Chip Kelly hands down punishment: James and Beard suspended for one game, Masoli suspended for entire season
by jtlight on Mar 12, 2010 3:29 PM PST
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Chip Kelly laid down the punishment in response to some of his players recent run-ins with the law. Rob Beard and LaMichael James, who both plead guilty to misdemeanor harassment charges, have been suspended for the first game of the 2010 season. Jeremiah Masoli plead guilty to a misdemeanor second-degree burglary charge, and has been suspended for the entire 2010 season.
With all the speculation that has been happening over the past few weeks, I think that these punishments are fair. James and Beard made mistakes, and when presented with poor situations, made the wrong decisions.
Jeremiah Masoli's crime was much more premeditated, and he reportedly broke Chip Kelly's number one rule: he lied to the coach. I'm honestly surprised he wasn't entirely kicked off the team, though I support the University standing by the student-athletes and helping them compete their education.
All three players will have unspecified goals they will need to meet to earn full reinstatement. And if these plans aren't met, more suspension time will be administered. I don't imagine that James or Beard will have problems with that, but Masoli will have a long road ahead. Though he has the possibility to redshirt during the 2010 season, I don't anticipate seeing him play a significant role on the football field during the remainder of his career.
For now, this seems to bring for a close a fairly hectic time for Oregon football, though I'm happy with the response of the University. I'm confident that the players know their will be consequences for their actions, and hope that will affect their behavior. Here's hoping they can keep a low profile over the next few months.
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I'm sorry that Masoli is in this situation
But it is entirely his fault. He handled it poorly from the original incident through lying to CK and on.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Canzano is already at it. He’s saying on his radio shoe “supposedly suspended for the entire season” as if Chip is going to let Masoli come back this year. Damn I hate that guy
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
If he redshirts him
He can’t come back. It would make no sense for one.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
why wouldnt it? LGB had the opportunity to go to the NFL. Masoli doesn’t. if he wants to play football again, he’ll stay or transfer.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
I meant
That he’s not going to play next year, not in green and gold he won’t.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Gold?
Its YELLOW dammit, YELLOW!
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Mar 12, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm kind of drunk right now
Excuse me.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
It's GOLD
It’s not the actual color of gold but neither is a blond girl’s hair the color of the mineral and we call it golden hair.
Gold is a prettier word that yellow. Gold has panache. Yellow represents cowardly and the color of snow you don’t want to eat.
Oregon is Green and Gold…….. and black and silver and….
by Blazersaurus on Mar 12, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
No. Oregon’s official colors are “Big Green” and “Lightning Yellow”
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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Thunder Green and Lightning Yellow
I'd sleep at the Internet, but I've found servers don't make for good pillows.
by thehemogoblin on Mar 16, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t one of the team’s original nicknames, like long before DubyaDubyaII, the “Lemon Yellows”? It’s Yellow, and I"m pretty sure it always has been.
Lightning Yellow... I like that
But gold is an acceptable synonym.
My high school colors were blue and gold and it’s the same color as the duck yellow.
If I could have my way we would actually change it to gold, the color gold… actually I like the black and green best.
BTW, The Rose Bowl uniforms were terrible.
by Blazersaurus on Mar 12, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
We are not your high school team
and gold is not an acceptable synonym. The University of Oregon’s colors are green and yellow. Period
I would be shocked if anyone came back for 2010. If these suspensions are lightened, then I will lose respect for Kelly. But the Blount situation is so different, it’s ridiculous to assume he’d do the same.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
a reasonable person would have to assume that Masoli will play this year...
… as CK has set precedent and hasn’t really demonstrated much of an ability to discipline his team. Duck fans should be happy. All your stars should be playing by the time the pac 10 schedule starts.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
No, he doesn’t. I tried reasoning with him on the Dawg Pound and got the typical arguments you get on the message boards we all have tried to avoid.
really, netminder?
you were the guy who used the word “reasonable” in explaining LMJ’s handling of his girlfriend, did you not? Is that the right definition of the word?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Huh?
