Quack Fix: Ducks get ready for UCLA and Cliff Harris looking to start
by ntrebon on Oct 19, 2010 6:30 AM PDT
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PrintI don't know about you, but after not having Oregon football for over a week, I can hardly wait for Thursday night. Here's some quack to help us all get there.
- Ron Bellamy takes a look at UCLA LB Akeem Ayers and recounts his remarkable interception off of Nate Costa deep in the Oregon end zone in last year's game. And, similar to Clint Ingram's interception of Brady Leaf in the Holiday Bowl, Ayer's in position to make the play because of his own "mistake" on defense -- in this case being fooled by a play-action.
- Adam Jude talks to Scott Frost, whose Nebraska team shared a national title in 1997, about his thoughts on the Ducks reaching #1 in the polls and their chance to stay on top. Also included are notes from yesterday's practice, including this nugget on Cliff Harris: "Sophomore corner Cliff Harris spent most of practice in Gildon’s place with the No. 1 defense...Depending on Gildon’s status, Harris figures to be in line for his first start of the season against UCLA." Somewhere, Matt Daddy is feeling faint.
- Chris Courtney has his practice report up from yesterday, which includes some quotes from Chip about the state of the defense.
- In one my least-favorite cliches, Ken Goe discusses Nate Costa's blue-collar approach both on and off the field. But, Ken does have some quotes from Nate and his offensive linemen discussing his plans for life after football.
- In Bob Clark's weekly glance around the Pac-10, he focuses on Jeff Tedford possibly being on the hot seat at Cal. As usual, Clark also has power rankings included at the end.
- ESPN LA's Kevin Yoon reports that Kevin Prince had an MRI done on his knee and is uncertain for Thursday's game.
- In volleyball news, the Ducks are up to #16 in the latest poll after sweeping the Beavers last weekend. Things look to get tougher this weekend as the Ducks will travel to take on #8 USC and #11 UCLA.
- The preseason National Collegiate Acrobatics and Tumbling Association’s preseason coaches’ poll has come out and Oregon is ranked #2. The Ducks did receive a first-place vote, and is only three points behind Maryland.
- Finally, in case you missed Jared linking this as a comment yesterday, KVAL has a number of video interviews with players about being ranked #1 and the upcoming UCLA game.
Go Ducks!
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1st
in the AP POLL!!!
Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?
My name is not Bryce.
by Im Chris Hansen on Oct 19, 2010 6:48 AM PDT reply actions
I thought
“blue collar” was reserved for describing white wide outs and running backs (ie. Wes Welker and Austin Collie). Much as “athletic” is reserved for black qb’s.
They did a great bit on this on, “The League”.
by sacduxnutz on Oct 19, 2010 7:12 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Regarding the term "blue collar"
From yesterday’s edition of The Alphabetical:
It’s condescending, especially since we don’t refer to a team with brainy, precise play as “white collar.”
This could be quite fun, of course, if you decided to do it.
“And Oklahoma State scores again!”
“This offense is smart, Todd, They’re precises. They know where the ball’s going and how to trick a defense into telling them where the weak spot in a defense. They’ve really got a white-collar mentality going.”
“They scored that touchdown in a Porsche Cayenne made of mortgage fraud. They don’t even look that happy about it!”
“Yes they did, and no they didn’t, Todd. That’s just the kind of privileged sangfroid this team has.”
“It’s like they’d rather be in Aspen!”
“Or playing lacrosse!”
“Or playing lacrosse IN Aspen!”
“It’s the pointless New Yorker cartoon of offenses.”
“That’s about right, Todd.”
For the record, this was all really a roundabout exercise in dissing Craig James, something which meets my unmitigated approval with rare exception.
"[Autzen Stadium's] steep concrete banks and closed ends turn a small but rabid crowd from WAC-sized cheering section into a horde of bees with megaphones capable of reaching 127 decibels of hatenoise." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Oct 19, 2010 8:02 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This ^ was funny
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
I heard a rumor
Wanted to see if anyone could confirm or deny it.
I heard that Easley is planning on transferring here from Florida. I’m at work so I can’t do the research myself. Can anyone help me out?
I credit my urine for the victory.
I'v heard this, too.
I don’t subscribe to message boards so I don’t know anything concrete. But I did some milling around online last night and saw a lot on Florida blogs about Easley just not fitting in with the Gators. I did read one thing where he sent out a tweet that said he, Chris Martin (who is also rumored to be transferring to Oregon as part of a packaged deal…but those two words, package deal, are the two most overused words in the world of recruiting), and someone else (perhaps Ronald Powell, but I don’t think so because he’s been playing this year as a true frosh) were basically like Wade, Bosh, and LeBron (Easley comparing himself to LeBron, of course, since he sent out the tweet) and were all moving somewhere together.
Sounds like he just needs a change of scenery, but what’s interesting is the Martin rumor considering he has already transferred from Cal to Florida.
Anyway…all that to say: I’ve heard the rumors, too, but I don’t know anything concrete. Anyone else know anything about this?
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
There have been rumors for a while that he’s not exactly happy at Florida. Rickert mentions that today, but seems to make the jump from Florida to Oregon very quickly.
Transfers are a really big step, especially after only a few months on campus. Let’s not forget, LMJ almost left Oregon. My guess is nothing happens from all this.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Yeah.
From what I could find last night online was just stuff on message boards, so take everything with a grain of salt: A lot of what I read was basically Martin and Easley had their lockers cleared out in August and haven’t suited up at all for any of the Florida games this year. Someone mentioned (again, just speculation) that they haven’t seen Easley on the sidelines at all this year, and this attitude really stinks (but then again, when a 5 star guy is threatening to transfer from your school I think you come up with all kinds of things to say to justify it).
It is interesting that two 5 star freshmen (although my guess is Martin would have to sit since he transferred from Cal) that play on the D-line aren’t playing on a team that could use them (Ronald Powell, another true freshman, is getting all kinds of playing time). So there’s a lot there for speculation, but just like everything with recruiting it’s all just rumor and fodder for the boards.
It would be exciting though if he decided to come here. However, judging from his tweets and other comments I’ve read I wonder if Kelly would reconsider in the same way he did with Gabe King.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Yeah it could just be a change of scenery thing...
for Easley. But I wonder if all the comments and tweets from Easley would rub Kelly the wrong way. I guess it would be a different environment, so maybe it’s a moot point.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Easley has played in 3 games this year, so I’m not really buying these rumors.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
And there ya have it...
Yeah. It’s why all that stuff on message boards from people who follow the team should be taken with grain of salt. I never believed any of what I was reading last night online, but I found it interesting. Good Bye week fodder, I suppose. Thanks for the link.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
I've thought a bunch about the #1 ranking the past three days, and I've come to the conclusion that I have nothing new to say.
Besides, it’s already been said, and said better than all of us:
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? IS THIS NOT WHY YOU ARE HERE?
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 8:25 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Is it just me...
or is Gladiator the most overrated Best Picture winner since The Greatest Show on Earth?
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Dunno if it's just you
but I thought that movie was freaking fantastic.
I know it’s just me, but Braveheart never did it for me. To each his own.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I never liked Braveheart, either.
I guess I just see Gladiator as being the worst movie Crowe won best actor for. I thought the two other films he was nominated for that bookended Gladiator, The Insider and A Beautiful Mind, were waaaay better performances.
Of course, I’m also not a Sword n’ Sandals fan. I never much cared for Spartacus, either. But I do remember Joaquin Phoenix being awesomely creepy in Gladiator.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Richard Harris was great, too.
And imo it was by far Joaquin Phoenix’s best movie, the one that makes me sad that he turned out batshit crazy.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Say Richard Harris and think Man Called Horse
I know what scene you’re thinking of.
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day
Seriously.
After watching that movie, knowing he really did that, who would ever mess with that guy. He’s got to be in his 70’s now, I wouldn’t.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Phoenix isn't crazy...
it was a hoax. I think Affleck ended up admitting that recently since the film about Phoenix finally came out.
Well, maybe that does just prove how crazy Phoenix is considering he would go that far playing an out of control actor. Kind of sad when you consider the tragic end of his brother.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Exactly.
Hoax or not, still batshit crazy. Why try and duplicate something Andy Kaufman already perfected? (And I’m sure Andy wasn’t the first, but I’m not old enough to go back any farther.)
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I love Braveheart, almost entirely because of the soundtrack.
And I’m willing to look over the nearly every single minute of all 3 hours worth of historical inaccuracies just to see some guy get smashed in the side of a face with an axe.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
by JShufelt on Oct 19, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I loved both Gladiator AND Braveheart. Braveheart is one of my favorite movies of all time. Gladiator is one of those movies that I will always sit and watch if I see it on TV. Then I’ll wonder, “Why am I watching this on TV when I have the unedited DVD? Meh, oh well.” And I’ll keep watching.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Oct 19, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do that with more than a few movies...
I always do that with “Fargo”…and when I just need to be cheered up whenever I see “Commando” on tv I have to watch. That has to be the best bad 80’s action movie ever made. So many good one-liners.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
by kolson82 on Oct 19, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
“Come on Bennett. You can take me!”
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
Is that Brian Bennett?
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Oct 19, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
"Let off some steam, Bennett!"
i can't believe you survived on this blog --
by axemen23 on Sep 2, 2010 9:06 PM PDT
"Could you get a blanket for my friend? He's dead tired..."
i can't believe you survived on this blog --
by axemen23 on Sep 2, 2010 9:06 PM PDT
Me too.
Sucks me in every time. Kill Bill does as well, and I’m sure once Inglourious Basterds shows up on TV I won’t be able to turn away from that, either. I actually saw Kill Bill vol. 2 twice in the same day. Such a great movie.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
"Remember when I said I would kill you last...
I lied"
(After breaking someone’s neck): “Stewardess…don’t disturb my friend, he’s dead tired.”
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
That's what it was!
I was thinking of that line, without looking it up. Cheesy at it’s finest!
i can't believe you survived on this blog --
by axemen23 on Sep 2, 2010 9:06 PM PDT
Here's a link to a video my brother made...
