Lache Seastrunk commits to Oregon
by jtlight on Jan 27, 2010 2:31 PM PST
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Lache (pronounced "Lake") Seastrunk, one of the top RB's in the 2010 class, and a 5* running back listed as 3rd in the nation according to Rivals, has verbally committed to the Ducks during a press conference at his high school in Temple, Texas. Seastrunk chose Oregon over USC, Auburn, LSU, and Memphis.
Seastrunk has widely been regarded as the "next Reggie Bush," due to his incredible speed and agility. In Chip Kelly's offense, we can be sure that he will be used to his greatest potential.
Seastrunk adds yet another big player to Oregon's 2010 recruiting class, which is quickly shaping up as one of the best in school history.
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Does anyone have a list of the 5-star guys the Ducks have brought in since 2000? Just curious to see where this stands in the history of Ducks recruiting and how many of our 5-star recruits turned into beastly Beaver-killing machines.
J-Stew was a 5 star. Beaver killin’ machine not so much.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Not like he ran
For almost 200 yds on them with a bum toe or anything
Under winter skies
We stand glorious
And with Oden on our side
We are victorious
by WhiteRabbit on Jan 27, 2010 2:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Isn't the list
Like haloti and snoop and that’s it?
Under winter skies
We stand glorious
And with Oden on our side
We are victorious
by WhiteRabbit on Jan 27, 2010 2:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Wasn’t Cam Colvin and the other guy from De La Salle a 5*? The one who was tragically killed?
by SeattleDucks on Jan 27, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Ca
Under winter skies
We stand glorious
And with Oden on our side
We are victorious
by WhiteRabbit on Jan 27, 2010 2:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think Terrence Kelly was a 4*
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I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
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Wasn't Harris a 5*?
Or Harper? I can’t remember.
Addicted To Quack. If you’re not into the whole brevity thing.
I wouldn't say killing Hitler was tragic
Or any of the serial killers we’ve killed over the years.
by HoodRiverDuck on Jan 27, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
But we didn't kill Hitler.
He was a DIY job.
I’m sure he’d consider it tragic, though.
everything is history, eventually.
If our historian says it, it must be true.
Only losing THREE starters from the USC game. (Offense and Defense)
Ladies and Gentlemen your 2010-11 Oregon Ducks.
by QuackQuackAttack on Jan 27, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
Rivals only goes back to 2002
2002:
Haloti Ngata
Chris Solomona (DT)
2004:
Cam Colvin
2005:
J-Stew
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
There was as Somoan guy I thought was 5* and didn't turn out Halotti level... Simi Filipi or something?
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."-Pablo Picasso
by Bill Musgrave on Jan 27, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
Wow. The grammar police are going to have a field day with your comment!
But yes, by all accounts Chris Solomona did not turn out to his potential , and Simi Fili did not manage to qualify academically.
Kenjon Barner in a DNA helmet. 'Nuff said.
Not bad company for Seastrunk
I think Colvin would have turned into a star if he’d had an extra year without injury. It looks like overall the odds are good that when we actually bring in a star kid they can really play. I can’t wait to see how Seastrunk looks in green and yellow!
by JonathanPDX on Jan 28, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
5-stars who drop USC from consideration get dropped to 4 by rule.
For the same reason that 3-stars who USC expresses sudden interest in become 4s, at least.
everything is history, eventually.
Lache
Welcome to Oregon. Sorry you had to run the Wing-T offense in high school. That offense is designed for slow white guys (see Canby). Now prove Rivals and ESPN wrong for ever doubting you.
Love,
Chip Kelly
~ How much for the little girl? Your women - how much for the women? The little girl your 2 daughters, sell them to me, SELL ME YOUR CHILDREN!~
by My Name is Bryce on Jan 27, 2010 2:39 PM PST reply actions
Here's another interesting development: Kenbrell Thompkins, JC transfer, classy receiver, getting outta Tenn. commitment and,
considering Oregon (and Cal, boo)
http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/category/football/
"We'll go."
as long as he’s never been on his bus…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Jan 27, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well,
with Lowe, Lache, Williams et al. coming in to add to already deep arsenal of offensive talent, it may not matter what we line up on the defensive side of the ball.
Let’s steal a couple dline commits.
See Duck fans, I still love you.
