Quack Fix: Kenjon Barner increases practice participation and the men's basketball team suffers another loss
It's that special time of year again. I hope you all are enjoying Happy I Hate Washington Week -- here's some quack to add to the festivities!
- Rob Moseley's feature article today is on the Ducks avoiding the significant injuries that have begun to pile up for other conference teams. Moseley notes that one of the keys to avoiding a repeat of 2007 where a string of injuries derailed a national title run is Oregon's depth. Not only is Oregon better prepared to handle an injury to a key player but the depth also lessens the chance that a fatigued player gets injured in the first place.
- Moseley also asks a few Ducks about being #1 in the latest BCS poll -- and as you would expect, the Ducks are saying they only care about the rankings at the end of the season. And, after his 145-yard, three touchdown performance on Saturday, Jeff Maehl was named the Pac-10 offensive player of the week.
- As Dave noted yesterday, the basketball team took another hit as Jay-R Strowbridge broke his nose and dislocated his thumb in a scrimmage on Friday. Coach Altman is unsure when Strowbridge might be eligible to return. As for the scrimmage against Nevada, it's apparently against NCAA rules to allow spectators or media to attend scrimmages against opposing Division I schools -- or even to publish statistics. So, all we have is this Altman quote: "It was a good day for us, that’s all I’ll say."
- In Bob Clark's weekly look around the conference focuses on the struggling California Bears. His conference rankings are included near the bottom, which include this nugget on Oregon: "For the record, 58 is high-point total vs. Huskies."
- Both Moseley and Chris Courtney have practice reports up from Monday. The big news from yesterday is that Kenjon Barner appears to be ramping up his participation in practice. While it is unlikely we'll hear anything official about whether or not he'll be available for Washington until game time, it's great to hear that he's back participating (and making an impact) at practice.
- The Orange County Register has some quotes from Trojan player Shareece Wright on LaMichael James' performance and the Oregon offense wearing down the USC defense late on Saturday. There is also a specific mention of Jurrell Casey needing to take a breather. You wouldn't expect him to be so tired playing against a two man team.
- Ted Miller takes a look at how the conference is living up to its "Conference of QBs" nickname. Miller also offers his thoughts on the Huskies facing Oregon without Jake Locker this weekend. And, Oregon gets a lot of mentions in his "Pac-10 Rewind and Look Ahead" entry.
- After a tough weekend that saw the volleyball team shutout against #2 California and #3 Stanford, the team dropped two spots to #20 in the latest American Volleyball Coaches Association Coaches Top 25 Poll.
There are some video interviews after the jump for your viewing pleasure.
Go Ducks
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There was a lot of info posted in the last 2 days...
If this was captured somewhere, I apologize in advance, but I couldn’t find it anywhere. ESPN’s Heisman Predictor (Insider required) has LMJ #2 right now, but says if Auburn loses and the Ducks win out, it’s LMJ’s to lose “by a wide margin”.
Let’s start simple: If the Auburn Tigers win out, Cameron Newton will win the Heisman trophy.
But what if the Tigers slip up?
Since there were only minor changes in the rankings this weekend, let’s take this opportunity to look into the future and analyze a few different scenarios.
Should the Tigers falter, LaMichael James would be the first contender to step up and replace Newton. If Auburn loses and Oregon wins out, James wins the award by a wide margin.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
Eh, I don't know about that.
I think a couple bad performances by Newton and a few great ones by LMJ would also have to happen.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe, but don’t underestimate the overreaction potential and what-have-you-done-for-me-lately mentality of the talking heads, sportswriters, and Heisman voters. LaMichael made up ground this weekend, according to just about everyone, and Newton didn’t even have a bad game or come close to losing. If Alabama shuts him down and beats him on Friday, Nov 26th at the same time that LaMichael is running wild on Arizona in a win, you never know what will happen. It’s pretty cool that both teams scheduled day-after-Thanksgiving games!
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Nov 2, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Good morning, and Happy Happy I Hate Washington Day Week!
It has been 2,558 days since the Washington Huskies have defeated the Oregon Ducks in football.
DID YOU KNOW?
The Huskies are 21-61 since their last victory over the Ducks. By contrast, Oregon is 62-25.
"[Autzen Stadium's] steep concrete banks and closed ends turn a small but rabid crowd from WAC-sized cheering section into a horde of bees with megaphones capable of reaching 127 decibels of hatenoise." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 2, 2010 7:52 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
nice
College--the best nine years of my life
by AZDeadHeadDuck on Nov 2, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
That's good stuff.
Its neat to have big name programs like Florida taking a page from Oregon’s style.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Reporter-“What’s Eddie’s status.”
Chip Kelly-“Eddie’s day-to-day.” /mini stare
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 8:48 AM PDT reply actions
He's basically conveying, "Hey, dipshit, you've been around long enough to know not to ask this. You'll get the same answer each time."
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Are we supposed to get any other answer at this point? Maybe CK should just record himself saying “He’s day to day” and then play that back every time he’s asked something like that….
