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Quack Fix: the conference's top recruiters and the expectations for the 2010 baseball team

Not a lot out there this morning.  Good thing we have a Tako Tuesday to cover for the lack of quack. 

As always, leave your comments, thoughts, and links below.  Go Ducks!

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HeismanPundit.com has Seastrunk tabbed as a potential Heisman contender from the 2010 recruiting class.

by ntrebon on Feb 9, 2010 6:43 AM PST reply actions  

trunpetduck?

anyway i’d believe the Seastrunk thing

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 7:13 AM PST reply actions  

Hmm it appears everyone's working today.

so i’ll post the requisite conversation starter:
Since the most recent Super Bowl passed the M.A.S.H. finale for most-watched show of all time, here’s your question….What is your favorite T.V. show that is no longer on the air?

My vote goes to CatDog.

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 9:03 AM PST reply actions  

Northern Exposure.

I'm going to the beach to bury metal objects that I've written "Get a Life" on.
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by Matt Daddy on Feb 9, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

wth is Northern Exposure?

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Great show. I was 3 when it first came on the air, so it’s not surprising you haven’t heard of it. It’s worth renting the DVDs though.

It's spelled "R-E-D-V-I-N-E-S"

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

The Wire, and it’s not even close.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Feb 9, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh god damnit, you’re right. I’m changing my choice, Freaks & Geeks is second.

It's spelled "R-E-D-V-I-N-E-S"

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. Best show ever on TV.

by MurphyLPiddleton on Feb 9, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

The Wire is a fantastic show. It was just too depressing to be number one on my list. Probably the best acted/written/directed drama I’ve ever seen, but man, was it hard to watch sometimes.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Rented the wire from Netflix on advice from jtlight, have to say I am starting to get hooked. Not there yet, just finished season 1…

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by Matt Daddy on Feb 9, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh baby. Season 3-4 are just about the best TV you’ll ever see.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Feb 9, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you just call Matt Daddy, “baby”?

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-N-O-B-A-L-L-S"

by JShufelt on Feb 9, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Season 3 was my favorite, season 4 is heartbreakingly awesome.

by MurphyLPiddleton on Feb 9, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Deadwood was really good.

It was thought that the "Hanger" beat all shots. Then, the "Balancer" was discovered.

by Wristy on Feb 9, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

It's spelled "R-E-D-V-I-N-E-S"

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I really like Deadwood too, and I’m excited to see Timothy Olyphant on that new series “Justified.” It seems like he just goes around hurting people, which is great!

by MurphyLPiddleton on Feb 9, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Freaks & Geeks

It's spelled "R-E-D-V-I-N-E-S"

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Freaks & Geeks was a great show.

by ntrebon on Feb 9, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

The Huntley-Brinkley Report.

everything is history, eventually.

by benzduck on Feb 9, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

new rule

all random shows must have short explanation

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Get older.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-N-O-B-A-L-L-S"

by JShufelt on Feb 9, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Or learn how to use internet searches.

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by jtlight on Feb 9, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

You wish you had a giant piece.

It's spelled "R-E-D-V-I-N-E-S"

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

your girlfriend wishes the same of you.

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you just throw out an “I know you are but what am I?”

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-N-O-B-A-L-L-S"

by JShufelt on Feb 9, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

remember what you said 6 posts up
Get older.

It still applies.

I Don't Yell O I SCREAM!

by trumpetduck on Feb 9, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

So let me get this straight:

You can’t surf the internet to find out about old shows because you’re too busy with newspaper. And yet here you are, clearly surfing the internet, complaining about not being able to surf the internet.

If I was a robot, the paradox would have exploded my logic processors.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Just consider the source. It will all become clear.

everything is history, eventually.

by benzduck on Feb 9, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Or this one.

Skip forward to 2:20.. the Manson trial as it happened, followed by a story about crash pads in Berkeley.

Those damn hippies.

everything is history, eventually.

by benzduck on Feb 9, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Sports Night

Loved that show.

Freaks and Geeks is a very close second.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

In 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit.

These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.

Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)

by AllSaintsDay on Feb 9, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

dum dum ta dum duuuuuuuuum!!!!

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by Matt Daddy on Feb 9, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

dum dum-dum-dum dum

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

SCTV.

Not even close.

everything is history, eventually.

by benzduck on Feb 9, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll bite...(does it count if it's still in syndication?)

