Aliotti, This One is Up to You and the Defense
It's obvious that with two of the most prolific offenses in the country squaring up to play for the ultimate prize, they will get most of the attention. However, there is a reason for the saying, "defense wins championships." There has been a lot of talk about the comparisons between Terrelle Pryor and Cam Newton and how Oregon's defense struggled against Pryor in the Rose Bowl. It is and always will be my contention that the defense didn't lose the Rose Bowl for Oregon. Scoring 17 points instead of closer to their average of 36, missed field goal late, and costly turnovers by the offense are much more responsible for that New Year's Day loss than the defense was.
Also when you look at the Rose Bowl game statistically, Terrelle Pryor had an average to above average game (not exceptional like a lot of us remember) and their rushing game was held to its third lowest yards per carry at 3.00. The other two lower averages both resulted in a loss. Here is all I really need to say about why Oregon lost the Rose Bowl: 9/20 81 yards 0 TDs and 1 INT. That's Masoli's passing line. It was the third time in 2009 that Masoli had been held under 100 yards passing; Oregon hasn't been held under 140 yards passing all year this year. I think it's safe to say that Oregon's offense is more consistent, more well-rounded, and better prepared for this BCS game than they were for last year's game. Also, last year we were playing the #4 ranked defense in yards per play, and this year we have a better offense playing against the #48 ranked defense in yards per play.
Looking back at last year's game against Ohio State the key match up was whether Ohio State's tough highly-ranked defense would be able to slow down Oregon's highly-ranked offense. We all know how that worked out.
Looking at Oregon's most important game ever this year the key match up is going to be will Oregon tough highly-ranked defense be able to slow down Auburn's highly-ranked and award winning quarterback and offense?
Let's look at how they'll try and do this.
First, let's talk philosophy and experience. Auburn runs a very similar misdirection and spread attack to the one Oregon's defense has seen all year from their own team. This game is not going to be a clash of different offensive styles. Both teams also like to play up-tempo. One thing that Oregon's defense has exploited a number of times this year has been the opposing offense being worn down later in each half due to the number of plays they have to run. Oregon's used a line changing substitution pattern to keep guys fresh in the game. While I still think there will be an advantage in this area for Oregon, I think it will be muted due to the longer and more prevalent TV timeouts, longer break at the half and the fact that Auburn runs a similar style. As far as personnel goes, besides the QB, Auburn does not present any match-up that Oregon hasn't seen. Their WRs have decent size and speed, but are not nearly as accomplished as a team like Arizona's. They have a good young RB, but he's not the focus of their rushing attack. Their TE will be used primarily as a blocker and as a receiver in the red zone. The biggest challenge for the defense outside of "Rent-a-QB" will be their offensive line. They start 4 seniors and 1 junior and have consistently given Cam time and holes all year to work with.
One of the most integral parts of this match-up between Oregon's defense and Auburn's offense is going to come right up front and whether Oregon can put pressure on Newton to either tuck and run early or pass before he's ready.
Much was made about how Cal created a blueprint for how to slow down Oregon's offense and get pressure on Thomas by using a "cover zero." Considering Auburn runs a similar offense to Oregon, wouldn't it make sense for Oregon to use that same scheme to try and slow down Auburn?
Oregon has preferred to play a base Cover 2 most of the time this year. In a Cover 2 you have two deep safeties that split the field in half and cover deep routes and provide the support over the top. This type of defense will be beneficial to Oregon early in drives when there is still longer yardage to get a first down (1st and 10+, 2nd and 7+). Oregon will be able to keep most of the play in front of them, and then it will be up to good fundamentals, tackling and rallying to the ball to finish off the play.
Oregon will still blitz out of this Cover 2 depending on the down, distance and field position. This is where you'll see TJ3 play up on one corner while Harris will drop back and play more zone. The safeties will rotate behind the blitz to provide pass support over the top should the blitz not get there. Aliotti is going to have to use this type of defense sparingly, because he doesn't want to allow too many big plays when Auburn is in longer yardage type situations. If Aliotti disguises these blitz scenarios properly he can force Cam into more hurried throws or to make plays with his legs. Once again, I don't foresee Cam outrunning our defense as long as the fundamentals are strong in tackling and rallying to the ball. If Oregon blitzes and LBs are forced to make one-on-one tackles on Cam and they try and do it with their arms, Newton is going to be running for big yardage in this game.
Probably the most used blitz package for Oregon comes out of their Cover 1 defense. With Eddie Pleasant being switched to SS/Rover this year, it has allowed Aliotti to move Boyett into the center field safety position and bring Pleasant down closer to the line of scrimmage on a TE or Slot receiver.
