Quack Fix: USC & UCLA to get paid, 3 defensive "starters" questionable, & Cliff Harris the conformist?
One more day of waiting, and then it's time for yellow-out at Autzen...in 3D! In the meantime, here's your Wednesday Morning Quack Fix:
- In case you hadn't heard, USC and UCLA are getting a sweetheart payout deal to finish out the remaining term of the Pac-10's TV contracts in order to pave the way for equal revenue sharing for the conference's next agreement. I'm not going to get into the specifics, since A) I don't know enough and B) it was discussed at length in the comments of yesterday's Quack Fix. But if you're looking for a pretty good summary of all the events, check out Brian Floyd's post on CougCenter.
- John Hunt reported that the Ducks may be without three "starters" for Thursday night's game. Zac Clark (groin), Terrell Turner (toe), and Anthony Gildon (ankle) were all in uniform at yesterday's practice, but Hunt doesn't expect them to play. Kenjon Barner (concussion) is also expected to sit out this week's game. For more info, as well as a few highlights from Chip Kelly's press conference yesterday, check out Rob Moseley's Tuesday practice notes. Moseley also has a nice round-up of Oregon's national statistical standing.
- Hunt also has a feature on the audacious Cliff Harris. You have to love Harris's confidence, but it sounds like his biggest weakness right now is conforming to the Ducks' system. I'm sure it's something that will come with maturity and experience, but given how talented he is, my guess is the system may need to conform to him a bit too.
- Speaking of Oregon defensive backs, Aaron Fentress has a great feature on former Oregon standout Pat Chung. The former second-round pick for the New England Patriots is having a fantastic sophomore year in the NFL, including a breakout Monday Night Football game earlier this year in which he blocked a punt, a field goal and returned an interception for a touchdown. He's also posted double-digit tackles twice this season.
- The venerable (or is it venereal) John Canzano interviewed several Ducks players and coaches yesterday, including Kelly and Spencer Paysinger.
- And finally, the Oregon men's golf team finished seventh at the Alister Mackenzie Invitational, hosted by Cal, its best showing so far this fall.
As always, leave any relevant links or comments below.
GO DUCKS!
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It feels like it’s been a month since the Washington State game. I’m ready for Thursday to be here already.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 20, 2010 8:01 AM PDT reply actions
Agreed
I’m so ready for Oregon football.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The other third is covered by Cliff Harris.
Addicted to Quack
But I've been SO ENTERTAINED
with talking about Oscars and grammar. Wait, what, you say there’s a game tomorrow?
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Sweet!
I hope Cliff Harris spells ‘Q-U-I-Z’ on a triple word score tile.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
“I’m Cliff Harris, and I’m here to spell shit down. Or across, depending on which gets me more points.”
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Oct 20, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
More points for Q-U-I-Z-Z-Z
go to sleep now
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day
It has been a month since we've been at Autzen. I can't wait to be home.
I credit my urine for the victory.
I didn’t get to see the WSU game til a couple days later, so it’s like triply-long for me. I can’t wait to see some real Duck football again.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I...wait, what?
LSU Football: See the cat? See the cradle?
by AllSaintsDay on Oct 20, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, each day I wake up and think, “This has to be the day, right? No? Damn.” And there’s still one more day left. AARRGH! I need my Ducks!
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Same thing
Happened to me this morning. I didn’t even see the Wazzu game, so I haven’t seem them play since I went to the Stanford game. BRING IT ON!!
by IslanderDuck on Oct 20, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't see this posted anywhere
but that thread yesterday was so epic, I may have missed it. Apologies if it’s a repeat. It’s a nice little NY Times article about our Duck’s rise to prominence.
Thanks for the link!
I love the quote from Asper:
I went ‘Wooo!’ and I said ‘Hey honey, we’re No. 1!’ and she went ‘Wooo!’… It was exciting for the school to be ranked No. 1 for the first time ever," he said. "After that it was ‘OK, I’ve got practice tomorrow and I gotta start watching UCLA film and getting ready to go.’
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
When I saw the headline for today's post...
I immediately thought: “How much of that are the players from U$C and fUCLA going to get out of that?”
"Hey, can you give us a little respect?" --Chip Kelly, during an interview with Erin Andrews
Venereal?
Isn’t that something that you don’t want to have, but really enjoy getting?
Not the way I’d describe Canzano.
She's a Cougar; he's a Duck.
Both agree: The Huskies Suck.
Piece on Chip Kelly and the Ducks turnaround from Fox Sports...
Yet here we are, several months and six wins later. The Ducks are No. 1 in the Associated Press poll. Kelly is a genius, hailed universally so.
