. Occassionally we snag a MWC game and every so often a Pac-10. We should have tough Pac-10 and MWC every year but it hasn’thappened. To this old country boy, unless there is doubt about the outcome of the game, it isn’t worth playing.
by JLF on Sep 8, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Get used to the schedule
because I don’t think too many teams from the better conferences will be scheduling you in the future. At least not in Boise. Why put up with the hassle for such a small payday. The post-game incident does not reflect well on BSU’s program either.
I think you meant
the post-game incident does not reflect well on Oregon’s program. I still can’t understand why some feel this is Boise’s problem. “Hout taunted him!” So? Have you ever seen a football game? Have you ever seen Blount? He wasn’t passing out well-wishes before the game, and he wasn’t passing out congratulations after the game.
Boi Blue
BSU has been taking a lot of heat nationally for how it handled both the Hout non-suspension, as well as the absolute mishandling of the situation by the BSU video board crews. On top of this, if I were BSU, I would ban the fan that baited and then threw a punch at Blount from Bronco Stadium for at least a year. Yes, Blount was wrong in even moving towards the stands, but fans like that (for either side) have no place being in any college football stadium.
BSU’s handling of the aftermath has simply not looked very good to many. You may not care, but that’s what they think.
While Blount looked bad, the University reacted in such a way that it’s receiving mostly praise for it’s actions.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Still not getting it
I still don’t understand why anybody thinks Hout should get a suspension. How many players are suspended for taunting? None. If Blount hadn’t thrown the punch then nobody would say anything about Hout. Should Blount have been suspended for his comments before the game? No.
However, what Hout did does not fit the mold at Boise State, and you can bet Coach Pete is running his ass off as we speak. He might even lose playing time, but that doesn’t mean BSU should have to publicly announce it.
I agree about the scoreboard operator, and that was already dealt with by the school.
As for the fan, I don’t want to see any Bronco fans acting like that, but at what lengths should the university go to in order to find this person? Also, from the video I saw I’m not convinced that he actually threw a punch, and let alone made contact. It seems to me like people just want to find ways in which Boise State caused this. I don’t see any blame other than Blount, therefore, no suspensions in Boise.
I just don’t see why people are out for Boise when Blount blind-sided a Boise player, fought with his own team, and charged fans. Just because it happened in Boise?
Boi Blue
I just don’t see why people are out for Boise when Blount blind-sided a Boise player.
Because Boise State has handled the aftermath of the situation very badly. It obviously doesn’t excuse Blount’s action. But two wrong’s don’t make a right. Also, no one is saying that Boise State “caused” anything, simply that their reaction has been less than stellar.
Now, I don’t care so much about the Hout suspension. But Boise State University looks foolish with how it “dealt” with the video board operator, and the total lack of effort to stop completely inappropriate fan behavior.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Taunting before the game is trash talking. Taunting during the game is trash talking (And illegal). Taunting after the game, is poor sportsmanship. Taunting after the game, when you won, is a complete douche-bag move.
Get it now?
If Blount hadn’t thrown the punch then nobody would say anything about Hout. Should Blount have been suspended for his comments before the game? No.
People need to get some perspective on Blount’s comments before the game. I think what he said was completely justifiable, and blown way out of proportion. I don’t want to sound like an apologist for Blount, but I want the discussion to be fair. He was watching game film, and an SI reporter was talking to him about the 2008 cheap shots from Boise. He was being probed so the writer could get a good story.
Also, from the video I saw I’m not convinced that he actually threw a punch, and let alone made contact.
So, let me ask this, what if Blount swung at Hout, but he missed. Would that change everything? Not in my mind.
The guy clearly was, at the very least, hunted Blount down, and attempted to make some form of contact. Real classy.
I just don’t see why people are out for Boise when Blount blind-sided a Boise player, fought with his own team, and charged fans.
This isn’t even the discussion. Everyone has condemned Blount’s actions. Action has taken in that area. The only real discussion relating to that is how Oregon adjusts their game plan and depth chart.
"It’s spelled E-L-F T-U-S-H"
Well,
I’m going to have to give up on this discussion, it’s simply two different views. You say the fan hunted down Blount? So Blount ran toward the fans after punching several people, and you claim the fan hunted him down? That guy looked like an immature idiot, sure. But do you want BPD to put an all-points bulletin out for him? Bring in the FBI to find his identity?
As for Hout, to me it is this simple. Would any university suspend a player for taunting? No. So Pete will run Hout into the ground all week as punishment for not living up to team standards. But suspend him? Just doesn’t make sense to me.