In Oregon's Cover 1 blitz, Oregon will usually bring pressure off the weak side with Kenny Rowe in the LB/DE position and Casey Matthews overloading the tackle forcing the HB to decide if he can make it over in time to help pick up the blitz or trying to slip out of the backfield as a safety valve where Paysinger will be spying on him. This is also the perfect type of defense for Oregon to use against Auburn's zone read. You'll be overloading the side the RB is running into with the blitz and leaving the DE or OLB at home to make Cam read off them. Also, if Auburn tries to use their zone read play action, you still have your best center fielder in place in Boyett at Safety and Pleasant is filling in behind the blitzing LBs, and as a former LB himself he is very comfortable in this position. Expect Oregon to run this type of blitz when Auburn is in obvious running situations. Stopping Auburn early and putting them in long yardage situations (2nd and 10+, 3rd and 7+) will allow Oregon to unleash more confusing zone blitz schemes and and bring pressure from different areas that will allow Oregon playmakers to make plays.
A Cover Zero presents a whole new set of challenges for the offense, but it's also an incredibly risky defense to play. As you can see from the diagram, a Cover Zero is when both safeties (FS and SS) load the box and provide run or short pass support. This is obviously a high risk defense considering there is no deep help on the corners. In a defense like this, typically the corners will play a lot softer allowing passes underneath so as not to get burnt deep. What you do accomplish though is you bring two extra defenders down allowing either a LB (most likely Paysinger) or safety (Pleasant) to spy the QB or HB. If you get into the backfield quickly enough with your pressue from the front 4 you'll be able to shut down the run and not give the QB enough time to find an open WR. If you don't, your corners and LB's are vulnerable to a big play. Aliotti needs to test this offensive line early and the Cover Zero is a perfect defense to do that. If Auburn's o-line holds up and our corners are struggling staying with guys because Cam has too much time, Aliotti will need to abandon this defense sooner rather than later. On the other hand, if Oregon is able to create pressure out of this type of set, he can really keep the o-line off guard by mixing up the Cover Zero and Cover 1 Blitz on where the pressure is going to be coming from.
You can also blitz out of a Cover Zero and bring an extra defender than the offense can block. When you bring the blitz on the strong side like this, you'll shut down the zone read as the QB goes to read the DE, he'll still have 2 LB's to deal with and only a TE in there to block. Once again the Cover Zero blitz is an even higher risk, because if the RB gets to the weak side edge and the blocking is adequate, the play could go for lang yardage as well. Aliotti is going to have to pick and chose when to bring this "jail break" defense. A third and short, or fourth and short and needing a stop are most likely, but he's also brought the house like this a number of crucial times when the offense was expecting a more conservative type coverage during the year. This game should be no different.
So what's the best defense for Oregon to use against Auburn? The answer, all of them.
By no means do I think that Oregon is going to completely shut down Auburn's offense. As I pointed out in the beginning though, I don't think they have to. Oregon's offense is going to be better this year and Auburn's defense is not nearly as good as Ohio State's was last year. What Oregon's defense has to do is get key stops, make Auburn play longer and harder than it's ever had to, and hopefully get some big plays. The defensive play calling is going to be huge in this game.
When Auburn has a long way to go on the field and they are in 1st or 2nd and long, Oregon should vary its Cover 2 and Cover 2 blitz calls. You don't want to let Auburn score quickly. Oregon still has an advantage of depth and you want to make Auburn go the length of the field and wear their players out trying to score. This plan has worked all year for you, don't change it now.
Between the 30 yard lines, Oregon still needs to use its base Cover 2, but depending on down and distance mix in some Cover zero and Cover 1. Aliotti has shown a propensity to bring one of those types of blitzes on 3rd downs. On 3rd and long a Cover 1 blitz will force Newton to make a quick decision on the pass and still provides some support over the top. 3rd and less than 5, Aliotti is going to have to take some chances and bring a Cover Zero blitz and hope that he can force Auburn to punt more often then it would like.
Yes, that means Auburn is going to get some big plays. They're too good offensively not to. Then again, we'll be putting our defense in a position to make big plays too. Oregon's done a great job all year making big plays because Aliotti hasn't been afraid to play some high-risk high-reward scenarios. This game is no different.
If Oregon wants to win this game, Aliotti is going to have to take some calculated chances. He's going to have to put his players in position to make plays in the right situations. Oregon's offense will keep us in this game, but to win a Championship, it's up to the defense to make it happen.
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Good Read.
Thanks for this Matt Daddy. I enjoyed and rec’d it.
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by the_Duckinator on Dec 29, 2010 10:18 AM PST reply actions
Well done.
Full disclosure: I’m an Alabama grad (‘85) and my wife’s an AU fan.
Don’t know about the AZ WR corps, but here’s the short version on AU’s.