Didn’t we all know he was a genius?
Good gravy, it's Clownzano's cousin
But we’ll be watching its off-field record, too. We’ll see if this is a new program.
Or we’ll see if it’s the same old, same old, that just happened to start 6-0.
same old team that's gone 34-10 over the last 3.5 seasons?
Because last time I checked, a 77% winning percentage isn’t something to scoff at. And three of those losses were with Dixon hurt. Could that easily be 37-7.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Seriously. That article was poorly-researched, just plain stupid, and, frankly, offensive. I wish “journalists” would actually look into events they’re writing about (like, say, taking that extra five minutes to look up LaMichael’s court records and finding out what ACTUALLY happened) rather than just repeating the sensationalist crap their colleagues have spewed. Sigh.
Kenjon Barner is an angel sent from heaven to make my heart happy.
by lovemyducks81 on Oct 20, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
We sure as hell didn't know after Boise last year.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Hunt's vote
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but did people see that John Hunt of The Oregonian, the state’s only AP poll voter, voted Boise State #1 over Oregon?
I don’t expect everyone to have this reaction, but I have already canceled my subscription to the paper as of Monday.
Most of us canceled our Oregonian subscriptions a long time ago
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Yes, but that's not a newspaper.
One day, my dogs will stop barking outside.
by Bill Musgrave on Oct 20, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He does that
Bending over backwards to prove he’s not a homer.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
John Hunt (blechhh, uggghh, eyewww, gahh)
I can’t call him what I want to because I’ll get banned this time for sure. But he’s all that. He’s consistently been in the bottom third of Oregon voter placement. He escapes that this week, only on account of some other extreme holdouts (our good friend, Jon Wlimabean has us at #4). The state of Oregon has been poorly served by its local beat writers (the wonderful folks at the Register-Guard being the sparkling, but sadly, non-voting exceptions). And that’s local as in not just Oregon but the broader Pac 10. Wlimabean, of course, upchucks on all the Pac 10 schools.
by gamedaytribe on Oct 20, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Just saw the ESPN commercial for our game tomorrow
says “LaHeisman lives here”
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Ducks Sports Bar in Anaheim?
Okay fellow ATQ bloggers. Who in enemy territory can tell me where I might root for my #1 and not get mugged? Will be in Anaheim for my son’s college graduation on the next day.
College--the best nine years of my life
Thanks
found a lead in OC, too
College--the best nine years of my life
by AZDeadHeadDuck on Oct 20, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
alumni assoc. watch party at
The OC Sports Grill
450 N. State College Blvd.
Orange, CA 92868
714-935-0300
Contact: Hunter Kaplan at huntstheduck@earthlink.net
THANKS
Just googled that, me and my two (adult) kids will be there!
College--the best nine years of my life
by AZDeadHeadDuck on Oct 20, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I live in Anaheim but don’t usually go to the watch parties. I’m pretty sure your comment was tongue in cheek, but trust me, you are in no danger of getting mugged by UCLA fans. Especially not in Anaheim.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I doubt it. I could probably get tickets cheap, but it’s not ideal for a number of reasons – the main one being that it’s kind of a full day event, and it’s tough to leave the wife home with our three young boys on a Saturday when she spends all week with them.
I have several friends in the area who graduated from USC and we usually get together and barbecue and drink beers and watch on someone’s big screen. Not as fun as going to the game, but a nice alternative, and it keeps everybody happier.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Thats fair
I live 10 min from the stadium and I am sure not going. But I’m 24 so my excuse is that I have some sweet ass Halloween parties to go to. I was just wondering what its like for a Duck fan at the Mausoleum.
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by trumpetduck on Oct 20, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Not too bad. I’ve only been when I got tickets from an alumnus, so it’s not like I was in the heart of the more passionate fans. And it helped that USC kicked the crud out of us (in terms of my getting heckled, not my enjoyment). UCLA fans are definitely more laid back, but you still shouldn’t have any problems.
Living around there, you know what parts of the area outside the stadium to avoid, but once you’re in you should be fine.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Actually
Made the mistake of going to a Sports Bar in Tucson once for a UofA/UofO game once and regretted it. I musta been worried about all three of those UCLA fans, huh?
College--the best nine years of my life
by AZDeadHeadDuck on Oct 20, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s not so much that there won’t be UCLA fans around – there will be – but they tend to be pretty friendly. You can usually engage in an informed, reasonable discussion with UCLA fans about college football.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Well then who the hell runs Bruins Nation?
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by trumpetduck on Oct 20, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Cool, Thanks.
