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Oregon Football Recruiting Roundup Part 1: What Do We Lose?

Its been awhile since we've taken an in-depth look at Oregon's football recruiting for the upcoming class.  Over the next few days, we'll have a series of articles talking about Oregon's 2011 recruiting class.

First off, to understand recruiting, you have to understand what the team loses and what its needs are for the next season.  In the first section of our Oregon Football Recruiting Roundup, we'll take a look at what we lose and what is projected to return, giving us a good idea of what the coaches may be looking for in the upcoming class.

By my count, Oregon will be losing 19 scholarship players to graduation this offseason.  Those players range in varying importance to how their departures will affect the Ducks.  Some are key starters.  Others languish at the bottom of the depth chart.  Here is my count of which scholarship players graduate:

Star-divide

OL:  Jordan Holmes, CE Kaiser, Bo Thran

RB:  Remene Alston

QB:  Nate Costa

WR:  Jeff Maehl, DJ Davis

TE:  Malachi Lewis

DL:  Brandon Bair, Zac Clark, Kenny Rowe, Tyrell Irvin

LB:  Spencer Paysinger, Casey Matthews, Bryson Littlejohn

DB:  Talmadge Jackson III, Marvin Johnson, Chad Peppars, Brian Butterfield

We can immediately see the places where the team will get hardest.  Both lines suffer the hit of losing three starters; Holmes, Kaiser, and Thran of offense, and Bair, Rowe, and Clark on defense.  Linebacker is another place where you see significant losses with both Matthews and Paysinger, so one would expect to hit both of those areas hard.  However, you can't simply look at losses, you need to look at who is coming back as well.  We lose a running back in Remene Alston, for example, but with four excellent backs returning next year, we don't necessairly need to recruit a running back.  A look at the guys coming back will also tell us how many scholarships Oregon has to play with.  Here are the scholarship players returning next season.  I do not factor in potential early entries, normal offseason attrition, or possible redshirts that still may be pulled:

QB (3):  Thomas (Jr.), Bennett (RFr.), Hawkins (So.)

RB (4):  James (Jr.), Barner (Jr.), Seastrunk (RFr.), Dontae Williams (RFr.)

WR (6):  Tuinei (Sr.), Huff (So.), Blake Cantu (So.), Nick Cole (So.), Eric Dungy (RFr.), Keanon  Lowe (R.Fr)

TE (3):  Paulson (Sr.), Brandon Williams (Sr.), Curtis White (RFr.)

OL (11):  York (Jr.), Asper (Sr.), Weems (Sr.), Nick Cody (Jr.), Karrington Armstrong (So.), Everett Benyard (So.), Jamaal Burrell (So.), Trevor Fox (So.), Ryan Clanton (Jr.), Nick Rowland (RFr.), Hroniss Grasu (RFr.)

DL (8):  Turner (Sr.), Heimuli (So.), Keliikipi (So.), Jordan (Jr.), Anthony Anderson (So.), Taylor Hart (So.), Isaac Remington (Jr.), Tony Washington (RFr.)

LB (7):  Clay (Jr.), Kaddu (Jr.), Lokombo (So.), Brandon Hanna (Sr.), Dewitt Stuckey (Sr.), Kiko Alonso (Jr.), Isaac Dixon (grayshirting, Fr.)

DB (16):   Harris (Jr.), Gildon (Sr.), Pleasant (Sr.), Lewis (Jr.), Boyett (Jr.), Grady (Jr.), Brian Jackson (So.), Avery Patterson (So.), Will Wallace (Sr.), Erick Dargan (RFr.), Terrance Mitchell (RFr.), James Scales (RFr.), Derrick Malone (RFr.), Troy Hill (RFr.), Dior Mathis (RFr.), Marcus Davis (So.)

ST (4):  Beard (Jr.), Maldonado (RFr.), Rice (Jr.), Drew Howell (So.)