Kodi Burns: catches quick slants a lot on early downs, seemingly by design more than a QB read;
Terrell Zachery(sp?): dangerous deep if Cam rolls out under pressure, make sure someone stays with him;
Darvin Adams: 3rd down possession guy who will take the ball away — he’s their Alshon Jeffery; and
TE Lutzenkirchenjingleheimerschmidt: never ever leave this guy alone, or Cam will find him; big target, sure hands.
I can’t recall them throwing to the RBs very much, if at all.
The Ducks could learn a lot from the AU-LSU game; ie, don’t crash the ends, it only gives Cam wide open lanes to run.
Or the Alabama game — we showed both how to succeed and how to fail against Auburn, in the same game! Our D approach was similar to stopping Tebow/FL: contain; cover; tackle; make the QB use his brain 1st, not his feet. AU makes great adjustments, though, and their O starts clicking as the game goes on; that’s where the Ducks must find a way to make a stop or takeaway, and most crucially of all, the Oregon offense must keep scoring TDs. Settling for FGs means defeat.
Oh, and “Rent-a-QB”? What’s that sound from the Plains…? “BLASPHEMER! ALL HAIL CAM! ALL HAIL CAM!”
Thanks for the details
I agree on not crashing the ends. Oregon really hasn’t done that a lot when facing a zone read or spread offense, instead they try to bring the pressure up the middle and force you to try and beat them to the edges against our speed. Honestly, I’m not too worried about Auburn beating Oregon on the edges, I’m more concerned that Auburn pounds away up the middle and gets into a lot of short yardage situations. I do like the idea of using certain blitz packages to keep Auburn’s o-line off balance.
I think Oregon has the depth and talent to win the offense vs defense match up but play calling is going to be a big part.
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by Matt Daddy on Dec 29, 2010 11:01 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I am so sick of hearing how Pryor tore us up last year and thus we should be terrified because Newton is better
Sure, he had a good game, but didn’t tOSU only score 26 points? The issue wasn’t stopping Pryor, the issue was that our offense couldn’t do anything the Buckeye defense, both from the talent of tOSU and just shooting ourselves in the foot.
Newton will get his. There is no question about that. I’m guessing he scores around 4 TDs (I say 3 passing and 1 rushing). A great game by any measure. But that’s only 28 points. Yes, defense wins championships, but in order to win this championship we need to get the OFFENSE going.
I relish
The opportunity that our D has here. All year long we’ve heard about our soft defense, when in reality I believe it has been the difference in wins and losses. Thankfully, they will have an opportunity on the largest imaginable stage to go out there and get it done.
Couldn't agree more
I really don’t think our offense lets us down in this one. Oregon has played 4 defenses better than Auburn and averaged 39 points in those games. Auburn’s defense is comparable to USC talent wise.
This match up is going to come down to Auburn’s offense, and more specifically Cam, against Oregon’s defense. I would love to see Cam have an average to above average game with their rushing attack being held down like the Rose Bowl from last year
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by Matt Daddy on Dec 29, 2010 11:22 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
the number one thing we can do to not STOP, but maybe slow Cam a bit
is to take away their other running options; make it so that a running play has to to come from Newton to be successful. Try to beat him up a little bit.
Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.
--George Carlin
Not to hate or anything...
It’s a well-written entry, content-wise, but you really needed some editing there, MattDaddy.
Most egregious example: “propensity”
Found here: "Aliotti has shown a perpensity to bring one of those types of blitzes "
"It’s great with these group of guys. There is no panic in them." --Chip Kelly, Clearly NOT talking about members of ATQ.
Thanks, when I get to a spot where I can edit it I will.
You guys are my editors, so when you see these things feel free to point them out.
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by Matt Daddy on Dec 29, 2010 11:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Great post, MD, and very cool play diagrams!
However, since you asked for editing corrections, here are what I spotted during my quick read:
and their rushing game was held to it’s third lowest yards
Should be “its” (possessive)
Here is all I really need to say about why Oregon lost the Rose Bowl; 9/20 81 yards 0 TDs and 1 INT
Instead of the semi-colon, you need a colon or a dash, or perhaps even a comma (but the semi-colon here is wrong)
If you take a step back and look at Oregon’s most important game last year what you will see was the key match up was whether Ohio State’s tough highly ranked defense would be able to slow down Oregon’s highly ranked offense
Awkward. How about “In last year’s game against Ohio State, the key match-up, on closer examination, was Ohio State’s tough, highly-ranked defense versus Oregon’s highly-ranked offense.” Or “…was whether Ohio State’s tough, highly-ranked defense could slow down Oregon’s highly-ranked offense.”
Auburn runs a very similar misdirection and spread attack that Oregon’s defense has seen all year from their own team.
“Auburn runs a very similar misdirection and spreak attack to the one Oregon’s defense has seen all year from their own team.” (similar : to)
up tempo
up-tempo
beasty QB
beastly?