80’s – You Can’t Do That On Television. Why? I don’t know! (cue green slime on my head)
90’s – SNL (Yes, I know its still on the air, but the cast blows and its pretty much not watchable = off the air)
00’s – Boston Legal. Julie Bowen = Yummy. Like, Red Vines, yummy.

May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...

by 071903 on Feb 9, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

ew.

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Ew?

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-N-O-B-A-L-L-S"

by JShufelt on Feb 9, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It's spelled "R-E-D-V-I-N-E-S"

I support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Your taco has too much lettuce

/may be a euphemism; you’ll never know

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

100% agreed.

I really want to write a Tako Tuesdays about Mexican food now.

LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Josh Huff + Keanon Lowe + Remene Alston +...

by CaDuck on Feb 9, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but if you do, you better not get all snobby and uppity about it. As Southern Californians, it’s certainly our privilege to tout the excellent Mexican food here. And we should definitely deride such Northwest creations as “Mexi-nuggets.”

But any insults to Del Taco will NOT be tolerated. Gourmet? Heck no, but tasty and cheap, especially at 1 AM.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course us Southern Californians embrace our Mexican food snobbery, and yes, of course, there would be relentless Del Taco bashing.

I don’t know what a “Mexi-nugget” is. But if I did, it would make me want to cry tears of despair.

LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Josh Huff + Keanon Lowe + Remene Alston +...

by CaDuck on Feb 9, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Your snobbery makes me cry tears of despair. Del Taco is amazing and nothing you can say will change that.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Del Taco sucks.

I understand what you are saying about rolling in at about 1 a.m, most likely inebriated. But that does not mean that the “food” is tolerable, let alone amazing.

LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Josh Huff + Keanon Lowe + Remene Alston +...

by CaDuck on Feb 9, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

This debate is sad.

Mexican food in Texas, both interior Mexican and TexMex, is betta.

s-panic = σ – ⅓ (σx+σy+σz) I­­­­­­­­

by Bill Musgrave on Feb 9, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Awww hell no son.

LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Josh Huff + Keanon Lowe + Remene Alston +...

by CaDuck on Feb 9, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Aieee dios mio, si.

Fixed.

s-panic = σ – ⅓ (σx+σy+σz) I­­­­­­­­

by Bill Musgrave on Feb 9, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

There is nothing finer than a nice Ensenada Carne Asada Torta.

LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Josh Huff + Keanon Lowe + Remene Alston +...

by CaDuck on Feb 9, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

whoa, there

I live in Woodburn. We’re like 80% Mexican. I know what Mexican food is.

--Dave
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by David Piper on Feb 9, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

There's definitely good Mexican in Oregon

It’s just harder to find. I can’t say that I ever had the pleasure of eating in Woodburn.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

not surprising

not much of a reason to come here. But we have some great little Mexican restaurants in El Centro.

--Dave
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by David Piper on Feb 9, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

i don't know if we really have anything in eugene

Los Dos Amigos is pretty good. So is Chapalas.

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Chapala?

Go to Las Brasas on fifth and Blair or the spanish supermarket on sixth in the same area. If you think Chapala is good, these two will change that. If you need a map, ask Tako.

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by Wristy on Feb 10, 2010 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

There is an "El Centro" in Oregon?

LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Josh Huff + Keanon Lowe + Remene Alston +...

by CaDuck on Feb 9, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

There are a few pockets of Mexican communities throughout the state. Even a little bit in Eugene. I tutored a couple years at Centro Latino Americano while I went to school.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT

!!!!!!!!!!!!

wants to challenge the definitions of sin and search the world for lovers of ultimate beauty but never settle in.

by joffthedeckk on Feb 9, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

newsradio. first 4 seasons, then phil hartman got killed and it went to shit.

by thuginator on Feb 9, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I’ll give a rec for NewsRadio.

by ntrebon on Feb 9, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved News Radio. I can’t say I even knew it was still around once Hartman died. I must have just stopped watching.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

For me, it’s the West Wing, hands down.

In the interest of full disclosure, I’ve never seen The Wire, and many of my closest friends who adore the West Wing say that The Wire is as good, if not better.

The "O" stands for "Oh dear god, when does football season start again?"

by ProbablyMonty on Feb 9, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Trailer Park Boys

Those Canucks are effin funny eh.

