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Uneven Oregon defense needs to step up against UCLA

The pursuit and tenacity of the Oregon defense is unmatched, but mistakes have led to some big plays for opposing offenses.

Coming into this season, there was a lot of buzz around the Oregon defense, and that continued through 3 games into the season, as the Ducks shut out two opponents and led the nation in total defense.

But since then the Oregon defense has seemingly taken a half step backwards. They gave up 597 yards to Arizona State (while forcing 7 turnovers), they gave up 31 points in one half to Stanford (though none in the second half), and they allowed Washington State to move the ball far more than any fan would have liked (though they held WSU to 4.4 yards per play).

While this has caused a bit of anguish amongst Duck fans, I'm not yet all that concerned. This is the fastest and deepest defense that Oregon has ever put on the field, and have shown what they can do when they play focused football, holding opposing teams to 13 points in the second half this season.

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Unfortunately, they haven't always played up to that level. Confusion, misalignment, and missed tackles have led to some disconcerting plays. Ted Miller spoke to Nick Aliotti last week, and our defensive coordinator had this to say on the Ducks defensive performance overall this season: 

I continue to love the way our kids are running to the ball and flying around and finishing plays. I'm loving their effort. I'm loving the camaraderie. Just the way they're handling themselves. They are fun to go to work with. They care about the game and that makes it fun. I'm not unhappy with a lot of things. The thing I most unhappy with is we, collectively, give up too many plays that, with all due respect, sometimes our opponents don't earn. We just make a mistake here or a mistake there. If you were talking about tennis it would be an unforced error. I think we're smarter than that and should be beyond that.

I think this is a spot on assessment. Unforced errors have simply killed the Ducks this year. From poor alignments against Tennessee, to failing to recognize motion against Arizona State, our defense has made mistakes it should not be making. 

Against Stanford, there were two plays that stood out. First, there was this long TD run by Stefan Taylor:


On this play, it was as simple as poor tackling. It was a very simple play by Stanford, and the Ducks simply did not execute. Michael Clay had a shot at Taylor at the line of scrimmage, and simply whiffed the tackle. Brandon Hanna had a shot to stop Taylor for a decent gain, but missed as well. 

The second play to look at was Andrew Luck's long pass to Coby Fleener


While we can give a bit more credit to Stanford on this play, this was a play-action pass on 3rd and short. The confusion is seen before the play even starts with Talmadge Jackson III unsure of who he's supposed to be covering, and he ends up being a non-factor on the play. 

The confusion spreads to the linebackers. Michael Clay gets sucked in for just a moment on the play action fake, and with 3 TEs breaking down the middle, and only 2 defenders back, it's a matter of simple numbers, and Fleener is left wide open. If Jackson had been on a receiver, or Clay had covered the middle as it was his responsibility, this play may have been stopped.

That didn't happen, and at the end of the day, that was 14 points the Ducks gave up due to easily correctable mistakes. 

I think this defense could be very good. When they have locked things down, they have been very hard to move the ball against. The same Stanford offense that seemingly moved the ball at will could not run the ball during the second half, and the Ducks secondary excelled in the passing situations that were created. 

The Oregon defense has the ability to dominate the UCLA offense. They did that last year, and can do so again. After the bye week, there won't be excuses for unfocused and confused play. This is a fast, strong, tenacious defense. They move better than any Oregon defense I've ever seen. They hunt down draws and screens and close on opposing ball carriers with amazing quickness.

But none of that means anything if the Ducks don't execute at the most basic level. As we move into the second half of the season, how Oregon cleans up these mistakes will be the difference between an undefeated season and a loss or two.

Against UCLA, I'll be looking for the Ducks to do just that, and play up to their potential. If they do that, UCLA will have a very difficult time keeping the game competitive.

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Sure, the 'D' needs to limit mistakes and keep the score down a little.