What are you talking about? Go back and find that sentence because I can’t. I said I thought you and Lear were being “unreasonable” and that I think I can begin to understand how LMJ would react given the fact she showed up and refused to leave. What I was getting at is that he did get angry, but that I can see how he handled it the way he did even if I wish he was less physical about it.
What I am saying is that someone showed up to his house unannounced, scared whoever else he had over, and then refused to leave. She broke his necklace and tried to take off with his car keys, a situation to which he reacted somewhat reasonably. I think there ARE other ways he could have possibly handled it, but I am also able to take a step back and realize that in the heat of the moment, it is tough to be a perfect human being.
I’m done arguing this. You are oversimplifying a complicated situation. The guy is not an animal and he did not actively seek out trouble. Just remember that she came to his door and instigated this situation and he initially asked her to leave in a non-violent manner.
by netminder82 on Mar 12, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Your point?
Is this not what happened? What are you arguing here?
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
he asked me to show where he used the word "reasonable" to describe LMJ's reaction to the situation.
… I have no point, just responding to the request.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
I have no point
Enough said
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
Okay, you found the word "reasonably" in his paragraph. Grats.
Is he wrong about the account of what happened? Because we have links abound that back what he said.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Chip Kelly should be fired because of a comment netminder82 made on the Internet.
Wow, it is easy to twist words around!
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
easy guys.
… if you have noted my comments from other posts, I’ve always said that I think Kelly wants to do the right thing and I’ve never said he ought to befired. I also even said that I thought LMJ’s punishment was defensible.
I can understand you guys are a little ultra defensive today, all I asked was if you seriously thought you wouldn’t see Masoli this year.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
We’re not defensive today more than any other day, we’re just getting annoyed as speculation with no real reason.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
I don’t think so either. Just stirring the pot. I WANT YOUR SPOON! IT’S STIRRED ENOUGH!
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
Captain irony, king of inflamation.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 12, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
well, in the only other instance he suspended a guy for a season, he didn't follow through...
… so there is precedent. That would fall under the definition of a legitimate reason to think we’ll see Masoli again, don’t you think?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
I mean, there is reason to question that. But it’s not reasonable to assume that will happen. There’s a big difference.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Maybe. John Canzano is going off the same thing.
The problem is with any assumption that it WILL happen.
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
Full legal proceedings are completely different from an on-field, emotion-based incident, especially given the way Blount handled himself immediately following the Punch.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Is there precedence? Sure. It’s also a VERRRY limited sample size and to jump to the conclusion that because Kelly lightened one punishment he will then lighten EVERY punishment is pretty weak logic.
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
Come on Gekko, that’s quite a stretch. Man, you’re the one Dawg I expect to aim a little higher than that around here.
Blount’s contrition for an on-the-field emotional reaction and going completely bat-shit crazy versus whatever level of regret we do or do not see for a premeditated act of theft followed by lying to the head coach. There’s a world of difference there.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
I think my cynicism is justified
Like I’ve said before, I think Chip wants to do the right thing but he hasn’t demonstrated an ability to assert consistent discipline or policy. He has been exposed to remarkable circumstances in his first year. Having an opinion that we will see Masoli next season is not outrageous.
That said, Masoli did make Chip look like a fool given the radio interview he did with Canzano. Who knows?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Mar 12, 2010 7:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Of course some cynicism is justified...
but the only time you show up here is when you feel the need to lecture ducks, and thus your opinion appears biased.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 12, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
not true..
… I’m here all the time, but I only comment when the subjects are interesting. As an Oregonian and a fan who went through the worst of the Husky Thug era, not to mention the Jailblazer era, I find this topic interesting.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
We will agree to disagree on this.
I’m here, well, every day, and I see your comments once a month, once every two months, somewhere in that range.
I have yet to see a single positive comment about the ducks.
This suggests bias.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 13, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
I predicted that they would beat tOSU in the Rose Bowl.
… does that count as positive?
Of course I’m biased – I went to UW. But I grew up in Portland and have pretty strong roots in the Oregon sports scene. Thus my interest.
