Quack Fix: Barner released from hospital, Ducks move up to No. 2 heading into bye week
by PaulSF on Oct 11, 2010 7:00 AM PDT
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PrintIt wasn't a pretty win on Saturday, but the Ducks are still 6-0 and have 10 days to regroup, and it couldn't have come at a better time. Oh, and we're bowl eligible already. Anyway, here's your Monday Morning Quack Fix:
- First things first: injuries. Running back Kenjon Barner was released from the hospital in Pullman yesterday following a vicious hit he suffered early in the Ducks' win over Washington State. Barner was taken from the field in an ambulance, but it sounds as though the injuries he sustained are relatively minor. Hopefully more good news to come regarding his status in the coming days, but early indications are that he did not injure his neck or spine. I think we're all just glad he's okay.
- As for the right-shoulder injury Darron Thomas suffered, it sounds like he's going to be okay as well. Offensive coordinator Mark Helfrich described it as a "sprained AC joint." Of course, as is typical of Chip Kelly, we probably won't know for sure until a week from Thursday when the Ducks take the field to warm up for UCLA. In other words, both Barner and Thomas are day-to-day.
- Speaking of Thomas, the R-G's George Schroeder's Sunday column focuses on Oregon's two quarterbacks, and what great shape the Ducks are in to have two who can play. As Schroeder puts it, we may be wondering about Thomas's right shoulder for another 10 days, but we won't be worrying.
- Despite the unimpressive win over what many believe to be the worst team in the Pac-10, the Ducks are now second in both the AP and USA Today coaches' polls. Maybe more interesting, however, is that Oregon is now No. 1 in the ESPNU fan rankings.
- The Oregonian's John Canzano issued a column about the sportsmanship Casey Matthews exuded through Twitter following the Ducks' win on Saturday. Matthews tweeted about fellow Duck Barner, but also wished Oregon State's senior wide receiver James Rodgers well. Rodgers suffered a potentially season-ending knee injury on Saturday in the Beavers' win over No. 9 Arizona.
- Now, we all know Canzano has a tendency to stoke the flames of controversy. He very plainly and prominently states that Washington State's Anthony Carpenter should be suspended by the Pac-10 for the hit he laid on Barner. I've watched the replay over and over, and I simply can't decide if it was malicious or just poor timing. With two weeks until our next game, it seems like fodder for a Monday morning conversation. What do you think? Sound off in the comments.
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I honestly don’t think there was any malicious intent at all with the hit on Barner. He was charging in and got blocked right into Barner by Marvin Johnson.
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
I watched that play a bunch of times, and still don't think he was leading with his helmet.
Leave it to Canzano to infuse controversy into an otherwise positive article, though.
My name is Cliff Harris, and I’m here to lock shit down.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
ATQ has lost control of John Canzano!
Got to say, it was a good article. (Maybe he’s on vacation and his sub actually wrote it.)
Watched the hit on Barner a bunch of times, and I still don’t see any malicious intent. Just a good, hard hit.
Life is a sport: Watch other people play it.
For once in a blue moon, I actually agree with Canzano.
I agree he was blocked or bumped into Barner, but that in absolutely no way explains why he lowered his head just before the collision. The fact of the matter is that the head went down, and he used the crown of the helmet as a missile. You can’t say for sure he was aiming for Barner’s head, but you can say he did lower the head. So, as far as using his body as a projectile intent on causing injury, Canzano is right. It was very similar to the BSU hit on Rodgers. In both cases, the head went down.
In no way was it similar
Venable was on his own, targeted Rogers and lowered his head. Carpenter was knocked off balance and was falling to the ground as he hit Barner. There was no intent to it at all.
Just because Carpenter lowered his head doesn’t mean he was trying to take Barner’s head off. Go run at full speed and have someone knock you off your line. Your head will drop as you’re falling to the ground. It’s a natural reaction.
by Brian Floyd on Oct 11, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well...
Just because Carpenter lowered his head doesn’t mean he was trying to take Barner’s head off.
You are not supposed to lower your head. We can debate all day whether gravity caused his head to lower, or whether he did it on his own free will. The fact is that he lowered his head, thus the natural response should be the intent was to cause harm.
And you need to read the rest
Go run at full speed and have someone knock you off your line. Your head will drop as you’re falling to the ground. It’s a natural reaction.
You know
When TJ Ward would take someone’s head off we’d all crow about his hard hits and say “no way he meant to hurt anyone”, but lately, anytime one of our players gets hit hard it seems like there is a lot of angst about the intent of the other player to cause harm. Carpenter did not intend to harm Barner. Players should make every effort to avoid lowering their heads, and it should be against the rules to do so. But football is a violent sport and people are going to inadvertently get hurt.
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Let me translate Daisysoft into Musgraveblunt: "You guys are pussies".
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by Bill Musgrave on Oct 11, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha!
Thanks Musgrave – I was absolutely thinking “Kenjon Barner manned up about this hit and walked to the ambulance! And we’re whining about it?”
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I hear ya.
Didn’t look remotely intentional to me, just looked like a messy dog pile on special-teams-strength-amphetamines™, not sure what we’re all whining about.
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by Bill Musgrave on Oct 11, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
No offense intended, but...
We can debate all day whether gravity caused his head to lower, or whether he did it on his own free will.
Debating this all day would only be an indication of stubbornness.
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In stubborness?
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by mackjones23 on Oct 11, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
There would have to be evidence of intent on tape.
There is none, ergo suspension is not warranted.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 11, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I couldn’t see from where I was sitting that Johnson made any effort to adjust his trajectory. It looked like a spear.
Think of it this way. If the stripes had thrown a flag, would anyone here be saying they shouldn’t have? I think not.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
Here's a video
And I’ll supplement by adding this. When we asked about it after the game, Carpenter (the guy that laid the hit) said he didn’t even see Barner. He was going to take on the block of Huff and Huff stopped to set the edge on the hole. As that happened, Carpenter was hit by Johnson, propelling him into Barner while knocking him off balance. It really was just a freak, scary collision.
it didn’t look intentional, but the shot on TV of him smiling and laughing while Barner was being loaded into an ambulance had my blood boiling
He really wasn't
What you saw was right after the hit and the fumble recovery, guys were celebrating on the sideline. He even said it took him a minute to realize Barner was down and seriously hurt. There was no smiling or laughing when Barner was down and lying there motionless once everyone realized what was going on.
by Brian Floyd on Oct 11, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
what I’m remembering was a group of WSU players kneeling with their helmets off smiling and laughing … maybe I’m not remembering clearly
I promise you, the players on both sides and all of the fans in the stadium were very grave. No one took it lightly – no Coug player or fan that I saw anywere. If the camera caught someone smiling, it was no sign of disrepect or callousness. If the guys smiled when Barner was loaded in the ambulance, perhaps it was in relief that he walked to it under his own power. I know I was practically giddy about that.