Reporter: What’s Eddie’s status?
Chip: /holds up voice recorder and hits button “He’s day to day.”
Reporter: What about Barner?"
Chip: /holds up finger while rewinding recording “He’s day to day.”
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
OT somewhat
A really nice piece by Ted Miller on Kevin Riley.
It’s easy to get caught up in rivalries and schadenfreude and all that stuff, but then we are reminded that these are kids who pour a ton of effort into being as good as they can be on the football field. We saw a little bit of this in yesterday’s thread about Jake Locker, but at least Jake will have the chance to move on and keep playing somewhere else. This is probably it for Riley’s football career, and it sounds like he was a good kid. I think that’s worth a tip of the hat.
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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 2, 2010 9:27 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Nate too
I hope he gets a good amount of playing time on Saturday. The last 3 games will likely be closer scores and he may not get much game time, if any. If the Arizona game is close, this weekend is the last time we’ll see him play at home. He’s really been an important part of this team over the last 3 yrs and I wish him the best.
I'm calling it right now
Costa is going to have an impact on the Arizona game. Senior, last home game, CK knows this and respects Costa enough to call a play just for him. Fake FG, Double Reverse throw back to Barner, I don’t know what it will be, but I know CK has something up his sleeve just for Costa in that game.
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Come è Italia?
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
how many Shufelts have you added so far?
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
He will score 14 points on 2 point conversions.
Go ahead, do the rest of the math in your head.
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by Bill Musgrave on Nov 2, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
If seeing our entire men's basketball team get hurt
Is what it takes for Juju to allow us a chance to win a NC in football, I’ll take it, strange as that is.
Now we might lose by 45 to Duke instead of merely 40.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Unfortunately, that's what Juju does
It’s mischievous like that. Nothing ever serious, just injuries or mishaps that make you go, WTF just happened.
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Btw, one last reminder to vote today!
It is now TOO LATE to drop your ballot in the mail in OR, so please find a local drop box (such as a library) and get it there by 8 PM.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
unless you’re voting for something dumb. if that’s the case, there still is plenty of time to mail it.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Translate, anyone?
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
"I don't have gonads"
Axemen23 is a cat lady. - Brian
by Bill Musgrave on Nov 2, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
He's telling you he has no faith in the electoral process.
Average Score Since 2004:
Oregon 42 Washington 17
Ah.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Italy does vote Communist
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
I live in California so the only important vote on my side is the Jake Locker proposition
AKA Proposition 19 (formerly prop 10)
I am dreading my vote
I have a choice between somebody I wouldn’t normally vote for, but has worked on bipartisan issues with our democratic senator, or the Tea Party candidate who makes Sara Palin look reasonable, or I could vote for the Democrat who is 10-15 points behind and who’s only political experience is as the mayor of Sitka.
I have never voted for a candidate I don’t like, but Joe Miller is crazy. Scott McAdams is not qualified. Murkowski is the lesser of two evils. I’m not sure what I’ll do, but it’s a tough decision. I will vote though. I always vote.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
McAdams
As far as qualifications, I’m not sure McAdams is any less qualified than 15-20 other senators who are already in there. And that doesn’t even get to the level of someone like Jesse Helms, whose entire qualifications pretty much consisted of being a race-baiting journalist.
The reality is that you are voting for a party rather than an individual anyway. McAdams will vote Democrat probably 80% of the time; Murkowski will vote Republican 90%; Miller will vote to the right of the Republican Party if such a thing can exist. So I’d vote for whichever of those options sounds the least unappealing.
To be specific
I am very very partisan, but to keep it nonpartisan, doesn’t Democrat Herb Kohl’s credentials essentially consist of being wealthy? On the Republican side, James Inhofe isn’t qualified enough to run a 7-11. So I don’t think this actually matters that much in the big scheme of things, though obviously you’d want someone who actually is qualified.
EDSBS = AtQ Southeast
They love us! They really love us!
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
No kidding, they like us.
We’re also this week’s Aggro-Tourism destination.
And I forgot to add, keeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttttttt1’s Duck-USC dance-off video got top billing on the Curious Index.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 2, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
so you know how lame it is to vote for the Duck in the silly Mascot Bowl or whatever its called? well here is a real reason to blow up the internets – Amanda needs our help. your reward? i have no idea but she gets to host Paradise Hunter, go on vacation and film it (i think)
http://www.paradisehunter.com/vote/Amanda45.html
courtesy of @supwitchugirl
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
OMG, worth going to vote just to watch her video.
"It’s great with these group of guys. There is no panic in them." --Chip Kelly, Clearly NOT talking about members of ATQ.
She throws up a double O at the end, OSCAR WORTHY.
