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Clueless Chip Kelly

On John Canzano's Bald Faced "Truth" Bald Faced Truth radio show, Oregon head coach Chip Kelly said this regarding today's breaking news about Ohio State players - including starting quarterback Terrelle Pryor - accepting improper benefits and selling memorabilia:

"I can't figure out what went on and why they weren't suspended for the next game."

This is one of many examples of a coach who just flat out doesn't get it.  Chip thinks college football is about being a teacher, a mentor, and a good example of moral character to his players.  He thinks his job is to teach life lessons to the young men in his program, even if his reputation suffers.  He thinks a personal decision regarding the future of an athlete should trump a public display of justice.  He thinks players should suffer the consequences of their actions at the expense of on-field performance.  He thinks this is all about setting kids up to succeed as adults, rather than setting them up to succeed as physical specimens with no regard for the rules of life and no plan for life after football.  He clearly does not understand what the business of college football is all about.  Is this someone I want running my school's football program for the next 30 years?

Star-divide

 

Yes.

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I like this.

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by skywaker9 on Dec 23, 2010 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

30 years?

One can only hope.

"Don't take life so serious, son. It ain't nohow permanent."

by Orygunian on Dec 23, 2010 6:20 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, if Chip Kelly is at Oregon for 30 years...wow.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller....I'd say Chip made an alright decision.

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Dec 23, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That means we could have as many as THIRTY national championships!!!

by JonathanPDX on Dec 23, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope I'm still alive In 30 years

So I can watch Chip coaching in the Galactic Championship on the 3D holographic display system with real SmellOVision.

Oregon Ducks. Undefeated vs SEC since 1977.

by benzduck on Dec 23, 2010 6:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Haha.

Futurama references are always funny.

"We will not settle for average, we will strive for greatness." Chip Kelly

by Duck_In_NC on Dec 23, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Who wants to take bets until someone falls into the sarchasm.

It’s spelled "J-A-Y-S-H-O-E-F-E-L-T-J-S-H-U-F-E-L-T"

by JShufelt on Dec 23, 2010 6:39 PM PST reply actions  

can i tease that bet with the fact they will be a fan of an SEC school?

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 23, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

If I get anybody, it’ll be a Duck fan who’s really offended that I dare question Chip, the Great and Powerful.

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by Takimoto on Dec 23, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

who is Ohio State?

I think its bogus that athletes can’t sell their own stuff like the school can, but I do think rules should be followed, thus immediate suspension is in order

"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin

by haveasoda on Dec 23, 2010 7:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

My opinion

I think that the NCAA started the suspension for next season to keep the ratings up for the BCS game in order to preserve projected revenue that will come from the Sugar Bowl. Who wants to watch a game where half of the star players of one team won’t be playing because they were jackasses?

I DO!!!

But that’s just me…

by GatorUte on Dec 23, 2010 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

It's simple really.

You suspend the players for this year’s Sugar Bowl. After the game is played, figure out how much TV revenue was lost as compared to the average of last year’s Sugar Bowl and last year’s Rose Bowl (OSU’s last bowl game), and fine OSU that much. You think they’ll teach their players the rules now?

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by Takimoto on Dec 23, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's my only question?

How much influence did ESPN have in this decision? If it’s anything greater than zero, that is a shame. I get that ESPN has a lot invested in this game because it’s 1) one of the only other really good bowl games out there 2) advertising revenue is based on number of viewers and ESPN would have to pay a lot of money back to advertisers if this game was a flop and 3) they almost certainly already begun their promotional work which would include Pryor, Herron Arkansas players etc and that would all have to be reworked if those players were suspended. But they better not be driving or influencing NCAA suspensions no matter how much money they have invested in this.

I only hope that the NCAA didn’t call the WWL and say, “here’s what we’ve found, you got any input on this?” Oh yeah, and Mark May, you’re fucking retard. The NCAA isn’t bending over for the Big 10 and slapping around the SEC. You’re nothing more than an ESPN honk with terrible opinions and worse analysis. The fact that you can’t even match wits with Lou Holtz says all I need to know about your opinions.

by Matt Daddy on Dec 23, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Mark May is a total tool.

Did anyone catch what he said when he was talking about the NCAA taking it easy on the Big Ten? I missed all of what he said but I heard him group the PAC-10 in there with them and implying that the SEC is the poor abused child in this situation. Was he referring to the USC situation maybe?

"We aren't into making statements, we are into winning games" -Chip Kelly

by UOfootball on Dec 23, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

He was talking about how the SEC players got punished right away and the Big 10 players get to play their bowl game. Basically, he was implying that the NCAA is harsher on the SEC than on other conferences (huh, he works for ESPN who pretty much owns the SEC… go figure).

by Matt Daddy on Dec 23, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

since when is UNC and Cam Newton in the Big 10?

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 23, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

UNC got butt-fucked by the NCAA.

The O is the new U

by jcolomy on Dec 24, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Punished right away?

Like the swift justice Cam Newton got when he was ineligible for all of twenty minutes? What a joke.