"When LaMichael James decides he's going North. The foot goes in the ground and it's 0 to 60 now!" Jesse Palmer.

by Jayon on Feb 9, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't believe I almost forgot this...

Soprano’s.

Best mafia show running for over 7 years.

It's spelled "M-A-T-T-H-O-O-S-I-E-R-D-A-D-D-Y"
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by Matt Daddy on Feb 11, 2010 12:40 AM PST up reply actions  

meh. Try watching one now. They’re all over the youtubes.

I can’t believe I ever thought it was funny, Williams or no Williams.

everything is history, eventually.

by benzduck on Feb 9, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Mr. Ed

Greatest sit-com ever

by QuackinAK on Feb 9, 2010 9:47 AM PST reply actions  

heisman

Who is more likely to win the Heisman Trophy this upcoming season: Masoli or LMJ?

by westspec on Feb 9, 2010 9:57 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

LMJ. Masoli is just too inconsistent.

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by jtlight on Feb 9, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Besides, we've had three sophmores in a row win it

He’d be the fourth.

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by skywaker9 on Feb 9, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

But if Masoli finds his consistency

a la Dennis Dixon… I think he has a great chance, but consistency is the key.

by QuackinAK on Feb 9, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

It all depends on the team record too

We go undefeated, one of them has a very good chance of winning.

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by skywaker9 on Feb 9, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

As much as I love Masoli, he’s just not on the same level talent wise as Dixon. I fear that Masoli’s consistency issues are not mental issues (like Dixon in 2006), but physical issues.

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by jtlight on Feb 9, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree

Dixon was absolutely more talented but he was not as intelligent til his senior year.

Dixon’s deep ball is far better than Masoli.

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by skywaker9 on Feb 9, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

It would have been fun to see more than one year of the Dixon/Chip Kelly combo.

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by jtlight on Feb 9, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn you Bellotti for burning Dixon’s redshirt!

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Dixon threw such a nice ball. He had great touch. Masoli has periods where he looks smooth, but you can really tell when he’s fighting it, probably because he just doesn’t have the natural talent DD had.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

He was just following a tradition.

Brooks burned Chris Miller’s redshirt for no particular reason other than he was out of QBs. Lost most of the games anyway.

If he hadn’t burned Miller’s RS, Miller would have been around one more year, and they could have redshirted Musgrave….

everything is history, eventually.

by benzduck on Feb 9, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

One thing MB was not great at

Burning redshirts when unnecessary. CK did a great job in avoiding that this year (especially in the UCLA game).

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by skywaker9 on Feb 9, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

the jury’s still out on that until after a ruling on Gaines’ eligibility

by echo31 on Feb 9, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Masoli, but I kind of cringe everytime I see him throw the ball. I did not do that with 2007 Dixon.

by westspec on Feb 9, 2010 10:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Kelly does an amazing job

Working with the talent he has on offense. That being said, I hope Masoli gets a little better arm strength this off-season.

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by skywaker9 on Feb 9, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

He does not even need to work on arm strength, not as much as accuracy that is.

The coaches have to figure out a way to keep him from playing poorly early

LaMichael James + Kenjon Barner + Lache Seastrunk + Dontae Williams + Josh Huff + Keanon Lowe + Remene Alston +...

by CaDuck on Feb 9, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This is my belief as well. One thing that could hurt LMJ’s chances is the number of carries he gets. If Kelly spreads the wealth to Barner and Seastrunk and uses the TZR a lot this season, it could affect LMJs stats.

by westspec on Feb 9, 2010 10:38 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Pac 10 expansion

not sure how i feel about this but i’m thinking the “north” division would be us, os, uw, wsu and the newbies (Utah/Colorado)? i could handle putting up Pac 10 North banners for a while…

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Utah-to-the-PAC-10-Not-BYU-It-could-happen/gpbSMZcBykqmrzztzmff7Q.cspx

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by NEP on Feb 9, 2010 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

It’d take some getting used to, but I’d love me some expansion. That and a good TV deal.

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I go back and forth on this. As much as I like the fact that everyone plays everyone else in this league, it’s a detriment nationally to not have 4 OOC contests. Or at least I think it is. Hard to prove.

everything is history, eventually.

by benzduck on Feb 9, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m with you. It’s somewhat of a point of pride that the Pac 10 plays a true round robin. But then I think about the benefits the other conferences are enjoying by NOT doing that, and my jealousy outweighs my pride.

