12 Pac Review: Oregon State bears down; Luck exploits the Tampa 2 late in the game and Oregon withstands some hot Cougar action
by Matt Daddy on Oct 10, 2010 8:00 AM PDT
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Print1. Oregon 43 at Washington State 23 - That was an ugly win. The injuries aside, the defense looked pathetic and guys weren't really flying to the ball until the second half. The blitz scheme was repetitive and WSU's offensive line was able to handle it rather well. Oregon's offensive line had another bad road game not being able to open holes for James and having quite a few penalties also. No matter, a win is a win in the Pac 10, and I'm sure that Kelly won't have much difficulty finding tape and things to work on as Oregon gets a little break until they take on UCLA on October 21st.
2. Stanford 37 vs USC 35 - I'm leaving Stanford at #2 because I still think they're the second best team in the conference, although I'd entertain an argument for OSU at #2 right now. "The Ficus" needed a late drive down the field with less than a minute to play to take down the Boys of Troy. USC isn't playing terrible, they just have a hard time stopping people when it matters. Not sure whether this is a matter of discipline, or understanding of Father Monte's scheme, but in back to back weeks, they've allowed a team to march down the field at the end of the game with a game winning field goals. Also, Kiffen Jr, you have 1st and goal at the 3 with about a minute to play and the clock winding, why didn't you make Stanford use their time outs or at least run some clock?
3. Oregon St 29 at Arizona 27 - You know it's October because Oregon State is finally winning games they shouldn't. Although this win came with a huge price, James Rodgers' knee. On a deep ball completion James Rodgers fought his way into the endzone when an Arizona defender pulled him down and Rodgers' knee buckled. He spent the remaining part of the game on the sideline in crutches and sweatsuits. Jacquizz and Katz took the team on their shoulders and finished off the victory. Katz went 30/42 for 393 yards and Quizz added 83 on the ground to take down the #9 Wildcats at home.
4. Arizona
5. California 35 vs UCLA 7 - I know Cal, this was a rivalry game for you and that's why you have to be in the same division as them in the Pac 12, right? Anyway, the Jekyll and Hyde UCLA team showed up once again as they never got anything going offensively and Cal just banged away with their backfield as they rushed for 304 total yards on the day. Kevin Riley was never really called upon to win the game for them as he only threw 16 passes all day, and UCLA still struggles to find any type of passing game as their two QB's combined to go 15/37 for 118 yards.
6. USC
7. UCLA
8. Arizona St 24 at Washington 14 - ASU scored 20 plus 4 more to beat the huskies. It seems like 20 and 4 are good numbers when playing against UW. Steven Threet was able to exploit a secondary with a lot of holes in the middle of it as he threw 21/34 for 288 yards. Once again Chris Polk rushed for over 100 yards in a losing effort (in 4 of the last 20 6 games he's rushed for 100+ yards the huskies have ended up losing). Doesn't get any easier for the huskies as Oregon State comes to town next week while ASU gets a much needed breather before heading to Cal on the 23rd.
9. Washington
10. Washington State
Utah 68 at Iowa St 27 - While everyone gushes over undeserving Boise and TCU for BCS hopes, Utah is quietly going about racking up huge win after huge win on crappy teams too. Obviously, Utah still has to play at Air Force and face TCU at home, but I'd say that that if they win both of those games their resume at the end of the year will be better than both TCU and Boise considering they also beat Pitt earlier in the year. So PaulSF, cry all you want for Boise getting jumped, I don't hear the same outrage over the fact that Utah wasn't even given the leg up at the beginning of the season as either of those teams in pre-season polls even though they're doing the same thing.
Colorado 0 at Missouri 26 - Colorado is a mess. Don't get me wrong, I'm super glad they're joining the Pac 12, but that team is a mess. How do you beat Georgia 29-27 and then go out and lay a goose egg to Missouri? I know Missouri is better, but CU is more erratic than UCLA right now. With CU joining the Pac it will be interesting to see how they try and put that team together to be competitive. This is a great market (Denver) with a really good history that is right now in the doldrums. If they get the right type of coach with the increase they'll see in revenue, CU could be a contender in the conference, then again, they could be WSU 2.0.
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Look at this stat I just saw on twitter
http://twitter.com/#!/OregonFootball/status/26944449662
http://twitter.com/#!/OregonFootball/status/26944886156
since the linky isn't right, here goes:
OregonFootball Oregon Duck Football
Opponents have returned 7 punts for a total of 8 yards #goducks
--Dave
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Proof positive of the Neuheisel Theorem.