"We aren't into making statements, we are into winning games" -Chip Kelly

by UOfootball on Dec 23, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

WAIT A MINUTE!

So, the USC that actually recently got severely punished with massive bowl hits and scholarship loses was the USC as in University of South Carolina which resides in the SEC!!!???

HOW COME NOBODY EVER CORRECTED ME GRACIOUSLY LIKE MARK MAY DID TILL NOW!?

Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on Dec 24, 2010 12:30 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Mark May is a total tool, agreed.

He just hates the Big Ten with a passion. But growing up in the shadow of Penn State (May’s a Pitt grad) will do that, I guess…

He’s still a tool.

To get punished by the NCAA nowadays, especially if you’re at a major school, you have to be monumentally stupid. -ReadingRambler

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 24, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

An immediate suspension would be ineffective

as the appeal, which would stay enforcement, would take until after the bowl anyway. So the effect would be the same, a suspension next fall, with more media attention in the short range, which might actually attract more viewership.

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by AndyPanda on Dec 27, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

i wish he would’ve asked him, “Hypothetically, Pryor and co. should’ve been ineligible for last year’s Rose Bowl. how do you feel about this Chip?”

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 23, 2010 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

I think I'll wear my visor to The Game, no matter where I sit.

   Maybe even my ‘We Don’t Deal in Hypotheticals’ AtQ T Shirt even tho’ it’s not yellow.

"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA

by Famous Duck on Dec 23, 2010 7:30 PM PST reply actions  

Chip also cannot figure out why this fantastic piece of sarcasm has not been rec’d yet.

Cal Bears football... Doing less with more since 2002.

by JConant on Dec 23, 2010 7:36 PM PST reply actions  

coach kelly is so great.

randomly bumped into him today just outside of autzen (visiting my parents and showing my wife where i grew up watching football games as a kid in the 80s/90s).

saw someone coming around the corner as i was approaching the gate on the casanova center side and realized it was him. was wondering what to say; didn’t want to hold him up, so just told him “good luck, man” and shook his hand in mid-stride.

now i wish i had asked him to take a picture with my dog. that would’ve been awesome.

by this justin on Dec 23, 2010 7:40 PM PST reply actions  

zzzz

"Don't take life so serious, son. It ain't nohow permanent."

by Orygunian on Dec 23, 2010 8:12 PM PST reply actions  

zzzz

"Don't take life so serious, son. It ain't nohow permanent."

by Orygunian on Dec 23, 2010 8:12 PM PST reply actions  

Hey, what are you trying to say?!?!

I would MUCH rather have Chip than some d-bag from the Big 10 and…ohhhhhh, I see what you did there.

by GMan83201 on Dec 23, 2010 8:16 PM PST reply actions  

Is it possible?

Can we, in reality, go back to a time when (especially) college coaches had integrity? Was there such a time, or does the concept exist entirely in my biased imagination?

Luv a Duck

by SG Dawn on Dec 23, 2010 8:41 PM PST reply actions  

Maybe the coaches didn't have any more/less integrity,

but the players had much less opportunity. NFL didn’t pay very much. The rich programs could keep huge numbers on scholarships to keep talent away from others. Don’t know how the old programs were audited, but were all on scholarships actually players?… or maybe a blue chip’s brother, uncle or friend.

Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. WWWWWWWWWWWWin The Day

by webfoot73 on Dec 23, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

so i wonder what the ratio between players gambling vs taking improper benefits has changed throughout the years.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Dec 23, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I want to see a Chip Kelly-Brett Bielema deathmatch.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller....I'd say Chip made an alright decision.

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Dec 23, 2010 9:45 PM PST reply actions  

But Tako you don't get it

Chip Kelly is one of the biggest beneficiaries of ‘Street Agents’ in college football recruiting and we all know he’s paying for his players. There’s no possible reason someone would want to come to Eugene from Texas unless their rep was being paid by Kelly and Nike.

by Matt Daddy on Dec 23, 2010 9:58 PM PST reply actions  

flagged for linking to UWDawgPound without opening a new window automatically.

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Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.

by Takimoto on Dec 23, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

flagged for not being smart enough to right click “open in new tab”

by Matt Daddy on Dec 23, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

When you link something, just hit the fucking open in new window check box, and we won’t ever have to have this argument again.

Addicted to Quack, home of Bill Musgrave, the best ever.
Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.

by Takimoto on Dec 23, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t use the box, I type the HTML code for linking. It’s faster, and I always use the open in new tab when clicking on someone’s link because I don’t know who does and who doesn’t use the open in new window button.

I’ve already learned to not trust people’s linking, maybe you should do the same and stop requiring others to post and link the way that you want them to.

by Matt Daddy on Dec 23, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Well now you’re just being selfish.

Addicted to Quack, home of Bill Musgrave, the best ever.
Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.

by Takimoto on Dec 23, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Happy Festivus??!!

Talk about airing of grievances…Okay, it’s no longer Festivus. Merry Xmas eve guys!

by pappasan.duck on Dec 24, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate you.