But the ‘O’ and Special Teams have put the ‘D’ in some very tough spots with short fields and the like. That accounts for 14 points against Stanford and 7 against WSU as far as I can remember.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 20, 2010 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Its hard to look at yardage as a stat with this team

Agree, unforced errors, missed tackles etc are bad and there is always room for improvement. But our D is fast and they spend a lot of time on the field because our offense is so fast, or the occasional 3 and out. Just looking at overall yardage the D has given up is a very misleading stat.

by F'n Duck on Oct 20, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not especially concerned about yardage.

Points win games, and giving them up cheap isn’t a good thing. We’ve had 2 fumbled returns and an interception all leading to short-yardage situations and touchdowns in the last 2 games. Of course our best defense is our offense, to a point.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 20, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would be interested to see what the yards/drive are.

Then compare them to other top defenses.
For example if oregon opponents totaled 4,000 yards of offense total on the ducks and Alabama’s opponents totaled 3,000, most people would argue that Alabama has a better defense. But if Oregon opponents had 80 possessions and Alabama’s had 60 both teams would be averaging 50 yards/drive or 50yards/possesion. Suddenly the total yards given up don’t mean so much anymore.

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by NewBorne on Oct 20, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last time I saw the stat our yards/play was better than Bama when they were #1 and the nation was ready to give them the NC.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 20, 2010 12:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I saw that.

But I’m talking about the differences between YPG and PPG. We’re speculating that when you look at the totals (especially against Pac-10 competition) we give up fewer points per yard gained than is normal. IOW teams can put up some gaudy yardage totals against us but the scoring rate per yard gained is lower than average.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 20, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just went and looked it up and did some calculations.

So far Oregon has been on Defense 96 times and given up 2031 yards total. That breaks down to 21.16 yards/drive given up. On the flip side Oregon has had the ball 97 times and gained 3402 yards. That breaks down to 31.3 yards/drive.

Alabama has been on defense 79 times and given up 2016 yards, 25.5 per drive. They have been on Offense 82 times and gained 2990 yards, 36.5/drive.

This means in a yards/drive comparison Alabama has a better offense but the Ducks have a Better Defense. Yay statistics!

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by NewBorne on Oct 20, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

let's see

Oregon has scored 326 points and given up 98
BAMA has scored 233 points and given up 90

Broken down:
Oregon scores 3.4 points/drive and yields 1.02 points/drive
BAMA scores 2.8 points/drive and yields 1.14 points/drive.

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by NewBorne on Oct 20, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks. And I hate to do this...

…but I mean yards-per-points AGAINST. How many yards do opposing teams have per point scored against the Ducks. I’d do it myself but I’m playing the role of lazy bastard today.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 20, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok,

Oregon has given up 2031 yards and 98 points so 20.7 yards/point
Oregon has gained 3402 yards and 326 points so 10.4 yards/point

BAMA’s are 22.4 yards/point given up and 12.83 yards/point gained.

I don’t see what this really shows tbh. yards/point seems like an empty stat to me.

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by NewBorne on Oct 20, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

The point was that Oregon seems to give up a lot of yards but relatively few points than what would seem to be indicated. I suppose we’d have to look at a larger sample set to get a true indication. But it’s been bandied about for years that the Ducks D gives up big yards but not big points under DCNA.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 20, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say so at this point in the season.

Check my stats for yards/drive I posted up above.
The competition comparison for Alabama and Oregon to this point.
BAMA ORE
SJSU NM
PENN TENN
Duke PSU
ARK ASU
FLA STAN
SC WAZZU
MISS BYE

The opposition is fairly comparable, yes oregon’s is weaker but not by much considering the talent and stature of both teams.

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by NewBorne on Oct 20, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oregon holds on to the ball

an average of 4:57 less than our opponents. At the same time we have had the exact same number of possessions as our opponent in every game except for ASU where we had one more possession than ASU (20-21)

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by NewBorne on Oct 20, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you turn the ball over inside the 20, then there isn’t much shame in giving up a touchdown, but in the play above, they gave up a 45 yard TD run due to missed tackles.

They haven’t always been in great positions, but they’ve given up a lot of plays that they really shouldn’t, regardless of field position.