Obviously NSFW. Here’s the video.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Shakespeare in Love says Hi.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
by benzduck on Oct 19, 2010 8:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I would submit the following movies:
The Sound of Music
The French Connection
Terms of Endearment
Rain Man
The English Patient
Titanic
Shakespeare in Love
Chicago
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Million Dollar Baby
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
You are, of course, too young to appreciate the sheer awesomeness that is Gene Hackman as Popeye Doyle.
No argument with the rest, though.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
I will watch Academy Award Best Picture winners just to see what the hub-bub is about.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
Ahem. Daisy...
Clint Eastwood does not make “chick movies.”
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
I submit that this movie was made by his evil twin Chad.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
Chad Eastwood, what a pussy.
Go ahead, make me make your day.
One day, my dogs will stop barking outside.
by Bill Musgrave on Oct 19, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He didn’t make The Sound of Music, Terms of Endearment, The English Patient, Titanic, Shakespeare in Love, or Chicago.
And Million Dollar Baby wasn’t a chick movie.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
Can you imagine The Sound of Music as directed by Clint Eastwood?
The mind boggles.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
Or Quentin Tarrentino?
Inglorious Sound Of Basterds.
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 19, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t know about Tarantino.. but Clint’s been in at least one musical.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
The mail boy setting charges under one kid every time they start to sing.
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day
I think what this list proved more than anything
is that Oscars mean shit about the actual quality of a movie.
Although I really loved the whole LOTR series, and while ROTK wasn’t a typical Best Picture, it was a fitting recognition of the sheer scope of making that trilogy into a widely loved and acclaimed set of movies.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
The ones that REALLY jump out to me are The English Patient, Shakespeare in Love and Million Dollar Baby. I wouldn’t even call those good movies by any measure outside of the acting.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
Agreed.
Crash, too, for that matter. If I’m going to rip Braveheart for its historical inaccuracies than I can’t let Crash go without mentioning how laugh-out-loud funny and its take on race is. That movie elicited more eye-rolls out of me more than any other mainstream “prestige” picture. Well…“Babel” is a close second.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
That's funny
I liked The English Patient and Million Dollar Baby just fine, although they were both obviously quite melodramatic, so I can see why not everyone might like them.
Shakespeare in Love sucked. And that picture winning out over Life is Beautiful, The Thin Red Line, AND Saving Private Ryan? What a fucking travesty.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
The Thin Red Line
is truly one of the best war films I have ever seen. It’s like a dream. It’s just so well made, and I actually think — although it has a different tone — that it’s a better WWII movie than Saving Private Ryan.
I actually don’t dislike The English Patient (reminded me of old David Lean movies)…but like you say: the melodrama can be hard for some to handle.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Agree on Thin Red Line
It ruined other war movies for me. Saving Private Ryan was also excellent, thankfully I saw it before Thin Red Line so I don’t have to hate it.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Especially now that they've expanded it to 10 films...
the Oscars are a joke now. It’s kind of sad seeing as how in the 60’s and 70’s it really did try to award deserving films…it wasn’t just a popularity contest. Oh how TV ratings effect things!
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Chicago!
Okay…I stand corrected. What a shit movie. A failed attempt by Hollywood to recapture the magic of the Stanley Donen era musical…what a steaming pile. Thankfully “Nine” bombed and I think we can say goodbye to the musical for a while.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
There is only one return
and it is not of the king, it’s of the jedi.
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 19, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd for Clerks II reference
one of the best parts of that movie was the comparisons of the LOTR and Star Wars
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
We have cleaning supplies?
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 19, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I got the Clerks II "Lunchbox Set" for Christmas a while back
Included a name tag, Mooby’s cup and a Mooby’s visor. It’s not the coolest visor ever, but it’s up there.
i can't believe you survived on this blog --
by axemen23 on Sep 2, 2010 9:06 PM PDT
One ring to rule them all...
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 19, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
oh I'm the geek?
Look at you two whipping out your preciouses
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
They're not gay....they're hobbits!
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 19, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Just three movies about walking.
That’s all it was.
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
*Pssh* He's way off...
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 19, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Three movies about Frodo whining to go home
is more like it.
by daisyduck on Oct 19, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
No, I do really. I loved the movies – a lot. I just like to give you guys a hard time. You know it’s kinda like my hobby.
Ah, okay. I get irrationally defensive when it comes to hobbit-lore.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
That’s because you know you have to defend something that sucks.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
Two of the best selling books of all time beg to disagree. But ignorance is bliss, I suppose.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Taylor Swift had the best selling album last year...
Doesn’t mean she’s a wonderful musician.
Besides, Tolkien may actually be one of the reasons why I hate fiction literature.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
I love everything written by Tolkien and consider him the main reason why I appreciate fictional literature.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
De gustibus non est disputandum
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The length of this thread
would indicate otherwise ;)
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Not necessarily
I don’t knock on anybody for liking A or B over C. Or liking A when I don’t.
I just didn’t care for the Lord of the Rings novels. The story was some what intriguing, but I didn’t care for the endless descriptions, and trying to follow several simultaneous stories.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
aw, but I was trying to be clever
interpreting his latin, jshufelt…
< /notserious >
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
How's that working out for you?
Being clever?
Kiddin’ gdt. I thought your response was spot on.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
The ATQ Jersey Contest
keeps me fairly grounded about the enormity of my stupidity on most fronts…latin, I’ve got my head above water at least.
[WTFH, SEC and PAC 10, way to play hell with my predictions]
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The old Latin adage does not apply to people whose taste is for the Huskies, though.
Fuck them and all the horses they rode in on.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
dogs can't ride horses
or at least I’ve never seen it
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
You would make a great, feisty little hobbit.
One day, my dogs will stop barking outside.
by Bill Musgrave on Oct 19, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Cliff Harris begs to differ, as he knows of *three* returns.
So far.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
by benzduck on Oct 19, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wooo hooo!
Rec’d
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Rahim Moore, you're no John Boyett!
5 if you count the one called back on the penalty too
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
Which you can't do.
Small step from there to “if you take away all those big plays from the 2008 Civil War, it’s a close game.”
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
I love the Lord of the Rings movies
Probably even more had I not read the books. I just have a really hard time with the way they handles Helm’s Deep, the barrows and Tom Bombadil, the time line, GAH. Great movies though, you just have to accept them as they are.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
You won’t find many bigger fans of the books than I am. I sewed my own costume for the premier of Fellowship. And there were definitely some parts of the books that I missed (Tom Bombadil, the way they did the Ents, Faramir’s decision to take Frodo to Denethor, forgoing the Scouring of the Shire), but I thought the movies were very good. There is no scene in any movie EVER that will get me more fired up than seeing the Riders of Rohan appear on the hill above the Pelennor Fields. I’m getting chills just thinking about it.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Agreed
When the Riders of Rohan start their charge, just before they crash into the Orc army… pure gold.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
I also liked the scene where Aragorn turns around just before
wading into the orc horde coming out of the Gates of Mordor, says, with a voice of steel, “For Frodo!!”, and then charges…superb, simply thrilling…
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
You bow to no one.
I tear up every goddamn time.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
And when Pippin is singing the song for Denethor while he eats and Faramir rides into certain death…it gets a bit dusty in the room.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Really, I still can't forgive them for what they did to Faramir in the story
He would never have taken him to Denethor…
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
but did you write everything in elvish for a year?
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
My wedding band has an inscription in elvish, and our wedding invitations had elvish messages scrawled across the top and bottom.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
x
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 19, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds
Famously yelling “NEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS!”
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 19, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
If I'm correct this guy is also in the classic Blood Sport
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
NERDS!!!!!!
SUPER REC’D
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
If you're into the slightly comic offbeat...
- Harold and Maude
- Benny and June
- What’s Eating Gilbert Grape
And of course,
- Serenity
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
My wife and I are going through the Firefly series right now. Shame there are so few episodes.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Fox has a lot to answer for....axing the best series ever...
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Freaks and Geeks?
Not Fox.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Greg the Bunny
was cut too, I’m pretty sure that was on FOX
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
I prefer Russel Crowe
with Tugger and when he is “fightin’ round the world”
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
by haveasoda on Oct 19, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know what movie I like?
It comes on most saturday nights for about 3 months at a time and it’s called Duck Football. Seriously, where are your heads? The national championship game is this Thursday!
Quack Quack Bitches.
When we win out, and if the Beavs win out to CW
We would be playing the CW for NC and Beavs would be playing for the RB.
How things have changed in Oregon. Remember when either team was trying to score a point in a game?
CW history:
Score a point
stop other team from going to a bowl
stop other team from going to RB
winner goes to RB
possibility:
one wins NC, other wins RB
or
stop one from NC so has to settle for RB
If both teams win out, Beavs might even get Game Day.
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day
They won't get Gameday
Much as I’d like to think so, its conference title game weekend so they’ll probably go to the Big 12 title game (the last one ever).
They’re also almost certainly not winning out but that’s another story.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yes
Its currently the ABC Primetime game and they like to have it at or near that same game so sure. Only other possible may be Michigan State at Iowa.
I don’t want it, the home team has won the Gameday game every week this year.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
So you think there is a correlation
Between the presence/absence of game day?
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
For that matter, when was the last time Corso put on the head of a visiting team?
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
Alabama this year
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 19, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Bama at South Carolina a few weeks ago
He picked Bama.
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Because consider the alternative
A giant dong on his head? That’s mean to do to an old man that’s suffered a stroke.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
No meaner than making him do pushups while wearing a giant duck head.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
We didn't make him do anything
That was absolutely hilarious that he tried though.
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BeavOs lost too much...
when Rodgers went down I think for this to happen. I think their offense could have meshed into something special as Katz continued to improve, and that was really scaring me. Now, I think they may be a little one-dimensional.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
From the Hunt article, this made me laugh:
9, Cal: In sympathy for cut sports, dropped offense, too.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Interesting Video with Aliotti...
Including comments on Cliff Harris.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Excerpt from The "Boise State" Prisoner
We want information. Information! Information!!!
BSU: Who are you?