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I was shocked he stood up
And I was very happy to see him walk to the ambulance. For a few minutes I thought he was done for. Upon seeing the replay in the booth, it looked like he may have had a serious neck injury.
by Brian Floyd on Oct 11, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
My impressions were the same watching live and watching the replay last night. Not a malicious hit, freak timing of Marvin’s block turned the coug player into a missle that happened to catch Barner in the head. To a degree, I’m glad that hit didn’t come to his lower body or we’d be looking at a repeat of WTIII versus Cal. I also notices the Cougs celebrating the big hit…they had just forced and recovered a fumble and were likely to take an unexpected lead. I thought their mood changed appropriately as it became clear that Barner was seriously injured.
No issues with the hit. No issues with the reaction of Coug players or fans. IMHO.
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by Bill Musgrave on Oct 11, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
Stuff like that happens on kickoff returns, nothing malicious about it.
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His head lowered, without question, but he definitely appeared to get blocked in the back. Chalk the hit and resulting injury up as a huge accident.
I too thought it was a block in the back at first
But after watching the replay a few time, it was a clean block under his armpit. This is why special teams are so dangerous, you get guys flying down the field at full speed, which leads to big time collisions,and deflections as in this case, unavoidable.
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I wish Clownzano had been there to take the hit.
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by Famous Duck on Oct 12, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
It was just a freak play.
Kind of like Thurmond taking a helmet to the knee last year – these things just happen on KORs when huge bodies are flying at each other at full speed.
I would really hesitate to place it in fBSU or Burfict territory.
Carpenter looked like he was going to take on the block.
When the block moved, Barner was really just caught in a bad spot.
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key sentence:
King is the school’s 11th football player to be arrested this year.
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Those guys know that the Fulmer Cup tabulation has ended, right?
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by ProbablyMonty on Oct 11, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
RE: James Rogers
Ted Miller says that he is, in fact, eligible for a medical hardship.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 11, 2010 7:36 AM PDT reply actions
have to admit
that should he get one, i’ll look forward to watching the two brothers walk out together on senior day 2011
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The assumption that he will come back for another year seems odd to me. Seems like the world is convinced that he would come back. James will already have his degree and another year won’t do him any favors when it comes to the draft. I know a lot has been made of their relationship and playing together but I think writing him off as staying at this point is premature.
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I agree that writing him off as staying is premature, but I also think writing him off as leaving is as well. We have no idea how that injury will affect his ability to make it to the NFL. If he won’t get drafted where he’d like, staying could be in his best interest. I was only saying that he’s eligible. People have been saying he won’t be eligible for a medical exemption like it’s 100% fact. It looks like that door is open.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 11, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
It would be nice for him to have the option
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As a Beaver, I’m not sold on him staying, even if he is granted the medical waiver. He has some good measurables (height and weight aside, of course) and has a good resume for the NFL. Some NFL team would give him a shot, he’s been so productive.
The kid has given us three great years in Corvallis on and off the field, so I feel guilty when I hope he sticks around another year (only if he loses this year). The kid deserves success and support wherever he goes—he’s been a great one for us.
At most there should have been a 15 yard penalty for head to head contact. It is the responsibility of the tackler to adjust trajectory. He was blocked just prior. Chalking this one up to a THANK YOU GOD he is all right.
Moving on, I am thinking the ducks need to adjust there 1st qtr strategy in upcomming games. Energy doesnt seem to equal that when they get behind. This is a great team to watch. Go Ducks !
BCS craziness...
Projected standings have Boise at 1, us at 2. That is some crazy stuff right there.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5673225
KU fans-how I hate thee!
I don't buy it.
I don’t see how Ohio State could be 5th. That discredits the whole thing.
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I don’t know. There are lots of undefeated teams and I don’t think it necessarily discredits it to say that Ohio St. is 5th at this point. For that matter, there’s no good reason to not put Nebraska or Auburn or Michigan St. or Boise at #1.
I personally don’t think Ohio St. is the 5th best team in the country. I’d have them at #1 if I had a vote. But at this point in the season, any of 7 or 8 teams has a legitimate claim.
Though not LSU.
Have you looked at some the computer rankings lately?
Those are bleepin’ crazy. Billingsley has a 2 loss Florida team still ranked 8th, just behind Oregon and LSU ranked #1!!!!! Frickin’ Massey has Auburn ranked ahead of Oregon in his BCS column and Oklahoma #1!
Its all about SOS
Oregon’s is decent, Ohio State’s sucks.
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Yes, I guess SOS will take care of itself
as long as Oregon keeps winning.
Ours will rise
We just played the worst team left on our schedule, the remaining 6 should all boost it.
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I don't agree with that.
Miami < Stanford
Illinois > Arizona State
Indiana > Tennessee
Ohio > Washington State
Marshall > New Mexico
Eastern Michigan > Portland State
We have the best WIN, but Ohio State’s overall competition has been better than Oregon’s overall competition.
Oregon has a really bad SOS right now.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-F-O-R-G-I-V-I-N-G-D-A-I-S-Y"
Wellllllll......I suppoooooose.
But when you put it that way, it’s kinda like comparing a Pacer to a Pinto. Sure, one might be the better car….
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 11, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd argue:
Illinois > Arizona State…..I love the SHU, but home field might be the only difference
Indiana > Tennessee…iffy, certainly not definitive
Ohio > Washington State….not what I saw this past weekend
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by Famous Duck on Oct 12, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Arizona State is improved… but I’m not sold on them yet. I would compare Arizona State to Penn State, and Illinois beat them by 20. Still, it could be a fun game to watch.
I would probably put money on Indiana over Tennessee
Washington State is improved, but I still would give Ohio the edge right now.
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Penn State has 6 TD's all season and not enuf penalties to be relevant in a football argument
LSU undefeated and Tenn took then to the last play of the game
WTF has Ohio got of which you are so proud?
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by Famous Duck on Oct 13, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
No pride here...
But Ohio has a 25 point win over Bowling Green, which is more than anything WSU has accomplished.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
Fortunately, the computers all agree to disagree.
Here’s a synopsis of all the rankings known to mankind.
Feel free to cherry-pick your righteous indignation. We’re #20 and #21 in a couple of these.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
If you don't include margin of victory (which the NCAA doesn't since certain teams, cough Nebraska and Miami, cough, used to run up the score due to it)
Oregon suffers.