My name is Cliff Harris, and I’m here to lock shit down.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2010 8:24 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’d say we have good special teams except we probably lead the nation in fumbled punt/kick returns.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 10, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Seven punts
in 6 games is pretty good. Less penalties and turnovers would really solidify a good thing.
Republicans are liars, Democrats are hypocrites, they are both bought and paid for by corporations. Grrr.
We've punted more than 7 times
We punted 11 in the ASU game alone, but most of them are not returnable.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
There was 20 punts coming into yesterday's game.
by Brian Floyd on Oct 10, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
There was were 20 punts coming into yesterday’s game.
/grammar nazi
--Dave
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by David Piper on Oct 10, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Woops!
I was not awake today.
Anyway, 22 punts after yesterday’s game. The 20 coming in were surprising to me.
That does make a lot more sense
still a decent stat, especially when compared to what we’re getting out of our punt return game.
Republicans are liars, Democrats are hypocrites, they are both bought and paid for by corporations. Grrr.
by shenanigans on Oct 10, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Oregon vs Wasou
From when it showed the Ducks coming out of the tunnel for the game I felt we were in trouble. It was not a team focusing on WTD but sort of a ho hum saunter (sp?). I hope they can get around the hype and not present like that for any other PAC 10 teams but the cougs or we can kiss any dreams of the NCS good bye.
Welp, the polls are out
We’re second in both the AP and the Coaches Poll. We received 15 first place votes in the AP poll and are only 26 points behind Ohio State. In the Coaches Poll we got 6 first place votes and are 67 points behind Ohio State.
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
LETS GO BADGERS!
They beat Ohio State next week in Madison, we’re #1 for the first time ever.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
For some reason, I’m not excited and thrilled to be No. 2, like I was in ’07.
I just want to win the Pac-10, and not worry about the polls.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-F-O-R-G-I-V-I-N-G-D-A-I-S-Y"
2007, the year of the curse of the #2 ranking
Something like 7 out of 8 weeks the #2 team lost in the polls that year.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
that year we faced a former #2 USF
And blew them out in the sun bowl, it was a crazy year
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by haveasoda on Oct 10, 2010 3:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I ageee. Still a lot football to go..
And a PAC-10 that as usual shows any team can step up at any point.
by bubbaluv on Oct 10, 2010 10:13 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The Ducks received six first-place votes in the coaches’ poll and 15 in the AP poll of media. Among those AP voters who tabbed the Ducks first were Andy Staples of SI.com, Doug Lesmerises, who covers Ohio State for the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, Kirk Bohls of the Austin American-Statesman and Craig James of ESPN. Oregon was as low as fifth, on two ballots, those of Mark Anderson of the Las Vegas Review-Journal and Ray Fittipaldo of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Afraid of being seen as biased?
John Hunt of the Oregonian voted for Ohio State as number 1 after all.
Although that makes Chadd Cripe of the Idaho Statesmen an oddman out for constantly voting up Boise State…
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
I refuse to care about any polls until after the last week of the season.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 10, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
No, I'm really not. I could care less. I care about wins and losses for the University of Oregon Ducks. That's all. We can control one thing-winning games.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 10, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope. Still don't care about the beauty contest.
Right now I care about getting healthy and getting ready for UCLA. That’s it. Polls are meaningless.
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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I could very easily say the same thing…but I’d be lying through my teeth. I absolutely care about the rankings. I want our team to be ranked as high as possible, even after week 6. Yeah, it’s meaningless right now, but in the grand scheme of things, so is college football. I like college football, and I like that our team is ranked top 2 in the nation.
If you can really not care about polls, good for you. You have willpower that I don’t. I do find it hard to believe that people who root as hard as most of us do for our team can look completely dispassionately on the rankings, but hey, maybe it’s easier for other people. I can’t do that. I want us #1, but for now, I’m happy with #2.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
My train of thought is that rankings really don't matter (at least in this system) until you're done playing regular season games.
I used to voraciously follow polls. Hell, I did for even part of this season. I’ve decided that it won’t matter as long as we win games, honestly. It’ll take some willpower, but I can do it.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 10, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh I’m completely aware that they don’t matter. Your logic makes sense. I just don’t care. I want my team to be ranked high and I’m going to yell and kick dirt if I feel Oregon gets disrespected in the polls.