Plus, I have to admit, you guys have a helluva blog over here.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Plus, I have to admit, you guys have a helluva blog over here.
He’s killing us with kindness! Quick, to the cannons!
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
Yes, but your interest seems devoted to things gone wrong, however.
Or games lost, etc. etc.
It’s a consistent lecturing tone, with obvious and now admitted bias, which lowers the value of points made.
So props to the Rose Bowl prediction and your love of the ATQ blog, and I’ll lay off and let you type away.
Just don’t expect biased opinions to be taken seriously.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 13, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
if you seriously thought you wouldn’t see Masoli this year.
I will echo exactly what jtlight said:
If these suspensions are lightened, then I will lose respect for Kelly.
and you can hold me to that too.
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
And as I wrote in this post…
I don’t anticipate seeing him play a significant role on the football field during the remainder of his career.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
dammit, Matt
WHY DO YOU HAVE TO REFUTE HIS ARGUMENT WITH FACTS!!!!
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
YOU ATE AXEMEN?!?!
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
Don't eat porn.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 12, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed. It's very unhealthy.
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
nice try Gekko.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
so I'm joking about the p10 schedule part ...
… but do you guys really not think you’ll see Masoli again? Especially once you start hearing all the blah blah about he has followed the program and changed his life?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
none of us think he’ll be back. now we’ll see if Sark kicks the DE out for the year.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
well, at least Sark has already suspended him ...
… something that CK did not feel he needed to do prior to convictions occurring.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
How's life under the bridge, troll?
Seen Dora and Boots lately?
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 12, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
suspended from what? got a game next week? suspending people in the off-season does nothing but placate people that don’t matter. there is no short term gain or loss. CK doesnt care what any of the media here think so what’s the point in waiting till the facts come out (today)?
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
What would have suspending him during the off season accomplish?
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
It would have appeased a bunch of meaningless trolls on message boards. Can’t you understand that is how decisions should be made?
Who are you to call anybody a troll??
Last time I checked you’ve been over on the UW blog, just as much as he’s been here.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I just meant that I thought he was actively trying to get people worked up. Nobody cares if you share an opinion, but making smart-ass comments is what get people pissed.
I agree with more of what you guys say than I disagree with in the end, so no worries on this stuff. Just football!
Unfortunately for everyone . . .
what he said is pretty accurate.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I’m actually serious. I would LOVE an answer to this.
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
I mean, I am serious about it only being something that would appease the message board guys and bloggers. I think a meaningless offseason suspension before the actual decision takes place only serves to quiet the rumblings in the media and on the internet.
If Chip Kelly is comfortable with letting it linger so he can just make one clean decision, then that is the best way to do it in my mind. That’s what he did, and I just don’t see how it hurt anyone. There is no purpose in the preemptive suspension.
It’s a symbol to everyone in the press that you have control over your program. It doesn’t mean you do, but the press thinks you do.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Come on.
Chip Kelly trusted his player. Now, the player violated that trust. That’s the unfortunate part. Also, what’s there to suspend him from if he’s innocent after all? Going to the movies in the offseason? Driving his car? What do you want Chip Kelly to do?
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Clearly Sark has a better control over players then Kelly. Kelly has no control at all! The Oregon program is running wild. Sark suspended his player proactively, and that sends a message to the rest of the players!
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
If CGB = ATQ South, then UW Dawg Pound = Oregon Live North. It’s really getting ridiculous.
by netminder82 on Mar 12, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
uhhh
you guys are CGB north, we are not ATQ south.
It’s UC Eugene, not UO Berkeley
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
i thought we were U of Texas – Eugene now?
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
I am the personal UO - Austin branch.
I offer several courses in microbrewery drinking, smarmy-ness, and how not to get tackled by a rogue lineba.. alkdjalfdsjfaaldsfjals.
Fucking Pleasant, get out of here.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 12, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
CBKWit has lost control of his geography! What’s next? Alaska takes the place of New York on the map?