Also, if I may, I think Blount’s suspension was too long. I think people forget about all that happened after the punch, but I feel bad for the kid because it was such an obvious lash out of frustration. I have a similar feeling about the scoreboard operator. He thought he was Graham Watson for a second and botched the situation. He messed up, has been reprimanded, and will likely be fired if he does something like that again. Do you think he should be fired? That’s harsh.
Good luck the rest of the season and take the Pac. Peace
Boi Blue
Mr. Revenge was clearly hunting him down before Blount turned around on the crowd.
Don’t be ridiculous but putting up silly things like I’m expecting the FBI to get involved.
I honestly could care less about what happens to Hout. I’m not asking for him to be suspended.
Blount was out of control. I think the suspension is sufficient.
The guy running the replay likely just got a “Don’t do that next time” talk. Which is insufficient. He could have instigated a freaking riot.
Mr. Revenge was way out of line, as demonstrated by video. His head was screwed about 1 twist tighter than Blount’s.
"It’s spelled E-L-F T-U-S-H"
Coach Pete said it best,
He said if every team suspended every player who taunted and talked trash to the other team before or after the game, nobody would be able to even field a team.
Most players smack talk or taunt the opponents, pregame and post game.
Byron Hout was no different. He said, “How’s that for an ass whuppin’?” play the video back and read his lips.
If Blount hadn’t opened his mouth before the game, Hout wouldn’t have after the game.
Either way all of it was uncalled for. the performance of the defense spoke for itself. The replay guy must be a twit, or a fan, or me. The fans who threw punches were as heated and as ignorant as Blount was. Push.
I don’t really care about the antics anymore. Nor do I intend to gloat over the win. The game was evidence of who the better team was.
My only hope is that the powers that be schedule a series again in the future.
It was great fun jeering all of you! Much more exciting than preparing for a 40 point beatdown of (pick a WAC team).
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
Well put, JLF, though I’m not sure we’ve quite fallen to Idaho status.
To some degree both fan groups have at least some interest in Oregon getting their act together. What a strange, strange game. At times I thought Boise played well enough to win by 40, and at times poorly enough to let that game get away from them. I’d like to believe both teams are better than they looked. I have no doubt Boise will prove that to be true. I have cautious hope that Oregon will do the same.
Last time I checked, there is no "Hall of Average." - Oregon Football Coach Chip Kelly
40 point win
Absolutely! If the O played as well as the D we would have had at least two more TD’s and likely a third. But they didn’t. You can attribute that to first game of the year stuff. I have to agree with what someone else said when they commented on the first half being a coaching failure. A team like Oregon doesn’t go three and out 15 times unless there is a problem on the sidelines. You can blame the players for missing some assignments or not being able to read the other team’s defense, but not 45 times in the first half. Last year the Ducks whipped out three plays a minute. Something changed.
by JLF on Sep 8, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It is a coaching problem
Blaming the bad loss on the players makes me sick. Blount should have smacked Allotti. After BSU made a first few complete passes Allotti should have been screaming ot the defenders to COVER the receivers not just run around like chickens with their head cut off leaving them wide open. 15 first downs to zip is a coaching problem – if the coaches can’t see what is going on and correct it much sooner they should be suspended for a year! And what in the hell happened to the plays Kelly used to call that confused the defense? What happen to the play actions, Masoli running it every other time – when required. Blounts’ strengh is plowing up the middle. No team can win with the plays they were running or defensive plan they stuck with. Does the coaching staff understand we are going to be hosting Wazzo as a 0 and 4 team. Right when Blount should be returning from what would be a reasonable 3 game suspension.
The Ducks are bigger faster and more talented than BSU – what else could the problem be.
Ummm….many, many other things? This was a terrible analysis of the game, that really had almost no basis in what actually happened on the field. Not only are pretty much all of your football facts incorrect, but saying things like “Blount should have smacked Allotti” is simply laughable.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
First of all, if you suspended your coaches after one bad game, we would have a lot more bad games to follow. Coaches can only put players in a position to win. The players are the ones on the field executing (or not executing). If the coaches are calling plays that gives players opportunities, they need to take advantage of them. If they don’t, you can’t just say “oh that’s a coaching problem!”
The play calling was certainly suspect at times offensively but there were tons of missed opportunities. JTlight has a great rundown in one of the threads on the frontpage that details a few of those opportunities. That isn’t on coaching.
Does the coaching staff understand we are going to be hosting Wazzo as a 0 and 4 team. Right when Blount should be returning from what would be a reasonable 3 game suspension.