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The human voters include MOV.
That’s why the computers aren’t allowed to — it’s already factored into the rankings.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
I know, I know
And it would help Boise too, beating the crap out of really bad teams as they do.
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Actually
I beleve that “margin of victory” was eliminated from the BCS due to a certain #2 ranked Oregon team getting shut out of the championship game. Oregon won a bunch of close games that season, and that factored into the computers dropping us to #4. The next season, they changed the formula.
KU fans-how I hate thee!
It had already been altered before then, however
They just got rid of it then.
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It has to do with computer rankings
Ohio State is average rank of 15th, we’re 6th and Boise is 3rd (thanks to a front-loaded schedule for them).
Ohio State’s will rise although I’m not sure it will rise too much. They don’t play Michigan State this year, which is likely the second best team in the league.
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Ohio.
Human voters try to say “Who is the best team?” Mathematical rankings say “Who has the best evidence, in terms of pure wins and losses, of being the best team?” Ohio State doesn’t have very good evidence there.
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by AllSaintsDay on Oct 11, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
#2 is good...
especially if you win ALL your games.
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Carpenters hit may have been unintentional, but I still have a problem with his obvious celebration after recognizing Barner was KO’d. Watch the vid.
You expect players to not celebrate a big play?
He didn’t know Barner was actually out until well after. He felt bad, and it took him a minute to process what happened.
By the way, the same thing happened, though less serious, on Harris’ punt return. A wsu defender was knocked clean out and was down for a few minutes. I’m not whining about Oregon celebrating.
by Brian Floyd on Oct 11, 2010 8:06 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Coug fan gets some credit here. There was a bit of hootin’ and hollerin’ after the hit, but as soon as they showed the replay — ONE time only, thank you — on the big screen, and then people realized Barner still hadn’t moved, the place got real quiet. Lots of respect and angst in the stands. Big cheer when he got to his feet.
Imagine how things would have been had this happened at Arizona.. the fans probably would have rushed the field.
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Right
These things are going to happen. Anyone is going to celebrate after a big hit. But obviously the guy didn’t want Barner to end up in the hospital.
I’ll back up you, benz and Brian on this. I didn’t realize how badly Barner was hit at first either – I was busy being pissed that he’d fumbled the ball. As soon as it was obvious, everyone got really quiet. I really started to panic watching his parents, and LMJ and Huff on the sidelines. Everyone was so obviously distraught, I have to tell you I was sitting there thinking that we were never going to see Kenjon walk again.
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Watching his dad and, I think, sister run on to the field was heartbreaking
I was really worried that was the end of his career. It was just a scary, scary hit to see and I’m glad he walked away from it.
It was also a nice gesture by Duck and Cougar fans alike giving his father a standing ovation as he walked back into the stadium with a few minutes left in the game.
I didn’t see anyone stopping and showing concern when Javes Lewis knocked out Owusu. I don’t have any problem with some celebration as long as it isn’t happening after they realize the player is knocked out.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 11, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
That was kind of what I looked back on.
Big collisions and concussions happen many times and it takes a minute to realize just how serious they are. As soon as everyone realized what was going on — and I had a good view and it still took me a minute — the place got dead silent. I really didn’t see anything wrong with it. One second they’re celebrating a huge play that changed momentum, the next the life was sucked out of the stadium and everyone was hoping Barner would be alright.
I was really impressed by the WSU crowd
I didn’t realize Barner had stood up until I heard the cheering (coming mostly from the cougar fans in that end of the field at first), and the ovation given as he walked to the stretcher was amazing. It seemed everyone remembered, if only for a bit, that this is just a game and winning isn’t the most important thing.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Oct 11, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I disagree.
I was in the student section (don’t ask), and aside from the “he’s faking” calls right after the hit, everyone was concerned for Owusu. Even the drunk frat boy next to me, who said, “Shit, I hope he’s not dead or anything.”
Not to worry, Token Frat Guy, he’s going to be alright.
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It sounded like the student section was cheering while Eddie Pleasant was running down the sideline, then it got quiet after everyone realized Owusu was still down and out. I’d be really surprised if the student section was talking about Owusu while Pleasant was returning the fumble. And that’s what I mean…I don’t expect people to realize immediately that a guy is out. After a big hit, the natural reaction is to celebrate.
Take the TJ Ward hit on Zac Robinson, for instance…the sideline is jumping up and down and celebrating. If you watch the replay at about 34 seconds, Robinson lays there for just a split second not moving, then jumps up. If he had stayed on the ground, I wouldn’t be pissed at the Oregon sideline for being excited right then. However, if they continued to act a fool even after seeing the guy not get up, that’s another story.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 11, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
It takes some time to realize how serious the situation is
Like I said earlier, we had a guy get knocked out on the Harris punt return. I was watching Harris down the sideline and only after he scored and they were celebrating did I notice the limp body back around where he fielded the ball.
The same thing happened with the Barner hit. There was celebration after a big hit and fumble recovery, and they were celebrating on the sideline, but after he stayed down and the trainers came running out the place got quiet in the drop of a hat.
That's the first time I can recall seeing family members on the field during an injury.
Maybe it happens and I’m just not aware of it, but that was what spooked me about it the most. I was sure that meant he was paralyzed or dead for a minute, then I realized that everyone would have been freaking out even more than they were.
LaMichael James in particular, I thought he was going to break down on the sidelines watching Barner out there on the field
My name is Cliff Harris, and I’m here to lock shit down.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Javid Best's folks came onto the field last year
Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?
My name is not Bryce.
by Im Chris Hansen on Oct 11, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
That was a scary one too.
Best had decorticate posturingafter that landing. I’m actually amazed he’s alive and well to this day.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
When Locker got hurt at OSU a few years back his dad came out of the stands
And went to the hospital with him.
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That was the scariest part for me
I thought maybe he just got knocked a bit but would get back up. Then he stayed down and I was worried. Seeing his father run onto the field was when it hit me and I realized how serious it was.
I said it on CougCenter this morning, but the coaching staffs from both sides showed serious class. Chip Kelly had his arm around Barner’s sister (I think) for most of the time and the Cougar coaches were standing with Barner’s family consoling them. It was a class move by both sides and something I’ve come to expect from Kelly. He impressed me again Saturday with his actions during and after the game.
by Brian Floyd on Oct 11, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
To those who were in Pullman for the game
In the AtQ game thread it sounded like the crowd was chanting ‘Go Cougs’ while the ambulance was on the field? Not sure I’d give the fans a whole bunch of credit for being classy if that’s the case.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
That wasn't true
It was quiet in the stadium. He was given a standing ovation both when he stood up and when he was loaded into the ambulance.