The new number two.
BSU: Who is number one?
You are number six.
BSU: We are not a number! We are Boise State! We are unbeatable and always win against everyone and have for decades and we play on special blue turf and Kellen Moore walks on water and Coach Pete is better than your coach and potatoes rule and Idaho sucks even though we live here and Craig James is biased and, and, and…
In Chip I trust. In Nick, not so much.
by JConant on Oct 19, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I am so happy we only have to wait two more days for this week's game
Glad we had a bye week and all that but I’m experiencing withdrawal symptoms. I need a LMJ TD run stat.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Thursday night at home worked well for us last year
Something about a war for some Roses I think.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I had a final that night
We petitioned the professor to change the presentations that WERE scheduled for that night to make it the final. My friend and I busted ass through it and got to the game just as Kenjon’s house call got called back for a hold.
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 19, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Really? STAT it is.
It’s all hypothetical. And I don’t deal with hypotheticals.
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 19, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
You beat me to it!
I was just about to quote that line too.
by JonathanPDX on Oct 19, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Kelly will go to the NFL someday
What was the offer from the Giants?
“It was a quality control job. I have a ton of respect for Coach [Tom] Coughlin. That was the closest I came to leaving because I think the world of Coach Coughlin. It probably was the wrong decision because a year later, they won the Super Bowl. I was probably stupid for not taking that one. For whatever the reason, it just didn’t feel at that point in time that it was the right maneuver.”
Would you like to coach in the NFL one day?
“I don’t know. I’m just happy to have a job. I just try to live one day to the next. I’m happy where I am right now.”
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember him saying...
he wanted to come to Oregon because he wanted to test his offense against USC. He’s wired by competition. Someday, he will want to compete in the NFL.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
But will the NFL want him?
College coaches have a pretty poor history of late as NFL head coaches. And as an offensive coordinator, I have to think he’d be labeled as a ‘spread guy’, even if, as I suspect, he could run a pro-style or any other kind of offense just as well as he runs the spread.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Spread, including the option, is slowly busting on the NFL scene.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
Plus watching the Colts run their Offense on Sunday Night
It was eearily similar how both teams spread you out, go up temple and no huddle.
It was also interesting that both teams have high octane Offense and a suspect (but good enough) Defense.
I really hope he doesn’t bolt, but I can see Chip having success at the next level. I don’t think a former Super Bowl winning coach would contemplate coming on as an Oregon Offesive Coordinator to learn the spread system if it had no relevance in the NFL.
by skyo12 on Oct 19, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Certainly a valid point
I don’t think a former Super Bowl winning coach would contemplate coming on as an Oregon Offesive Coordinator to learn the spread system if it had no relevance in the NFL
It was either Oregon O coordinator, or Analysist with ESPn, he seems to have made the decision based on still getting to coach up guys for ESPN
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
I absolutely, positively...
believe that Kelly is a football junkie through and through. He has stated he only ran the spread because they did not have any full backs at New Hampshire. He will run any system to perfection that will give him the best chance to succeed and he has alluded to as much. Just look at what he does to change our offense depending on the talent. The transition is seemless between quarterbacks and their strengths and our offensive production follows it (run heavy pass heavy etc). I think they will want him if he keeps winning, producing NFL talent, has the support of the likes of Gruden and others, and shows an ability to lead an innovate.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Also valid
He will run any system to perfection that will give him the best chance to succeed and he has alluded to as much. Just look at what he does to change our offense depending on the talent
There is proof of this even during a single game, from pressing the other team and pushing the tempo, to an entire 4th quarter just playing slow kill the clock football.
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
Plenty of team owners would jump at the chance
I mean…Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin.
There is a good chance Kelly leaves Oregon
I just dont see any reason to get worked up over it. Enjoy The Day. Every season he is here is a happy season for me.
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by trumpetduck on Oct 19, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed...
I just hope it never happens. I’m not sure you can make a guy like Kelly into a lifer.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Kelly's real thoughts on expansion...
“It flip flops every year [five road games and four home games one season, five at home and four on the road the next]. The thing I liked about our league when it was a 10-team league was that you played everybody, so you were the true champion. It wasn’t like, ‘Hey, we won our league, but we didn’t play these teams.’ It takes the guesswork out of it. If you’re the champion of the Pac-10, you truly are the champion because you play everyone on the field. I am a big fan of that.”
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
USC UCLA pay out? Cal and Stanford guaranteed games in LA?
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_/id/14684/usc-ucla-will-get-pac-12-payout
I am having a hard time seeing the positive here. Anybody want to help me out?
Also, wasn’t Chip on Colin Cowherd today?
Still trying to wrap my mind around two teams from the richest media center in the conference being guaranteed a payout in excess of every other team.
We revenue share bowl receipts equally, don’t we?
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
They won't
Larry Scott wants equal revenue sharing. Larry Scott set the threshold for that to happen. Therefor, you can pretty confidently say Larry Scott knows they will hit that target in 2012 with the new contract. It will be a one-year payoff in 2011 that’s a drop in the bucket because they stand to lose the most from equal sharing. Consider it a short transition to that.
We do share bowl receipts, I believe.
by Brian Floyd on Oct 19, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
USC and UCLA combined will actually be losing out slightly over the next year compared the current agreement.
This is a step in the right direction.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
It's a payout, but...
We have to remember that in 2011 revenue sharing will be equal outside of that payout. So you’ll see 9 schools splitting money equally, Utah — I believe — being a partial share member and the SoCal schools getting $2 MM on top of the equal share. Considering they make significantly more than most of the conference now, this actulaly does hurt them right away, even if the payout seems bad on the surface.
by Brian Floyd on Oct 19, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
If the revenue model for the past two years holds up, each school will get a little over 8 million, and USC and UCLA will get a little over 10 million. Since USC was already getting about 11 million per year, that’s really not too bad. USC’s loss of 1+ million will essentially just go straight to UCLA.
Pretty much what happens with this plan is that USC and UCLA start to revenue share, and the rest of the conference starts to revenue share. At least, for the next year until the new contracts are signed.
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Yup
If we’re only getting $2M a year from our media deal for each team, our deal sucks.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
It's purely a one-year concession for the long-term good of the conference.
Spread out among the other 10 schools, the payout in 2011 is a drop in the bucket. Come 2012, with a new contract, the payout goes away and we all forget it ever happened.
by Brian Floyd on Oct 19, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
And we don't have equal revenue sharing now
We finally will.
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I think the payout...
is a straight shake down of the LA schools… but what I am more interested in is how the Bay Area schools figured out a way to get annual LA games and how we benefit from that? Also, Utah and Colorado sure are getting fantastic treatment without much leverage imo… Seniority means nothing apparently…
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
It hurts OSU/WSU more than UW/UO
Especially us because we’re on TV all the time and we win, which are two more powerful recruiting tools than playing in So Cal every year.
Also, Kelly’s system means LOTS of players get significant playing time, a lot more than on most good teams, which means that we can and do recruit depth since guys know they will get their shot.
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Doesn't really hurt us.
We’ve typically gone after Northern California moreso than Southern Cali. UW, on the other hand, lives on SoCal recruits.
by Brian Floyd on Oct 19, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Starting to think this new emphasis on recruiting Texas and Florida is a pretty good idea, considering.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
We're now a national program
Sure we’ll get more recruits from our region than elsewhere but we now are in play for most top level recruits nationally.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
But but but...
all things are temporary except infrastructure. The infrastructure being laid in place for the success of the future is not the best imo…
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Our infrastructure is great
And PK will ensure it says that way.
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Not talking about facilities...
about media value, schedule, recruiting, etcetera. I fear the Big 12 case study of Texas flight. If our ship goes south but a little the setup might make it harder to rebuild… I rest in peace knowing Chip thrives on competition however and does not wallow in fear like me…
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
This is an incredibly narrow way to look at the situation. While we may lose a single game every other year in the LA area, we will be gaining so much more in money and exposure. This won’t hurt recruiting or rebuilding (if it ever comes to that). If anything, it will help it if you have people in place that know how to work with their resources.
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And those resources will be that much greater too
National exposure, larger pools of money for recruiting and an increase in stature across the country as a conference and as a school in that conference can’t be a bad thing to replace a game in LA every other year.
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
Well fortunately...
My incredibly narrow way of looking at it is contained in this comment. I feel overall expasion is good; I was not talking big picture but rather the specific fact of Bay area schools getting LA games. What possible reason is there to give this concession? When contrasted against the zipper model which falls into the category of it makes too much sense to do it, the north south division split with conceding LA games to two of the North division schools it fails in comparison. Why the leg up for the Bay Area schools?
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I may be interpreting your comment incorrectly, but
I hate the zipper model. I hate the idea of possibly playing OSU in a rivalry game and then having to play them again a week later for the conf championship. Also, if either team is already locked into a champ game through their division it decreases the importance of the rivalry if you’re looking at playing them again a week later. That’s just one of the reasons why I dislike the zipper model.
As for conceding a game or two to No Cal, fine, it really doesn’t bother me much. We’ll play our division, and not worry about it (personally I’d rather have a game against Zona or ASU at this point then UCLA). I don’t think it hurts recruiting like everyone argues, and with a new TV deal we’re not looking at games getting bumped off TV (like the WSU game) because of some preferential treatment for LA. I like the geography better than a zipper and I don’t really care if No Cal sits in a corner and whines until they get their way.
I really care more about where the Conference Championship Game is played. That to me is of more importance than whether or not Cal plays UCLA every year.
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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I think the conference championship game...
being a repeat is a very small chink in the armor of the zipper. For one, how often is that going to happen? For two, you could easily work around that. How about just call it an elimination game if it ever does happen or move the rivalry games up? The only argument I heard against the zipper from official sources was that it was a “marketing” problem because it would challenge people to recognize which teams were in which conference. I find that just silly.
As for conceding to the Bay Area, the question I have is why? I can’t see any reason for it so why do it? It also makes our division less balanced. I get making concessions to the LA schools…. is this effectively a concession to the LA schools?