As winners of the most recent pac-10 championship, and with our third straight beat down of the TP shooters, we have reclaimed our autonomy.
Plus, you’re all Californian’s anyway. You’re the Australia to our 19th century England
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
Criminals?
Dammit. He’s right.
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
Oregon, Oregon, Oregon! Oi, Oi, Oi!!!
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
I don’t think we’ll see Masoli again. If we do, I lose a lot of respect for Chip Kelly. And you can hold me to that.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
by Takimoto on Mar 12, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
this.
Ducks stackin' wins like Leggos, toastin Pac-10 like the Eggos, like we're racin' against some preggos, Dan Patrick we enfuego.
by PacBellBoozer on Mar 12, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
If he earns the job after a season off, then he’s the best player for the position after serving his time. He still needs to learn how to pass the damn ball.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Which has been said, what, once by Chip Kelly? In an entirely different situation?
Come on dude.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Really?
Of course Masoli won’t play this year. Even if Kelly brought him back after 10 or so games, Masoli wouldn’t be ready to play by any means.
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
And it's not like he could contribute.
You can toss a big powerful complement back in there at the end of the year. You can’t just replace 10-game starter in Thomas or Costa with the old starter.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com
I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
See Masoli sucking til the Cal game this year
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Man what a year for CK
LGB incident in first game
Win the Pac-10, go to the Rose Bowl
Off-field BS leading to suspension of star QB.
Hope his future years are less chaotic.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
You would.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Hellooooooooooooooo DARRON THOMAS
eat your wheaties, tie your shoelaces and brace your knees boy you are up!
Has Costa finally run out of eligibility?
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
Nope, he’s back for his ninth season.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Good god.
I honestly hope that he pushes Darron Thomas in practice, yet DT wins the starting job in the end.
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
Darron Thomas looks good as our qb for next three years
he better call dixon for advice, and why oh why did we get rid of that uniform combination?
by HurricaneDayne on Mar 12, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Recruiting
Just out of curiosity, do we have a breakdown of who recruited these players? Are they Bellotti holdovers, or Kelly signings? And I do recognize that there is a lot of overlap between the two, but it’s still something I’m curious about.
Kelly signed him I think
Masoli was an unrated recruit (literally 0 stars).
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
In skywakers's defense,
JM is unrated on Rivals.
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
Cool
ESPN kept claiming last year he was unrrated.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Axemen23 made the same claim about Jeremiah Johnson.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Masoli was a Kelly target, as was James.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com
I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
OT but Boise State FIRES COACH!
Their basketball coach:
Boise State fired coach Greg Graham, who was 142-112 in 8 years at school but 15-17 this season
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
This sucks
This sucks that our players put our school in this situation
This sucks that our players put our fans in this situation
This sucks that our players put our coach in this situation
This sucks that we have lost our QB for the entire season
I hope this day is a giant fucking wake up call to the entire team to get straight and do right. I am pissed that this even occurred. Screw it, it’s Friday I going to go get a drink.
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
Holy shit are you related to Puff Daddy?
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
by qrsouther on Mar 12, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That's the most reasonable thing I've read on this blog!!
Husky fans know how you feel, Slick Rick put us through some very similar crap.
I would add: This sucks that our coach didn’t put an end to this crap after the Blount incident.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
This sucks that our coach didn’t put an end to this crap after the Blount incident.
Yeah, because the way Kelly handled the LGB situation caused Masoli to be an idiot and James’ girlfriend to start a fight with him…
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
And Josh Kaddu to get an MIP
Seriously, that’s the worst one in many ways because any one of Chip’s players should be easily able to out-run the cops.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
And our player to drink underage…
And our kicker to get in a fight…
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
Yeah,
This argument that the handling of Blount is causing all of these problems is just ridiculous.
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
It only makes excuses for the player’s actions and I don’t think that is reasonable. The players need to know better whether Kelly helps rehabilitate one or not. Do right and this isn’t an issue.
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
I would add: This sucks that our coach didn’t put an end to this crap after the Blount incident.
How? Take away their meat? Then they couldn’t have any pudding!