College--the best nine years of my life
by AZDeadHeadDuck on Oct 20, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
An early edition of this week's Pac-10 lines
OSU and USC are off
As always, favored team on left, home team in caps. All games on Saturday unless otherwise Indicated.
Thursday-OREGON (-24) vs. UCLA. O/U: 61.5
ARIZONA (-6.5) vs. Washington. O/U: 54
CALIFORNIA (-3.5) vs. Arizona State. O/U: 53
STANFORD (-35) vs. Washington St.. O/U: N/A
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I am confused, both Oregon and UCLA are in all caps. Where is the game?
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by trumpetduck on Oct 20, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
UCLA is always capitalized
As is USC, thanks to the fact that is the proper way to spell their name.
And yes my sarcasm detector is going off.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I'll take the under on the Arizona game
and the over on the Oregon game.
I’ll also take WSU to cover.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The other third is covered by Cliff Harris.
Addicted to Quack
Thanks for leading me to victory Matt
I’ll be bodogging the opposite of your picks, of course.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course
because you’re obviously better at picking games than me
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The other third is covered by Cliff Harris.
Addicted to Quack
I stand firmly by my mediocrity.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, one for one. Oregon v Ucla 73 (Over)
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The other third is covered by Cliff Harris.
Addicted to Quack
I woukld go under too.
UA wont be as explosive without Foles as they usually. Who is going to throw passes to the scariest receiver in the Pac-10 (Juron Criner)?
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Rahim Moore, you're no John Boyett!
That Thursday team must be pretty tough... kinda like BYE
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day
From the Cliff article
How great is this line:
"Conform, yeah, I gotta keep conforming,‘’ Harris said dutifully. "I’m getting there, but I’m not going to be there by tomorrow.’’
I love that attitude, even if he is not matured yet, you can tell he will be soon.
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I just cringe at the word “conform.” Not because it’s necessarily a bad thing that Alliotti wants him to do, but just because what college kid EVER wants to conform to anything set down by an authority figure?
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Conforming is important on a football team.
If one defensive player isn’t doing his job that is called for in that particular scheme, and he’s just out there trying to make a spectacular play, then he puts the whole team at risk of giving up six. As fans, we all love the spectacular plays, but it’s the consistent and unspectacular plays that win football games.
"Hey, can you give us a little respect?" --Chip Kelly, during an interview with Erin Andrews
by M. Fletcher on Oct 20, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Like I said, I think what Alliotti wants him to do is fine, but generally the word “conform” has connotations that rub certain people the wrong way – in particular college age kids. Absolutely Harris needs to learn to be a team player ahead of going for individual glory. I just know of plenty of people that age (including myself back then) who would tune someone out as soon as they drop the c-word.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Hey everyone! I found a picture of Gorby.

I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you saying that Gorby is Timothy Leary!!?? (or whoever this guy is)
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Rahim Moore, you're no John Boyett!
Tune in, turn on, drop out, maaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
You guessed right!
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Once again, I have no idea who that is. (Consults Wikipedia) The funny thing is, I’ve never touched an illegal drug in my life, despite the four years in Eugene.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Why not?
That’s obviously a massive mistake you are making.
Not really my thing. I know it’s not typical, and I’m fine with that. I had a blast in college and wouldn’t do things differently at all.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I was just riffing on your nonconformity
Sr. Leary being one of the original American nonconformists. In addition to probably having his brain completely addled from too much LSD.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
SI Mid Season All Americans
1st team includes:
LMJ, Jordan Holmes and Cliff
2nd Team includes:
Bair and Cliff
You never guess which Cliff is on the second team.
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He plays for the fuskies. They bring him in on 4th and 20.
by sacduxnutz on Oct 20, 2010 11:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I love how all of these experts project Cliff Harris into all-nation type of teams,
When in reality he hasn’t even technically started a game yet. Talk about a playmaker!
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Rahim Moore, you're no John Boyett!
Jimmy Cliff?
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.
Daisy wins.
Jimmy? by daisyduck on Oct 20, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Yeah…but she’s a girl.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.
by Takimoto on Oct 20, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously Daisy, “little man” and “twerp” don’t work. Just cal him an asshole.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The other third is covered by Cliff Harris.
Addicted to Quack
Now I am going to sound like a girl
but I don’t like to call people bad names. Weird, I know, considering I have no problem insulting them in countless other ways.
Also
I have no problem with other people calling each other bad names, so could you call him an asshole for me Matt Daddy?
no problem
Tako,
You’re and asshole.
-Daisy
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The other third is covered by Cliff Harris.
Addicted to Quack
I see what you did there.