Glad to see your optimism for the season after one game has peaked. I also don’t think you are going to convince me that Blount shouldn’t be gone for the year giving his suspension in the offseason, his lack of game shape coming into camp, punching out a guy, getting into it with teammates and coaches and going after fans at BSU.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
You aren't serious about everything you just stated, are you?
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
Bigger and Faster - More Talent?
Maybe with a few players that is true. Remember one thing: BSU player stats you see online are high school numbers for the most part. They don’t get updated regularly. Even at that, more players than you know are recruited for their potential to improve and learn than proven talent. We don’t go after the highly recruited players. We never have. The key to BSU’s talent hunt is heart, commitment and will to win. If the recruit isn’t highly motivated they don’t want him. By motivated I mean the kind of kid who just hates to lose at anything – any sport. Losing is the worst thing in the world and they would do anything not to lose. That is the kid Boise wants. There have been more than a few proven talents that have been shown the door for losing focus. Pretty soon they just don;t fit anymore and the next thing you know they are gone.
by JLF on Sep 8, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
New Offense?
So I haven’t scoured the blogs yet, so I haven’t seen too many opinions on the actual play on the field. Everything has thus far been overshadowed by… Blount.
I just wanted to say that Thursdays game looked like they were really trying to get the passing game down, and that’s fine, but my only question is, why didn’t Masoli RUN more??? He id deadly when he runs and has proven terrible when he sits in the pocket. I dson’t know if its the pressure of sitting in the pocket or what, but he does not seem to do well there. His passing seems to be better when he is scrambling and catching the defense off gaurd. Recievers then come back and make play.
Thursday however, he was sitting in the pocket and throwing it to his first option everytime. The defense was all over it. And for the rushing… Blount should never run east/west, too slow against fast offenses, look at what he did against USC last year. Zero Yards. The guy is only good when its late in the game and defenses are tired from chasing faster smaller backs. like JJ of LMJ? Why is it that I feel like I am the only one with that opinion on Blount? Doesn’t matter now. But I feel if we would have used him in that capacity, he might have actually been able to rush for positive yards and then not been so heated. Not saying the event was anyone’s fault but his own.
Ok so that was a bit of a ramble, but basically, I think the playc alling was spotty at best. I don’t think Chip had his players ready for that game in the slightest. Can we please scrape something together for the rest of the season so I can sleep at night.
great take. Agree. I would recommend checking out JT’s post breaking down some of the plays. Some of it mentions very similar points
http://www.addictedtoquack.com/2009/9/7/1018145/who-are-you-and-what-did-you-do#comments
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
I agree
The guy is only good when its late in the game and defenses are tired from chasing faster smaller backs. like JJ of LMJ
I remember thinking all game “where is LMJ?” then they gave him the ball and he had a nice run…I think with the offensive line being what it is, a faster quicker RB is what the ducks needed to be able to run for any yards. I mean after watching the chip kelly show and seeing BSU’s three man rush get two men into the backfield we can’t expect to see the line block in the secondary and open things up for the spread as we have seen the last two seasons. A quick back who can break through small holes and make things happen is the only thing I see working for the running game. In otherwords that is how I’m trying to take the loss of Blount as a positive.
by oregonsportsaddict on Sep 8, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice videos, I can see it
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
Darron Thomas
Have you guys seen Rob Moseley’s blog regarding today’s practice? Thomas is an option at RB, if there are any significant injuries. His frame appears to be quite fragile to be playing RB at this point. Do we have any other options? What are all your thoughts?
After watching Cincinnati destroy Rutgers with that big guy running the wildcat inside the 10 yard line…Yeah, I’d say give the ball to Ed Dickson at the goal line.
Beyond that, we do have two walk-on RBs, in case our emergency turns into a double-secret emergency. See freshman Craig Loper and sophomore Jide Shinaba.
Last time I checked, there is no "Hall of Average." - Oregon Football Coach Chip Kelly
I have eligibility
and no football experience past middle school, put me on the roster and I’ll go to grad school
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
I wouldn't like that.
He would get snapped in half.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
Malachi Lewis has good size but I’ve hear over and over again that he’s a slow dude. Seriously, can he be that slow?
I don't think he's slow...
Unless the coaches think he’s too slow to run the ball, he’s shown good enough speed to get downfield. I think he’s best as a TE but it’d be great to see him trucking some guys in a TZR-like position.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.
I really am so looking forward to seeing LMJ run all over the field. I don’t care if the guy is a little freshman. Quizz did it last year, and he’s one of the top RBs in the PAC-10. Man, I cannot wait to catch Saturday night’s game.