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by Bill Musgrave on Nov 2, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
For those who think we will win by 100...
while that is a logical conclusion, I continue to panic because
My brain's panic center has already assimilated this information,
and while it was briefly amused by this possibility, wants you to know that WE ARE STILL WINNING BY A FUCKING BILLION POINTS.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 2, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
With Locker, that scenario was probably possible. Without Locker, and with our offense, I just don’t see it. That being said, I never say that there’s no way any team can win. But if we played this game 100 times, I honestly believe we’d win 99 times. With Locker I think they are capable of putting up a fight, but they’re backup QB is going to get his first start ever at Autzen. As if it’s not bad enough for someone to get their first start at Autzen, the crowd will be extra-crazy because it’s the fuskies. Some other 3-5 team might be able to slide under the radar in this scenario, but Autzen is going to be out for blood. Every time I start to feel even a little sorry for the fuskies, I think back to my childhood and how they were, and remember what made me start hating them to begin with. I will never forget them stomping on the logo at midfield in Autzen in 2002, coincidentally the last time they won in Autzen.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Nov 2, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I completely agree and fully expect the Ducks to win even easier than the UCLA game. But its that 1 out of 100 that keeps me in check. Fortunately, I think the team has the right attitude about winning the day and focusing on the upcoming opponent.
that one out of 100
Is what keeps my stress level elevated. And now that we are coming down to the wire, each week i get just a little bit worse. I feel great knowing how Kelly has his players approaching each game.
"We aren't into making statements, we are into winning games" -Chip Kelly
by UOfootball on Nov 2, 2010 1:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep, I agree. I have minimal stress level about this game, but it’s not a zero. They were able to muster up a good enough performance to win at USC this year pretty much straight up. They only had 1 takeaway and that was from a forced fumble. They gave up 298 yards rushing, but only 186 passing and no INT’s from Barkley. I highly doubt this happens to us, especially given their recent downward spiral and the fact that they are beaten up from the Stanford game they just played, but if we play a terrible game with a lot of turnovers it’s not completely impossible.
I have as much faith and confidence as the next guy, but hell we were tied at half with Tennessee. People talk about trap games all the time. To me, this is as close to a trap game as we have. EVERYONE is overlooking them. It’s a rivalry game against a team who will look at this as a successful season if they knock us off.
All that said, we should beat the living shit out of this team. If we play this game 100 times, I think we win by 20+ 80 times, we win by 10+ 15 times, we win by 9 or less 4 times, and we lose by 3 or less once. 28+ point upsets happen, and every time they do if you could check the blog of the team who was upset the week before that game you’d find a bunch of fans who said there’s NO WAY they lose. I guarantee you USC fans thought there was NO CHANCE Stanford would have won the game referenced above. This wasn’t the Stanford we know today…this was a Tavita Pritchard-led offense who went for 235 total yards and won in the Coliseum. Crazy shit happens in college football is all I’m sayin’.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Nov 2, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem with this approach..
.. is that it factors way too much luck into the equation.
Say I come to a locked door. If I turn the door handle 100 times, I will fail to get through the door 100 times. It’s possible there might be some external event — say, an earthquake, or the Kool-Aid Man — that allows me to somehow get to the other side of that door. But it’s nothing you’d ever bet on.
UW ain’t getting through that locked door on Saturday. Relax.
Average Score Since 2004:
Oregon 42 Washington 17
I think if we play this game 100 times....
We win 101 of them…Don’t really think there’s any point of debate on this either. Pretty straight forward!
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Nov 2, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If you don’t think there’s any point of debate, then why are you starting a debate?
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Nov 2, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I've said it once before
And I will say it once again:
UW is the Notre Dame of the PAC10. That is all.
...GO DOUG...
by Your Favorite Team's Favorite Team on Nov 2, 2010 11:00 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I've told to this everyone I know
and I get a complete consensus on it.
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Did anybody else think it was a little odd that DT said that he didn't realize UO-UW was a rivalry until recently?
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 12:05 PM PDT reply actions
Recently is a relative term.
I wouldn’t expect a 20-yr-old kid from Houston to know UO-UW is a rivalry.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 2, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
For some reason it came off to me as though he JUST found out.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Most of our players didn't have know about the Oregon rivalries with Fuskies OR Beavers until getting here.
And even then, when you’ve won by at least 20 for six straight years, it’s probably hard to build the rage. I think I remember reading something about Joey educating his teammates and instilling the fire about these rivalries they really didn’t care about before. And really, the biggest way to build the passion is to lose to the rivals a time or two. UW in Autzen in 2002 probably bought at least four years of extra bad will on the team.
by omb on Nov 2, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
The only sophomore on the list, notably.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Sad, sad news out of Mississippi State
@WLBT: According to MSU officials, defensive end Nick Bell has passed away. The 20 year old had been battling cancer.
He played in two games this season before being diagnosed with cancer, and passed away this morning. Thoughts and prayers with the his family
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
this really sucks
melanoma, once metastasized, is possibly the nastiest cancer you can have. Wish all the best for his family.
--Dave
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I can't imagine
what his family is going through. Prayers and thoughts to all who knew him!