I absolutely agree with you on the conference championship game. If they do it like the Pac ten tournament in basketball conceding to UCLA, I’ll yell until I spit and yell some more. There is no logical reason for them not to either rotate it, play neutral site, home field advantage format, etcetera.
However, I think you are downplaying what happened in the Big 12 though. There is threat of southern flight and retention long term due to the media investing in the “Pac South” because LAX, PHX, DEN, SLC > SFO, SEA, PDX. As long as we are winning it does not matter. As long as we have big donors it does not matter, but if either of those things change it puts us at a disadvantage. It is the job of the administration to set us up in the best long-term situation as possible. It will never be as bad as the Texas situation. The Pac ten is too diverse and there are just too many good places to live and be a student athlete. However, it is a disadvantage nonetheless but given I’m not privy to all the inner workings it might be a small price to pay for equal revenue sharing which was certainly the death knell for the Big 12 which I keep referring to.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The Zipper was a non-starter. While you may find the marketing issue “silly,” it wasn’t, especially with the international marketing the Scott is going to push. Simple will be far superior in the long run.
But what exactly is being conceded to the Bay Area schools? The LA schools wanted unequal revenue sharing, games against California schools, and to be in the same division and California. They got games against California schools. Seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Also, the comparison to the Big 12 is just not applicable at all. The Big 12 South had all of Texas and Oklahoma. The Big 12 North had Kansas and Nebraska and Colorado. The population imbalance there was shockingly bad. Furthermore, Texas used that clout to push everyone else around, which was really what brought it down, and forced Nebraska out. This is not the case with USC. They pushed for things their way a bit, and got some rather small concessions.
As far as people focusing only on the Pac 12 south, that will only happen if the Pac 12 North falls apart as a whole, like the Big 12 North did. I don’t see that happening. This model preserves a good level of competitive balance, and gives pretty much all the teams a chance to succeed. There really isn’t that much not to like.
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First...
It is silly. Please explain to me why it is more intuitive to put Colorado and Utah in the South Division? The zipper model would have allowed for a pretty clear west and east division, or coastal or mountain, or whatever. Point being, the current model does not give any more clear delineation of divisions, and regardless the assumption is that people are stupid which they are not, and that not being able to know which teams are in which division is a bad thing? It is all the Pac XII.
Your second point was the question I was asking. Was the concession that the Bay Area schools playing in LA every year a concession to the LA schools or the Bay Area schools? It makes a little more sense under that context if that is what it is.
The comparison to the Big XII is applicable while not similar. I already said in other posts that mostly I see too many reasons for the results of that case study to not happen to our league, however, not playing in LA is a big deal. There really is no other way around it…
Chip Kelly himself " It’s still huge. Our No. 1 group of players on our team, I think 60 percent of our team, comes from California, and the predominant amount of those guys are from Southern California. It’s really going to the bigger metropolitan areas in this country and trying to mine that talent. It’s huge. Southern California high school football is outstanding, and we’re in battles all the time down there. We may not get them; there’s probably 20 kids on this (UCLA) team that we’ve offered scholarships to that we’re going to play against on Thursday. But all those guys are real familiar faces with our coaches. And almost every one of our assistant coaches has a part of California as their recruiting area, along with other places. California is huge for us in recruiting, and always will be."
So in other words, this huge fertile recruiting ground will not get an annual visit from our team where we have an opportunity to be visible… There may not be “that much to like” but there is definitely some things not to like. We got equal revenue sharing and that’s a big deal, but it is OSU and WSU that gain the most from that not us. Other schools got equal revenue sharing, annual LA games, a more marketable division, a jump into a BCS league or better fit league etcetera.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The zipper model would have allowed for a pretty clear west and east division, or coastal or mountain, or whatever.
And which team would be coastal/west and which team would be mountain/east between OSU and UO or Cal and Stanford or UCLA and USC? Clearly a north south split is much easier to understand with NW schools and Northern California schools.
Was the concession that the Bay Area schools playing in LA every year a concession to the LA schools or the Bay Area schools?
To the Bay Area schools. They give up a “supposed” rivalry with an original member of the Pac 8 with huge fan base in both areas (North and South). Is it really that large a concession to make?
As to recruiting, I see absolutely no evidence that is the case. We can throw out hypotheticals all day long about kids wanting to play near home, or whatever, but until someone shows me real evidence that recruiting is hurt by divisional splits (not conference changes or affiliation, but divisions) I’m really not going to believe that using a divisional system such as the zipper is going to solve that problem.
We got equal revenue sharing and that’s a big deal, but it is OSU and WSU that gain the most from that not us.
You’re also not looking at this from So Cal’s angle. Revenue sharing is a huge hit to them. They are the media draw for the conference. OSU, WSU, UW, and yes even Oregon need to make concessions for the betterment of the conference, just like USC and UCLA and the No Cal school do. This is about advancing the conference on a whole, not just Oregon. A stronger, more visible, marketable, and desirable conference helps all of us. So if we have to give No Cal a game against So Cal, and So Cal has to give up money to OSU in order that we are all better off in the long run, why use a system that down the road can undermine that? There’s a reason the ACC is flailing and I’ll argue part of it is because the conference has no real identity. There’s a reason the Big 12 is imploding and that’s because the big boys wouldn’t come to the table and work with everyone. You can talk about how a zipper solves everything, but in reality the marketing of the Pac 12 brand will be hurt by it and it undermines a number of natural characteristics that make the Pac 10 special today.
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This would all have been a lot easier if Scott had managed to pull off the Pac-16.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
Amen...
though… I think then perhaps we get into Matt Daddy’s “identity” argument…
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Well...
First, I was just throwing out potential divisional names which were not important. What was important was the point that they would have some sort of inherit flaw just like having CO and UT in the South does. There is no improvement from a marketing angle other than people feeling warm and cozy about a "North" and "South" division. Call the zipper divisions green and yellow; It won’t matter it is the Pac XII. We are not the ACC we are the Pac XII. You can’t confuse what the Pac XII is. It stretches all along the West coast and invades the desert and mountains. We are not mixed in like the ACC with other big name conferences. The identity will always be there.
What is scary to me is why do they want to "market" each division? That is a road we definitely do not want to go down. A zipper split splits all markets down the middle. The conference is sold as a whole. Do you want ESPN saying okay we will pay X amount of dollars for exclusive rights to the South division and left over rights to the North division and Fox Sports saying, okay then we will pay Y amount of dollars for North and leftover rights to the South? I understand the even revenue distribution mitigates that problem a bit but it gives LA more clout in the future with increased attention on better networks. Zipper model prevents that from happening.
Second, there was no rivalry as you are implying and yes I do think it is a big concession because there was no need to make it and because they are members of the North division now with a comparative advantage over their divisional opponents. It makes the schedule less balanced and gives them perhaps another recruiting advantage and potentially favorability from media.
Third, I agree that there is no concrete evidence about recruits other than analyzing the Big XII situation and listening to the talking heads and even some coaches, but you can say anecdotally that strategically appearing in So Cal every year is a big deal to be visible to your most important recruiting area. You come down, get in the press, make some scouting trips, hopefully kick an LA’s school’s ass and remind the kids who the new powerhouse is and get out of town. If Chip Kelly says 60 percent of our kids come from So Cal you don’t think those kids who are interested in checking out Oregon buy a nosebleed seat? So the zipper guaranteed we would get to do that every year. It did solve this "problem."
Also, I mentioned in some other posts that the pay-out was a drop in the bucket and the So Cal schools got shaken down. I totally agree that is a big deal and I am surprised and even impressed they bought into the greater good of even revenue distribution. I am looking at it from So Cal’s angle but you said this was a concession to the Bay Area schools?
Ultimately, what I would like to see happen is figure out how we can get to LA every year, play one more conference game, ditch all non-division one competition, have even revenue distribution and play the title game in Vegas. Then I’ll have a huge grin on my face. This new model makes my grin a little more narrow than the zipper.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Who said anything about marketing a specific division or having contracts for one division and not the other? Where has this even been implied?
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I did
It seems natural to me that if you are talking about a conference being or not being marketable because of the divisions that what is really being discussed is how marketable each division is. Then, what kind of attention each division gets accordingly because of it and therefore different stipulations in the minituae of the contracts could easily be added. You think it is coincidence that the South is going to have the three biggest markets in the Pac XII under its scope? I hope it is.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Larry Scott won’t be marketing specific divisions. It will be the Pac-12.
Also, here are the biggest TV markets in the US by rank:
2. LA
6 Bay Area
12 Phoenix
13 Seattle
17 Denver
22 Portland
32 Salt Lake City
It’s really not even as close to uneven as you’re making it out to be. As far as division alignments by geography go, it’s as close and balanced as we could ever hope to get.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Portland's really the #22 market in the US?
Never would’ve guessed.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Portland's a rather large city
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
I know, I just wasn't aware that the metro population was 2.2 million.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Well...
I had my PHX and my SFO flipped because I forgot PHX MSA is much smaller in terms of ranking by MSA/DMA than by city… but the point is the same… The top three markets because of the Bay Area deal for LA games is covered by the South…. So in other words 2, 6, 17, 32 >>> South… 13, 22 >>> North… 6 split. I don’t view that as close.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, Phonecians don't much care for college football (in general).
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The top three markets because of the Bay Area deal for LA games is covered by the South
What the hell are you even talking about?
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Okay...
Bay area schools will play LA schools every year… by covering the South (media) you cover the bay area schools too. I don’t appreciate your attitude.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That doesn’t even make sense.
And I’m not having an attitude. I’m just utterly confused by what you’re suggesting.
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From the article...
“It’s also likely Bay Area schools, which wanted to be in the South division, will get guaranteed annual games with the L.A. schools. The popular perception is not having an annual game in Southern California will hurt the Northwest schools’ recruiting.”
Meaning if you guarantee games between Bay Area and LA schools every year and you televised every LA school’s game you will have four games against the Bay Area schools annually. So that basically means the SFO market is also covered by the South division… and by guaranteeing games for SFO schools that makes even more limited opportunities for NW schools to play against LA schools.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think that the Bay Area schools will be “covered” by South division at all. The guarantee will mean an extra game per year.