-God
~ How much for the little girl? Your women - how much for the women? The little girl your 2 daughters, sell them to me, SELL ME YOUR CHILDREN!~
by My Name is Bryce on Jan 27, 2010 2:45 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I tell you what, early on this offseason, I would have never expected we would get Lache. After he didn’t visit at the USC game, I thought that was that. Sure glad I’m wrong!
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Explanation of Rival's raiting system.
I think it’s better to follow the rating system, as 4-star recruits can fall between 5.8 and 6.0. Obviously a 6.0 player is as close to a 5-star as you’re going to get.
Here’s how Rivals explains it:
The ranking system ranks prospects on a numerical scale from 6.1-4.9.
* 6.1 Franchise Player; considered one of the elite prospects in the country, generally among the nation’s top 25 players overall; deemed to have excellent pro potential; high-major prospect
* 6.0-5.8 All-American Candidate; high-major prospect; considered one of the nation’s top 300 prospects; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team
* 5.7-5.5 All-Region Selection; considered among the region’s top prospects and among the top 750 or so prospects in the country; high-to-mid-major prospect; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team
* 5.4-5.0 Division I prospect; considered a mid-major prospect; deemed to have limited pro potential but definite Division I prospect; may be more of a role player
* 4.9 Sleeper; no Rivals.com expert knew much, if anything, about this player; a prospect that only a college coach really knew about
You can see the popup here:
Harris and Harper were both 6.0. Seastrunk, Ngata, Stewart were all 6.1.
Addicted To Quack. If you’re not into the whole brevity thing.
Because 6 is higher than 2.8. Duh.
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Since everyone is commenting in here now, I would just like to say
that I saw a license plate here in South Carolina that said:
TZR 024
and I’m going to go create a prospect in NCAA 10 by the name of Seastrunk.
Only losing THREE starters from the USC game. (Offense and Defense)
Ladies and Gentlemen your 2010-11 Oregon Ducks.
by QuackQuackAttack on Jan 27, 2010 3:26 PM PST reply actions
Lake, really?
I’ll be calling him LaChe’. The la-latest in a la-long la-line of superstar Duck la-backs.
Lache is Spanish for "The Lake"?
Ducks stackin' wins like Leggos, toastin Pac-10 like the Eggos, like we're racin' against some preggos, Dan Patrick we enfuego.
by PacBellBoozer on Jan 27, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Off topic
Is there any way I can change my login to HoodRatDuck?
by HoodRiverDuck on Jan 27, 2010 3:33 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Does anyone have video of him announcing?
I missed it, due to bowling practice.
Only losing THREE starters from the USC game. (Offense and Defense)
Ladies and Gentlemen your 2010-11 Oregon Ducks.
by QuackQuackAttack on Jan 27, 2010 4:01 PM PST reply actions
So amped to hear this good news.
Lets see what the past news has been. Masoli and Embry are now taking the roles of Bonnie and Clyde. Owa dropped us. We stopped recruiting King. Our Basketball team has regressed.
And now finally some great news!
Kenjon Barner in a DNA helmet. 'Nuff said.
Have you seen Masoli’s hair? It flutters in the wind…
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
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It’s like polamalou hair:)
"Know What I mean Vern?"
by DuckyDude420 on Feb 2, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
All but one of our recruits this year
Is a 3-star or better. Is this real? Are we really actually getting the elite ones now?
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I hardly consider Drew Howell to be a 2 star recruit.
He is the best long snapper in the nation. Rivals apparently does not care about Long Snappers, but he is a great pickup.
Kenjon Barner in a DNA helmet. 'Nuff said.
You must be kidding.
Or have you really been combing the longsnapper ranks on Scout/Rivals?
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
I have not looked at the long napper rankings on Rivals (do they even have LS rankings?).
However, I do know that he is among the best in the nation at his position.
Kenjon Barner in a DNA helmet. 'Nuff said.
I didn't even know you could recruit a kid to be a longsnapper.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Drop it Quinn, CaDuck’s right on top of this one. I read exactly the same thing a few days ago, I just can’t remember where. I think it was in Moseley’s review of special teams. I’ll take a rock-solid long snapper any time.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
If my kid is big enough, I’m training him to be a long snapper. If you can get good at it, it might be the easiest path to the NFL.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Have him start punting at about age two. Seriously, Nerf ball, rubber football, whatever. Plays 4 to 6 snaps a game on a decent team and it’s actually a penalty to hit him.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
Good point. Just like in baseball, he’s gonna be a catcher who calls a good game and plays great defense. Play 20 games a year as a backup, make a million dollars a year.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Lots of leg exercises, trained from birth for punting.