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Nov 2, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
From a comment on Rob's Blog in the RG - loving it
trustyman, las vegas
HUSKY PRACTICE REPORT:
Training at Husky stadium was delayed nearly two hours this morning, after a player reported finding an unknown white powdery substance on the ground. After a complete analysis, Seattle Police forensic experts determined that the white substance, unfamiliar to most of the players, was the goal line. Practice will resume this afternoon after Police decided the team was unlikely to encounter the substance again.
BOOM… GO DUCKS! WIN THE DAY!
College--the best nine years of my life
by AZDeadHeadDuck on Nov 2, 2010 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 10 recs
Just passed that on
To my Fuskie co-worker… I love HIHWDW
You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake -Tyler Durden
And, "Lockdown" is the only Sophomore
Hating the Fuskies for 63 years
College--the best nine years of my life
oops
meant as a reply to sacduxnutx
College--the best nine years of my life
by AZDeadHeadDuck on Nov 2, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
hey look, cliff harris jokes on twatter
@DangerNinja: @DuckFootball If you don’t know who to vote for today, just write-in Cliff Harris and you know your vote will be covered.
@Bjensen81 @DuckFootball trying to pick a new insurance company but not sure who has better coverage than Cliff Harris ?
rkremers @nikeblog I voted for Cliff Harris. He has the interests of all parties COVERED
@SuspenceJS Couldn’t decide between the candidates so I took advantage of the “Write in” option…I voted for Cliff Harris.
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
by axemen23 on Nov 2, 2010 2:25 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Harbaugh quote per Ted Miller's twitter:
harbaugh: When asked about if he knew Locker had a broken rib on Sat., he said, “I still don’t know if that’s true.”
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Comments on a hard-core 'Bama board..
Actually, more reasoned and thoughtful than expected, although their points are nothing new (“no defense in the Pac10”, etc).
Average Score Since 2004:
Oregon 42 Washington 17
There are some good posts in there. And I made this point awhile ago (maybe before the Stanford game), but I am terrified of a close game. No team has been within a score of the Ducks in the fourth quarter (excepting Stanford, who was down by 7 for all of 5 seconds in the fourth before the Ducks scored a TD).
I know Kelly does two-minute drills in practice all the time because we hear about those in practice reports. And our offense is already built to excel in that kind of scenario because they run a no huddle anyway. But you can’t replicate the pressure. And Rob Beard hasn’t had to make a pressure-packed FG in a game situation.
In honesty, this is nitpicking. There’s no reason to think this team would choke in that scenario. As posters in that thread mentioned, it’s not an indication of weakness that the Ducks haven’t won by less than 11 points (and not less than 20 in the last four games). But it is something I irrationally worry about. Because at the end of the day, it’s sports, and anything can happen.
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I honestly don't know if we will need to run a two minute in a game...
unless we turn the ball over a ton. We’re 35 point favorites against UW, Cal will probably rollover, AZ is stronger on D this year than offense and can’t punch it in, and OS is terrible on the edges. We are going to have to fook up bad to be in that situation…
Oregon grinds opponents down until they say "uncle."
Cal will probably rollover
I found this to be a very interesting stat from Pat Forde, whom I hate, but interesting nonetheless:
Oregon at California (10), Nov. 13. This should be another in a series of blowouts by the Ducks. But the Golden Bears have been one of the all-time split personality teams in college football history. Cal on the road: 0-4, with an average margin of defeat of 21 points. Cal at home: 4-0, with an average margin of victory of nearly 39 points.
39 point MOV at home is nothing to sneeze at. They beat Arizona State 50-17 with ASU coming off a bye week. Talk about split personality. They are a totally different team at home. We should still handle them though.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Nov 2, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn't any field goal with Coach Kelly staring at you be pressure filled?
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
I'm a bit confused.
If one runs a 60-minute-long “2 minute drill” already, hasn’t the phrase lost all meaning?
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 2, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
its irritating
To hear the biggest reason they think the Ducks will lose is because they haven’t played in any “close” games. They have been in plenty of close games. Opposing teams are so tired by the fourth quarter Oregon just explodes on their defense.
"We aren't into making statements, we are into winning games" -Chip Kelly
by UOfootball on Nov 2, 2010 3:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I tried signing up...
but there are lot of hoops. They don’t accept yahoo email addresses.
Oregon grinds opponents down until they say "uncle."
About that whole "SEC Defense" thing..
It’s specious.
National rankings of Pac10 teams, total defense:
Arizona 10
California 21
Stanford 30
Oregon 35
Arizona St. 38
UCLA 94
Oregon St. 94
U$C 98
UW 100
WSU 120
The top half of the Pac averages out at 26.8 nationally; the bottom half, 101.2 out of 120. Which just shows what we already know; the good defenses are better than average, the bottom-feeders are there for a reason.
Oregon has played 3 of the bottom 5, and 2 of the top 4. So it’s valid to say we haven’t really been tested in conference yet.
Here’s the same data for the SEC..