I like it that way. I make no apologies.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Well, I guess you could say I've thrown a big middle finger to the pollsters. Their opinion doesn't affect me.
Our W-L record does, though.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 10, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I just have Chip Kelly syndrome.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 10, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
He can't help his feelings if he likes the way he's made.
My name is Cliff Harris, and I’m here to lock shit down.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not will power, it's apathy.
I’m at the point of not caring. I’ve given up worrying or wondering where we are ranked by some meaningless and useless organization like the AP (Fuck you Wliner) or Harris (there’s only one Harris I care about) or Coaches (pssh, yeah show me a coach that actually votes).
I’m apathetic to the entire process. We’ve been here and been burned. We’ve been here and burnt ourselves. In the grand scheme of things, I’ve realized it doesn’t matter here. Kelly is right. The coach speak is true. Win each week and then lift your heads and see where you are. Caring right now only causes you to get wrapped up into things that distract you from the real goal.
Also, it turns you into whiny bitches like BSU when you feel like half way through the process you’re getting cheated out of something you haven’t even earned yet. Being ranked #18 or #2 right now means the same thing. Nothing. See me after game 12, then I’ll care.
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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I care because its what makes football interesting monday through wednesday
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
its fun to see
but I’m not going to get worked up over it.
--Dave
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by David Piper on Oct 10, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
you will once we start actually projecting the races
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
there is nothing to project
if we go undefeated, we’ll finish in the top two. The much more likely scenario is that we don’t go undefeated. Either way, I’ve decided not to worry about it until the time comes. I’ve seen over and over again how futile it is this early in the year, and the epiphany finally came to me last week how stupid it is to freak out if we’re two or three this early in the year. If we’re undefeated and not in the top two in late November, then maybe I’ll look at it and panic. But its October right now.
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by David Piper on Oct 10, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you, it’s way too early to worry about the polls. If we take care of business all the bowl stuff will work itself out. If we screw up then our ranking doesn’t matter. Either way we alone control the Pac-10.
I’m really nervous about the second half of the schedule because, like you, I don’t think anyone in the Pac-10 goes undefeated. But I sure don’t want to see us lose. How do you go through six more games expecting to lose one while knowing that, if we win them all, we’re in the position to do something really special?
by JonathanPDX on Oct 10, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It's all about coverage.
The higher the ranking, the more ink your team gets. Your games are covered by the national media. You see features during Game Day broadcasts, even when they aren’t at your game that week.
And, to the extent that it’s positive coverage (i.e., not a Fulmer Cup scoring report), it helps recruiting.
The downside, of course, is how quickly your team can fall off the map after a couple of losses.
So, for me, the higher ranked we are, the better.. but it goes beyond bragging rights.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
You took...
The words right out of my mouth!! I was actually getting ready to post virtually the exact same thing! Polls, Rankings, National Exposure, etc is a great thing for a program! I think it’s especially true for recruiting and not ONLY for the football team!
Oregon landed a GREAT BB recruit due, in at least a small part, to his visit to our huge nationally televised Stanford football game..
The only thing I’m not a big fan of when it comes to being ranked high in the Polls, etc. is the pressure it puts on our team and the “target” it puts on our backs going into every upcoming game..
by SaintDuck3 on Oct 11, 2010 1:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
For me, I know the reason I can't bring myself to feel concern about the polls is that we remain undefeated.
I know that if we’re undefeated, we can control a great deal and watch the other undefeated teams gradually fall.
It was different just last year since the entire year we had to watch ourselves clime in the polls because we had one loss to our name the whole year. That’s when we couldn’t control our path to a National Championship game, so we had to pray for other teams to lose and the AP voters to recognize our success. The polls mattered then. And while I think any talk of a National Title is stupid at this point for the 2010 season, it is still the goal and so far we have done everything to keep in the running for it. We are completely in control of attaining that goal, which hasn’t been the case since 2001.
That’s the difference in poll apathy this year for me.
Ça plane pour moi.
I care about them in a vague sense. If we’re near what we ought to be, it’s just fun conversation to discuss whether this year’s team could get revenge on the Buckeyes or Broncos. If a team is like 5+ spots out of whack, that might move me to getting a bit worked up.
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 11, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
i dont care how ugly that win was – i’ll take it. weird things always happen to us in Pullman.
Katz vs DT is the new Quiz vs. LMJ.
I’m not sure who’s last three games are harder but the State of Oregon football is pretty good right now.