Auburn does not present any match up that Oregon hasn’t seen all year
“…that Oregon hasn’t seen.” (lose the all year)
parts of this match up
match-up
I don’t foresee Cam out running our defense
outrunning
and Casey Matthews over loading the tackle
overloading
LB’s to deal with and only a TE
LBs (plural, not possesive)
Oregon should vary it’s Cover 2 and Cover 2 blitz calls
its (possesive, not a contraction)
Between the 30 yard lines, Oregon still needs to use it’s base Cover 2
its (possesive, not a contraction)
Aliotti has shown a perpensity to bring
propensity
afraid to play some high risk high reward scenarios
high-risk, high-reward (or at least high risk, high reward)
like this a couple of times at crucial times when
awkward — how about “…couple of times when it was crucial…” or “…couple of crucial moments when…”
(sorry about the length, wanted to format it clearly)
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Dec 29, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
You have been banned from Bruins Nation for suggesting proofreading on Addicted to Quack.
Don’t ask me how that works…
To get punished by the NCAA nowadays, especially if you’re at a major school, you have to be monumentally stupid. -ReadingRambler
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 29, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd
lololololol.
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by the_Duckinator on Dec 29, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, hooked on phonics in reverse, man!
Like “djeetchet?” You know, “did you eat yet?”
"Beavers? We ain't got no Beavers. We don't need no Beavers! I don't have to show you any stinkin' Beavers!"
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 29, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Had a friend from Alabama who said his grandpa would always yell at him and his friends:
“NYONG AN YONG HYAH”
It took him until he was 13 to realize we was saying “Y’all get outta here!”
THAT'S RIGHT, Kenny Wheaton you did. You cut back into GREATNESS.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 29, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
It seems to me...
…that we brought a lot of pressure off the edge in the first half of games and switched to inside blitzes in the second half. I really attribute the Casey Matthews hit on Katz on the first play of the Civil War to us bucking that trend. Quizz stepped up to block the blitz but went too wide and barely touched Casey coming inside on him.
I know many long suffering Ducks fans will agree that our attacking style of defense in the last two years has been much more fun to watch than the bend-don’t-break approach in years past. Fortunately we have the speed and depth on defense to play more aggressive than other seasons.
GO DUCKS!
Pryor and the RB
Rewatched it again recently. Pryor got away with a ridiculous amount of prayer passes on broken plays. His “career passing day” was largely the result of heaving the ball up for grabs while being pressured and getting away with it. 19-17 halfway through the 4th quarter = a job well done by the D, but a sub-par job by the O. Heck, giving up only 26 on most days usually means a guaranteed win these last few years. Exceptions: fBSU and tOSU.
"Beavers? We ain't got no Beavers. We don't need no Beavers! I don't have to show you any stinkin' Beavers!"
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 29, 2010 11:32 AM PST reply actions
Yeah that's what I remember
A ridiculous number of times where Pryor managed to get away and complete a pass when he shouldn’t have been able to. That … and the Blount fumble. Oy, it still hurts. One of these days we need to win the Rose Bowl. But I’ll be happy with a national championship for now.
by IslanderDuck on Dec 29, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Brandon Bair hands to the face
I credit my urine for the victory.
by mackjones23 on Dec 29, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Well, the Blount fumble was harsh.
But, like fBSU, the Bucks sold everything out to stop the run as much as possible and force Masoli to win with his arm, which was his weakness.
"Beavers? We ain't got no Beavers. We don't need no Beavers! I don't have to show you any stinkin' Beavers!"
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 29, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
In a nutshell, tOSU "Aliotti'd" us.
Like the Ducks against CU in the Fiesta, they sold out to stop the run and forced us to try to win on Masoli’s arm.
"Beavers? We ain't got no Beavers. We don't need no Beavers! I don't have to show you any stinkin' Beavers!"
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 29, 2010 11:46 AM PST reply actions
To me, one of the biggest reasons the Duck defense didn't hold up against Pryor's passing arm
was the absence of Walter Thurmond III. Missing your best corner will do you no favors against any offense, especially the opportunistic Ohio State offense (which benefited significantly from a defense that absolutely feasted on turnovers).
I don’t think Auburn’s defense is anything close to Ohio State’s defense, and if Darron Thomas, Barner, and LMJ lay waste to Auburn’s defense, the Ducks are going to be in great position for a win.
To get punished by the NCAA nowadays, especially if you’re at a major school, you have to be monumentally stupid. -ReadingRambler
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 29, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions
Agreed
I keep thinking that we really need Cliff Harris NOT to have a bonehead game (bonehead defined for this purpose as fumbled returns and blown coverages), although I realize I might be over emphasizing the importance of this in my own mind. Likely, we need NO ONE to have a bonehead game to win this thing.