Thats 60 62 returning players by my count, meaning we can bring in the full allotment of 25 new players 23 players and still meet the 85 scholarship limit.  Trends I notice:

1.  We return eleven offensive linemen, but not a lot of experience overall.  With five of those eleven being upperclassmen, you would expect the coaching staff to hit that position hard (and as we will see on the next installment, we already have four commits at that position).  Factor in that Hamani Stevens could possibly come back from his mission next season, but that's far from guaranteed.

2.  Our defensive line gets absolutely rocked.  We lose three starters, and there is a good chance that Ricky Heimuli leaves to go on his mission.  Major area of need at that position, and the Ducks only have one commit there so far.

3.  We are loaded with quality running backs and especially defensive backs.  Even though we lose some players at both of those positions, we don't necessairly need to recruit anyone at either.  Someone will have to be a special talent to get consideration from Oregon at either spot.  Also, while you may be wondering why Oregon has so many DBs, remember that the guys there who don't become stars make up the majority of your special teams.

4.  I'm optimistic about linebacker next season, even though we lose two starters.  Kaddu, Lokombo, Clay, and Stuckey have a lot of experience, and Alonso was coming along well before his injury.  However, with five upperclassmen going into next season, this is another spot Oregon needs to hit hard (and already has three commits).

5.  We could use a couple of wideouts, we only have six coming back, and only Huff and Tuinei aren't question marks.  While we don't have to replace little used Malachi Lewis at tight end, with two of the returning three being seniors, getting one in this class is not a bad idea.

6.  You know Kelly is always going to get quarterbacks, and he's already got commitments from two.  That means we can expect a position change from Daryle Hawkins, and I'd bet we'll see him as a wide receiver next season.

7.  Special teams are set for next season. 

In conclusion:

Need Positions:  Offensive Line, Defensive Line, Linebacker, Wide Receiver

Strength Positions:  Defensive Back, Running Back

In the next installment, we'll look at the players Oregon already has commmitments from this season.

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I would disagree that we need to get anymore WRs. We have three frosh this season and we have 1 coming in next season. Plus we have Cantu and Hoffman coming back wtih Tuinei. Maybe we hit JC for a player or two late, but I dont think we need to hit it hard till next year

"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.

by axemen23 on Oct 14, 2010 3:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I disagree

A lot depends on the progress that Cole and Cantu are making. Right now, they’re not seeing the field at all, though they’re still young. You point to Hoffman, but don’t forget that he’s a walk on. Even though he had a good spring, there’s a reason he’s not playing.

We lose Tuinei after next season, and with the size of Lowe, Huff, and Sumler, its unlikely that they become the great blockers that Tuinei, Davis, and Maehl have become. I’m not saying that we need to load up on wideouts, but I would like to see us get one more in this class, preferably someone over 5-10".

--Dave

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by David Piper on Oct 14, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we could easily find a JC kid to fill that blocker role

Hoffman isn’t playing because he’s just off the high-use rotation, or something off the field. He had a good fall too, but he’s behind Huff Maehl Davis and usually if we go 4 wide it’s Paulson or Williams out there. We found Tuinei from JC and there’s no reason we can’t find another. Another option is to just go apeshit triple option all the time.

"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.

by axemen23 on Oct 14, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

banking on a JC is a risky proposition at best

we have a ton of schollies to give out, and a ton of depth at a lot of positions. Why NOT get another receiver?

--Dave

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by David Piper on Oct 14, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because looking at our targets

we aren’t really close with a bigger guy

"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.

by axemen23 on Oct 14, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

we in the conversation for a few

Hawkins could develop into that kind of guy as well.

--Dave

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by David Piper on Oct 14, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I feel like I should say something smart.

by Jayon on Oct 14, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

good for him

though there is no guarantee of it being renewed from year to year. Beard is actually much in the same situation, where his schollie could be pulled for a new recruit. Hopefully, Hoffman can keep his scholarship.

That said, I’d still like another receiver in this class.