OS – vs USC, @ Stanford, vs Oregon
Oregon – @ Cal, vs. Zona, @ OS
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
sure, but I’m not sure why we should only focus on the last 3 … yesterday’s game should have taight us that every game on the schedule will be difficult
I didn’t read NEP’s post as focusing on that. I thought he was just saying each team has a tough final 3 stretch.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 10, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Haloti Ngata is now playing FB/TE on the goal line. scary.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Started doing that for two years now actually.
What I am waiting for is him carrying the ball. That will be fun.
I know Cal, this was a rivalry game for you and that’s why you have to be in the same division as them in the Pac 12, right?
You finally understand!!!
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The public & private rivalries and the geographic rivalries I'm fine with. It's the other pair I look askance at.
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 10, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I claim nine rivalries of varying degrees of seriousness.
Also, I would like to develop a rivalry with Nebraska, just because it seems like fun.
JonathanPDX's #5 Benzduck fan.
by Bill Musgrave on Oct 10, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I do really hope the Huskers and Buffs can keep up their rivalry, at least somewhat, from separate conferences.
Also, it blew my mind when Corn Nation pointed out that Nebraska won’t be NU anymore (due to Northwestern).
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 10, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd imagine so. Or just N? You can do that, right?
“Patrick Chung, the defensive back out of O.”?
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 10, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
this is gonna lead to a lot of one-liners in the future
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
TJ Ward blocked a FG attempt today by ATL's Matt Bryant
All our grads do is block kicks.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
The ball then instantaneously deflated
Ah Football, how I've missed you!
by AcadianTraverse on Oct 10, 2010 2:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Complaining about polls...
BSU complains about being jumped by us because they beat us last year. Imagine being South Carolina right now. Both them and Bama have 1 loss, yet Bama stayed ranked ahead of them despite South Carolina winning the head-to-head yesterday. Not that I really care…I actually was prepared for BSU to jump to #2 and stay at #3 after yesterday, it’s just interesting to me.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 10, 2010 11:44 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Projected BCS standings have Boise at #1 (us at #2)
Since the computers LOVE Boise but hate Ohio State.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
If that’s true, then the people making the argument earlier this week that the computers don’t hold much weight are WAY off. If fbsu is #3 in BOTH human polls, but #1 in the overall BCS because of the computers, that’s a textbook example of how the computers have MORE weight than the human polls.
I know this will all change because fbsu will drop in the computers as their schedule gets progressively worse, but that doesn’t change the fact that the computers hold so much weight. To me, if 2 teams are #1 and #2 in both polls it shouldn’t matter what the computers say.
Just thought of something though…we haven’t looked at the Harris poll. I wonder who the top 3 are and what the order is.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 10, 2010 11:58 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Ohio State is getting killed
I mean really killed. Boise’s SOS and computer rankings will only drop.
It only matters if the difference is huge, BSU is average rank 3rd and Ohio State 13th (we’re 6th).
At this time BSU is the ONLY team in the top 3 in all 3 elements (both polls and computers).
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I see. I’m on my phone and didn’t look at the spots the computers had us in. Still, the computers seem to have a pretty big weight. The team who’s #1 with the humans is dropped to #3 after the computers factor in.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 10, 2010 12:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If you want to talk about how much weight the “computer” polls have, it’s easy: there are three components: Coaches’ poll, AP poll, and “computer” poll. All three count equally.
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 10, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
The “computer” poll is also an aggregated poll of several computer polls.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-F-O-R-G-I-V-I-N-G-D-A-I-S-Y"
Sort of. What I’m calling ‘the “computer” poll’ is an aggregate of several mathematical rankings. But none of those rankings is a poll.
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 10, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s the Harris poll, not the AP poll, yes?
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by ProbablyMonty on Oct 10, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
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Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.
Yeah, my bad. Multitasking like hell today.
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 10, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
BSU is a consensus #1 in *all* known polls/rankings.
For what it’s worth,Massey Report has a composite of all 62 known rankings of FBS teams.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
Wait, how does this make them a consensus #1?
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 11, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Guess it depends on how you define "consensus".
They’re #1 in 25 of the 62 polls listed.
LSU is #1 in 22 of them, we’re #1 in 16, and the other 8 #1s are scattered about.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
I thought “consensus” meant “Everyone agrees on it.”?