LSU 7
Alabama 11
Florida 23
Georgia 28
Arkansas 31
Mississippi St. 34
Kentucky 50
Auburn 57
South Carolina 59
Mississippi 81
Tennessee 87
Vanderbilt 90
Note that the worst SEC team ranks higher nationally than the entire bottom half of the Pac. But the top half of the Pac compares pretty favorably with the top of the SEC.
Dig deeper. Oregon’s five opponents average ranking is 53.4. Auburn’s six SEC opponents average out to 43.7.
Seems like a big difference, 43 vs 53, doesn’t it?
Well, the #43 team nationally in total defense is Florida Int’l. They’re giving up 342.86 yards per game.
- is Georgia Tech, allowing 354.25 yards per game.
That’s 11.39 yards of difference per game between the 43rd and 53rd ranked defenses.
The average team runs 67 plays per game. Do the math, and tell me how much better the defenses Auburn’s faced are than the ones Oregon’s shredded.
Average Score Since 2004:
Oregon 42 Washington 17
by benzduck on Nov 2, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not so fast!
I love that the Bama faithful went all Lee Corso on this guy.
by QuackWhore on Nov 2, 2010 3:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Thank you! I’ve been reading you guys for a few months. Just been sitting on the sidelines.
by QuackWhore on Nov 2, 2010 5:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Love the nickname
College--the best nine years of my life
by AZDeadHeadDuck on Nov 2, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Those 'Bama fans actually seem very rational.
The matchup in Glendale I’m rooting for is Alabama-Oregon, without a doubt.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You betcha. There’s something about beating the defending champions that would make it a great test.
Although I’d rather play Auburn, as a fan, because I think it wouldn’t be much of a contest.
Average Score Since 2004:
Oregon 42 Washington 17
You really don't think it would be much of a contest?
Huh. I disagree.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, that was a bit extreme...
.. but I think Bama’s defense is much better than Auburn’s. I’ve watched Auburn play several times this year, and outside of Fairley, who is a bonafide talent, they don’t have much on the other side of the ball. I think Thomas would pick them apart, keep them from loading the box, and then LMJ just runs where Fairley isn’t.
But I’d really like to see CK’s gameplan against Bama.. because the last time we had to face a really good defense, things didn’t work out so well. And I think he really wants another chance.
Average Score Since 2004:
Oregon 42 Washington 17
Yeah, that's why I want to play 'Bama.
One of the country’s best defenses against its best offense. A matchup of two immensely talented teams with excellent coaches.
Cam Newton would scare me greatly if we played Auburn, though.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
This neglects last season completely...
which aside from the QB position, doesn’t seem fair. Most of the two deep from the roster remains intact from last year, and they played admirably in some damn close games (@Arizona and OSU specifically). Also, being down 21-3 (vs. a very good Stanford team) and having the poise to come back is nothing to sneeze at. We don’t know for sure how Darron Thomas will respond if we’re down by four with two minutes to go, but all evidence leads me to believe he’ll perform well. All in all, I’d say this team is demonstrably “clutch.”
we also dont know
what laheisman will do in -40 degree weather on a snow covered field and winds gusting at 140mph. but since its not going to happen who cares. I know what they can do in the situations they have been in and for the most part it has been amazing
#88
Depends.
is it a headwind or a tailwind? If it’s a tailwind, he’d approach Terrelle Pryor-like speed.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Does Tacoi Sumler run a sub negative 2.5 40?
NO
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
This is mildly NSFW, but I managed to read the whole thing and keep my lunch down, so you should be able to as well.
Have fun!
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Why are you reading a story about a man's testicles?
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Nov 2, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don’t know why axemen insists on posting some wierd mildly disturbing link each day that has nothing to do with the Ducks, but I appreciate you taking one for the team and letting everyone know not to read it. Thanks, mackjones23!
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Nov 2, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
just a little off the beaten path reading for you guys. and he wasn’t specific enough.
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
He was specific enough that it confirmed my assumption that I shouldn’t click the link.
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Nov 2, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
damn it MCD, your post startled me into posting before I proof read.
1
Happy Happy I Hate Washington Week!
but....its like.......not what you'd think it is.
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Does it have ANYTHING to do with the Ducks?
In the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss. The REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC 10. The Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Nov 2, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
All I saw
was axemen23 and testicles…. Pass!
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Good play action call, perfect read.
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by Bill Musgrave on Nov 2, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing to do with the Ducks, nothing to do with sports, nothing to do with this blog.
Ça plane pour moi.
For some reason, this makes me think...
Mr. Blutarsky: Zero point zero.
Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
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by Bill Musgrave on Nov 2, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I love that our "biggest test" is a moving target.
THREE biggest tests await: Cal is a very good team at home, Arizona has only lost to Oregon State, and you know the Beavers would like to gain revenge for the last 2 years since the Ducks KO’ed them from the Rose Bowl both times.