Well, you’ve correctly ID’d the guy who is most likely to have a bonehead game yet still be in there because of his incredible talent. The Arizona game comes to mind.
by IslanderDuck on Dec 29, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Thomas’ performance in the passing game is what I’m most concerned about. He showed some inconsistency late in the season, especially in the Cal game where he had open receivers and just missed them. Of course, the O-Line wasn’t doing him many favors in pass protection either.
I do think the defense needs to step up and get a couple of stops. I’d just like to see our offense come out firing on all cylinders and not wait until the second half in this one. Otherwise I’m going to be a wreck.
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Rent-A-QB?
classy
It’s tough to come over here and talk football in a mature way after reading that…..
Enjoy the New Year. It should be a great game. Good luck.
I would recommend to grow some thicker skin. It’s a joke – or was Cam Newton NOT solicited for money?
It’s spelled "J-A-Y-S-H-O-E-F-E-L-T-J-S-H-U-F-E-L-T"
Actually, Cam was not solicited at all.
His father was. The details of the whole thing are not completely public and likely never will be. I’m not so naive as to believe that Cam had absolutely no knowledge of what was going on, but to say he was being shopped by his father is inaccurate with the facts that are out there at this point. It is also wrong to assume that he had his hand out not knowing this for a fact. I know that the media machine that is ESPN made it their mission to make it look that way, but that doesn’t make it so. After hearing all of the crap from the media and opposing fans the past couple months, I apologize if I am a bit sensitive about the subject. Especially when the whole Rent-A-QB thing implies that Auburn had anything to do with offering or paying him any money to play QB at our university.
While I don’t think Matt Daddy’s comment out of line in this forum, I can certainly respect your feelings on this. It bothers me when people portray LaMichael James as some sort of thug because of the incident he was involved in during the offseason. He’s not in the slightest, and I hate seeing people question his integrity because I think he’s a very impressive young man. So I get where you are coming from, and personally, I have suspended any judgement about Cam Newton. I don’t know any of the insider details and I’m just glad he’s clear to play on Jan. 10!
thanks daisy!
I’m looking forward to seeing two of the most dynamic offensive players in each of their respective schools history go at it in Glendale!
Good luck to you guys!
Cam was solicited. He just wasn’t the solicitor.
I’ve been one of the Cam defenders here. I just think some jokes are okay. I don’t think “Rent-A-QB” is a slight to Cam, as it is to the situation, which I view to be open public ridicule.
It’s spelled "J-A-Y-S-H-O-E-F-E-L-T-J-S-H-U-F-E-L-T"
Actually, in a way I agree.
I think it was a great documentation of Oregon’s schemes on defense and a pragmatic take on what Oregon could do to slow Cam Newton and the Auburn offense, but I have to agree in part with dzer13.
I know it’s a joke, and it’s amusing, but when you do such a marvelous, intelligent write-up on the intricacies of defense, it undermines your point a bit to throw in a barb like that at Newton. We all have our reservations about him, but I think it hurt your piece’s overall quality and impression.
Just my $.02. Not to be too critical, because you clearly know what you’re talking about way better than I do.
He was only five-foot-three but girls could not resist his stare... Chip Kelly never got called an asshole.
I agree with what you're saying
But you need humor to lighten up these long factual posts…Its just a joke and doesn’t lower the quality of information provided elsewhere.
Blah.
If there’s anything worse than a person who has no sense of humor, it’s a person who browses into the forum of the opposing team’s fans and whining when there’s the slightest jab about his team and making snap judgments about how “It’s tough to come over here and talk football in a mature way after reading that…..” Really? Is that the only thing you took out of that well-presented, well-though-out, high quality post? Try us, ’barner. Grow a sack and stop being so freaking sensitive.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 29, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Wow, okay. Excuse me, and sorry.
He was only five-foot-three but girls could not resist his stare... Chip Kelly never got called an asshole.
I would agree with you if this was a neutral sports site and MD presented himself as a neutral reporter. However this is a Oregon fan site for which MD is a mod and an unabashed Duck fan. It’s absolutely fine in this forum, especially as it was just a small little jab at our next opponent, and in no way a giant slam. Cripes, we’ve all called Jake Locker things on this site that I’d be embarrassed for my mother to hear.
Boo. Have some fun. It was a joke. It in no way undermines the intelligence of the rest of the piece and in no way hinders us from having a discussion with Auburn fans, as long as those fans have even a small sense of humor.
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No no, I get it. I'm just saying that it, to me, undermines it just a bit as a reader. It must be just my taste.
He was only five-foot-three but girls could not resist his stare... Chip Kelly never got called an asshole.