He was only five-foot-three but girls could not resist his stare... Chip Kelly never got called an asshole.

by qrsouther on Dec 24, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Often times, your browser will let you middle click to open in a new window.

I’ve been doing it for so long, that this sort of discussion is pretty much a foreign concept to me.

It’s spelled "J-A-Y-S-H-O-E-F-E-L-T-J-S-H-U-F-E-L-T"

by JShufelt on Dec 28, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

 Being a teacher , mentor, and a good example of moral character are attributes that elevate the quality of a coach. Look at Stoops with Arizona. He’s got anger and whining problems on the field that I believe impair his ability to do as good of a job as he can as a coach. For those of you who feel Chip Kelly is paying off players I’ll just say 3.2 million dollar locker room.

by Jake Evans on Dec 23, 2010 10:52 PM PST reply actions  

i lol’d and coffee came out of my nose onto my keyboard!

by pappasan.duck on Dec 24, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I giggle every time I read this from the RG

“By suspending Jeremiah Masoli for the 2010 season, Kelly probably destroyed the Ducks’ chances of repeating their Rose Bowl run. Pasadena feels far away, doesn’t it?”

by rckymtnduck on Dec 24, 2010 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

well, we certainly aren’t going to the Rose Bowl this year. Perhaps it did destroy it…for the better

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Dec 24, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Sarcasm, oh I get It..still not entertained

yea I get it that this board us primarily used as a clandestine inside joke vacuum filled with sarcasm and witty banter…but this “joke” of a story just doesnt do it for me…now if you attacked Canzano, even in jest or as a inside joke, I could laugh about that…:).

by TheGoldenRay on Dec 24, 2010 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

I'm sorry you're not entertained

I’m sure you’ve read this or this or even any of these and realized there was nothing there except inside jokes and witty banter. Tell you what, we’ll let you know when we get around to writing that Canzano attack for you to be entertained by. Until then feel free to spend time here

by Matt Daddy on Dec 24, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry this isn't your style.

The great thing about SB Nation blogs is that any fan can offer their input and opinion in the FanPost section. Feel free to write something of your own if you so desire. In the meantime, have a happy holiday!

Addicted to Quack, home of Bill Musgrave, the best ever.
Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.

by Takimoto on Dec 24, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I declare NEGATIVE NANCY

Welcome to Glendale, Arizona's Antique Capital

by Bill Musgrave on Dec 24, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

PICKY PETER

THAT'S RIGHT, Kenny Wheaton you did. You cut back into GREATNESS.

by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 24, 2010 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Now you've gone too far.

Welcome to Glendale, Arizona's Antique Capital

by Bill Musgrave on Dec 25, 2010 7:45 AM PST up reply actions  

More in the Kurt Cobain dept...
yea I get it that this board us primarily used as a clandestine inside joke vacuum filled with sarcasm and witty banter

I will be a pedantic, arrogant, annoying Internet person and randomly criticize something I see on the Internet, namely your post. This is, of course, what the Internet is for.

  1. “vacuum filled with sarcasm” — is either an oxymoron or a tautology or both. Or perhaps that word does not mean what you think it means?
  2. you get that it’s “primarily used as a clandestine inside joke” yet you want us to “entertain” you? If you are an insider, you will have been amused. If you are not, this board is not for your entertainment (as you have just admitted). Thus this statement is contradictory and can never be true.

Here we are now/Entertain us
I feel stupid and contagious

If you’re a friend of John Canzano, I can understand you feeling hurt. You might feel we’re being unnessarily mean to him. You might not understand why we don’t respect him, and actively dislike him as we do. If it helps, that’s exactly the experience we have, and how we feel, in response to most of his columns. You reap what you sow.

Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!

by gamedaytribe on Dec 24, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

So, if one drops a feather and a hammer...

…in a vacuum filled with sarcasm, does one hit the ground first ironically?

Heehee “clandestine inside joke.” Those are some mad Ninja-level redundancy skillz right there.

"Beavers? We ain't got no Beavers. We don't need no Beavers! I don't have to show you any stinkin' Beavers!"

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 25, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Dusting off a classic! Merry Christmas to us all!

Addicted to Quack, home of Bill Musgrave, the best ever.
Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.

by Takimoto on Dec 25, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

You get what you pay for.

"Beavers? We ain't got no Beavers. We don't need no Beavers! I don't have to show you any stinkin' Beavers!"

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 25, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

clandestine inside joke vacuum…

So it is a space entirely void of matter made out of an inside joke that is done in secrecy? And inside of this space entirely void of matter, it is filled with sarcasm and witty banter.

Well… so much for the secrecy. AtQ is the University of Oregon sect of the Illuminati, and we also saw how Kurt Cobain was assassinated on the Titanic that never sank, but was lifted by black helicopters after they help stage the moon landing which was filmed in Area 51 of which Elivs Presley is the chief administrator. He got promoted to that position after he saw through the assassination of Paul McCartney

It’s spelled "J-A-Y-S-H-O-E-F-E-L-T-J-S-H-U-F-E-L-T"

by JShufelt on Dec 28, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

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