One leg ends up bigger than the rest of his body, so be it.
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."-Pablo Picasso
by Bill Musgrave on Jan 27, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
You wear pants, no one notices.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
First of all, I do not wear pants.
But second of all, I forgot what second of all was.
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."-Pablo Picasso
by Bill Musgrave on Jan 27, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
both of you are pansies. My son is knocking over fire hydrants and form tackling our pit bull and he’s only 4 (I make sure he tackles every dog he sees, getting ready for huskies already)
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
I’m no pansy! The fact that the highest contact sport I played was basketball is irrelevant.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Should I bring up your bowling conversation pansy boy?
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
I play golf. That is my response to that question.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
I think bowling is, at minimum, a blue collar activity.
You’re supposed to drink too much and get in a fight in the parking lot with Stan afterwards.
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."-Pablo Picasso
by Bill Musgrave on Jan 27, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
After all,
We are all ’Mericans. I tell you what.
by HoodRiverDuck on Jan 28, 2010 7:06 AM PST up reply actions
Was trying to counter the point that bowling is pansy.
No problem whatsoever.
I’ll be in the parking lot of 300, Austin’s best bowling alley, if anyone wants to fight tonight.
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."-Pablo Picasso
by Bill Musgrave on Jan 28, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
Dumbass,
You are not supposed to talk about Fight Club.
LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Remene Alston + Kenaon Lowe + ...
You seemed to not have a problem mentioning it.
That means you broke 2 rules.
Only losing THREE starters from the USC game. (Offense and Defense)
Ladies and Gentlemen your 2010-11 Oregon Ducks.
by QuackQuackAttack on Jan 28, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
Ha, it's like a pavlovian response at this point, eh?
Chihuahuas, pugs, no matter, dog walks by, angry face goes on, then BAM.
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."-Pablo Picasso
by Bill Musgrave on Jan 27, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
He then gets rewarded with treats of ice cream and beer and a hardy “atta boy”
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
I like it, a real fucking animal. He'll be ready to redshirt this year.
He could also teach my dogs some manners.
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."-Pablo Picasso
by Bill Musgrave on Jan 27, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry Quinn. Here’s the Moseley link
and Howell’s no. 5 rating at longsnapper by Scout.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
The best part is...
His arrival can move Michael Clay 100% to linebacker. Having Clay as a backup if needed is more of a bonus.
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
Clay is going to be a very good linebacker.
He played well when he was on the field this season, I imagine that he will see the field more often this season.
LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Remene Alston + Kenaon Lowe + ...
I’m excited about Kaddu as well. He did an excellent job when he was playing. Bummer of an injury for him.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Kaddu is my sleeper next year for player of the year. Guy is a beast. Don’t forget about Kiko Alonso either. He’s got two more years and will fill in nicely. Our LB’s are 2 deep easy once Kaddu comes back.
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
Not to mention,
We have guys like Boseko Lokombo and Bryson Littlejohn that could earn their way onto the field for more time.
LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Remene Alston + Kenaon Lowe + ...
"on the field *last season"
LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Remene Alston + Kenaon Lowe + ...
I'd like to get a few of those Texas linemen.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
I would like a nice rack of Texas smoked ribs.
Delicious!
Kenjon Barner in a DNA helmet. 'Nuff said.
racks in texas are great. well at least in Austin.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Well, the racks are of course bigger in Texas....
wait, we were talking about ribs? huh?
Only losing THREE starters from the USC game. (Offense and Defense)
Ladies and Gentlemen your 2010-11 Oregon Ducks.
by QuackQuackAttack on Jan 27, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
5 pac-10 schools in the top 25?
If you need me, I’ll be getting comfortable in the cellar thank you very much.
Wulff seems like he is doing a decent job rebuilding WSU.
Is that not true?
Kenjon Barner in a DNA helmet. 'Nuff said.
He's recruiting (at least by our standards)
I’m not confident about his gameday coaching and it’s too early to tell about his player development. If he doesn’t show improvement this year, I’m guessing he gets the axe.
If he doesn’t show improvement this year, I’m guessing he gets theaxe.axemen23
This is how you send him to purgatory.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
if wulff keeps it up...