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 12, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
It can also mean the general agreement of a group. Think of “consensus All-American” — according to the NCAA website:
The NCAA compiles consensus all-America teams in the sports of Division I-FBS football and Division I men’s basketball. These teams are compiled from a point system computed from at least four different all-America teams named by coaches associations or media sources. The point system consists of three points for first team, two points for second team and three points for third team. No honorable mention or fourth team or lower are used in the computation.
In football, the teams are compiled by position and the player accumulating the most points at each position is named first team consensus all-American. In men’s basketball, the teams are not compiled by position so the top five players in points are named first team consensus all-American and the next five are named second team consensus all-American. If there is a tie at a position in football for first team, or a tie for the final player on the first or second team in basketball, then the players who are tied shall be named to the team.
Currently in football, the five teams used to compile the consensus team are from the Associated Press, the American Football Coaches Association, the Football Writers Association of America, The Sporting News and the Walter Camp Foundation. In men’s basketball, the four teams used are the Associated Press, the National Association of Basketball Coaches, the U.S. Basketball Writers Association and The Sporting News.
So, a consensus first-team all-american is not someone who everyone agrees is first-team, but who the group generally agrees is best at that position using a voting-based system.
Ahh, okay. I’ve only previously heard it in football in the phrase “consensus champion” which distinguishes from “split championships,” and the related “consensus number 1,” where “consensus” means “we all, or almost all, agree on this.”
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 12, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Riley coaching theory...
There is simply way too much evidence to suggest the beavOs slow starts and strong finishes are either coincidence or a trend. A possible explanation dawned on me today, is Riley just bad at preparing for teams he does not play on a regular basis, and good at preparing for teams he plays year in and year out (conference play)?
their defensive scheme also takes a little while to pick up. so if there is a lot of turnover on D, it can a few games to get up to speed. i have a hunch playing a harder non-conf schedule than most leads to the slower starts…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
This year they had a really hard schedule, and they don’t tend to schedule cupcakes for the most part, but they should win SOME of the tougher non-conf games.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 10, 2010 12:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed. but when they’re taking pay-check games, its hard to get home games against non-conf good teams. who’s the last great team to play at Reser? Utah a couple years back?
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Cincy last year
When they went undefeated.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
but they weren’t considered a top program at the time of the game right?
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
they weren't a top program until they were like 10-0
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
It used to be easy to just say “well he takes these kids who aren’t very good and makes them better as the year goes along”. The problem is that their recruiting has improved considerably over the past few years, so they should be better early than they were 5+ years ago. I think there could be something in their coaching approach that has a lot more focus on the long term. Who knows though…I don’t know how you could ever know for sure unless you were embedded with them for the past 5 years doing a study, and even then you couldn’t know for sure.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 10, 2010 12:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
My thought was always...
that it was more of a strength than a weakness in line of what you said about developing players. After last night though, having another slow start with stars like the brothers Rodger, SP, and Katz showing NFL talent, and now looking much improved, I am starting to think this is more of a weakness in his coaching and it does the conference NO favors. The first idea that popped into my head is that the coaching staff is just simply comfortable with conference play and even with two camps before the season, they can’t figure out a way to come out swinging out of the gate.
So thanks BeavOs… if they go on to compete for the conference title you’ve just legitimized TCU and BSU’s schedules.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 10, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
School is in
Part of our problems yesterday may have been that the athletes at Oregon have actually had to become student/athletes.
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day
Um… I doubt that was the problem. Aren’t they practicing for the same amount of time as they were in the early part of the season?
"[Autzen Stadium's] steep concrete banks and closed ends turn a small but rabid crowd from WAC-sized cheering section into a horde of bees with megaphones capable of reaching 127 decibels of hatenoise." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Oct 10, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
don't most of them take some form of summer classes?
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
Hmm.. I'm Curious..
Was it just me or did anybody else get the feeling that towards the end of the game WSU wasn’t playing to win so much as they were playing to keep the loss from being a blowout?
It just seemed like they were more interested in running down the clock (And keeping Oregon’s offense off the field) as opposed to actually trying to get down into the end zone in a hurry..
by SaintDuck3 on Oct 10, 2010 2:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Agree completely
I was at the game and talking to a WSU fan who was frustrated. Down by 20 in the 4th and they continued to run, not stop the clock, etc. Not only that at the end of the 1st half, Wulff chose not to use one of their 2 remaining timeouts to stop the clock and allowed us to put up a hailmary instead of punting. Horrible game management.
by SeattleDucks on Oct 10, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
If I were a WSU fan, I would have liked to have gone for it on forth down at the end of the game
A post somewhere, not sure if here or on Justin.tv, said they were sending up the white flag. Sends a wrong message to a team that was fighting so hard. I know we probably would have gone to 50 if it failed, but even that would have been below the spread. Would have been epic for them if they made it.