The main problem is that you’re separating the South and North for TV markets. This simply will not happen. The Pac-12 will be strongly united.
The only other seriously thought about division split would have put the Bay Area schools in the south. This would have been very hard on the Northwest schools. This split is not, and shows that the Pac-12 will be unified strongly moving forward.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Stupid formatting
that’s
20 sacramento
28 San Diego
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
the current model does not give any more clear delineation of divisions
This statement isn’t even a little bit true. We will have two divisions based on geography, rather than essentially picking teams at random.
However, not playing in LA is a big deal. There really is no other way around it…
I just don’t agree with this at all. There are two main reasons why playing in LA used to be very important: Money and exposure. It used to be that you only got money if you played in LA, and you only got significant exposure playing in LA. It’s simply no longer the case that playing in LA will bring you either of these things.
We’ll end up with more money with these moves, and with the new TV contracts, we’ll end up with more exposure, not only in Southern California, but nationwide.
The only conceivable argument that has been brought up about recruiting is that some recruits will want to play in front of family every year. I would be shocked if this were in any way significant, and could be a selling point and not a hindrance. If you’re willing to move a great distance away to go to school, that simply doesn’t factor in. And let’s not forget that we already generally dealt with this issue before the conference went to round-robin scheduling. We’re going to hear about this when we miss out on one or two recruits over the next few years (though that will be far from the real reason), and then it’ll become the norm and everyone will forget we even had this discussion. I seriously doubt our Southern Cal recruiting will suffer at all.
Lastly, I’m not really sure where you’re at on this. On one hand, you talk about this move like it’s good, but say it could hurt us if we take a dive. But then you say that equal revenue sharing won’t help us now, while ignoring the fact that it would help us if we took a dive. You say our division won’t be as marketable while in the same post saying the zipper would work because it’s all the Pac 12.
Oregon got equal revenue sharing and solid division alignment out of this deal. Considering that we’re not really in a position to be making a lot of demands on other schools, I think we made out pretty damn well.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Why does alignment based on geography...
make a conference more marketable and why is the clear delineation of the divisions important at all? It is the Pac XII. That is all you need to know. The SEC is the SEC. They don’t talk about it in any other way.
As far as going to LA every year, you don’t think being part of a division that shows up in a kid’s home town every year does not play into the long-term strategy of recruiting well in California? Association is important. I don’t know exactly how much, but I can envision a scenario where a kid feels allegiance to the “South” and antagonistic towards the “North”. Right now it is just the Pac X… In a zipper model that feeling would be mitigated.
As far as where I am I want to be clear for me this is a discussion not an argument. I am not supposing I have all the answers or my opinion is the right one or that if you scrutinize all my positions that youwon’t find some contradictions as I could do with yours. For clarification, overall I think expansion is a great idea. How could you go wrong in adding two great institutions in beautiful areas? However, the divisional split is not ideal for me because we won’t show up in LA, I don’t like the Bay Area market getting LA games every year (think biggest markets in the Pac in order LAX, PHX, SFO, SEA, DEN, PDX, SLC by covering the “South” division you cover the top three of them from the media standpoint). I believe there are better and more innovative solutions than the North and South split.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
First, it’s going to be the Pac-12. The SEC is the SEC, but they do have an SEC West, and an SEC East. They just don’t play a huge factor, and the Pac-12 will be the same way.
I can envision a scenario where a kid feels allegiance to the "South" and antagonistic towards the "North". Right now it is just the Pac X… In a zipper model that feeling would be mitigated.
This is precisely why we didn’t want to go with a zipper format. We want those types of feelings. We want to market the Pac-12, and that happens when those feelings are there, at least among fans.
The good news about this though is that won’t likely impact recruiting to any significant degree. Sure, some recruits have preconceived ideas about what schools they want to go to, but we go after the same kids as Washington, Oregon State, etc. Rivalries and geographic infighting don’t often play a role in recruiting. Kids take their visits, and make the decisions that’s best for them. The division alignments won’t change that at all.
But I really don’t think that will manifest itself much in recruiting.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
alignment makes it way more marketable
you want your conference to be easy to follow. There is value is a fan being able to watch one of your games and tell whats going on. And i’m not just talking about casual fans. Do you have any idea who is in the ACC Coastal?
I think the zipper from that standpoint alone was a bad idea. Add the part about it destroying rivalries, and the zipper is just a bad idea all around.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
I look at the ACC Standings every single week and I couldn’t tell you who is in the Costal division. And I can’t even tell you the name of their other division.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I’m going to take a wild guess that the ACC was incredibly creative and named the other division, “Atlantic”.
Except
he didn’t include the period within the quotation marks.
OK, my brain is now officially broken.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Very ...
disimilar situations the ACC and the Pac XII. I don’t think you can pin the ACC’s problems on non-intuitive or lack of geography based split.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually VERY similar
The ACC alignment makes NO sense to the casual fan or the fan of something else.
Die-hard Pac x fans will follow their team in any event. But the ones that may or may not follow the conference won’t take the time to no be confused by a non-sense alignment that will still blow up when the power base shifts as it does from time to time.
Alignment is about marketing to NEW audiences, which is where NEW money comes from.
Andy Wooldridge, andy_wooldridge@yahoo.com
BuildingTheDam.Com
Go Beavs!
Not sure why the “California Velcro” model couldn’t get any traction. It made perfect sense — to me at least — to put USC and Stanford in a division with ASU, Arizona, Utah and Colorado. The rivalry games could have been preserved, every team would wind up in SoCal at least every other year, etc.
Agree wrt the possible rematch in a conf championship game, but with the Velcro split the only risk of a rematch would be USC v UCLA or Cal v Stan; the former has happened but is unlikely to recur, and the latter is a joke.
Maybe the league should split into 6 divisions of two teams each. Yeah, that would work.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
I like that equally as much...
and… do the following… Pac ten says no more games against division two opponents and increases conference games +1…
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
It's really not a shakedown at all.
They’re losing ground in this deal — and losing a lot of it.
by Brian Floyd on Oct 19, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I meant...a shakedown OF
the LA schools… meaning… they are taking a very slight payout and giving up a lot.
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah
But who cares? We (NW schools) concede some scheduling, but gain a lot of money. It’s good for us.
by Brian Floyd on Oct 19, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I am torn by it...
because I don’t think we are similar to the Big 12. I think the West coast and therefore PAC 12 has a lot more to offer the kids in terms of options. If you like the desert, you got the desert, if you like the glitz of so cal, you got so cal, if you need a top tier education you have the bay area, if you like passion, greenery, fantastic climate, and raw utter beauty you have the NW, and now if you like the largest peaks in the United States, you have those too. I think this is part of a fundamental reason why the conference has a lot more parity through and through. There really is not a bad place to go and play sports if you are a recruit in the Pac 12.
What I do fear though is long-term media investment and attention into the divisions. Does the Pac 12 gradually just become the Pac 6 and those other guys that show up for the title game as the national media invest in the biggest markets: LAX, PHX, and DEN > SFO, SEA, PDX
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
For your edification, other worlders:
There are a plethora of varieties of trees in Eugene; many of those trees are changing the color of their leaves as I write, not from ‘green’ to some other color but from beautiful to ineffable, right before our eyes.
And, it is a n absolutely GORGEOUS DAY in Eugene, sunny and stunny.
And to make it even better? The ESPN 3D 18 wheeler is set up right now on the south side of storied Autzen Stadium.
All is right with the world, my yellow-billed Dudes and Doodettes. The Ducks are Absol-fucking-lutely # 1 in the universe.
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
Need some help for the next "This Week In The Suffering"
Trying to decide between three games. I don’t have a three-headed coin, so please vote for your favorite (or least favorite) —
- October 27, 1973: Oregon 58, Washington 0 (they don’t all have to be losses, do they?)
- October 27, 1984: WSU 50, Oregon 41 (Rueben Mayes sets NCAA rushing record with 351 yards)
- October 24, 1981: Air Force 20, Oregon 10 (Churchill grad Marty Louthan comes home, proves untackleable)
Suggestions welcome.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
10.27.84 gets my vote
and, have you done Notre Dame? link?
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
chip kelly is scheduled to be on xm 143 @ 10 tonight. And Shawshank Redemption
should’ve won best movie over Schindler’s List.
Schindler’s List was at least worthy of its Best Picture award.
Shawshank looks good in retrospect, although I suspect its greatness is at least partly influenced by the fact that it’s been shown on TBS almost nonstop for 15 years.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
I would watch a Shawshank Redemption channel if it ever came to pass.
That movie is ranked T1 in my personal canon.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure most DVD players have a "repeat" button.
You could just find an old one and plug it into your system..
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
But then I'd miss the commercials every 10 minutes.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
This is why I have the DVD.
One of my favorite movies of ALL TIME, too.
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup. Them dudes drinking beer on the roof...in prison.
Gettin’ out by listnin to the hopry singer.
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
You were making out during Schindler's List?!
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
HAHAHAH
I love Chip
Q: Where would you like to see a Pac-10 league title game played?
A: “I never have played in one, so I’d just be guessing. I think they should be played in Eugene, Oregon, every year. If they ask me for my vote, I think Autzen Stadium is the best in the Pac-10 and I think it would be the best place to host a championship game every year.”
by skyo12 on Oct 19, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That was my favorite quote, too.
See? Chip is funny, not mean!
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Great Cliff Harris article...
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2010/10/oregon_football_cliff_harris_h_1.html
A highlight: He did that in describing his unusual pregame ritual of circling his teammates. If you watch closely just before the start of the UCLA game, you’ll notice all but one Oregon player jumping up and down in a close bunch near midfield.
All but No. 13, who is circling that jumping ball of enthusiasm, feeding off of it.
“It’s like a big thing of energy right there, I’m trying to absorb it all,‘’ Harris said. "It’s kind of like a whirlpool, you know how you go in a circle so fast you start making like a little tornado?’’
There’s a singularity joke in there somewhere, but I haven’t figured it out yet…
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
All I know is...