First it was Tennessee (before anyone found out they sucked). Then the test was the Furd, and those Ducks wont be able to play with a pro style team. Then no way our defense would hold up to USC. Now Cal, Arizona and OSU are our “biggest challenges” of the year?
If the the SEC thinks we are such pusses, then why would middle of the conference be our road block? No disrespect to Cal, OSU or Zona. I dont underestimate any of them. But i love how no matter what our Ducks accomplish, SEC tards are just waiting for us to get out of their 1-loss way.
Stick your Duck in a Trojan, they burst under pressure.
The "revenge" thing is overplayed.
Didn’t OAC want revenge last year for us knocking them out of the RB in 2008? In their house?
Might as well say “Oregon is motivated! They want revenge for the last two losses at Cal!”
Makes as much sense.
Average Score Since 2004:
Oregon 42 Washington 17
You've played your so-called biggest tests...
..but everyone knew Tennessee sucked. Including Lane Kiffin
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
OT
but the newest xbox update is awesome
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
He should hold an auction where—
Oh wait, nevermind.
by grimc on Nov 2, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
rec'd
Q: How come Oregon State players haven't gotten in trouble for stealing anything from a frat house?
A: Who wants to steal a lunchbox?
by QuackQuackAttack on Nov 2, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
espn3 is good
but i have been having problems with my zune and netflix updates, and there are a few small problems i have eith the new set up
#88
you mean like how the dashboard color scheme tries to blind you?
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
like what kind of messages?
I’ve only had the dashboard since this afternoon
+: ESPN, more streamlined
-: nexflix issues, color scheme and layout of dash, hiding the indie games
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
game invites, friend requests, messages in general.
nothing pops up anymore to tell you that you got one and some of mine havent showed up. ie talking to my brother on the phone him-“i sent you an invite” me-“didnt get one” him-“k, i sent it two more times” me-“still didnt get it”
#88
yeah, but I had that problem on the old updates also.
Q: How come Oregon State players haven't gotten in trouble for stealing anything from a frat house?
A: Who wants to steal a lunchbox?
by QuackQuackAttack on Nov 3, 2010 5:06 AM PDT up reply actions
There was a msg tonight
8pm pacific – that said they were experiencing problems with a lot of their content and they’d be working on it. — right before I started watching the replay of Oregon-USC on the XBOX live.
"David Paulson dropped a ball one time just to see what it felt like. But he didn't like it so he decided not to do it again." -Mark Asper
You can watch the Oregon USC game again
Right now on XBOX live. Am watching it and it’s great without the commercials and I swear it’s a lot clearer then the original broadcast.
"David Paulson dropped a ball one time just to see what it felt like. But he didn't like it so he decided not to do it again." -Mark Asper
I'm watching a replay of the USC grinder
YES AGAIN. And after that awesome punt return by Harris there was Kenjon on the sideline, giving some knowledge to Harris after he comes over. That’s awesome that we have him on the side like that, helping our rad young guys, making them even radder
...GO DOUG...
by Your Favorite Team's Favorite Team on Nov 2, 2010 5:33 PM PDT reply actions
I saw that during the game..
Kenjon talking to him and motioning like he was telling him to just get up the field and get as many yards as you can without dancing around.. I Love My Ducks!
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Nov 2, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Jesse Palmer
On ESPN just now says that our only hard game left is really Arizona. He feels there defense won’t prevent us from scorring, but may slow us down some.
"David Paulson dropped a ball one time just to see what it felt like. But he didn't like it so he decided not to do it again." -Mark Asper
I'm watching The Experts
Lugenbill says that Civil War is going to be the big one. I agree.
And I think Cal will be scary.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
How sick.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 2, 2010 7:04 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
After looking at things, it seems extremely unlikely that the PAC 10 gets 2 BCS teams
With 4 at-large bids, one becomes an auto bid for Boise/TCU/Utah. The SEC gets their annual automatic at-large bid. If TCU/Utah/Boise has a second top 5 team, they will almost assuredly get a bid. And its hard to imagine a Pac 10 team getting a bid over a 1-loss Big Ten team.
Uhh.. what?
If Auburn gets through the rest of its schedule, Alabama would have two losses, and there would be a bit of pressure on the BCS bowls to take a one-loss and higher-ranked team over ‘Bama, even if they’re no longer the “defending” national champs. No way Bama at 10-2 gets in over Stanford at 11-1 with its only loss to the #1 team.
The Big10 gets an at-large for sure if TOSU, Wiscy and MSU all go 11-1. Which is certainly within the realm of possibility; in this scenario I don’t know what the Rose Bowl tiebreaker is, but TOSU would likely be the odd team out and would get an at-large bid.
If Stanford wins out, I think it looks like this: Stanford, TOSU, ([TCU/Utah]/BSU Pick One) and either Auburn (if Bama wins out) or the 2nd non-AQ undefeated.
That’s a big “if” though.. where’s the Big Game this year?