--Dave

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by David Piper on Oct 14, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard that Masoli kid was pretty good friends with the Grasu

"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.

by axemen23 on Oct 14, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our Grasu kicks the ball really far

As evidenced by his 50+ yarders this year. The only problem is he can’t hit anything under 50 yards. Weird, I know.

by Brian Floyd on Oct 14, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

DL: Brandon Bair, Zac Clark, Kenny Rowe, Tyrell Irvin

LB: Spencer Paysinger, Casey Matthews, Bryson Littlejohn

Are you trying to make me have a breakdown?

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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 14, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

It appears that *this* is the season...

Next year might not match up nearly as well as this year.

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 14, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

i stil think next year is

"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.

by axemen23 on Oct 14, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way. This year.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 14, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

D-Line

I’m not quite as worried about the D-line. We’ll have Keliikipi back, who is getting a lot of playing time, as well as Terrell Turner and JC transfer Remington. The lack of DT depth may actually persuade Heimuli to stick around as Haloti Ngata did.

We also have Dion Jordan and Brandon Hanna who are currently getting time in the rotation. Given all of that as well as the possibility of other JC transfers, I’m not too worried about all of that.

Receive seems to be the bigger concern for me. Maehl and Davis are playmakers who will be tough to replace. Tuinei flies under the radar but will show well, and Huff looks like a clear starter next year. So we’ve got at least one more spot to fill with either Cantu, Cole, Lowe or Dungy. I’ve read that it won’t happen, but maybe Diante Jackson could return if he got his grades in order?

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by FormerDuckNews on Oct 14, 2010 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

completely forgot about Dion Jordan

need to fix that in the post. Thanks. Makes me feel a bit better.

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by David Piper on Oct 14, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess a lot depends on if Heimuli stays then

Turner-Heimuli-Jordan-Keliikipi is pretty decent, with Remington, Hart, and Anderson backing up.

--Dave

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by David Piper on Oct 14, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its not a bad rotation

Those first 4 guys are talented and are getting lots of playing time this year, even if most of them aren’t technically starters. Remember Hanna has been used as a kind of Rowe-like rush end as well and has also seen the field plenty at DE.

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by FormerDuckNews on Oct 14, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know he couldn’t play this year because of his grades but what are the chances Diante Jackson plays next year?

by The Legend on Oct 14, 2010 3:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I thought he left?

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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 14, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's actually playing for a D2 school in Saint Louis

"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.

by axemen23 on Oct 14, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never heard that he left

by The Legend on Oct 15, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’s disappearing into the realm of “Hey… remember that one recruit we had…” and never to be heard from again.

It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"

by JShufelt on Oct 14, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well gaines is still in Eugene

Sorta.

"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.

by axemen23 on Oct 14, 2010 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about...??

I don’t see any mention of Marcus Davis (transfer) at the DB spot. He’s on scholarship isn’t he? And from what I’ve seen on a few reports he seems to be making quite an impression on the scout team and should challenge for a starting spot next year. Would that mean one less scholarship (23??) that would be available for new guys?

by tcoxor52 on Oct 14, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

yes, thanks. You guys are catching the guys I missed.

That what I count on y’all for. You got my back.

--Dave

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by David Piper on Oct 14, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did a quick double check

really think we have them all now. Its also worth noting that we’ll almost certainly lose two guys by normal attrition, so we probably could get 25 if we wanted to. Especially if one or two of them would be willing to grayshirt if needed.

--Dave

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by David Piper on Oct 14, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't Cantu grayshirt a year or two ago?

"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.

by axemen23 on Oct 14, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grayshirted and redshirted last year

So he’ll be a sophomore next year. We’ll see if he can get his shoulder healthy. The guy has looked good in the Spring games, but no visibility at all the rest of the year.

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by FormerDuckNews on Oct 14, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's a short crafty guy

a Maehlman-Lite if you will…

He’ll hopefully see increased visibility in that role next year.