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
How can they have any pudding if they don't eat their meat?
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 12, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
At least Jamere Holland "dont need no education"
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
Funny, how many different incidents did you guys just list?
When such a high number of your players are in trouble with the law, there is a problem with the program and coach.
For example: This is exactly what happened to the UW under Neuheisel. We said the same thing: It’s not the coaches fault that ALL the players are getting it trouble. By the way, we were wrong, it was do to a lack of discipline from the coaching staff.
I hear Tyrone Willingham is looking for a new program to clean up, interested???
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
NCAA violations are different.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Don't worry, those will follow shortly.
We didn’t start losing games because the coach broke rules, we started losing games because our players were not disciplined. A lack of discipline off of the field quickly becomes a lack of discipline on the field.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
You UW guys and your simplistic logic. The circumstances are sooooo different. If I remember right a number of the player issues were a) not in Nueheisel’s first year and b) recruited by Neuheisel directly.
If this keeps up over the next couple of years, sure we can talk then about direct comparisons, until then I will let Kelly make his decisions and sleep in the bed he makes for himself
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
So this is Bellotti's fault??
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Actually Bellotti said today that he feels responsible because he recruited these guys. I personally don’t hold him accountable for MAsoli being a moron.
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
In a few years
the Oregon Duck nation will clearly see how a lack of discipline starts at the top and filters it’s way down through a program, and how it wil quickly destroy a program.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
No, actually it's just history repeating itself.
Too bad Bellotti and Kelly can’t learn from our mistakes.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
We will have you back on this show in a few years to apologize
by Brian Floyd on Mar 12, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Since when did you become a duck fan?
Or is it just that the Cougs suck so bad you have to support everybody else?
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
It was a joke
Look up the Canzano interview with Kelly.
I also prefer to look at things in a level-headed manner
There are very, very few duck fans
looking at this with a level head. Any person looking at this with a level head would clearly see there is a lack of discipline running rampant through out the Oregon football program.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
But clearly you don’t have a level head. I mean… you frequently comment here.
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
I just stuck a level on top of my head
Unfortunately, you are correct. Until I get my flat top done, I’m fucked
No it just means you’re not straight
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
And there it is folks.
This thread has come out of the closet.
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
I know we’re blind deaf and dumb to all the falicies running rampant in the Oregon Football program.
The spread offense is a joke
Our players lack discipline
Our coach has double standards
We recruit thugs
We’re run by a shoe company
I’m sure there are recruiting violations somewhere in there
oh and we don’t have a Jake Locker…
Did I miss any more of our major flaws?
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
Uniforms
(a) HI-LITER
(b) Chrome is not one of our school colours
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
by AllSaintsDay on Mar 12, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
yes - cougfan did make a joke ...
… And I thought it was pretty funny.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Mar 12, 2010 7:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Calm down.
Are we supposed to ban a Cougar fan because he comments on this Duck board? If so, how are you allowed to be here?
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In a few years, I’d love to have that debate. But for now, let’s not go there.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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Ok, come back in a few years then. You could be right, you could be wrong
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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I'll put it on my calendar.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Great, we'll see you then. Ta ta...
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by Bill Musgrave on Mar 12, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
If I thought Kelly was taking the appropriate actions to correct these issues . . .
I’d have to agree with you. But he is being far too forgiving, far too often.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
This might be the first time I’ve ever heard someone call Chip Kelly too forgiving.
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When has Coach Kelly been far too forgiving?
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How many starters has he kicked off the team?
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
So he’s supposed to be extra harsh on starters? Please…
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How many starters have committed violations?
Two. One of them is gone for a year, and the other is being suspended for a game (and none of us know exactly what happened).
That is not softy discipline.
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Oh really?
Didn’t a player just get kicked off the team for the exact same crime that got a starter suspended??
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Are you talking about Garret Embry?
Because he was kicked off before that incident happened
I am 13, immature and know almost nothing about the CFB landscape. I just know that I DO love the Oregon Ducks a bucketload :D
From the mouth of babes, comes wisdom
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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Now you're ASKING for a double-standard?