Were gonna make him talk football with axeman on sbn. Ill set the over under on reply fails at 20
by Brian Floyd on Jan 27, 2010 8:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Does axeman even talk about football?
I mostly hear boasting of some victory in a contest involving a jersey. Or zubaz pants.
It was thought that the "Hanger" beat all shots. Then, the "Balancer" was discovered.
i wanted punishment
I never expected intelligent football discussion from either party
by Brian Floyd on Jan 27, 2010 8:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
i wanted punishment
I never expected intelligent football discussion from either party
by Brian Floyd on Jan 27, 2010 8:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Double post fail!
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
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you know what I find funny about that. We pick up Lowe and Lache and it moves us up, but it also moves UW out of the top 25….
Hehe, huskies
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
well they wouldn't want a guy like him anyway
He’s obviously a guy who “fits the system” and they play REAL football up there.
on Conquest Chronicles they mentioned how they didnt have room for Lache. its nice of them to share with us.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
my mistake:
Don’t be sad about this, we don’t need him or his potential problems.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Avoiding Problems? Coming from a team that just hired Lane Kiffin?
LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Remene Alston + Kenaon Lowe + ...
that is a classic win win win situation
in case you are wondering the third win is Washington dropping again. I hate them so much its a win twice
I Don't Yell O I SCREAM!
Gorgeous stuff.
Not to mention, the Husky class has got to be very full, our still has 6 or so spots open.
Kenjon Barner in a DNA helmet. 'Nuff said.
I don't know where else to put this, so...
From Chad Ochocinco’s facebook… his daughter, Chadé, inscribed her name as Chadé Ochocinco on her math homework:
Nice.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
How does that work legally? Is her legal name still Chade Johnson? Or does it change with dad because she’s a minor?
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
I think her name is legally Chadé Johnson, but I'm not sure.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Her guardian (in this case Chad) will have the right to change it for her. When she reaches age of majority she can change it back or to whatever she wants
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
Assuming the class stands as composed (it obviously won't)...
…who would the fine denizens of AtQ leave eligible for their freshman years? And who would receive redshirts?
I would use Curtis White, both of Seastrunk and Williams, Keanon Lowe and Dior Mathis (assuming, of course, that he’s able to pull a Cliff Harris). Also, I’d keep Ryan Clanton redshirted so that our O-line continues to be super studly.
by Freeing Ray Schafer on Jan 27, 2010 9:23 PM PST reply actions
I feel like redshirting Seastrunk and Bennett at the very least would be good.
White doesn’t even need to be eligible yet, but again, none of us know until fall camp, really.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
I doubt that Coach Kelly would redshirt Seastrunk.
Even if he wanted to, it would be tough to justify sitting a recruit of the caliber, and of that speed. Bennett is a definite redshirt candidate though.
LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Remene Alston + Kenaon Lowe + ...
I think he should redshirt all that he can. It worked out pretty well for LaMichael. That said, it sounds like White and Seastrunk are probably physically ready to perform at the next level. The others might be, but we shall see when they face some Pac-10 championship starters in practice.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
Bennett needs to red shirt (more years for Thomas). Seastrunk, White, Lowe et al… let them fight it out for playing time.
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
James was a 3-star RB, no one thought he'd be this good
Lache is different, he carries expectations like J-Stew did. Cant’ resdshirt him.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Can someone please tell Chip Kelly that I helped recruit Lache?!
I told yall twice before that I told him to go to Oregon in the Summer of ’09 at the 7on7 State Tournament down in College Station, Texas (Texas A&M). He was wearing a USC wristband and socks…yarrr…
A simple, “Thanks Jeff” would suffice.
Many can try to imitate, but there can be only one...Masoli.
Axemen knows everybody, ask him.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Great News
Coincidentally, about an hour after reading about Lache’s verbal commitment, I met a guy on a commercial set who is one of Chip Kelly’s oldest friends. He’s a D.I.T. (basically he rents out cameras for movie and commercial filming) and he overheard me talking about UO and Lache. He flashed me an “O” and started chatting with me. Turns out, he’s known Chip since they were 4 and attended school with him all the way up to UNH. They even played hockey together in high school. The guy showed me a pic of an email Chip had just sent him of D (the guy I met), Chip, and one other friend in 1981. They looked straight out of Animal House. Hilarious.