Cliff might just be flirting with the human species….
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anybody...
have this downloaded or off the ESPN site?
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Shows how over valued recruit rankings are. Thurmond, Byrd, Ward, and Chung were all
1 or 2 star recruits and all 4 are playing on Sundays.
To a point....
There is pretty high correlation of teams that consistently get highly rated recruiting classes and wins.
Possibly misleading, because there is a good co-relation between
high-star recruits self-selectively going to the schools which have good coaching/facilities/resources/tradition/winning edge.
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not misleading at all. It goes both ways. Good players want to go to good programs. Good programs want to have good players.
Not having good players will create a talent ceiling (Ref: Oregon State)
And having good players without good coaches, they will never reach that ceiling (Ref: Notre Dame)
The teams that go to national championship games have had a high correlation of highly rated players.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
What's misleading
is the fact that recruits’ stars go up in number if they’re known to be coveted by high-profile programs.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
That isn’t misleading. A high-profile programs may find more about players than the recruiting services. When that happens, recruiting services will look closer at a player.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
So if D Head is a 2* recruit that Alabama looks at
and then Shadyscouts.com looks at him closer, and decides he is a 4* recruit, but doesn’t do the same for the 2* recruit that Oregon State looks at,
then there is no talent ceiling @ OSU.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
This happens to some degree, but this isn’t the rule. Most of the kids that the big schools go after are fairly well known, have been going to camps for a long time, and have been rated. Sometimes a kid will blow up his senior season, and get upgraded because of that.
A far bigger issue than changing stars when big schools take interest is that fact that east coast kids receive higher star ratings than their west coast counterparts generally, for no real reason.
Still, for all its imperfections, recruiting rankings are quite useful.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
It would be interesting to see the recruiting rankings of the starters in the NFL. I wonder if would be mostly 4-5 stars or a more homogeneous blend of star ratings.
ESPN.com recently (like within 6 months, I think) published a "Where are they now?" for ten years of their Top 100's
It’s not quite what you’re asking for, but was interesting for me to read.
I’m not saying recruiting services are useless, but I do think they have obvious biases. Like everything, I take them with a grain of salt. And I think the difference bewteen the top-rated class and (say) the 20th-rated class is very likely statistically and clinically insignificant.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the difference between the #1 and #20 classes are pretty vast. The differences between #20 and #35 not so much. It’s incredibly tough to win a national title unless you’re in the top 10 of recruiting every year.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
we're #1 in the country
what’s our average recruiting ranking for the past 5 years (true frosh-RS senior)? It ain’t top 10, thats for sure.
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Rank, School, Avg Rank Past 5 years (According to Rivals)
- USC 2.83
- Florida 5.67
- Alabama 7.67
- Georgia 8.50
- Florida State 8.67
- LSU 8.67
- Oklahoma 8.67
- Texas 8.67
- Michigan 11.50
- Ohio State 11.83
- Auburn 12.17
- Miami (FL) 12.67
- Tennessee 14.00
- Notre Dame 15.50
- South Carolina 18.50
- Clemson 19.50
- Nebraska 19.67
- UCLA 19.67
- Texas A&M 22.00
- Penn State 22.33
- California 22.83
- Mississippi 22.83
- Virginia Tech 23.17
- Oregon 25.33
- North Carolina 26.83
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
For me, this doesn't really pass the eyeball test
They’re all big name programs. I need a personal stats nerd to run a chi-squared test on this vs. BCS rankings and give me an r-value. Or whatever.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Hinton gets you close...
Part 1 of this series covers how rankings set a ceiling on team success, while Part 2 covers who becomes All-Americans.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Of course there are under-the-radar players. Both the Rodger brothers are clearly this type of classification. Jacquizz was a 3*, James was a 2* player.
But I don’t have faith that Riley can compete with the more aggressive recruiters, and so he spends his energy finding these under-the-radar players, and then fills his depth with some other 2-3 star guys. He’ll get a good recruit every once in a while though. Any program will.
Under the radar guys will set the ceiling higher, and help make a team a legitimate conference title contender.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
I think winning in college football is...
One half coaching, one quarter talent, one quarter luck… The correlation to winning programs and highly-touted recruits is selection bias. The best players want to go to the teams that are winning and a few others that just have the cache inherit in their program
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Thurmond
3 Star player, but definitely grew into a better/bigger player.
Byrd
2 Star player. I don’t know his HS history.
Chung
2 Star player, but it is likely because he barely played in 2002, and really only got any exposure in 2003. If he was in high school longer, he would have probably been highly recruited and a higher star ranking.
Ward was a walk-on, but that was due to injury and schools dropped their recruitment his senior year.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
Does anyone remember Cowherd being a normal guy when he was here in Portland
and a regular sports dude for KGW? He wasn’t half as crazy here during those years as he seems to be now…
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Cowherd... Normal?
What’s that you say???
by Duckity_Duck on Oct 19, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That's because
he was limited to a few minutes on the TV.
Woooo @ Cliff getting the start!
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 2:26 PM PDT reply actions
From UO's official athletics page:
ATTENTION, DUCK FANS! This doesn’t happen very often, but Head Coach Chip Kelly has personally requested that ALL Duck Fans wear yellow to Thursday’s game – so let’s be the loudest and BRIGHTEST fans on national television as we take on UCLA! GO DUCKS!
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 2:35 PM PDT reply actions
So awesome...
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
by JShufelt on Oct 19, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
But facebook told me to wear black and myspace told me to wear green.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Chip Kelly > Social Media.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
by JShufelt on Oct 19, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
HRD, Myspace is sooo 6th grade.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
But daisyduck told me to wear pink
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Pink??
It’s like you don’t know me at all HRD…
by daisyduck on Oct 19, 2010 6:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You are magical, Matt Daddy.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
You're the one bringing it out in the public eye
in the NUUUUDE
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
I wonder if the e-mail I just got from the Duck Store
Telling me I can “get all the gear I need for Thursday’s yellow-out at the Duck Store.” is related….
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I would put money on the Bumble Bees
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Erm, I don't know if I just hit the Z button too fast but
we’re down 3 Defensive Starters for Thursday
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
No worries
This way they get 3 weeks off between games, true with Barner too. No reason to risk injury.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
No to denegrate UCLA
But they are most likely the weakest team left on our schedule.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Harris, Heimuli/Hanna and Jordan can handle it
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
so we are down 3D?
coincidence, I think not
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
Alright folks, here's how the "pick axemen23's new name" auction works
for those of you who didn’t read the quack fix last night, after football season I will be auctioning off the naming rights to my SBnation name, with the proceeds going to charity. The process is as follows:
1. during our second bye week, I will post an open thread where you will be able to suggest new nicknames for me.
2. I will whittle away the ones that are inappropriate and not SBnation-OK. the rest will be put into a ballot thread the day after the civil war, where you will vote on your favorite. the top 5 will make the final ballot
3. The final auction will be held in the form of a 3 day open thread from january 11th-13th. Bids will be made in the comments section (example: $30 for stinkymcfartface). It is recommended that you form coalitions of sorts for the names, since that way the final price tag can be higher since it’ll be split between people.
4. The winner…wins. I won’t vote or bid, and whichever name has the highest bid, that’s what my new name will be.
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
How much do we have to bid
to get you to stop posting altogether?
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
I hear the tuition for St. Mary’s School for the Porn is remarkably low.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
A catholic school for porn is such a paradox.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not Catholic.
The St. is short for Street not Saint.
by sacduxnutz on Oct 19, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, Street Mary?
I know where she works.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
or you could just use your ban button and pay him nothing
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Oct 19, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
This would also ensure a new screen name...FO' FREE!
Sadly though, no money for charity.
My votes:
Icommenttoomuch
presstheZnow
Ihavenoideawhatimtalkingabout
i can't believe you survived on this blog --
by axemen23 on Sep 2, 2010 9:06 PM PDT
I am bidding a 3 month ban on Axmen posting
I am also willing to get a coalition together, we can all pitch in a 3 month period of time. If we get enough people to join my group we will win a new name for Axmen and will be rid of him for years.
1
Congratulations.
You have successfully redefined “hubris”.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
by benzduck on Oct 19, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Because you're assuming that people really care.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
not really
i’m assuming some people will want to stick me with a horrid nickname
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
You assume people care enough to stick you with a horrid nickname.
I personally will not vote/donate for that.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
by JShufelt on Oct 19, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
if people dont
then that’s fine. If they do, then the opportunity’s there
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
We're really not trying to be asses, but this just is not a worthwhile idea.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
you don’t want to name me snotmouthmcdickharder?
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
No
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly Dude, you're missing the point.
If you’re doing this for the real benefit of some charity, I’ll contend that you’ll receive a much larger donation if you were to sit down, write a post about why this charity is worthy and appeal to the good graces of the community on a whole.
My belief is that you are doing this as some sort of attention grab, and the charity is really an after-thought. You think we actually care so much about you, that we’re willing to overlook the obvious hubris in the idea in order to once again throw axemen into the spotlight.
What we’re saying is that isn’t the case.
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
He's getting attention though
point for axemen, I’m afraid
It's an actual cause that's dear to me
post coming tomorrow. I would have done it sooner but I’ve barely had time to check in here a few times a day due to school+college apps
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Think of Casablanca.
Peter Lorre (Ugarte): “You despise me, don’t you, Rick?”
Bogart (Rick): “If I gave you a second thought, I probably would.”
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
This is a really terrible idea, for so many reasons.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Hey guys, guess who I'm miserable of watching every week?
Say hi, but don’t be too gleeful.
http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2010/10/19/1761923/state-of-the-cal-football-program-part-iii-evaluating-andy-ludwig
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 19, 2010 4:45 PM PDT reply actions
Ludwig wasn't horrible...
but I’ll take Kelly/Helfrich over anyone in the country right now.
"Hey, can you give us a little respect?" --Chip Kelly, during an interview with Erin Andrews
I dunno
Dave and Matt Daddy seemed to be pretty happy with the development.