Average Score Since 2004:
Oregon 42 Washington 17
Not so fast, my friend
Let’s think this through. Assume Auburn and Oregon win out. Alabama wins out except for Auburn. The three Big 10’s go 11 – 1. TCU and Boise win out. Stanford wins out. Oklahoma beats Nebraska for the Big 12. Mizzou wins out. This is what we’re looking at:
1. Oregon
2. Auburn
3. TCU
4. BSU
5. Oklahoma
6. Wisconsin
7. tOSU
8. Stanford
9. Mizzou
10. MSU
11. Bama
12. Nebraska
In this scenario, as crappy as it is, I could see the Sugar Bowl taking Bama over Stanford or BSU.
NCG: Oregon – Auburn
Orange: ACC Crap – tOSU
Fiesta: Oklahoma – Big East Crap
Rose: TCU – Wisconsin
Sugar: Alabama – BSU/Nebraska
It could happen. There are a few keys – if VaTech wins the ACC, no way the Orange Bowl takes BSU for a rematch. The Fiesta Bowl isn’t going to want BSU. The Sugar Bowl desperately wants an SEC team. I think this scenario could lead to Stanford going to either the Orange Bowl or the Sugar Bowl if this scenario plays out. But tOSU and Nebraska are both going to travel much better, and might qualify depending on how the other stuff shakes out.
With Stanford’s reputation for having a lousy fanbase, I could see the Southern bowls shying away. I’m not sure what the Fiesta Bowl’s requirements are, but that could be a destination.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Yeah, your scenario is as plausible as mine. Almost.
The Sugar Bowl gets the first “gimme gimme” pick, since it lost the SEC champ to the title game, and you’re right, they will probably take a 10-2 Auburn over Stanford. But it’s not too late..
Next pick goes to the Orange, and they’ll take the best Big Ten team available. Tradition dont’chaknow. Two down, two to go..
Then the Fiesta picks, and as you said won’t want either TCU or fBSU depending on which is available. But I really doubt they take the Big East Crap if Stanford is available at 11-1; I don’t think Stanford’s ever played in the Fiesta, and don’t you think there’d be a bit of pressure to take them?
I do agree that it’s highly unlikely that Stanford gets into either of the eastern BCS games.
Average Score Since 2004:
Oregon 42 Washington 17
Yeah, that’s what I wasn’t sure about. I know ACC Crap and Big East Crap have to go somewhere, but I wasn’t sure if they were tied into a specific bowl or if they just counted as at-large selections that could go anywhere. If the Fiesta has an open slot, that’s Stanford’s best bet. Another key is for TCU to beat Utah (even though I’m rooting for Utah). If Utah wins, they might finish behind BSU in the final BCS, and the Fiesta would be tempted to take them over Furd.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
ACC has to go to the Orange Bowl.
Q: How come Oregon State players haven't gotten in trouble for stealing anything from a frat house?
A: Who wants to steal a lunchbox?
by QuackQuackAttack on Nov 3, 2010 5:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Oklahoma and Nebraska is impossible
One of these teams will have a second loss either along the way or they will lose to the other in the Big 12 championship game
Why is that impossible? The BCS is allowed to take two-loss teams, as long as they’re ranked high enough. In my scenario, Alabama has a second loss as well. As long as that team doesn’t constitute a third team from the conference, they are eligible to be taken by the BCS.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I thought this was an interesting read: (Sorry if its already been linked.)
Q: How come Oregon State players haven't gotten in trouble for stealing anything from a frat house?
A: Who wants to steal a lunchbox?
by QuackQuackAttack on Nov 2, 2010 8:44 PM PDT reply actions
Thanks.
I hadn’t read that and it is hilarious and insightful. Hadn’t even thought of our defense being “Ahead of a curve that doesn’t even exist yet.” Could be insanely prophetic as teams continue to jump on the bandwagon of “let’s try to run our offense like Oregon does!”
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Nov 2, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
only CK could compare us to Secretariat and Pre in the same sentence with a straight face:
"Before we played Portland State, we talked about Secretariat," Kelly said. "That horse didn’t care who it raced against. Line up and go. Steve Prefontaine did not care who he was running against. He was going to run as hard as could for as long as he could. That’s what I hope our attitude is in this football program. …
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2010/11/oregon_football_uo_coach_chip_1.html
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Watching the game from this weekend
Obviously this is something that’s been going on since we went to the no huddle, but I’ve always been curious. What exactly is the rule about false starts? Especially when we’ve got a lead in the 4th, our guys will go to their formation and get set, DT does his little timing motion where he throws his hand down, and then everyone pops up and looks to the sideline for the play.
Why is this not a false start? I figured since the line got set, any movement by them would get flagged, but it doesn’t. I’d love any clarification on this. Obviously there’s something in the rules that allow this kind of motion.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Could it be that Thomas isn’t actually “setting” the line? I’ve seen other teams do it, though like 1 time a game, not 60
"Hawaii doesn't win many games in the United States." -Lee Corso
Sure, I’ve seen other teams do it too. It’s by no means unique to our team. I believe Mizzou was doing it in the Oklahoma game. I’m just wondering what in the rules makes it legal. What constitutes “setting the line?”