It was interesting to hear some of the inner-workings of Chip’s brain/past. Apparently, Chip is exactly the same off camera/field as he is on camera/field. Cool, down-to-earth, easy going, and just an honest guy who loves what he does. Unfortunately, D told me to enjoy the ride while it lasts, because Gruden plans on implementing the spread into the NFL, and once it catches on there, CK will become the hottest coaching prospect in college. I’m just hoping to get a good 7 years, 2 national titles, 5 Pac-10 championships, 1 Heisman winner and 1 Heisman runner-up ;)
Anyway, what about nicknames for our newest Duck? I saw someone write The Lacheness Monster. Not bad.
I was thinking Land-O-Laches…smooth as butter. Seriously though, great news. I loved hearing about Lache’s commitment the same day I met CK’s oldest friend. Go Ducks.
Gruden plans on implementing the spread into the NFL, and once it catches on there, CK will become the hottest coaching prospect in college.
Wondering how Gruden plans on “implementing the spread in the NFL”?
Through the power of boothside argumentative commentary, perhaps?
everything is history, eventually.
Sign Dennis Dixon
Let him run the offense.
That’s how you implement the spread in the NFL.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Hypothetical situation.
In five years, the Dallas Cowboys hire Chip Kelly to coach Dennis Dixon when he takes over for Tony Romo, who’s gone on to fame and fortune in his new career as a gay pornstar. At his first press conference after the hire, CK lets loose with a “HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!??!!”
Do I kill myself with:
A) Knife
B) Gun
C) Eddie Pleasant
by HoodRiverDuck on Jan 28, 2010 7:11 AM PST up reply actions
D) All of the above
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
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Go with C.
You die in any of the three cases, but in this case you get to experience the beauty of being destroyed by the Pleasant.
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."-Pablo Picasso
by Bill Musgrave on Jan 28, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Not to mention,
Option C is the quickest way to go. Not painless by any means, but much faster than a bullet.
LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Remene Alston + Kenaon Lowe + ...
Easy, here is the ultimate plan
Carolina signs Dixon (Oregon lineman [Schwartz], Oregon RB [Stewart], Oregon TE [Rosario]) added with the tough defense they already have and the speedy good receivers… then hire CK as O-coordinator… viola!!! Spread attack in the NFL.
I support the calls to fire Matt Daddy
Addicted to Quack
Unger’s a Seahawk.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
And Dixon’s a Steeler. Your point, and I’m sure you have one, is..?
everything is history, eventually.
My point is, I misunderstand things on the Internet all the time.
It's spelled "T-H-E-I-M-P-A-C-T"
I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Yikes
Definitely funny commentary.
But are you serious? Do you honestly think that a 47 year old, Super Bowl winning coach is done for good? Especially after being ousted by the team he led to a Super Bowl victory? Sorry dude. He might be in the booth for now; but you’ve got your head in the sand if you think Gruden won’t be back in the League when he’s good and ready.
And why would he be buddy-buddy with CK all of a sudden? And why would he attend CK’s practices and exchange info with Chip about offensive strategy? Is it because he plans on cooking cupcakes in the booth with Jaws for the next 17 years?
Gruden likes the booth now, and I sure as hell LOVE him on MNF and hope he stays for a bit; however, you don’t just walk away from coaching at 47 when you were as successful as Gruden was. The spread is slowly trickling into the NFL, and Gruden will be a major proponent of that once he returns.
You may have been COMPLETELY joking, therefore making my rant pointless. But in case you weren’t joking…
Defensive much? Relax. Most of us here are completely something.
Having said that, it seems to me that if it’s going to take 7 years for one guy who isn’t even coaching right now to install the spread in the NFL, it’s unlikely to happen.
Unless Gruden is the only person in the world who could possibly make the spread work in the NFL. Maybe he is, I don’t know. But it just seems to me that NFL defenses are just too fucking fast for any option attack to work reliably. It’s been tried, of course, but as we’ve seen, the spread tends to hang the QB out there a bit longer than normal. NFL owners don’t like seeing their million dollar babies crumpled on the turf.
everything is history, eventually.
Truth in your prose, there is. Yet…
Gruden isn’t the only guy to be able to do it. He’s just one of the first big name guys to endorse it. We’ve already seen glimpses of it. We’ve also seen a slow change to shotgun dominated offenses (Indy, Philly, and New England, namely).