Christ. What are you even talking about now?
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
No, I am pointing out the double standard.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
I must be blind. I don’t see the double standard.
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
Yes, then you are blind.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Please, explain to me the double standard. I don't see it.
And I honestly would like to know what you interpret as a double standard.
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His seeing eye dog is a Husky. He’s been hit by nine cars this week.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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by Takimoto on Mar 12, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
let’s play a game called “what would J. Locker have to do to get suspended for the season?”
i’ll go first – admit going to UW was a mistake.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
that’d be blamed on Willingham.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
would prob result in a parade and then getting defensive about why everyone thinks the parade is in very poor taste.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
You pointed it out once, then it was refuted, any other evidence?
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by Bill Musgrave on Mar 12, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
But he is being far too forgiving, far too often.
/sigh
Ok, NCAA violation for punching a player 1 game – LGB 8 games
NCAA predendence for DUII, 1 half – Alonso full season
Kelly is not being forgiving at all. He’s just not rushing to judgments and making rash decisions. Facts help
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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actions to correct these issues . . .
Here is the major problem. And it’s understandable. Now correct me if I’m wrong, but you think there is a major problem with control over the athletes. That they are running around wild and Kelly can’t get a grip over it. Though he is trying really hard to do the best he can without being “too harsh”.
Am I right in the ballpark?
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
Of all the thousands of comments posted online everywhere, this says it all for me
Whole-frigging-heartedly-seconded.
by gamedaytribe on Mar 13, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
LaMichael James should've been suspended for more than a game
Sorry, but his crime is on par with Masoli’s. Lying to your coach isn’t a ten game plus penalty. Three games, maybe four would’ve been acceptable.
Instead of punished both, Kelly sacrificed one to save his team’s chances at next year. Typical college coaching behavior.
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Are you talking about the plea bargain? That doesn’t really tell us anything.
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No, the sentencing memo. I would suggest that you read it before making judgements. It tells exactly what happened during the altercation.
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Ah ok. So he was cheating on his girlfriend and he physically confronted her. Sounds like a great guy.
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Having a houseguest means cheating?
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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No.
But, “having a houseguest”, wink wink, means cheating.
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Maybe so, but I don’t assume anything.
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Takimoto, your girlfriend’s at my house. What do you think we’re doing???
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Twists’ wife is over at my house all the time.
We play xbox.
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
Axemilf23 is at my place right now.
We are baking cookies.
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Dude, she can't be in 2 places at once.
She’s over at my house, rolling out sausages.
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
I thought that Layla Kiffin was at your place...
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She was over here nightly before the whole moving-to-LA thing.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
I think on ATQ it's called jbox.
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by Bill Musgrave on Mar 12, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I love Mario Kart 64. One of the best games ever
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
AtQ Mario Kart party?
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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What system?
I am 13, immature and know almost nothing about the CFB landscape. I just know that I DO love the Oregon Ducks a bucketload :D
Funny how that's what gets Pie to comment
hmmmm
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
What? D:
I was just playing, haha.
I am 13, immature and know almost nothing about the CFB landscape. I just know that I DO love the Oregon Ducks a bucketload :D
I think that N64 is the obvious Mario Kart system of choice.
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I never had an n64 =[
I am 13, immature and know almost nothing about the CFB landscape. I just know that I DO love the Oregon Ducks a bucketload :D
Tragic. The last great cartridge system.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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I was 4 when the gamecube was released
And I beg to differ, the GBA was a pretty awesome cartridge system IMO
Actually I’m not sure those were catridges but yeah
I am 13, immature and know almost nothing about the CFB landscape. I just know that I DO love the Oregon Ducks a bucketload :D
Yeah, I'll give you GameBoy's as being cartridges.
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I was zero when they released the N64
Also in a poor country too
I am 13, immature and know almost nothing about the CFB landscape. I just know that I DO love the Oregon Ducks a bucketload :D
Well that was my “23 is older than you think” newsflash for the day.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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50 buck says you lived in Djibouti
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by CaDuck on Mar 12, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I can haz money?