Only after both teams had taken the field and got set for play did the crowd chant “Go Cougs”.
The Co Cougs chant started right after he was put in the ambulance. But I don't care, whatever.
And I think Carpenter himself was a little knocked silly. Watching him on the sidelines after he was kinda wobbily it seemed.
I fucking hate you Mariners
The ambulance was driving off the field when the ‘Go Cougs’ chant started. It was okay in my opinion, did not seem too callous.
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Yeah you have to get the football game going again
It takes a little time for a crowd to get pumped up after a delay, for whatever reason, that long. No reason not to start after they give him an ovation for getting up. All good in my book, I am sure Autzen has done the same thing.
"We'll run the same play seven times in a row," Holmes said. "It'll go for two, then two again, then two again. Then we'll pop one for 20. We'll just keep running the play, running the play. We'll just keep chipping away. That's how we roll."
Thanks for clarifying.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought they were chanting, “Don’t Coug”
by grimc on Oct 11, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was saying Boo Urns.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
UUUUUUUUUUUU OOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Is what I heard
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 11, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t have a big problem with it. I didn’t want to say anything in the game thread, because emotions were running high…
But the crowd went from insane, to absolute silence. There was no energy at that moment. When he was in the ambulance, he had been standing up, and moving – somewhat on his own power. The situation appeared to be in control.
The crowd was just trying to energize their own team after that, and I don’t blame them.
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Barner Hit Video
I didn’t get the game on vid, can someone please supply a link to the Barner hit? ty
I saw Benzduck's Pullman thoughts in the 12Pac thread
and I concur with everything he said! I’ll add a couple more:
1. This country will never EVER run out of wheat as long as eastern Washington exists.
2. Tailgating scene was pretty fun but as benz said, tame. Very congenial fans.
3. It has long been rumored but I confirmed it for myself – WSU fans can drink copious amounts of clear bear.
4. The Coug and Rico’s were fun after game scenes.
5. When you get the last available hotel room in Pullman, you better shut your mouth and not complain about it. At least this is what my husband told me about 5 times.
6. WSU fans were great hosts and great sports after the game – had a great time chatting them up. There is some excitiement building that the team seems so much more competitive the last two games. If they keep playing this way, I think they’ll definitely pull off a Pac10 win this year.
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Amusing bit on crazy AP voters in ESPN Insider
So I’ll only quote a small part:
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/blog?name=mcgee_ryan&id=5673108
The weekly winner of this somewhat dubious honor is Scott Wolf of the Los Angeles Daily News. Every week, I receive multiple complaints about Wolf, almost entirely from the Midwest, claiming that he is “a serial Big Ten hater.” According to Pollspeak’s “Pollstalker,” he routinely ranks the Big Ten teams lower than most of the sixty AP Top 25 voters and has won Pollspeak’s user-determined “Worst Voter” award three of the season’s first six weeks.
But per my inbox, this week’s early leader in the clubhouse is Mark Anderson of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Anderson was brought to my attention by fans of South Carolina, which Anderson moved up only one spot, from 19th to 18th. Most of his peers moved the Cocks into the Top 10 after their upset of Alabama. Devotees of Ohio State (he dropped them from 2nd to 7th), Nebraska (7th to 8th) and Oregon (2nd to 5th) took issue with Anderson this week, too.
In Anderson and Wolf’s defenses — and I wrote this in my Mag story — the surprisingly simple AP voting guidelines encourage following one’s own path and not simply copying and pasting in what they think everyone else might be doing. Here are those guidelines, in their entirety:
1. Base your vote on performance, not reputation or preseason speculation.
2. Avoid regional bias, for or against. Your local team does not deserve any special handling when it comes to your ballot.
3. Pay attention to head-to-head results.
4. Don’t hesitate to make significant changes in your ballot from week to week. There’s no rule against jumping the 16th-ranked team over the eighth-ranked team, if No. 16 is coming off a big victory and No. 8 just lost 52-6 to a so-so team.
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Jon Wilner is a great example
Of why the AP poll doesn’t factor in the BCS (thank goodness). He’s got Oregon State #10, Nebraska at #11, freaking FLORIDA at #15, and Utah at #20. Not to mention that he has Oklahoma #1. What a moron.
KU fans-how I hate thee!
I almost rioted in the car on the driv ehome from Pullman when I read Wilner’s poll. I knew I would, not sure why I looked it up.
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 11, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
As much as I hate Wilner, he’s not why the AP poll doesn’t factor into the BCS. The AP told the BCS that it can no longer use the AP poll because it had never gained the AP’s consent. If they hadn’t done that, it would still count. It’s not like someone at the BCS looked at the AP poll and decided not to use it anymore because of people like Wilner.
As bad as the AP poll is, the coaches poll is probably worse. Most of the coaches, themselves, don’t even do the voting. They have some SID or assistant coach fill it out. The only reason there’s more “outrage” over the AP poll is because the AP at least has enough balls to have transparency and make the votes public. The coaches will not do that and keep their vote secret. For this reason alone, I respect the AP poll much more than the coaches poll.
And none of this is even addressing the Harris poll. I’ve seen some atrocious votes in some of those polls over the past couple of years. Here’s a list of the voters for anyone interested.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 11, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought the AP poll didn't factor in at the AP's request?
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 11, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Or...I could read MCD's reply first.
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 11, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice
Miller’s mid-season awards, LMJ is offensive MVP and Kelly is Coach of the year so far.
Biggest surprise: This was going to be Arizona’s defense until the Oregon State loss. Instead, it’s Oregon quarterback Darron Thomas, whose rapid growth running the Oregon spread-option offense has been a revelation and is the prime reason the Ducks are national title contenders. Someone else played quarterback for the Ducks last year but no one remembers his name anymore.
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In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 11, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Beautiful people
http://www.pollspeak.com/pollstalker/pollstalker.php?r=T&s=13&p=26&w=7&t1=77&t2=0&v=0
You can see who voted us #1 in the AP Poll, including Craig James and a bunch of folks from around the country as well (writers from UT, SC and AR among others voted us #1).
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I wish it wasn’t Craig James, honestly. I can’t stand him. At least it’s not just him.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 11, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Buckeye Ducks rematch - only this time for the National Championship???
I’ve brought this up before, but since its starting to look like a real possibility I have to ask, based on what you’ve seen in this season so far what are the things you’d like or need to see from Oregon that put them in the national championship game (aside from staying unbeaten)?
I don’t like early rankings, but do think my Buckeyes are good this year. For them to make it all the way they need to 1) stay focused, 2) stay healthy, and 3) get a little bit better with every game.