FWIW
I agree with you. Matt Daddy did a thorough, professional, job with this whole piece, and the “Rent-a-QB” seemed out of place to me. It didn’t hurt my poor little feelers, and I think Cam is guilty as sin even if the NCAA can’t prove it. I just think it was different from the rest of the article’s tone, and yes, undermined its credibility just a tiny tiny bit.
AS IF MATT DADDY HAD ANY CREDIBILITY TO BEGIN WITH, HARDY HAR HAR HAR.
In summary, INTERNET ARGUMENT GRUMBLE GRUMBLE GRUMBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE.
THAT'S RIGHT, Kenny Wheaton you did. You cut back into GREATNESS.
by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 29, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, that's all.
It’s not that it offended me or anything, I just thought it was kind of irrelevant and random. If I could write as well as Matt does, I would utilize it differently. That’s all from me.
He was only five-foot-three but girls could not resist his stare... Chip Kelly never got called an asshole.
Of course I’ve never met you, and perhaps you are a total teenage goofball in real life, but I am sometimes struck by what a serious young man you seem to be. Sometimes I just want to say “Laugh! Yuck it up! Plenty of time to be serious later!” That being said, I am always very impressed about how you will stand up for your convinctions, and always in a very articulate, tactful manner. That’s not always easy to do in this crowd, and I’m betting you are going to go far in life. So good for you! (But laugh! Yuck it up sometimes!)
His sbnation screen name
Used to be ‘butthol,’ so Quinn wasn’t always this serious, apparently.
by scudderfan on Dec 29, 2010 6:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hey, are we piling on?
I was hoping we could pile on.
"It’s great with these group of guys. There is no panic in them." --Chip Kelly, Clearly NOT talking about members of ATQ.
I still won't believe that's all that happened with solicitation until the NCAA closes the case.
Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.
--George Carlin
The NCAA won't close the case for half a decade, with their track record...
To get punished by the NCAA nowadays, especially if you’re at a major school, you have to be monumentally stupid. -ReadingRambler
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 29, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
I get what you all are saying, but
1. This is a blog post and not a mainstream news article where the author should attempt to appear unbiased. So unfortunately for some Auburn fans youre going to have to deal with put shots at your QB who was auctioned off by his father like he was an eBay item.
2. I get paid as much to write these posts as you pay to read them. So of I want to take a little shot at my teams upcoming opponent, it’s most likely not going to lose me any pay, award or recognition.
3. Cam Newton was auctioned off like a rent-a-QB. I didn’t call him a cheater or murderer out make anything up.
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by Matt Daddy on Dec 29, 2010 2:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
4. Mobile posting adds lots of grammatical errors
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by Matt Daddy on Dec 29, 2010 2:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Your first 2 points are valid and very much respected.
- is incorrect
I expressed above why I am so sensitive about the subject.
I did read your entire post and thought it was a good look into several scenarios that will likely come up on January 10th.
Nice job, and as I said before, good luck!
Thanks dzer13, I appreciate your willingness to be open about your sensitivities and why. Hopefully you are able to look beyond the good natured ribbing and see the post for what it really is
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by Matt Daddy on Dec 29, 2010 2:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Awwwww....
is it time to sing Kumbaya now??? :D
"The only proven shortcut to success is hard work." - Chip Kelly
by the_Duckinator on Dec 29, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
YES!!
Can we go throw some meat on Vegans now? There are plenty in Oregon.
by SeattleDucks on Dec 29, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know man
Cam’s dad did admit to trying to get cash under the table from Miss St. That seems like pretty good proof of what was going on. I can see your point that it wasn’t proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Cam’s dad actually held an ebay auction with Auburn winning the right to rent Cam for the season, but the smoke is pretty thick for that fire to not be there.
Oh, and the “i didn’t know” defense in college football never worked before, not sure why it seems to be working for Cam and the Ohio St players this year.
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Totally agree. I’m all for not burying someone prematurely, but there are enough circumstantial facts here that you can easily tie things together. Hell, I’ve seen people get convicted of murder on Discovery ID with less evidence than we have in this case.
This whole thing reminds me of the steroids thing in baseball. After it blew up a few years back, all the baseball writers said something like, “we saw things happening all around us and everyone kind of knew it was happening, but nobody really went after it. In hindsight we were all kind of complicit I guess because didn’t do anything about it.” In this case, everyone is saying, “well there’s no video of the briefcase being handed to Cecil, so until that happens we have to presume innocence.” In my opinion, he was presumed innocent when I read the first story. Then as more and more circumstantial stuff came out, I started to go with the smoke/fire thought process. Then when his dad admitted to shopping him, the presumption of innocence, in my mind, was gone. We’re not talking about sending him to jail…this isn’t a court of law.