Let em in, I say.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

The Rose Bowl is also a point of pride, and is holding back a playoff system.

It's spelled "R-E-D-V-I-N-E-S"

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

How is that?

The Rose Bowl doesn’t want tie-ins to conferences with a championship game? What are they going to do if/when the Pac 10 and Big 10 both go to 12 teams and have conference championships? Pull out of the BCS or something?

I’m not sure I follow you, because that’s not going to happen.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

no you have it all wrong

The Rose Bowl doesn’t care how the Pac 10 and the Big 10 get their champions, but they only want those two teams. If a playoff were to happen they would loose the conference tie in and become just another play off game, and not the Granddaddy of them all.

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by trumpetduck on Feb 9, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

His Rose Bowl argument was unrelated to your round robin argument

The pac-10 tie in to the Rose Bowl is more important to the conference and the bowl then a playoff.

by Brian Floyd on Feb 9, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah okay. But then I must respond with this:

Playoffs! We’re not talking about playoffs! Playoffs?

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Ideally, I’d rather see every other conference go to a 10 team, round robin conference.

That won’t happen.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-N-O-B-A-L-L-S"

by JShufelt on Feb 9, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I would too. But the truckloads of money from TV deals and championship games are a tough opponent.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

TV deals won’t guarantee to improve, nor will getting to a championship game.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-N-O-B-A-L-L-S"

by JShufelt on Feb 9, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not talking about the Pac 10. I’m talking about your vision of all the other conferences going to the same format as the Pac 10. They won’t, because they’re happy with the fistfuls of cash they’re making, and I’m sure they attribute at least some of that to the two-division, conference championship format.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahh… Yeah.

I see whatcha mean. My mistake.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-N-O-B-A-L-L-S"

by JShufelt on Feb 9, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone who thinks Boise State is a real possible is kidding themselves

Utah and BYU are probably the most likely because they have the resources to compete in enough sports to make it worthwhile.

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by skywaker9 on Feb 9, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Utah and Colorado seem like the front-runners.

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Colorado would only work

If the Big 12 could find someone to replace them so that they would not lose their title game.

Colorado State perhaps?

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by skywaker9 on Feb 9, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Just so I'm clear

Is there any reason why I should care if the MWC falls apart? Is there a “Save the MWC” movement that might pull my heartstrings?

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

No

But we care about what the Big 12 thinks.

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by skywaker9 on Feb 9, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

If the Big 12 loses Colorado, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them go after TCU.

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by jtlight on Feb 9, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be suprised if they went after TCU as well, but I think that there would be resistance from the remaining former Big 8 members over adding another Texas team…so much of the power in the conference is based in Texas already

by Linoleum Knife on Feb 9, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s a very good point. That conference is already very much out of whack in terms of division alignment. But there really aren’t many other viable candidates.

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by jtlight on Feb 9, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

can we make a run at gonzaga as a basketball-only team?

like notre dame is to the big east?

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

the comparison makes sense though

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Not at all

Two completely different institutions. ND can do whatever the hell it wants from its football money. You can’t play bball as an independent though. Pac ten will only take well rounded schools, not just a bball school.

by Brian Floyd on Feb 9, 2010 8:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Aside from that, Gonzaga is a non-secular institution.

That could be very much in play when it comes to Pac-10 adding or subtracting schools in any of its sports. That’s one reason I think the Pac-10 will not add BYU, but could add Utah if push comes to shove.

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by qrsouther on Feb 9, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed

BYU stands little chance. The conference just isn’t going to take secular institutions. I can’t see them making a unanimous vote on BYU to bring them in

by Brian Floyd on Feb 9, 2010 9:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I’ve also heard the Big 12 might go after Arkansas if they lost Colorado, to bring back the good ol SWC. Might make sense for the Hogs to leave the SEC

by Linoleum Knife on Feb 9, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m still iffy on this. The Pac acts very interestingly with regards to rivalries, between the “WE ARE COMPOSED OF PAIRS OF RIVALS, DAGNABIT” and the fact that no one really has a non-conference rival (except for ND. Because ND is always an exception.) Utah/CU would be a non-natural rivalry pair and would each bring their own natural NC rival.