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I'm not sure
but isn’t a false start contingent on hands being set on the line, I noticed that many of the linemen didn’t get in this stance until after that, if they were already set, they just moved their head or didn’t move at all. Again I could be completely wrong, but that is just what I noticed.
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
I was wondering if I was the only one puzzled by this.
I’ve been thinking about this for years. Like you said, obviously there’s a rule permitting motion like that after “getting set”, otherwise they wouldn’t use it so much.
I wonder the same thing about the rule of not being able to put two men in motion at the same time, while complete shifts of like four guys at once is kosher.
Ça plane pour moi.
My brother-in-law, who played high school football and now coaches it, exclaimed something to the effect of, “Hey, that’s a false start! They were set!” on one of the plays where this happened. So it seems that sort of motion is illegal in high school football. He wasn’t aware of how the rules were different in the NCAA.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I believe it has to do with the QB resetting the line
I think the QB has to move first and then everyone can reset and run the play. For example if two guys go in motion at once, to not get an illegal shift penalty, the QB has to step away and reset the line, pause, and then run the play.
That’s just my educated guess.
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RULE 7-1-4
4. No offensive player shall contact an opponent or make a false start,
which includes (A.R. 7-1-3-IV) [S7 and S19]:
(a) Feigning a charge.
(b) A shift or movement that simulates the beginning of a play.
This includes the snapper who, after assuming a position for the
succeeding snap and touching or simulating (hand[s] at or below
his knees) touching the ball, moves to another position.
(c ) A lineman between the snapper and the player on the end of the
line, after having placed a hand(s) on or near the ground (below
the knees), moving his hand(s) or making any quick movement;
or a lineman other than the snapper wearing number 50 through
79, after having placed a hand(s) on or near the ground (below the
knees), moving his hand(s) or making any quick movement (A.R.
7-1-3-VII, VIII, X and XI).
[Exception: It is not a false start if any player on the line of
scrimmage immediately reacts when threatened by a Team B
player in the neutral zone (Rule 7-1-5-a-2) (A.R. 7-1-3-VIII and
IX)].
(d) An offensive player between the snapper and the player on the
end of the line, neither legally in the backfield nor legally on the
line of scrimmage, after having placed a hand(s) on or near the
ground (below the knees), moving his hand(s) or making any
quick movement.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
Shifts and False Starts
ARTICLE 4. a. If a snap is preceded by a huddle or shift, all players of the
offensive team must come to an absolute stop and remain stationary in their
positions, without movement of the feet, body, head or arms, for at least one
full second before the ball is snapped (A.R. 7-1-4-I) [S20].
b. It is not intended that Rule 7-1-4-a should prohibit smooth, rhythmical
shifts if properly executed. A smooth cadence shift or unhurried motion
is not an infraction. However, it is the responsibility of an offensive
player who moves before the snap to do so in a manner that in no way
simulates the beginning of a play. After the ball is ready for play and
all players are in scrimmage formation, no offensive player shall make
a quick, jerky movement before the snap, including but not limited to
(A.R. 7-1-4-II-IV):
1. A lineman moving his foot, shoulder, arm, body or head in a quick,
jerky motion in any direction [S19].
2. The snapper shifting or moving the ball or moving his thumb or
fingers, flexing his elbows, jerking his head, or dipping his shoulders
or buttocks [S19].
3. The quarterback "chucking’’ his hands at the snapper, flexing his
elbows under the snapper, jerking his head or dropping his shoulders
quickly just before the snap [S19].
4. A player, before the snap, simulating receiving the ball by "chucking’’
his hands toward the snapper or quarterback or making any quick,
jerky movement that simulates the beginning of a play [S19].
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-T-I-G-H-T-A-T-T-H-E-H-E-E-L"
Kiffin throws self under bus in interview
Also thinks Oregon will “keep on rolling and win this whole thing.”
Average Score Since 2004:
Oregon 42 Washington 17
It’s relatively refreshing to hear a coach take blame like that. He’s still a douche, but at least he isn’t blaming his players.
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Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.
To be honest, I'm starting to hate Kiffin less and less.
He may have matured just a bit.
Maybe.
Q: How come Oregon State players haven't gotten in trouble for stealing anything from a frat house?
A: Who wants to steal a lunchbox?
by QuackQuackAttack on Nov 3, 2010 5:10 AM PDT up reply actions
TAKO AND QQA NO!!!!!!!!

I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 3, 2010 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Blasphemy
To be quite honest, Kiffin himself is worse than Washington in my opinion. The guy is runner up for biggest douche in the universe, of course we all know who came in first place, John Edwards
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
Are we talking living douches or all-time douches?
’Cause Hitler is still the douchiest historical figure on record.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 3, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I think of him as more of an extraordinary dickhead.
The old Neuheisel was a real douche, for example.
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by Bill Musgrave on Nov 3, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions

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