Cole is a flat out burner,somehow. Killed the secondary on 3 straight plays during fall camp one day.

"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.

by axemen23 on Oct 14, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

heard he's got hops too

I’d really love to see Cole and Cantu get some opportunities.

One thing that I think people forget is that Brandon Williams can act as a bigger receiver. Given that, we could conceivably see sets with Tuinei, Huff, Williams, Paulson, Curtis White and LaMichael James or Kenjon Barner, with Thomas leading the way. Scaaary.

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by FormerDuckNews on Oct 14, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marcus Davis is going to be a very good player.

He would have been a three year starter at Texas had he not gotten in trouble.

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by CaDuck on Oct 14, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup

"I was being a smartass." --TQA8. October 4th, 2010. 8:26 PM PDT.

by axemen23 on Oct 14, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does Davis project more as corner or safety?

I know Lewis has played both positions. There is a lot of depth back there. I like it.

Who need's normal sleep patterns?

by AcadianTraverse on Oct 15, 2010 4:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Safety

Alright, who hit the F***ing"axemen mute" button...

by axemen23 on Oct 15, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

We're not entirely sure yet.

He played some corner for Texas, but has the size to play safety as well.

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by CaDuck on Oct 15, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Posts like this make a bye week tolerable

It’s nice to get a breather and look a season or two down the road, although it does require dealing in hypotheticals. Is it just me, or is the WR position incredibly volatile. Between the injuries that the wr position subjects players to, to knuckleheads like Holland (and now Gaines) and academic issues for guys like Jackson. I just have a hard time getting fired up over WR recruits until they haul in their first TD. Thanks for the post, Dave.

by fowlball on Oct 14, 2010 6:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Gaines and especially Jackson were huge losses for the future at WR, from what we heard about their scout team performance. It’s really too bad. I’m always amazed that kids manage to flunk out with tutors pretty much at their beck and call. They must be seriously lazy and skip class all the time?

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by daisyduck on Oct 14, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thing that pisses me off is that some people will use this as an excuse for paying players.

It was one of the themes of the Luchs article this week and I’ve read Jason Whitlock say the same thing. The argument being that the players don’t care about or value the education they receive. So Whitlock’s solution to players not valuing their education is to pay them. Heaven forbid we try to take steps to help them make the most of the premiere education they’ve earned.

Who need's normal sleep patterns?

by AcadianTraverse on Oct 15, 2010 4:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

or if they don't want an education

let them go to the UFL

--Dave

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by David Piper on Oct 15, 2010 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Jadeveon Clowney if you will

Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?

My name is not Bryce.

by Im Chris Hansen on Oct 15, 2010 5:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

hje may not be 5 star

but colt lyierla would be a nice pick up. The best player in the state should want to be here. alex mitchell too, even though he his a huge oline man that doesnt much fit the oregon oline we have seen lately

#88

by pipgras on Oct 15, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

he doesnt fit the system, so it wouldnt suprise me

but when an in state player is top 10 at his position he should be looked at. I love getting players from tx and fl, and everywhere else. but we should own oregon recruits, they shouldnt be going to nebraska and ucla

#88

by pipgras on Oct 15, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

but why take a guy that doesn’t work for us? Its not fair to us, and not fair to him. Mitchell would be a much better fit at OSU, quite honestly.

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by David Piper on Oct 15, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. Because that’s a recruiting violation.

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by jtlight on Oct 15, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

As a fan, you are still considered a “booster”.

It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"

by JShufelt on Oct 16, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do me a favor and go knock on Colt Lyerla's door

Alright, who hit the F***ing"axemen mute" button...

by axemen23 on Oct 15, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jackson, Gaines

So Diante Jackson and Gaines are done at Oregon? I assumed they be back next year after being academically ineligible this year.

by Grant H on Oct 15, 2010 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

well, Gaines was just arrested

so I doubt he’ll ever be welcomed back

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by David Piper on Oct 15, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

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