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day
That wasn't the case at all
Should WSU have done nothing but pass? Because you know as well as I do that doing so against Oregon is a bad idea. Allowing the defense to pin their ears back and dial up different blitzes, while jumping routes, is an easy way to dig the hole all the way to China.
They had to at least try to catch Oregon off guard. Most of those runs were checks when Tuel saw less than seven in the box.
Whaaaaa?
Most of those runs were checks when Tuel saw less than seven in the box.
You mean it wasn’t Aliotti and his stupid scheme? How dare you sir!
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Well..
It wasn’t ONLY a matter of play calling, it was what appeared to me to be a complete lack of or sense of urgency.. At least IMHO, it looked & felt as though they just wanted to burn down the clock and get out of there without giving up anymore points..
Like I said, just my opinion is all.. I appreciate the feedback..
by SaintDuck3 on Oct 10, 2010 9:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
A serious question.
Can someone please explain to me why I often see our corners lined up eight yards off the ball? I don’t get why we would give opposing receivers a cushion like that.
No football like OREGON football....
by UOfootball on Oct 10, 2010 3:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
The obvious answer would be to prevent the big pass plays, but beyond that I couldn't say.
My yoke is heavy.
It seems like even in short yardage situations they are lining up that way, as if they are fine with conceding those yards and willing to let our opponents pick up the first.
No football like OREGON football....
by UOfootball on Oct 10, 2010 6:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It depends on the personnel. Some of the players can get such a great jump on the ball, that they line up deep to bait the QB.
It also depends on the Safeties. If it is a safety blitz, you want to play soft outside so you don’t get beat deep.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-F-O-R-G-I-V-I-N-G-D-A-I-S-Y"
thanks
I have been wondering about that one for a while. Do they tend to jam the receivers at the line a lot more in the NFL? It always seems like the NFL defensive backs make it so much harder for the receivers to get off ball and run as easy routes.
No football like OREGON football....
by UOfootball on Oct 10, 2010 11:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Is James Rodgers eligible for a medical redshirt
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
Probably not, given that he has played half a season…but I do feel for him and would like to see him get this year back, if for nothing else than for his NFL prospects.
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Actually it looks like he might. The rule used to be 20% of games, but now people are saying it changed recently to 30% of games. If that’s the case he may be ok because he sat out against ASU, so he’s only played in 4 games. 30% of 12 games is 3.6 games, but the rule says to round up if there’s any decimal place. So he should be eligible is he’s played in no more than 4 games, which is what he’s done. Assuming they are correct on BTD that the rule is now 30% instead of the old 20%, he’s good.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 10, 2010 6:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
didn’t Moevao get turned down for a medical hardship because you have to have missed games from multiple seasons?
I think Moevao was trying to get a 6th year but I’m not positive. James Rogers hasn’t already redshirted.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 10, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
the difference is the sixth year. As Rodgers has not redshirted, the NCAA would be more sympathetic to their case.
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I would expect him not to RS but to get a medial hardship
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
There is no such thing as a medical redshirt. Medical hardship is the official term for what people unofficially call medical redshirt.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 10, 2010 9:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That lego man looks nothing like Lane Kiffin!
by JonathanPDX on Oct 10, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Dunno, beady lil' eyes, there is something there.
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by Bill Musgrave on Oct 10, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He's good to redshirt.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 10, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
LaMichael James is now my top guy on my ESPN.com Heisman Watch ballot; James has also surpassed Denard Robinson as the country’s leading rusher at 169.6 yards per game, ahead of Robinson’s 165.2.
Think Chip Kelly is good with QBs? He transformed Dennis Dixon from underwhelming into a star. He had Jeremiah Masoli making plays and looking like a different QB than the one now in Oxford. Kelly has Darron Thomas emerging as a scary dual-threat triggerman, and then when the young Texan goes down Saturday, in comes Nate Costa, who throws only two incompletions, one on a Hail Mary and the other on a drop.
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Not to mention,
He did a pretty good job getting Roper ready for the Sun Bowl in very little time.
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Hey Bill Moos, I want my Ducks on TV! (I think it's your fault, Rable Rable!)