GO DUCKS!
Agreed. Our biggest failure in the BSU was not getting him the ball more going outside. With the defense that BSU was running, on a lot of plays, he’s 10 yards up the edge of the field before even being touched….
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Not gonna lie...
When he got that first touch and took it for 12-15 yards I was a little scared, then the coaches sat him down the rest of the game and I felt better
LMJ touched the ball twice. Once, the O-line broke down, he still took it for 5-6 yards. The other was on a sweep which took him 10 yards up the field before being touched. The outside edges were the biggest weakness of the BSU defense, and the Oregon coaching staff did not capitalize on that.
I think what made the Oregon running game so great last year was the JJ had the speed to get outside, and make the defense move so much. And then Blount pounded them in the end when they were tired. It was a great combo, one that was not continued last game.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Darren Thomas
I have to think that if Coach doesn’t play Thomas more often, you will see further failures in the aviation dept. If Thomas had been in the game during the whole third quarter last year, Oregon would not have lost. Its that plain and simple. I know he is rough around the edges and inconsistent and the other things second year quarterbacks are. But the way he strung three TD’s together bang bang bang in the fourth quarter and that we had no answer for him, just impressed the hell out of me. I mean how do you defend the wild man look?
I think that basing who plays QB based on one quarter of play is pretty much a very bad idea.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I suppose so. But in Oregon’s case, your current guy can’t throw. I know I hold a minority view but when you take the season as a whole last year, you get a more complete picture. The 50% completion rate in Thursday’s game seems to be in sync with that. You can’t blame that on poor coaching this year. You have to get the ball where the receiver can catch it. I like good football whomever is playing. And I get goose bumps when I see any player on any team do exceptional things on the field. But I also think I have a good sense of who can do the job and who can’t. Masoli has shown more often than not that he can’t do the job Oregon needs to have done. Oklahoma excepted. Remember the blind pig and the acorn story? If not: “Even a blind pig can find an acorn now and then.”
by JLF on Sep 8, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That should have been Oklahoma State and I left out Arizona and Masoli’s 80% completion. Now if he had played like that….
by JLF on Sep 8, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Masoli has shown more often than not that he can’t do the job Oregon needs to have done.
OK then. Thanks for watching 1/15th of his total work.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Sep 8, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dropped Passes
Don’t forget there were a few of those, I don’t think we can truly judge Masoli off of one game, now he definitely showed me that he isn’t the best QB in the Pac-10 and that dark-horse heisman talk is at best laughable, but remember Jared Zabransky at Georgia and his redemption after that. I think Masoli will be alright
Duck Fan
Is Duck fan permanently soured by the BSU thing? I mean I think you guys would want some serious payback here. When and where?
honestly, given all the off the field stuff that has come with both games, I’m really not interested in a series full of cheap shots, sucker punches, apologies, and non-apologies.
We lost the games, I accept that. I’m ready to move on. Sometimes you need to cut your losses and this feels like one of those times. It’s just my opinion, but I think we lose more than we gain by continuing the series.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
The thing I would like to know...
Is Coach McGuirk wearing a body suit…complete with attached gloves and footies?…is that a permanent full body tattoo? I am seriously concerned about this! Does Coach Kelley have a similar body suit and just keeps it covered up? Maybe we’ll never know…
On the real though, its been fun for the last year with you guys. I don’t think that we will encounter another group of fans quite like you all! Tear up the PAC-10! I will be rooting for the Ducks from here on out!
Ridonkulous!
Thanks intern...
have fun with Miami (Ohio) next week. I think they scored 0 in their opener – talk about anticlimatic. In fact, I just went to the box score and saw that they had 188 yards of offense at home against Kentucky. Please hold them to negative yards, so that the world can see what a truely prolific offense we are.
not at home.
The game was played at Paul Brown Stadium in Cincinnati. Neutral site sorta thing.
Boise State - The best in all the land (The "land" being Idaho, and large parts of California, Oregon, and Nevada.)
I'm still not ready to face Thursday's debacle
but the ‘Home Movies’ reference grants me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference.
That, and pharmaceuticals.
I'm Impressed
You are a most benevolent bet winner. I probably would have stuck the knife somewhere other than their big toe. Then again, I don’t have the sage advice of the intern to back me up.
You are right, they have plainly suffered enough. I’ve never seen so many eat their own words like this on the blogs and forums.
Long live OBNUG!!
Go Broncos!!
And now the game has been won…
Go Ducks!!!
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