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by jtlight on Oct 20, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Certainly no shame in it.

My point is simply that the offense/ST can help out by limiting their own mistakes. As far as the missed tackles issue: When did coaches stop teaching players to…you know…TACKLE? I remember spending many a very hot late August/early September doing form-tackling drills over and over ad nauseam (literally; that was back when even HS teams in Oregon were still doing the Bear Bryant “one sip of water after practice is all you get” bullshit). Anyway, one of the problems with a light-but-fast D-Line is runners getting into the secondary too often. Wasn’t a problem when Big Hal and Co. were here. And the DB’s like the idea of the “big hit” more than the idea of “wrapping up and actually making a damn stop.”

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 20, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the offense can help out, and there have been some circumstances that we can point to that haven’t helped. But our red zone defense has been nothing short of phenomenal.

Also, I don’t blame the size of the D-line on runners getting into the secondary. I think we have just missed tackles or not lined up correctly for the most part. At this point, our rushing defense numbers are better than 2005. Also, I think that our secondary has been making a lot of big time tackles. It’s been much more that the linebackers haven’t been getting players down.

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by jtlight on Oct 20, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

RZ D has been pretty amazing.

We’ve forced some turnovers (Cliff, Matthews) and had some Luck against Stanford regarding a certain unforced fumble.

As far as Vs. 2005? Interesting.

As far as the secondary making tackles? You’d rather your front 7 get the big tackle numbers against the run, wouldn’t you? That would indicate runners aren’t getting into the secondary.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 20, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

As for the secondary, it’d be ideal that the front 7 made the tackles. They have missed some significant ones. But you said:

the DB’s like the idea of the "big hit" more than the idea of "wrapping up and actually making a damn stop."

I don’t think this has been the case.

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by jtlight on Oct 20, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I exaggerate.

I’ve seen SOME of that. But there certainly have been many missed tackles.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 20, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I felt the same way after Stanford,

and although I think that was the case in a few biggish plays, I actually haven’t seen it to be a huge issue.

I think against both Tennessee and Stanford, we had some early formation trouble (a thought that was first put to me by Jared, and then subsequently confirmed via replay), which was corrected in the second halves of each game.

WSU was a different story, and I think our troubles were almost entirely a product of playing a poop team, and not taking it seriously enough.

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by everett on Oct 20, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a really catchy title...I wonder why it isn't used more?

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by 071903 on Oct 20, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does the number of players Oregon subs in have

something to do with the mistakes? Are the mistakes being made by players who have just come on the field and aren’t quite sure what their assignments are yet?

I haven’t seen any evidence of this, but on teevee we don’t generally get to see defensive substitutions.

by encephalopath on Oct 20, 2010 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

That might be part of it.

If you watch closely you will see a never-ending carousel of defensive players out there. I think Matthews, Bair, Clark, and maybe Paysinger are the players who stay on the field the most but it’s hard to tell sometimes.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 20, 2010 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

On that Stanford play I see two things

Dion Jordan gets taken for a ride on the double team from the TE and LT, which basically excluded the entire D-line from making a play, and Clay over pursues the pulling linemen just as the RB Taylor cuts it up inside through the hole left by the Dion Jordan Bulldozer double team, and Clay being out of position. I think the play was supposed to go off tackle, but Taylor did a great job off seeing the hole and hitting it hard.

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by QuackinAK on Oct 20, 2010 12:36 PM PDT reply actions  

We’re going to need our D-Line and our LBers to play very disciplined football against UCLA … they are going to be running the ball right at us over and over again

by echo31 on Oct 20, 2010 1:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Poor tackling is an issue at times with the defense.

For the first half of the game against Tennessee, I starkly remember being incredibly frustrated at our tackling. I don’t know if it’s due to hesitation, improper form, or simply not being large and/or physical enough, but I’d like to see improvement in that category.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 20, 2010 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Long runs by ASU, WSU, and Stanford

that should have been stopped for short gains are examples of this.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 20, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and most notably Tauren Poole.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 20, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

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