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by AllSaintsDay on Feb 9, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

AFAIK, the P10 is the ONLY conference with absolutely logical membership pairs. Not as important in football, but crucial in hoops, where the schools are so far apart geographically.

You can’t logically match up pairs of teams, never mind rivals, in the B12, the SEC, or the BigTelevEN. Someone always gets left out.

The Pac is unique; maybe it should stay that way.

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by benzduck on Feb 9, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

The way travel is today though, geography isn’t as a big a deal as it used to be.

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

hey in this economy

They are starting to limit some of the goodies you get in first class. How can they survive?

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by trumpetduck on Feb 9, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, the P10 is the only conference like that. My point was that they seem fiercely devoted to using that to schedule court sports, as though it’s impossible to schedule like the B12 does (or the SEC or B11, though they’re not as geographically large as the B12 & P10). It influences the football too, though not as strongly.

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by AllSaintsDay on Feb 9, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

plus Colorado would get to see Diante Jackson up close…which would be fun…

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by NEP on Feb 9, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

No way Boise.

The P10 presidents would have to OK any expansion.

They’re not about to let a glorified cow college in.

We have two too many of those already.

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by benzduck on Feb 9, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Cow seattle?

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal Poly.

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by CaDuck on Feb 9, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Stanford

Nuff said.

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

A glorified junior cow college.

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by jtlight on Feb 9, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

ah he speaks of the one in corvallis.

I think they’re more famous for their sheep though…

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

i’m currently researching prehistoric Oregon football. the 1925-30 era.

my favorite part is all the references to the “Oregon Aggies”.. and how much of a fight the U put up when they wanted to change their name to “Oregon State Agricultural College”.

i like “webfoots” much better.. revisionist history aside, nobody called us “Ducks” until well into the 1930s.

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by benzduck on Feb 9, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet Musgrave was against it. Doesn’t he still call them the webfoots?

by JonathanPDX on Feb 9, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

back in the early 80s (82? 83?) when Hal Ramey was the radio guy for Oregon, he was on a one-man crusade to turn us back into the Webfoots. I still remember that first game, hearing him scream, “TOUCHDOWN WEBFOOTS!” Which sounded completely ungrammatical to me.

He wound up at Nebraska. No idea what he tried to change Cornhuskers back to.

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by benzduck on Feb 9, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

No idea what he tried to change Cornhuskers back to.

Nebraska Seed Planters?

by JonathanPDX on Feb 9, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

nebraska sodometers?

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

the douchebags or the jokes?

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

hehe

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by ProbablyMonty on Feb 9, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

learn to read

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by Bill Musgrave on Feb 10, 2010 4:37 AM PST up reply actions  

isnt more of Utah and Colorado actually meet the academic requirements needed?

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by NEP on Feb 9, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been against conference expansion for some time. While I wouldn’t propose the idea, I think I could be convinced to go along with it.

At this point, it seems like any change in college sports is good. The Pac-10 desperately needs to move forward in terms of TV contracts and moving forward with a playoff. If the Pac-10 must expand to get there, I’m for it.

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by jtlight on Feb 9, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

The big blocker in a playoff is the Rose Bowl

In many ways.

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by skywaker9 on Feb 9, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

As much as it’s fun to go to the Rose Bowl, I’m very sick of it’s ridiculous obstructionism.

It worked out well this year, because Oregon and OSU were two top 10 teams, and it was a good game. But they put tradition over good football, which I don’t care for.

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by jtlight on Feb 9, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

This was the worst.

It's spelled "R-E-D-V-I-N-E-S"

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I will never forgive the Rose Bowl for that atrocity.

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by jtlight on Feb 9, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

ug-fucking-ly

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that was terrible.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

But tradition is "THE AWESOME"

Right? Right, FAIL Rose Bowl.

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by skywaker9 on Feb 9, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

my roommates and I just got hammered and rooted for SC

it was a lot of fun, they had a very good team

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by trumpetduck on Feb 9, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

BYU would not be invited, primarily because they don’t play on Sunday…and the PAC 10 has a lot of Sunday games. Officially, the PAC 10 would say Utah is a better fit, because it’s a research institution and has a medical school, like most of the other PAC 10 schools…and BYU does not.