At the same time, people forget, because of how much UO runs, that Chip’s offenses in the past were pass first. In fact, it was all predicated on the pass. He would continue to run his offense that way if he had a more reliable down field passing game.
I think what you’ll see in the NFL is a formation similar to—if not identical to—the one run by UO: a quarterback in the shotgun, 3 wide receivers split out wide, a tight end either on the line or split out, and a running back lined up to the right or left of the QB. However, instead of the QB keeping it often, he’ll hand it off in a traditional off-tackle stretch play and let the RB go. Outside of that, there will be lots of passing.
Spread doesn’t mean run first, or that you have to run QB option if the spread is used. It means exactly what the word means. Spread the field. What you do with it after that is up to the coach. In fact, Leech proved that you can utilize the spread and not run at all.
Well Right now...
Spread quartebacks are cheap as hell, draft Tebow, trade for Dixon and you have 2 competent spread quarterbacks for cheap….since no one else would value them…
The wildcat is starting to transform a spread-option like offense. Patriots already run a primarily spread offense.
That’s Pat White, running the option, in the NFL, with success.
NFL will never adopt a complete Spread-Option focused offense, but the spread-option will see some light in the NFL. Too many big college threats are coming out. The NFL will have to adapt.
NFL Teams will probably start putting in two QBs into rotation.
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Not sure about the two-QB thing.
Plays against the whole “star system” mentality.
And the media’s knee-jerk reaction to a situation like this is to make it a QUARTERBACK CONTROVERSY
IMHO, the wildcat is one of those fads, like ice beer, or dry beer, or beer with lime flavoring, or clear beer.
everything is history, eventually.
I disagree. I think it’s just a formation.
The thing about the Wildcat is that you still have your QB on the wide out. Chad Pennington threw a bomb from the wildcat formation.
The real resistance comes from coaches and owners wanting to protect their prized QB. The great QBs in the NFL make a lot of money. They want them to pass as much as possible, and never get hit. Lining up the QB out wide on a wildcat, they run routes, or block… or get a toss and throw it from the edge – Where the speed is.
The only way to defend an option or the wildcat is assignment football, which opens up the passing game.
No NFL team is going to run the wildcat 30 times a game, but they will run it because:
A. It IS successful.
B. It helps the rest of your game plan.
C. The talent needed to execute it is rising up.
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Then there's this
Pat white, option fail
But seriously, Miami has taken the wildcat to a whole new level bringing white in. They now have two talented running backs, a dual threat qb, and Chad Henne (one of these things is not like the other). They can get creative with their play calling and it seems to work. Going from a traditional offense to a wildcat/spread option is a nice change of pace that Miami capitalized on.
by Brian Floyd on Jan 28, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
it was a 7 yard gain (Which I call an NFL success, even on 3rd and 8). But he tried too hard to get that last yard. It was a nice thought, but he should have been smarter, and not try to square up and plow over an NFL DB, head first.
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Yep
It was more sarcasm about the option. There is an underlying truth in that kids that were dual threats in college and are turned in to wildcat QBs don’t know how to run right and avoid getting killed, but if you can run the spread option right as a change of pace and you have the personnel, it has show to be successful. You’re not seeing full offenses as it, but it now has it’s place in the playbook.
by Brian Floyd on Jan 28, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
I totally picked up on the sarcasm. I was just trying to continue the conversation.
If a QB squares up and takes on a defender, he’s either an effing hero, or an idiot, depending on the outcome.
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And considering the situation here
It probably wasn’t a good idea to square it up. Then again, watching it he gets his leg swept and is falling down when he gets just crushed by Taylor.
Another part of the problem is that defenders lead with their head way too much now. It’s not against the rules when tackling a ball carrier, but is against a QB in the pocket and defenseless WR. It’s part of the highlight reel nature of the game to want to get a big shot, but is also why you see so many former NFL players with brain problems…
Or he's a guitar thief, and a badass one at that.
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."-Pablo Picasso
by Bill Musgrave on Jan 28, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Rivals...
Has us ranked as the 13th class in the country right now…got to like it…I see a dynasty in the works now. The only thing that would be better would be if all of UW’s recruits decided they didn’t want to never play in a bowl game and decommited to make sarkheisel look bad. GO DUCKS
by oregonsportsaddict on Jan 28, 2010 3:40 AM PST reply actions
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