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 19, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Andy Puntwig is downright awful
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
I’m ecstatic knowing there is a Kevin Riley and Andy Ludwig combination out there ready to redefine sucktitude on any given Saturday.
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
We've had our share of bad assistants. Hard to be gleeful.
Best upgrade in history was Kelly for Crowton. LSU is still in denial about that one.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
I haven’t been able to watch that much Cal football, so I can’t comment on what he’s done. But what Jared posted on CGB a while ago was so true.
Here’s that post.
You may want to think about the two years, and then reflect on that post.
Again, I haven’t seen Cal play much the last couple of years, so that post may be wildly off compared to what we experienced.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
We seem to run a lot of pre-snap audibles. We do a lot more shotgun. And we have all sorts of plays. We don’t do much with any of it.
But the three-and-out symptom is definitely there.
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 19, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, grammar nazis that are even more grammar-wise than myself:
In ending a sentence with a title of a speech in quotation marks, do I place the ending period inside the quotations or outside. Such as…
Chip Kelly’s speech to the team was entitled “Win the Day.”
or
Chip Kelly’s speech to the team was entitled “Win the Day”.
Delete if necessary, but Google doesn’t give me a clear answer, and surely someone here knows.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 4:58 PM PDT reply actions
Also if you have an in-text citation
That goes inside the period (and quotation mark) too.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Lynne Truss is turning over in her grave (or would be, if she were dead).
Page 152 -155 are relevant. All text below direct quotes.
There is, too, a gulf between American usage and our own, with Americans always using double quotation marks and American grammarians insisting that, if a sentence ends with a phrase in inverted commas, all the terminal punctuation for the sentence must come tidily inside the speech marks, even when this doesn’t seem to make sense.
….
a. When a piece of dialogue is attributed at its end, conclude it with a comma inside the inverted commas.
e.g. “You are out of your senses, Lord Fellamar,” gasped Sophia.
b. When the dialogue is attributed at the start, conclude with a full stop inside the inverted commas.
e.g. Lord Fellamar replied, “Love has so totally….for my actions.”
1. When the dialogue stands on its own, the full stop comes inside the inverted commas.
2. When only a fragment of speech is being quoted, put punctuation outside the inverted commas.
3. When the quotation is a question or exclamation, the terminal marks come inside the inverted commas.
4. But when the question is posed by the sentence rather than by the speaker, logic demands that the question
mark goes outside the inverted commas.
5. Where the quoted speech is a full sentence requiring a full stop (or other terminal mark) of its own, and
coincidentally comes at the end of the containing sentence, the mark inside the inverted commas serves
for both.
The basic rule is straightforward and logical:
when the punctuation relates to the quoted words it goes inside the inverted commas; when it relates to the sentence, it goes outside. Unless, of course, you are in America.
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
In case that didn't make it crystal clear
It should be:
Chip Kelly’s speech to the team was entitled "Win the Day."
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
But only if "Win the Day" is a direct quote
and TQA is saying that this is the title of the speech, not a direct quote.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Not that I can see. It does not matter whether it's a direct quote or a title.
In both cases, it’s content that is being legitimately placed in quotation marks.
And in the American grammar environment, the period would go inside the quotation marks.
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
BINGO
gamedaytribe is the winner.
The period and comma always go inside the quotes.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
So you're one of the
American grammarians insisting that, if a sentence ends with a phrase in inverted commas, all the terminal punctuation for the sentence must come tidily inside the speech marks, even when this doesn’t seem to make sense.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
From the Blue Book of Grammar
Rule 2. The placement of question marks with quotes follows logic. If a question is in quotation marks, the question mark should be placed inside the quotation marks.
Examples:
She asked, “Will you still be my friend?”
Do you agree with the saying, “All’s fair in love and war”?
Here the question is outside the quote.
NOTE: Only one ending punctuation mark is used with quotation marks. Also, the stronger punctuation mark wins. Therefore, no period after war is used.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
And
Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, even inside single quotes.
Examples:
The sign changed from “Walk,” to “Don’t Walk,” to “Walk” again within 30 seconds.
She said, “Hurry up.”
She said, “He said, ‘Hurry up.’”
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Why the fuck would it be different for question marks?
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions
From grammar.about.com
2. Titles
Use double quotation marks to enclose the titles of songs, short stories, essays, poems, and articles:
Softly, almost tenderly, Legree recited the lyrics to the song “She Made Toothpicks out of the Timber of My Heart.”
The first draft of my favorite E. B. White essay, “Once More to the Lake,” was a letter that White wrote to his brother a week after their mother’s death.
Do not put quotation marks around the titles of books, newspapers, or magazines; instead, italicize or underline those titles.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Just so we're all clear these are both correct:
Tom Jones kicks ass, I mean, just listen to “What’s New, Pussycat”?
Barry Manilow kicks ass, I mean, just listen to “Copacabana.”
Nice logic.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
To sum up:
Fuck grammarians. I’m gladder I was a biochemistry major after this subthread.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
And now, it's time to go take my Ritalin.
This amusing display of HRD’s multiple personality disorder brought to you by HRD’s #4, $7, and #12.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
You were having quite the debate there. I’m glad nobody interrupted yourself.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
This way
I’m always at least half right!
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. I’m glad you got it right, but that HoodRiverDuck guy was an ass sometimes, huh?
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
He's completely unreasonable half the time.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Which one?
One day, my dogs will stop barking outside.
by Bill Musgrave on Oct 20, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you’re misreading the intention of the last sentence.
Unless, of course, you are in America and are therefore a sadly ignorant colonial, scratching out your meager thoughts on the bark of a swamp tree using a squirrel rib as a stylus (the attached body having been previously consumed at supper).
actually, skywaker is right.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
So the actually intelligent, educational subthreads you skip through but "lol bill musgrave you're older than dirt" are valuable?
Ça plane pour moi.
by qrsouther on Oct 19, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't log on to ATQ to learn grammar
and even so, how long was that thread? 75 comments?
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Uh, so yeah, thanks for everyone's help.
Unfortunately, while on the last paragraph of the essay, my laptop’s battery died without warning, and a backup copy of the essay was not saved, so I had to re-type the whole thing, so I probably rushed through it as best as I could and forgot all of this wonderful advice.
Going to go pass out now. Bye.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Excuse me, not re-type, but re-write.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
As in, I didn't have another copy of it so I had to redo it.
I think I’m just sleep typing at this point. Until we meet again, ATQ
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
this is why you save frequently
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
This
Periods are placed inside the quotation marks when they contain a direct quotation or fragment of. But this could be a generally disregarded rule these days.
Thanks. I probably wouldn't have asked, but it's in a thesis so it's fairly important.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
WRONG
periods and commas ALWAYS go inside closing quotes
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Not buying it.
If I didn’t already pack my Borzoi in a moving box, I’m confident I could prove it.
believe me
when I was writing my masters’ thesis, UO was pretty damn adament about it.
Besides, take a close look at ANYTHING you read.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
It really comes down to who's grading the paper
It’s one of those rules that could be correct either way, depending on who’s making the call. But because I went through Grammar for Journalists under the naziest grammarian ever, I’m sticking by ‘outside’.
Unless you're writing about a film...
or television show. The best show on television right now is “Mad Men”.
Inside is only for direct quotes. But like all things grammar I think it varies depending on who you ask.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Nevermind...
I’m dead wrong about that. Woops.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Woo, we've got 2 for outside the quotes and 3 for inside! Clairification!
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely false.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
So now we're at a dead heat.
I think I’ll just ask the teacher before a subthread war breaks out. All of you are correct, now go in peace.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Is "Win the Day" the title of something...
or a quote? If it’s the title of something then the punctuation goes on the outside. Of course it looks like I’m way late to this, so that may have already been established.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
It's not really a speech. Just a theoretical title.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn't matter
because I’m wrong. I just looked up my theory and it is incorrect. Mea Culpa.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Dave and the others are right...
it’s always inside the quotation marks…no matter what. Go read any review on Roger Ebert’s site. He punctuates inside the quotation marks he uses for titles of movies…unless that movie appears in parenthesis, then the punctuation goes outside of the parenthesis.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Roger Ebert? Why on earth would you use him?
Fine if you’re writing a letter to your mom, or a post on a blog. Not for a formal college essay, one would hope.
Speaking as a former GA, if you are a student, you should be using something authoritative as your source in any case.
This has become really imperative given the flood of ineptness on the part of professional bloggers, writers, authors, publishers, editors, proof-readers and their like, forget about those who don’t make their living from writing. I see mistakes in bestsellers, mistakes in newspaper columns, mistakes online all the time. It’s depressing.
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I used him because I was referring to film/television...
a lot of film critics put the film in quotes; however, I was wrong as Ebert puts the punctuation inside the quotes when he writes the title of a movie. That’s why I chose Ebert. Besides he IS a Pulitzer Prize winner — in fact he’s the only film critic to win the award. It’s not like he’s some hack just talking about film.
Also what one sees as a mistake could be the author’s intent. An error is different than what one could perceive as a mistake. Salman Rushdie — arguably the most ingenious writer of the 20th century — uses all kinds of “mistakes” in his writing…but he’s doing it with a purpose. Great authors flub the rules all the time.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Oh, and I've used Ebert as an authoritative source
The man is the most famous film critic; the most published; the most renown…I’d say he’s an authority. His “Great Movies” essays are phenomenal reads, and when I was writing papers for film courses in college I used Ebert a lot as a source, and I never ran across any problems from my profs for using him.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
?
I was talking about grammar. And as a student, you’re better off being scrupulously correct and formal in your writing, especially things like a thesis. Normally we’d recommend using conventional reference sources.
Most professors or admissions officials tend to be able to distinguish between shaky writing and the Salman Rushdie’s of the world. Or at any rate, will not give you the benefit of the doubt unless they know you well.
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
We may be talking about different contexts
I was talking about where you would look up a grammar question…
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup...