Now, before you quack off on the simplicity of my points, as they are basic, but I think OSU has a lot going for it this year, and that they only way they falter along the way is to get a big head, get stagnant, and look past people taking it for granted, or god forbid see a really bad injury.
What do you want to see in your Ducks?
Way, way ahead of ourselves to be talking about the NCG.
But my short wish list is:
1) Fewer special teams turnovers
2) Fewer slow starts by the defense
3) Continued second half domination
Still too many unbeatens at this point to sift through them all, though. The Ducks’ last #2 ranking was a curse straight from hell, I’m not excited about this one, myself.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Its nice to be in complete control of our own destiny though
If this team plays like they can, we will be rewarded with a unique chance.
But for now, UCLA is our national championship.
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But the thing is, we aren't technically under control of it.
Thirteen unbeatens in the Top 25. The media loves us right now, our computer rankings should improve with time, but nothing guarantees us a spot in the NCG even if we’re 12-0.
which is why UCLA is our national championship, and the only thing we control at this point is our Rose Bowl destiny.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
That's the only really good thing about the current bowl system
You win the conference, you at least go to the Rose Bowl.
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And furthermore,
tOSU isn’t in control of it either. And I’m not even sure OSU controls its Rose Bowl destiny. Say MSU and OSU end up undefeated, who gets the Rose Bowl bid?
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Ohio State
Its based on higher BCS ranking, which would almost certainly be Ohio State.
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It should be based off coaches-coming-back-from-heart-attacks
In that case its MSU in a landslide
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by Im Chris Hansen on Oct 11, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
MSU
as OSU went last year, more recently
by Buckeye Bobo on Oct 11, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
No, they changed the rule
http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102204aad.html
Rose Bowl. Unless ranked No. 1 or No. 2 in the final BCS poll, the conference champion shall participate in the Rose Bowl. The championship shall be determined on the percentage basis of conference games (tie games counts ½ win and ½ loss). If there is a tie for the championship, the Rose Bowl representative will be determined as follows:
1. An ineligible team shall not be considered in the standings for determination of the conference representative.
2. If there is a tie for the championship, the winner of the game between these two teams shall represent the conference.
3. If there is still a tie, or if the tied teams did not play each other, the representative shall be determined on the percentage basis of all games played.
4. If there is still a tie, the highest-ranked team in the final BCS standings shall be the representative.
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So Ohio State would go, assuming they both win out.
1. Both teams are eligible, so move to 2
2. They don’t play each other, so move to 3
3. Both would be undefeated, so move to 4
4. Unless MSU can leapfrog tOSU in the BCS standings, tOSU goes.
We all know MSU isn’t leapfrogging tOSU in the BCS standings unless tOSU loses.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 11, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I tried finding the Pac-10 rules, too
but got a dead link. Anyone know if we still have the last-to-go-is-out rule?
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
No need
Since we always play every other team, the head to head tiebreaker works.
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Unless there are 3 teams tied and they all beat each other
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by mackjones23 on Oct 11, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I found this...
b. Multiple-Team Ties.
(1) When three or more teams are tied in Conference play, if one has defeated all others, it shall be the Rose Bowl representative. If that is not the case, a comparison of the tied teams’ records against the other tied teams shall be made and the team having the best record against the other tied teams shall be the Rose Bowl representative. If two or more teams are still tied after this comparison, the appropriate two-team or multiple-team tie-breaking procedures shall be repeated among those teams still under consideration.
(2) If more than two teams are still tied after the process above is completed, each remaining tied team’s record against the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings shall be compared, with the procedure continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.
When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, each team’s collective record against the tied teams as a group shall be used.
If at any point in the process the multiple-team tie is reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaking procedure shall be applied.
If more than two teams are still tied after comparing their records all the way through the Conference standings, the team among the tied teams with the highest ranking in the final BCS standings shall be the Rose Bowl representative.
If a tie remains, the teams most recently earning Rose Bowl or Bowl Championship Series automatic selection shall be eliminated.
It was quoted and linked to something on Pac-10.org which is now a dead link. It’s from last November in a discussion about the end of last season, so it’s as updated as I could find.
Clear as mud? Me too.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 11, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember looking at this stuff in 2008.
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
I remember looking at it last year after the Stanford game before my head Esploded.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 11, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not too tough, although it does get wordy
Let’s use an example:
Oregon, Stanford and Arizona are all 7 – 2 at the end of the season, with Oregon beating Stanford, Stanford beating Arizona, and Arizona beating Oregon. Let’s say Oregon and Zona both had a loss to OSU, while Stanford’s other loss came to Cal. The year end standings look like this:
Ore 7 – 2
Furd 7 – 2
Zona 7 – 2
OSU 6 – 3
USC 5 – 4
Cal 5 – 4
So the first thing you look at is head to head records. But that doesn’t get us anywhere because Oregon, Furd and Zona are all 1 – 1 against each other. So now you go down to the next best team, which is OSU. Oregon and Zona are 0 – 1 against OSU while Furd is 1 – 0. Furd goes to the Rose Bowl. If Cal was 6 – 3 as well, Oregon, Zona, and Furd would all be 1 – 1 against the 6 – 3 teams, and you’d have to go to the BCS standings to pick the Rose Bowl team.
One final example. Let’s say Oregon and Furd lost to Cal, while Zona lost to OSU. Now, when you compare records against the next best team, Oregon and Furd are both 1 – 0, while Zona is 0 -1. Zona is eliminated, meaning it’s now a tiebreaker between Furd and Oregon. The Ducks won the head to head matchup, so they go to the Rose Bowl.
See? Easy.
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But What If
Everyone is 6-6 California Breaks away from the main land and goes out to hang out with Hawaii and a blizzard kills all the kangaroos in Australia?
Quack Quack Bitches.
I doubt it
If you guys drop a game I think the winner of a B12 title game between Nebraska and Oklahoma (Assuming both are still undefeated) jumps Boise State, as may TCU btw.
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I'd love to see Utah jump them both
Could happen.
At this point, I see us losing a game
While I’ve been impressed by our ability to come back from double digit deficits, one of these days it will bite us in the ass. Our defense is plagued by Old Aliotti in the first half of games and our defense has looked terrible in first halves against actual competition. Our offensive line either decides to show up in a major way (Stanford) or they decide to take the game off (ASU, WSU). DT and LMJ have been fantastic, but need the O-line to be competent to be truly effective. Our special teams seems to either take it to the house or cough it up, putting our defense on its heels.