When does the pac-10 play Sundays? They must be talking about non-football/basketball sports?

by QuackinAK on Feb 9, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Cougcenter is talking about this, complete with a kooky 3 division format (not cougcenter’s idea).

by QuackinAK on Feb 9, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

The most interest question to me is whether they’d want to retain the natural rivalry pairings that we have right now. If so, it seems like Utah/BYU might be a logical choice. They’re bitter rivals, they’ve got solid academics, and they have good football programs.

Certainly, the PAC’s options widen somewhat if it doesn’t adhere to the rivalries scheme. Utah/Colorado might be sensible choices in that case, although Colorado would be a bit of an odd man out in terms of distances to the other schools.

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by ProbablyMonty on Feb 9, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Without getting in to politics or religion

BYU stands little chance of being brought in to the pac ten

by Brian Floyd on Feb 9, 2010 9:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

they just dont work on all levels.

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I say that the Pac-10 outdoes the ridiculous boundaries of the WAC,

By adding South Florida and University of New South Wales.

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by CaDuck on Feb 9, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I like it.

Make it happen, Larry Scott!

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by ProbablyMonty on Feb 9, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Make it so, Number Two.

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by DONALDUCK on Feb 12, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps.

Can you think of any other natural rivalries that would be good pairs to add, then? I’ve heard Boise State/Idaho floated (Takimoto, someone has mentioned Boise — I believe that’s your call to action!) but a concern is that the pairing might not have the academic chops to make the PAC. (I’m not personally making this argument, since I don’t know enough about the research capabilities of the Idaho schools, despite my Idaho nativity. I’m just repeating the concern that I’ve heard.)

It’s entirely possible that the rivalries system will simply have to give if we want to add two more teams. The possible rivalry pairs all seem to have some sort of flaw.

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by ProbablyMonty on Feb 9, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Neither team has the all-around athletic program to cut it in the “Conference of Champions”. More than anything, the Pac-10 prides itself on dominating the lesser sports (softball, women’s volleyball, baseball, etc…). And Boise State is a one-trick pony. Idaho is a half-trick pony. Oh, and fuck Boise State.

That’s the appeal behind Utah and Colorado. Academia, location, total athletic well-roundedness. Plus, fuck Boise State. They don’t want to join the Pac-10 anyway. They’d have to actually finish fourth in the Pac-10 every year instead of hypothetically finishing fourth in the Pac-10 every year.

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

And its not just athletics

They want research institutions and schools that are more than just athletics.

But yes, more than just one sport schools and more than flashes in the pan, etc.

by Brian Floyd on Feb 9, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t understand this whole rivalry thing. If you add two teams and make them play the last game of the year against each other, it will become a rivalry like michigan state vs penn state

by westspec on Feb 10, 2010 7:04 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t think the Pac-10 will care that much about teams being natural rivals. Utah and Colorado make the most sense. You add two more TV markets and two great schools. If they can get both schools, I think they jump at the chance.

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by jtlight on Feb 10, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

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by axemen23 on Feb 9, 2010 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

A second Duck makes Ted Miller's Top 30

Ed Dickson comes in at 13. Seems fair.

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by trumpetduck on Feb 9, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

I would’ve pegged him closer to 20 just because his numbers weren’t consistent from game to game. It wasn’t his fault, but still. Are Masoli and LMJ the only Ducks left on the list? I don’t see anybody else making the top 11. I could have seen Kenjon, Casey, and Boyett making the list, but not this high.

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Those guys are more of role players. super role players but still…

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by My Name is Bryce on Feb 9, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Boyett was our leading tackler, and Barner was arguably the best return man in the conference. Casey might be a stretch, but I stand by those two.

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by Takimoto on Feb 9, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I think that’s the point. There’s only so much value “arguably the best return man in the conference” can bring. If he was “unquestionably the best return man in the conference” with multiple returns for TD’s, then I think he would be in the top 30. Otherwise, I just don’t think he brings enough to get there.

And with Boyett, he was fantastic, but he mainly stood out because he vastly exceeded expectations, not necessarily because he was one of the top 10 – 15 defenders in the conference.

I think both are close, but I understand why they didn’t make it.

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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 9, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Ted remarked about this in some other post, but his point was that Dickson was the sort of guy whose numbers didn’t really show his full contribution to the team. For instance, defenses occasionally had to rescheme around him, which is invaluable and very, very hard to measure.

That said, I’ll agree that 13 is generous. But hey, I’ll take it!

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by ProbablyMonty on Feb 9, 2010 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

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