I think the context was getting muddled in all of the nested posting. We were definitely talking about two different things. Hehe.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
434 comments in a Tuesday blog
with no major earth-shattering events occurring. That’s got to be some kind of record, one would think….
by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Either is acceptable, you can find appropriate sets of rules backing up either usage. From the Usage Laws You Must Use or Die (Wikpedia)
With regard to quotation marks adjacent to periods and commas, there are two styles of punctuation in widespread use. While these two styles are most commonly referred to as American and British (and some style sheets provide no other name), some American writers and organizations use the British style and vice versa. Both systems have the same rules regarding question marks, exclamation points, colons and semicolons. They differ on the treatment of periods and commas.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Usage Laws You Must Use or Die?
I much prefer Fake AP Stylebook.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
You need to get more grammar nazi
All the Nazis I know use ULYMUOD.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Good stuff!
Articles on autism should emphasize that while the causes are unclear they’re probably whatever a celebrity mom claims them to be.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's one of my personal favorites. Also:
“Stories about women working in traditionally male fields should emphasize their hotness.”
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
On the other hand,
if the sentence concerns a Chip Kelly speech, then you wouldn’t use quotes at all. Speeches of great significance are always italicized, e.g. Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address. And if it’s a Chip Kelly speech, it is obviously of great significance.
One is a speech by Jonathan Edwards, one is the famous Patrick Henry speech where he wants liberty or death. Or something.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Too bad that speech was extremely different in reality. Apparently he talked a lot less about God being on our side and whatnot and used a lot more, ahem, colorful nicknames for the British.
Kenjon Barner is an angel sent from heaven to make my heart happy.
by lovemyducks81 on Oct 19, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, seems more fun.
It was certainly effective.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, everybody seems to agree about the last line and the “To Arms!” response. Apparently the guy who actually wrote it down years after the fact thought the sanitized version reflected better on Henry. I’d like to see the real version, though.
Kenjon Barner is an angel sent from heaven to make my heart happy.
by lovemyducks81 on Oct 19, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
we really need to find better things to do on an extended football break
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
And why, pray tell? I think it’s actually a mark of character and intelligence that our football threads get hijacked by history, grammar, and Shakespeare. Can’t see the same thing happening on OBNUG…
Kenjon Barner is an angel sent from heaven to make my heart happy.
by lovemyducks81 on Oct 19, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You lost me at “intelligence+OBNUG”
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Kind of the point, smart guy. Don’t you have a thread to go troll somewhere?
Kenjon Barner is an angel sent from heaven to make my heart happy.
by lovemyducks81 on Oct 19, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
No need for anger. Just think happy, Kenjony thoughts.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
That was definitely not anger. A touch of exasperation, perhaps, but not anger. And all Kenjony thoughts are happy. Except the whole “will he ever walk again?” 10 minutes a couple weeks ago. So. Not. Awesome.
Kenjon Barner is an angel sent from heaven to make my heart happy.
by lovemyducks81 on Oct 19, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Ricky apparently called our offense a "gimick"
Chip angrily denied this on Clown’s show today.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Neuweasel?
The guy who’s running the “pistol”?
canzono link with chip: http://www.955thegame.com/pages/6031110.php
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
Jimmy seems to be very liberal in his use of "perfect".
Tell me, what “perfect” quarterback gets picked off twice in one game against the Duck D? Man alive, that Oregon defense is AWFUL, right?
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Jimmy seems to be very liberal in his use of "perfect."
Have you learned NOTHING?!?
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.
That may or may not have been, you know, "intentional".
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s a question: Who is the unsung hero (the guy who doesn’t get much if any press but makes a big difference) of our team through 1/2 the season?
A) His name is David Paulson
B) Anthony Gildon
C) Boseko Lokombo
D) Jackson Rice
E) Other (explain below)
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Another famous guest will be showing up at the game Thursday night, dressed ALL in yellow!
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
Man, early estimates are that 'Bama is going to pack 25,000-30,000 fans into Neyland on Saturday.
Incredible.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 8:32 PM PDT reply actions
yo should go to that game
probably worth seeing Ingram+Richardson in person.
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
I am going
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Should be in for a treat then
I’m envious. Though not envious enough to trade tickets :P
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Here we go again!
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 19, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Dont wear it.
If I go to a Oregon/UCLA game, I dont expect to see any people wearing Tennessee gear. It makes no sense.
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If they're a tennessee fan
they should wear tennessee gear if they wish
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Sure it's puzzling
but it doesn’t mean I haven’t and won’t see many people @ autzen wearing college gear thats not Oregon or the visiting team
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Exactly. I’m with you on this one, Axe. I’m an Oregon fan. I’m going to let people know about it, especially if I’m at a college sporting event.
Don’t be a dick and taunt anybody. Root for a good football game. But let everybody know you’re a Duck fan. I don’t think there’s anything puzzling about that.
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I'll be wearing Oregon gear
to the Minnesota Iowa game, since I won’t be in Eugene for the Arizona game.
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
I guess I just wouldn't do it. I would feel stupid.
It’d be like wearing a suit and tie to a Burger King. Yeah, you’re going out for a meal, but it’s just not the right venue. I say this when I see those Cougar fans who go to each Gameday location and wave that huge WSU flag. Just out of place and irrelevant.
It’s one thing to wear a Duck hat to keep your head warm, but going to the lengths of getting ducked out for a game between two teams with no relation to the Ducks will just draw a bunch of puzzled looks from people. I would give the same look if I saw a guy in head-to-toe Georgia Bulldogs gear tomorrow.
Do what makes you happy, just realize that you will get looks and probably look pretty silly.
Ça plane pour moi.
I never said I was considering decking out in Oregon gear. I wouldn't do that.
It’s just tough for me not to show some pride for my team (especially in our current situation). I’ll probably just me neutral and wear an Oregon hat or something. I’m not there to rub 48-13 in anyone’s face. I’m there to see a great rivalry and a college football game. I wouldn’t want to come off that way. I’ll be cheering for the Vols, too.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 20, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, exactly
wear something green+yellow as a subtle nod to #1, and wear your orange stuff to your hearts content.
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
And I think those people are douches.
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If they don't go looking for trouble
are they really being douches?
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
They’re looking for trouble by wearing insignia of a team that has no place at that game, especially in the Oregon-Tennessee case. All you’re saying by wearing Duck stuff is, “LOLZ we beat you guys start some shit with me.” If you have no rooting interesting, just don’t wear team colors.
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I just don’t get that mindset, at all.
I understand what you are saying, but I just can’t empathize with that mindset.
If you’re a Duck, c’est la vie.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
You can be a Duck and not wear Duck stuff to a game that has nothing to do with the Ducks. Wearing Duck gear to a Tennessee game is akin to wearing Boise State gear to Thursday’s Oregon-UCLA game, albeit not as extreme. And if Oregon and Tennessee hadn’t have played, it’d just be silly.
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Man, I just don’t agree with this at all. I can maybe see an argument for not doing it against a team you just played or against a bitter rival. But, against two random teams where the only reason I am going is because I enjoy football and seeing it in person? I see absolutely no problem with it. Maybe it’s being in Chicago where I only get to see a Duck game in person every couple years or so, but I always wear an Oregon hat or sweatshirt when I go to some random game out here.
by ntrebon on Oct 20, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's just a shirt, guys.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Again, I understand what you’re saying, but my seats are about 8 seats away from a guy that wears his Hawaii jersey to every game. I’ve seen random “other team” attire from time to time. I’m sure they make up less than 1% of the attendance, but the guy cheers on the ducks, and he appears to be a good guy. I don’t view him as being silly. It’s just a jersey.
Hell, if they are loud and cheer on the ducks, I don’t particularly care what they wear. I’d rather be next to them than some belligerent drunk fans, or a passionless old man that yells at you for standing up when everyone else in the section is standing up too.
Sometimes people can just be a football fan, and they like going to a game.
What if you went to… let’s say… Akron vs. Middle Tennessee game? Would you really not wear a duck hat? You hold more allegiance to them than either Akron or Middle Tennessee.
I would be expected to get crap from people if I wore attire that wasn’t aligned with the home team, but that wouldn’t make me an asshole. It’s their problem.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
Sure, I hold allegiance to the Ducks, but they aren’t playing in that game.
Ultimately, the original argument was whether TQA8 should wear Duck stuff to a Tennessee game. And I think he’d be doing it more as an antagonist than anything else. So I’m against it. And personally, I’m not gonna wear Duck stuff to a game where the Ducks aren’t involved. I wear Cal stuff to Cal games because they’re my rooting interest, despite having more of an allegiance to Oregon.
And finally, if I’m at Akron-MTSU, what the fuck has my life become?
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It could be a funny game to watch. Like a scheduled train wreck.
If someone is going to a game to be a non-vistor antagonist, then I would not encourage them. But that isn’t because of what they are wearing, but what their intention is. There’s a difference between being decked out in duck gear and wearing just a hat.
Also, with TQA8’s – reputation on other blogs – well – let’s just say I would personally have assumptions on intent.
If I lived in Knoxville, and I didn’t have anything Tennessee/visiting team, I would have no remorse about wearing an Oregon hat in Neyland, but I would also probably be rooting for the Vols. Wearing an Oregon hat and rooting for the opposing team would be a douchbag move.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
That was my next point, that there’s a difference between wearing a sweatshirt or a hat, and being decked out head to toe.
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I wouldn't be an ass about it.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 20, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I went to Akron-MTSU
Back in 1992 when it was called Kansas @ Oregon State (my Mom being a Jayhawk). It was horrendous.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I wear Duck gear to Lewis and Clark games all the time
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To those going to the ATQ tailgate thursday:
what are your favorite kind of chips? I’ll bring a bag or two of whatever people request
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Fully agree.
Thought they’d be gross or bland or just meh, but they’re delicious. And now I want some.
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by lovemyducks81 on Oct 19, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
ooh i know where to get those too
dammit quinn now I’m hungry! Those are outstanding.
on a side note, what’s your plan for Thursday?
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Oh Jeez
@Supwitchugirl Who thinks we should get I Love My Ducks tramp-stamps?
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
I get excited about the huge number of new comments
…and find 200 new posts about proper quotation mark and period placement.
..The fuck?
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I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
We hold ourselves only to the highest of standards.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
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