We have the talent, althletes, conditioning, coaching, etc to go undefeated in Pac-10 play. But the spotty play cannot continue. We can easily lose to Cal (not on paper, but its Cal), Arizona and the Beavers. Until we fix the errors I mentioned above, I’m just hoping for another Rose Bowl bid (which would be fantastic).
Same sentiment I was feeling after the Stanford game. I’m glad we have Arizona at home. I wouldn’t pencil in a win in Los Angeles just yet, regardless of how their defensive stats look. USC’s power running game could give us fits if our front seven doesn’t start getting tougher at the point of attack.
Oh, and that smoke you smell? That’s from the first currently being lit under the O-line by Steve Greatwood. That group needs to elevate their game another notch. They’ve been good – very good at times. They need to be great.
In Chip I trust. In Nick, not so much.
I’m not discounting USC by any means. Just more worried about the three I mentioned. I am also very glad we have Arizona at home and UCLA for that matter.
Someone on here said during the game thread that the Ducks play just a little bit above who ever they’re playing against. We need to play to the best of our abilities to win out the season.
Yup
This is the Pac-10, every team can beat every other team any given week.
In some ways this is why I’m glad the WSU game happened, gives CK a very good reason to push his players not to lose focus again.
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RE: USC Yes but
USC’s power running game could give us fits
But USC’s problems on defense won’t go away. I predict your game with them will be a scoring contest as it was between USC and Stanford. I would not bet against the Ducks in that scenario. It will go down to the last play. 4th quarter stamina and purpose, I know your ducks get fired up, but what is Kiffen going to tell these guys?
by Buckeye Bobo on Oct 11, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear you. I like our late-game conditioning against anyone in the country. At some point pride has to kick in, and that USC team still has a lot of horses. If their season has gone completely in the shitter, no better way to feel good about yourself than knocking off Oregon if you’re a USC guy, especially after the media claimed the Ducks toppled their dynasty last year and what have you.
I’m think USC could be every bit the road challenge that we’ll see from Cal and toOSU.
In Chip I trust. In Nick, not so much.
If USC wins it, thats when people will say Kiffen’s era began. Thing is, I think this lack of character that we see from a colapsing defense will be the real signature of this season, not a bump in the road.
by Buckeye Bobo on Oct 11, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the Kiffin Era was designed to be the Age of the Fallguy. I truly believe that Kiffin was really hired just to keep some players around and muddle through the sanction years, but USC figures they’ll can him in a few years and get a big name coach.
I could believe this.
The public almost never likes The Man After The Man as much as it likes The Man After The Man After The man.
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by AllSaintsDay on Oct 11, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
coach azz will fire-roast the Dline this week
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I agree. We will be favored in all 6 games most likely, but who cares about that? Anyone who thinks that we will win all 6 because we should win all 6, answer this…
Here are 6 games this weekend and the spread (favorites in bold)
NC State -7.5 @ East Carolina
Illinois @ Michigan State -7
Texas @ Nebraska -9.5
South Carolina -6.5 @ Kentucky
Ohio State -4.5 @ Wisconsin
Minnesota @ Purdue -5
What are the odds that all 6 of the favored teams win? The odds that any 1 of them wins is great, but the odds on all 6 winning aren’t. That’s why a 6-team parlay pays off so well…upsets are going to happen to almost every team at some point.
I think we can win all of our games, I just don’t think it’s realistic to expect it and feel like the season is a failure if we lose a game (especially with a first-year starter at QB in a deep-as-ever Pac 10).
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 11, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Luke Jackson waived by Memphis Grizzlies
Sigh, to be expected.
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Italy > Memphis anyway
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
By the way
Lost in all of this is the job Nate Costa did. With the game still well within reach, he did a hell of a job running the offense. He showed some nice speed and made some great plays. There was no dropoff between Thomas and him Saturday.
13-15
The incompletions being a hailmary and a blatant drop.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Well unless you wanted to throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield
Nate Costa is more Masoli, Thomas adds a vertical element to the passing game the Ducks have sorely missed.
Costa is a better runner, tho.
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by Im Chris Hansen on Oct 11, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
The ball that he (DT) threw on the wheel route to LMJ out of the backfield
Could not have been thrown any more perfectly. I remember catching passes like that where the ball is moving exactly the same speed as you and just kinda, lays down in your hands. That ball was as easy to catch, running at full speed, as it is easy to reach out and pick up a ball off the rack in the equipment room. Super impressed with the touch he put on that ball.
Quack Quack Bitches.
maybe it was just me
It seemed as if Costa was afraid to cut. He ran and ran well but I did not see him take any corners I only saw him turn in a slow curve.
Launchpad
by Launchpad59 on Oct 11, 2010 11:14 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
His running style is completely different
He runs upright while Thomas runs like a RB.
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I saw him slow curve for 40+ yards. That was okay with me.
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 11, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
How cute
Luck after the win over USC:
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sword fightin' ?
Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?
My name is not Bryce.
by Im Chris Hansen on Oct 11, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I have not seen a single highlight of the game
I’m not sure I want to, but I’m going to ask for it anyway. Does anyone have a good link for some highlights from the Ducks perspective?
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Check goducks.com?
The Harris punt return was fun of course as is the Thomas bomb to James to get us the lead back for good.
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Seattle media finally starting to understand
Its another lost season for the Fuskies. And no, I don’t buy the whole Locker was ill excuse. At some point they have to admit Locker just isn’t that good.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2013128296_uwfb11.html
Washington is now 2-3, and while it can claim a schedule that most rank among the 10 toughest in the country, the reality is that it doesn’t get any easier the next four Saturdays — Oregon State at home; at Arizona; home against Stanford; and at Oregon.
The Huskies have to win at least one of those four to keep postseason hope alive entering the season’s last three games, a trio that appears more manageable — UCLA at home; at Washington State; and at California.
The ASU game looked like one UW had to win to accomplish its goal of a bowl game. But the loss, and the manner in which it was achieved, again raised questions about where the Huskies are headed.
Washington coach Steve Sarkisian said afterward that quarterback Jake Locker had been ill all week and was not 100 percent for the game. And two other offensive starters — left guard Erik Kohler (mononucleosis) and receiver Devin Aguilar (hip flexor) — missed the game. All of that contributed to a sluggish offensive game that tied last season’s Stanford game for the lowest scoring output in Sarkisian’s 17 games as head coach.
In particular, Sarkisian said Locker’s illness made him curtail some of the schemes that had worked so well at USC, specifically getting Locker out on the run.
“We lost an element of him moving around and running around,” Sarkisian said. “Once he’d run once, he couldn’t get his wind back almost for the whole series until he could get to the bench. So we were being very cautious when we moved him in the pocket or outside the pocket, because it really had a lingering effect — not just for one play, but for down the road.”