Has anyone ever seen
Lane Kiffin and Josh McDaniels in the same place? I think it would go something like this.
Random Pullman thoughts
1. That is one boring drive. Did the Wazzu founding fathers triangulate the Inland Empire using scientific cartographic technologies available at the time to determine the exact middle of nowhere, so as to centrally locate an aggie school equidistant from every other nowhere?
2. Clarkston is a hole, but if you have to stay there, stop at Tomato Brothers for dinner — great woodfired pizza and other Italian stuff.
3. I like the layout of Martin Stadium, for a high school field. It’s even smaller in person than it looks on TV. At least there’s no track to isolate the stands from the field. And kudos to WSU for not selling the naming rights, unlike some other podunk stadiums.
4. I parked in the closest general parking garage to the stadium I could find — just across the practice field from the stadium. Went back at halftime to drop off my camera bag and found open spots right at the front of the first level. Moved my car forward for easy exit. After the game returned to my car to find no line of cars leaving the garage. Fastest exit from a game in history. Wondering if I just parked in the right wrong place.
5. Tailgating was spread all over the place — parking lots, open spaces, lawns, you name it.
6. The pregame stuff at the field house (think a low-rent version of the Mos Center with even worse acoustics) was pretty tame. An average blues band for entertainment, a walkthrough by the Cougs and their band and somewhat doughy-legged cheerleaders, a pre-game radio show that was completely inaudible from more than 3 feet away from the set. Duck fans occupied a solid quarter of the available space by my count.
7. At the main gate, the security guy told me they’d scan my ticket at the stands. At the top of my section, nobody batted an eye at me. First time I’ve just walked into a game and sat in a reserved seat without ticket confirmation since high school. At halftime I tried to exit. The guy at the gate scanned my ticket and said “Hmm, this ticket was never scanned in. I guess you can’t leave since you aren’t here.” To which I replied “If I’m not here, I can just go, then, right?” He said “Sure.” “And I can get back in?” “Yeah, your ticket’s never been used.” So, after halftime I try to enter at another gate (on the student section). Security girl says “Where’s your hand stamp?” (I didn’t have one — I had a ticket that hadn’t been used). “You can’t get in without a handstamp.” I said “You want to see my ticket?” “Sorry, I don’t have anything to do with tickets.” At which point I just shrugged and walked in. Martin Stadium security: In a class by itself.
8. During pregame warmups I had a feeling the team was a little too loose and, if not unprepared, at least disinterested. Didn’t see the eye of the tiger in them. Right then, I would have bet the Cougs to cover if I was inclined to bet against Oregon.
9. Wazzu is going to win a game sometime. It might not be this year, but they are much better organized and in better condition than they have been the last few times I’ve seen them. Their OL and backs did a great job of picking up blitzes, and the game probably should have been closer; Tuel was hitting guys on the hands and they just weren’t catching the ball.
10. Will someone tell me why the hit on Barner wasn’t flagged as a helmet-to-helmet hit? It looked like a spear to me, but nobody mentioned it on the broadcast.
11. And will someone defend CK’s decision to leave LMJ in the game late in the 4th quarter with a 20-point lead? At the rate players were getting dinged up, that seemed like a pretty risky attempt to do nothing more than rack up stats for the star player (and all it accomplished was to double his fumble count for the season). I don’t like to second-guess the coach, but that made no sense to me.
12. Does the south side of Martin Stadium always smell like caramel corn? Because that’s pretty cool.
13. Inebriated Wazzu students are more fun than inebriated UW students.
14. Butch is my 2nd favorite Pac-10 mascot.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
Absolutely love the new sig. There has to be a story behind that one. Hopefully it’s not a “This Week In The Suffering.”
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It was incidental
Will someone tell me why the hit on Barner wasn’t flagged as a helmet-to-helmet hit? It looked like a spear to me, but nobody mentioned it on the broadcast.
He was knocked into Barner.
I also know the lady you were talking about. She screamed at me as I walked by to come back in at halftime. I usually don’t have trouble, but this lady was angry. It took me taking off the pass I had on and holding it up to get her to calm down.
I noticed the same thing. The gal at the top of the sect. wasn’t even looking at who came & went. At entry, we weren’t allowed to have a cap on the bottle of water we had, so just
carried a spare one in the pack. Coug fans were hospitable, the pulled pork sandwiches
awesome for just $5, and the sequined oregon sombrero-wearing guys were hilarious.
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