We know that he was shopped to Miss St for $180k. We know that he really, really wanted to play for Dan Mullen at Miss St. We know that Miss St wouldn’t pay him. Knowing this, as admitted by all parties involved, I’m to believe that he went to Auburn for free? If his dad was shopping him, and they found out through the shopping process that nobody was paying, why wouldn’t he go to Miss St and play where he admittedly really wanted to go?
I know all kinds of holes will get poked in this, and people will say that “in this country you have to be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt”…to be found guilty of a crime in a court of law. This whole thing just stinks like hell, and it sucks that our first trip to the NCG is going to be tainted, either way, 5 years from now when the truth finally comes to light.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 29, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
oorah!
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by dvieira on Dec 29, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Thad Matta is most pleased.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 29, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Great analysis MD.
I like the idea of running a cover zero as our base defense with Paysinger or Kaddu spying Newton. Let’s see if he can beat us with his short and mid-range passing game.
Once again, great job Matt.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller....I'd say Chip made an alright decision.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Dec 29, 2010 2:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I think we have to have a cover one (boyett) most of the time
Especially if they move Cam and the pocket around a bunch, the corners need someone over the top to help.
Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.
--George Carlin
Help me out here?
3-4 vs 4-3 against the spread seems to be the way to go so are we not going to be seeing that as the primary base?
btw – great read MD!
Hoover: They confiscated everything, even the stuff we didn't steal!
What specifically do you mean?
Are you saying that we won’t see Oregon in a base 3-4? Or in a base 4-3?
I think Oregon will continue to play their hybrid 3-4 zone blitz defense and I also think it’s the best defense to attack a spread option attack like Oregon’s or Auburn. It puts an extra speed guy on the field by taking and using a Kenny Rowe type player instead of an extra Brandon Bair type player. Now the hybrid 3-4 is definitely vulnerable up the middle to a power rush game which is why Oregon counters that by 1) playing up tempo on offense and making the opposing offense try to keep up scoring wise which is hard to do with a power rushing game up the middle and 2) by bringing a lot of pressure up the middle from the LBs and doing a lot of stunts with the down lineman.
Cal did a good job of this against Oregon as well as playing their cover zero, and I think Oregon will do a lot of those same things against Auburn.
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Thanks Matt, I think the images threw me off a bit but in reading again see that you’re covering the hybrid piece within that. My biggest fear is up the middle with Cam behind a blocking RB but am hoping our LBs speed will counter this.
Once again great job on the write up!
Hoover: They confiscated everything, even the stuff we didn't steal!
I had a dream last night that Auburn beat Oregon 105-101. Hahaha, anyway, GO DUCKS!
by ireallylikejerrydbayless on Dec 29, 2010 3:32 PM PST reply actions
I had a dream Wisconsin lost the Indiana game O_o
turns out the last time that happened was 2002. And Wisconsin would roll IU 83-20.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 29, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
I had a dream too
The Ducks lost the season opener to IU…. wait. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! that happened in real life not a dream.
"The only proven shortcut to success is hard work." - Chip Kelly
by the_Duckinator on Dec 29, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Clearly you need happier memories...
Huard gonna go back to throw the ball…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 29, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Sets up, looks, throws to the corner of the endzone...
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 29, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
It is... INTERCEPTED!! INTERCEPTED!! The Ducks have the ball!
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by Bill Musgrave on Dec 29, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Down to the 35, the 40!
To get punished by the NCAA nowadays, especially if you’re at a major school, you have to be monumentally stupid. -ReadingRambler
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 29, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 29, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Touchdooowwwwn! Touchdoooowwwwwwnnnnnnn!
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Dec 29, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
Kenny Wheaton! He did great things! Boy this this the greatest ending to a game ever!!!!
I just liked how that was off, but in the right spirit.
Also Obrien, you are not supposed to supply every comment in a Kenny Wheaton thread, and not two in a row. It’s in the rules. Very, very, very important. Very.
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by Bill Musgrave on Dec 29, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Grrrrr, but Bill, disrupting a Wheaton wave is a nono, too!
My transcript, because I’m too lazy to dig up that official FAQ post on the Wheaton Wave at ATQ.
Huard’s gonna go back to throw the ball
Sets up, looks, throws toward the corner of the endzone
And it’s intercepted, intercepted!
The ducks have the ball!
Down to the 35, the 40…
Kenny wheaton’s gonna score!
Kenny wheaton’s gonna score!
Touchdooowwwwn! Touchdoooowwwwwwnnnnnnn!
Kenny Wheaton on the interception!
The most improbable finish to a football game!!!!!!!!
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Dec 29, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
Actually he didn't
He appropriately finished the wave while at the same time he didn’t make a double post in the wave, thus abiding by two different and important Wheaton Wave FAQs.
Here’s how that worked:
Wheaton Wave Original:
Kenny Wheaton on the interception!