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I'm so looking forward to the misery that will ensue
after UW goes on a 5 game losing streak…
ASU – L
Or St – 10/16
@Arizona – 10/23
Stanford – 10/30
@Oregon – 11/6
They’ll be 2-7 and completely out of a bowl picture. Also, as if Oregon needed extra motivation for the UW game, we could be looking at that game as the team that gets to keep Locker from ever going to a bowl game.
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
Who knows about OSU?
Inconsistency rules the day.
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What good is it to play The Toughest Schedule In The Country if you don’t win any games?
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
I tried to make this point
At the Dawg Pound recently, of course Lear Pilot tried to swoop in and make me look like a dick. But UW seriously needs to schedule 3 patsies for the OOC, then they only need to win three out of 9 to get a bowl berth. USe that for recruiting, then repeat. It’s a simple formula, but try teaching that to the old dawgs that remember the Don James years.
I ask again, is there anything more delusional than a husky fan?
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
I don’t know about the 3 Patsies Method. Sure, it works for Kansas State, but the KSt fanbase has neither the tradition nor the expectations of the whelps. And we heartily mock the Snyder approach, so, why recommend it to UW? They’re mockable enough as it is.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
Dickson bet
Rickert noted that John Harbaugh lost a bet to Ed Dickson over the Stanford game and now Harbaugh has to wear a ducks shirt and hat
I saw that article too
Ngata made a bet with Harbaugh as well, but went the easy way and just asked for money. You should link to the article, westspec.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Oct 11, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
CaDuck!
In the spirit of not messing with a winning streak, it’s my strong opinion you should change your screen image today despite the fact that we don’t play until a week from Thursday. We mustn’t do anything whatsoever to tempt Juju’s displeasure, and the rule is that it changes on each Monday after a game.
So, who’s it going to be? Does Prince even need jinxing? Is it the more obvious Neuheisel? Perhaps the Pistol offense like we did against PSU?
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It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-I-S-N-I-C-E"
Better make it Pryor. Probably wasting fate’s time with Moore facing San Jose State – though, of the two, that would be by far the most humorous upset.
In Chip I trust. In Nick, not so much.
This is a very good idea.
Make it Pryor.
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I still have nightmares of his pick six against Costa last season.
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Hey Bill Moos, I want my Ducks on TV! (I think it's your fault, Rable Rable!)
Rahim Moore
I’d really like to see that guy out of position all day
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
Perhaps,
But I could also give it a week off. I mean, the jinx has been hard at work lately. It got Carmen Messina a minor injury, caused a Tennessee defensive disaster (and is apparently still doing magic against Wilcox’s defense), screwed over PSU’s pistol offense, gave Luck his worst game of the season, and got the WSU game televised. That is a whole heck of a lot of work!
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Hey Bill Moos, I want my Ducks on TV! (I think it's your fault, Rable Rable!)
Exactly
Chip has said that this is NOT a bye week. Are you planning on flouting Chip’s directions, CaDuck?
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Fine.
I’m leaving this up to you Daisy. Who the hell gets thrown up there? (Honestly, UCLA is a tough one to figure out)
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Matt Daddy says Rahim Moore and he hasn’t made a bad call for us yet. So let’s do that.
I was tempted to say Terrelle Pryor this Monday and then change it to Rahim Moore next Monday but then decided that would be focusing too much on another team outside our schedule, and that just feels like something Juju (not to mention CK) would frown upon.
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I agree with this
Rahim Moore and next Monday you might go with Akeem Ayers… a lil double dip :)
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Here yall go
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Rahim Moore, you're no John Boyett!
I almost feel bad for him...
"We'll run the same play seven times in a row," Holmes said. "It'll go for two, then two again, then two again. Then we'll pop one for 20. We'll just keep running the play, running the play. We'll just keep chipping away. That's how we roll."
Yeah,
Poore Moore.
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Rahim Moore, you're no John Boyett!
can we have a day of New-weasel jinxing?
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
I'm just not sure he's worth the effort.
Do you really think he’s worth the same focus we gave Josh Wilcox? Me – not so much.
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no
but we will have a weasel stomping day. That will suffice
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I’m glad Chip isn’t giving them a bye week after that performance. It’s not going to be hard for them to find things to work on.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 11, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Wuss, from the UW beat writer
To clarify on Locker, Sark said he just has "the common cold’’ and nothing more serious.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
So,
Sark is more or less attributing UW’s crappy offensive out put on “nothing serious”, right?
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Hey Bill Moos, I want my Ducks on TV! (I think it's your fault, Rable Rable!)
Something like that
But that any mistakes aren’t his fault, its that his players have little boo boos and sniffles.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Can they just admit..
Locker is the not the God they all made him out to be. I mean, i give the kid credit for sticking out his senior year, especially now that it looks like it could cost him a few million. But the kid has never, ever had any consistency.
Canzano still sucks.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 11, 2010 2:08 PM PDT reply actions
He actually wrote a non-negative article for once
Give him credit.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
That really didn't have that much substance, honestly.
I have no respect for the guy.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 11, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither do I
But I’m not going to be hyper-critical of this one.
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I wouldn't pick up his piece if I was out of toilet paper.
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
Yeah, but it depends how bad it is sprained. He required surgery. Thomas may not.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-F-O-R-G-I-V-I-N-G-D-A-I-S-Y"
The game he hurt it, he was in sweats the second half with an icepack taped to the shoulder.
Highly doubtful that Thomas’s shoulder is hurt nearly as bad considering the way they treated it.
Yes, but varying degrees of the injuries exist.
My dad had a Grade V AC Joint sprain, which didn’t allow him to use his arm for 6 weeks and required surgery. Grade VI is the most severe grade. I’d venture to say that Darron’s is probably a Grade I or II sprain.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 11, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya he didn't come down on it too hard,
More of a stinger than anything. It worked well enough for him to deliver a strike on a crossing route the very next play.
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Did anyone see B Bennett warming up on the sideline?
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Uh Oh.....
@DuckFootball: Kenjon Barner spent Sunday night in a local hospital. Working to confirm his present status. He’s not at Sacred Heart in Eugene/Springfield.
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
more from Scout.com
Kenjon Barner’s stay in the Eugene hospital was pre-planned according the spokesman and there is no indication of any kind of “relapse” in Barner’s condition.
The nature of Barner’s injury has not been revealed, but the spokesman said that there was a possibility Barner could be released from the Eugene hospital on Monday afternoon or evening.
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
Given his time on the ground,
it is prudent to be careful.