Girls have bad grammar. Nice one.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.
I see what you did there.
Girls have bad grammar. Nice one.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.
I see what you did there
Boys have bad replying skills
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Wait, you're critiquing MY bad grammar
Mr. I don’t edit my own posts, I’m an Author?
Man, you’re an asshole.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The other third is covered by Cliff Harris.
Addicted to Quack
I thought HRD's avatar was an asshole
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Greendale Community College’s flag.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Pol Pot
Are we just listing off assholes?
One day, my dogs will stop barking outside.
by Bill Musgrave on Oct 21, 2010 5:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I noticed it was 'girl-slap'
and not the more obviously descriptive BITCH-SLAP. (all caps intended)
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I put a lot of thought into it actually.
I almost said bitch-slap, but there was both my discomfort with bad-name calling, AND the fact that he called me a girl, and I thought ‘girl-slap’ was a nice play on that. I put this much thought into all (okay, none) of my posts actually. Thanks for noticing!
ATQ's #1 Matt Daddy fan
Nice! Bonus points for the Cosby reference. Hopefully Theo isn’t getting in trouble.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I thought the Cosby Show was so cool when I was a kid
then I watched it as a grown up and realize just how over the top cheesy it really was.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
it still cracks me up.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Jeff, won't you Maehl me a touchdown?
I want one.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 20, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
So, I'm coaching my high school class' powerpuff team next week.
I’m definitely teaching them the no huddle zone read spread by then.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 20, 2010 3:21 PM PDT reply actions
It’s a good thing there are only 20 plays in the playbook.
/Easterbrook’d
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I'm seriously got a female version of LMJ to utilize.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 20, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously.
My gameplan is going to be to hand it off to her on every play.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 20, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Washington would only use 4 of them
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Oct 20, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Insert inappropriate spread joke here.
OMG THEY’RE TEENAGERS
/washeseyeswithboricacid
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 20, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey all you spry older gentlemen
Go hit on the womens basketball team tomorrow at 4:30 at PK Park. They’ll be there signing autographs before the UCLA game
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
I wish I had Phil Knight money.
I want to go buy a 3D TV just for tomorrow’s game.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 20, 2010 7:45 PM PDT reply actions
Just go to Best Buy
and demo a TV for 3 hours
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
I doubt Best Buy will still be open after 10.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 20, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw the UCLA equipment truck today on I-105. I gotta say that got me fired up.
I feel like I should say something smart.
I bet their equipment truck wasn't as sweet as ours.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 20, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you mean
UCLA equipmant U-Haul
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
As soon as you passed the truck, you were banned by Bruins Nation.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Oct 20, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
didnt see this linked above. from Chad Millman’s ESPN gambling blog:
Oregon vs. Oklahoma
Scooch: Oregon minus-4.5 over Oklahoma
“Oregon is much more explosive than Oklahoma and more experienced, too. Next year was really supposed to be Oklahoma’s year. The Sooners are still a little young and mistake prone, struggling with Air Force, Utah St. and Cincy. They are definitely getting better each week, but Oregon is already there.”
Sal: Oregon minus-6 over Oklahoma
“The books would likely open Oregon minus-4 (he was close) and I think they would get equal action on this game. Squares taking points with the Sooners while the sharps betting on Oregon. Oklahoma is overrated and Oregon is clearly better. I had some doubts about how good Oregon would fair against top level competition but that issue was put to bed when it beat Stanford in a very impressive performance. While Oregon’s D isn’t as good as Boise’s it’s good enough to keep Oklahoma from scoring a lot of points. And the offense would slice up Oklahoma’s D, just like it did to Stanford. It is miles ahead of Oklahoma defensively.
This would be another national title game blowout. Thankfully for fans of college football Oklahoma’s flaws will likely be exposed in one of their upcoming games against Missouri, Texas A&M, Baylor or Oklahoma State. Then we can start breaking down a real national championship game.”
AccuScore report
The guys from Accuscore ran their sims 10,000 times for each of these games. Since their formula is slightly different than the BCS, one of their stat geeks, Zach, asked me to include this explanation:
“Unlike the BCS formula, AccuScore factors in all player data, which means we account for margin of victory and potentially running up the score. This creates more gaudy stats for Boise State and Oregon who have multiple blowout wins, and a more realistic stat line for Oklahoma who won what can be perceived as close games vs. Utah State, Air Force and Cincinnati.
The best basis for ranking these teams would be how they played against one another. Here are our rankings: 1. Oregon, 2. Boise State, 3. Oklahoma."
http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/blog?name=millman_chad&id=5706220
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

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