Bill:
Kenny Wheaton! He did great things!
Wheaton Wave Original:
The most improbable finish to a football game!!!!!!!!
Bill:
Boy this [is] the greatest ending to a game ever!!!!
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He's right.
I supplied AND rec’d 4 out of every 20 Wheaton Waves.
Wait, WHAT?
To get punished by the NCAA nowadays, especially if you’re at a major school, you have to be monumentally stupid. -ReadingRambler
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 29, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Any investigation into Mr. Musgrave's actions is moot.
gamedaytribe skipped the second KENNY WHEATON’S GONNA SCORE! and knocked the wave off its axis before Bill even commented. The defense rests.
Refer here for the official transcript.
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technicalities! technicalities!
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by gamedaytribe on Dec 29, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
...
You have been banned from BruinsNation for skipping the second KENNY WHEATON’S GONNA SCORE!
Because they care, even if you don’t.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 30, 2010 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
Don't forget "20! The Ten!".
Those yard lines would never forgive us if we did.
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by Bill Musgrave on Dec 30, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
Oh no
did gdt just bring the wrath of Juju on the Ducks between the 20 and 10 yard lines? No problem. They’ll score from beyond the redzone.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Dec 30, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
juju will make allowances for the senile idiots amongst us
I hope…
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by gamedaytribe on Dec 31, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
I literally had a dream a few days back as well...
Oregon was up 38-0 early in the 3rd quarter against Auburn. the dream only lasted a few seconds and it had no conclusion. I think this dream, combined with not having cable or satellite, is why I likely won’t be watching the big game. I’m almost afraid to watch.
combined with not having cable or satellite
It won’t be hard to find an online stream for this game. May not be technically legal, but it won’t be hard.
--Dave
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Lol, and this wasn't even my first dream about the Ducks this month either!
I’ve had like 3 before this one with more realistic scores! I think I’m hyped and my subconscious knows it.
by ireallylikejerrydbayless on Dec 29, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
The question: how bad does the Big 12 suck???
Boy, they are having the type of bowl season we did last week. Of course, I expect okie state to win but AZ will be tough. They should get wins over the Fuckies and UCONN though.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Well AZ is coming out flat...
Foles is throwing the ball like crap and one stupid turnover.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
That helmet to helmet by OSU on the receiver was ridiculous. I want to see players ejected for doing that… no warning. That was no accident. The defender lined the receiver up, dropped his head, and whacked him.
by encephalopath on Dec 29, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
Loved how the coach high fived him - what a tool!
Hoover: They confiscated everything, even the stuff we didn't steal!
At least he didn’t gather the entire team together and start jumping up and down on the field while the player was laying there… oh wait, that’s what Stoops did.
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Hmm that reminds me of something....
Hoover: They confiscated everything, even the stuff we didn't steal!
As my late granpa loved to say...
they are walking all over their dicks.
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I will occupy the bottom of the comment string to say great post Matt.
I would so much rather read you guys than any freaking newspaper or trumped up ESPN article, so much more information here.
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This is a statement of geometry and geography, people. Get your minds out of the gutter.
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by gamedaytribe on Dec 29, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
Now you're just fishing for comment-pliments.
I meant it you fucking idiot.
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by Bill Musgrave on Dec 29, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
Breaking Down Defenses
Great writeup. I wondered if anyone has compared offensive vs. defensive averages yet. If you took every team’s offensive average (scoring, passing, rushing, and total yards) and compared it to the one game they played against Auburn, what would you see? Do they allow less rushing and more passing, on average? Do they hold people at or below their season averages?
Probably best to do only the Division I competition and leave out the Portland State’s of the world. I’d look it up, but I’m getting ready for a gig tonight and I’m not half as good at the stat stuff as the rest of you guys. :)
Awesome!
I think it would be an interesting comparison to see how many yards or percentage points people went above or below their average. If I had the time I’d even do the same for the Ducks, to look at how both defenses look compared to the other team’s average in scoring, passing, rushing, and total yards.
I've compiled most of these numbers already
Oregon Vs. Auburn
Pts scored 592 vs 555
Pts against 221 vs 318
Yards 6450 vs 6470
yards against 3979 vs 4708
TOP 335:18 vs. 348:12
What this tells me: Oregon is very much superior on Offense and Defense.
Chew on this tidbit: Oregon has scored 37 more points and given up 97 fewer points than Auburn in one less game and over 12 minutes more over the course of the season where Oregon’s Defense was out on the field.
Think about that, Oregon’s had the ball less scored more and given up less than Auburn this season.
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by Quack Addict on Dec 30, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
P.S
I have this in spreadsheet form. If anyone would like it send me a message.
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by Quack Addict on Dec 30, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions

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