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day
I can think of some practical medical reasons for this too
Pullman Regional Hospital might not have all the medial doohickeys (MRI, EEG, neurosurgeon) that Sacred Heart has. I thought it was a little worrisome that he was transported to Eugene from Pullman ‘with the team doctor’ as reports had said yesterday.
My name is Cliff Harris, and I’m here to lock shit down.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Just be glad they shipped him to Sacred Heart in Eugene..
.. and not Providence Sacred Heart in Spokane, which is where they would have flown him from PRH if there was anything serious going on with his injury.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
Hmm..
I thought he wasn’t at Sacred Heart..
[QUOTE]“He’s not at Sacred Heart in Eugene/Springfield.”[/QUOTE]
They just said a “Local Hospital”.. But I totally agree that it’s a great sign he’s in, or was in, a local hospital..
by SaintDuck3 on Oct 11, 2010 11:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Gaah. Now I'm confused.
Is he in Eugene or still in Spokane?
If he’s at Providence Sacred Heart in Spokane, it’s significantly more serious than if he was at Peace Health Sacred Heart in Eugene.
If he’s at neither of those, and “local hospital” is in the Eugene area, he’s got to be at McKenzie-Willamette. Having worked there, I can’t imagine he’d be there if there was anything seriously messed up.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
I wouldnt be too worried,
He was definitely responsive after the hit. I’m sure it was just precautionary.
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Totally off topic and freaky
You guys would NEVER believe what I just heard on “River Monsters” on Animal Planet. You actually DON’T want to hear it. Let’s just say that if you are ever in the Amazon boys, leave your swim trunks on.
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Let me guess: leishmaniasis of the bladder?
Guess how those little guys get in there.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
stop or i'm posting a picture of it.
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
Maybe
It might have been this, I’m not sure because I had to change the channel because the males in my house were LOSING THEIR MINDS and yelling at me to change it. But your entry point is on target.
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CaDuck: The hand of Juju
Ahhhh the dreaded
Willy fish. Follows the ammonia from urine straight into the urethra where it uses barbs to lock it in place.
by sacduxnutz on Oct 11, 2010 7:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
gee thanks daisy
i’m having sausage and peppers for dinner…
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
I’ve read articles about that…
I will never get within 100 miles of the Amazon simply because of that – just to be safe.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-F-O-R-G-I-V-I-N-G-D-A-I-S-Y"
yah know, i was joking about the sausage stuff
but guess what my mom brought home for dinner…
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
but guess what my mom brought home for dinner…
Bill Musgrave?
by JonathanPDX on Oct 11, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I learned about those little buggers from a surf movie.
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Rahim Moore, you're no John Boyett!
Are they totally gnarly, brah?
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 11, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. It's internetese for "enlarge"
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 11, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to see them use this term
on an Extenze commercial.
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CaDuck: The hand of Juju
sounds like an extenze commercial for Alabama
“If y’all wanna embiggen your johnny pole just pick up that there tel-ee-phone ’n call 1-88-dick-pain”
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
It's a perfectly cromulent word.
My name is Cliff Harris, and I’m here to lock shit down.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 11, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
From the Simpsons
Its not a real word, like Cromulent..both from Jebediah Springfield
A noble heart embiggens the smallest man.
— Jebediah Springfield, IIRC.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
Can anyone give the definition for the word Quizibuck without googling it?
by JonathanPDX on Oct 11, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
A "Bart-ism."
Like “cromulent.”
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 11, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, it’s official — James Rodgers is out for the season. Sucks for both the Beavers and Rodgers. Here’s hoping he makes a full recovery.
OT: For Duck Athletic Fund members:pre-Sale: Wednesday, October 13 from 10 AM to 10 PM PST
Tickets for this game will go on sale to the general public through the Rose Quarter Box Office on Friday, October 15th at 10 AM PST.
Game Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010
Game Time: Tipoff is currently scheduled for 1 PM PST
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
Never mind Duke. When can we get tickets for games @ the Matt?
I’m really looking forward to seeing an Oregon home game without jamming my knees into the back of the 1930s wooden seats in the balcony.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
anything special planned for the next 2 weeks w/ BruinsNation?
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
yes
in honor of BN, for game week that week, everybody will be banned.
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Sigh, time to focus solely on football.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 11, 2010 8:18 PM PDT reply actions
I JUST WON $40 DOLLARS ON THAT BRETT FAVRE INT!!! I BET THAT HE WOULD TURN THE BALL OVER ON THAT PLAY VIA LIVE BETTING!!!
(you know, if sports betting was legal;))
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
i know right?
all out blitz showing+needing 12 yards+3 step drop cause of the blitz+moss vs cromartie+favre known for forcing those kind of throws+everyone knowing moss was the target+no ints on the night=favre being due
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
for those with facebook (I'm too lazy to run this through tinypic right now)
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
Your laziness has wasted my time.
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Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
well i'm going to sleep
someone make the picture work if you want.
"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.
IMFREAKINIMPRESSIVE!!
Man, talk about a real “Football WARRIOR”!!
“OL loses tip of finger, keeps playing…”
http://sports.mobile.msn.com/en-us/ncaafb/article.aspx?aid=266372&acid=2&afid=24
Either that or this guy has his priorities SERIOUSLY out of whack!! :)
by SaintDuck3 on Oct 11, 2010 11:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I cannot believe that the coaches would even let him stay in without the tip of his finger.
Ça plane pour moi.
It isn’t like there are worse side-effects that could come out of a torn off pinky tip, aside from pain.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-F-O-R-G-I-V-I-N-G-D-A-I-S-Y"
I'm thinking from a parent's point of view, I suppose.
If I were watching the game and I saw my son hurt his finger, leave the game, then return soon thereafter I would feel right in making the assumption it was something minor and would have faith that the coaches made a completely safe decision considering the circumstances.
If I were to find out later that my son was playing without the tip of one of his fingers, I would be stunned and angered that the coach that we signed away our son’s future to let him remain in a football game without taking the time to get it reattached or let it heal over time.
It’s possible that it just wasn’t as bad as it sounded initially and that it was just a little bit of flesh off the top of the pinky, not even reaching the fingernail. But the way the article made it sound, it seems like the dude was missing flesh possibly part-way down the fingernail. If that is so, I am extremely surprised that the team surgeon and Frank Beamer both gave him the OK to get back out there. That is an open wound on his body.
Ça plane pour moi.
If there is a failure, it would be from the team surgeon, who offered option to bandage and put the tip on ice. If it were serious enough, I doubt that he would have given that option, as his practice license and entire future would be in jeopardy for making a life-long damaging mistake like that.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
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