I came from the Phillippines
I am 13, immature and know almost nothing about the CFB landscape. I just know that I DO love the Oregon Ducks a bucketload :D
She’ll tell me when she leaves, because she’s honest and I trust her unconditionally.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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more importantly, you believe in her.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
I do. Granted, we probably have a slightly different relationship than LMJ and Chip Kelly, but the trust remains the same.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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did you take that line directly from NBC's "Parenthood"?
or is this a Days of Our Lives quote?
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It’s love. Weird, right?
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Takimoto’s girlfriend, Takimoto is at my house. We just fucked. Then, we watched Hot Tube Time Machine. It’s unclear what was the bigger mistake.
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I was just trying to remind TwistNHook of his wedding night.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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and the answer is Hot Tub Time Machine. The sex was decent.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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Ah ok. So he was cheating on his girlfriend and he physically confronted her. Sounds like a great guy.
So you didn’t read it, or you would have known that she was the one who physically confronted him by barring him access to his own apartment. Got it.
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
by AllSaintsDay on Mar 12, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
actually, according to the statement, he initiated the physicial confrontation.
… I think the exact phrase was “physically removed her from the premises”.
Regardless, the punishment, while pretty soft, seems defensible.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Please, go back to the Puppy Pound.
People who do much, much worse things to women get less or equal punishment. I’m thinking that LaMichael tried to get this woman (who was an UNIVITED INTRUDER) out of his house by just putting his hands on her and trying to nudge her out. She proceeded to break his necklace, pissing him off. From there it went outside, she was even more physical towards, and it escalated to him chasing her down and taking her to the ground by her waist.
He probably shouldn’t have laid hands on her, but there’s a stark difference between non-provoked domestic violence and a physical (NOT TO MENTION THAT THE WOMAN WAS PARTIALLY AT FAULT TO) altercation caused by an unwelcomed intruder busting into LMJ’s apartment.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 13, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
yeah - I think I said the punishment was defensible...
… but don’t pretend that this is the victim’s fault (“altercation caused by an unwelcomed intruder” implies just that)
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
It’s not her fault, but it wouldn’t have happened if she hadn’t gone over looking for trouble.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 13, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
I think they are both at fault. LMJ shouldn’t have handled the situation the way he did but being the man in the situation, he really can’t do the right thing except sit there and pray she goes away. He can’t call the police because he will go to jail, he can’t do what he did which was show any force because the man ALWAYS loses in situations like that.
Reading the complaint, and the comments here by lots of folks, people generally fall into 2 different camps.
1) people who say that force against a woman is NEVER justified
2) people who say that it was a bad situation in both cases
Because of the laws we have in place, the man in the situation is immediately arrested, even if both parties were equally involved in the situation. In this specific case, there are two victims here and there are two aggressors. The laws are written such that LMJ gets a small charge of harassment and we go on our way.
Domestic Violence cases are tricky and the laws are written in a certain way based on past happenings. My wife has relayed numerous cases to me where she has seen, first hand, situations very similar to the accounts of the LMJ case where the woman involved does every thing in her power to get your husband/boyfriend to grab them so they can call the cops and have them hauled off to jail.
I’m not pretending this is completely the woman’s fault but living in a vacuum saying that LMJ is the only one at fault here and the woman is the “victim” and has no responsibility in this situation just doesn’t make sense.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
I've been in a semi-similar situation.
In my case I had no “new” woman over, just didn’t want to be with the old one anymore and she didn’t agree. Yer choices?
1. Physically remove her? Immoral to handle anyone you have clear physical dominance over with physical dominance in my opinion, so that’s out. Legal issues obvious as well.
2. Call the cops? You may harm someone legally you care about. You may have something construed against you. You may not be able to dial the phone with someone physically attacking you.
3. Call someone else? May have limited value, how can they help other than getting the cops themselves? I tried this one, thought a friend might calm the situation. Couldn’t complete the call, knocked out of my hand or hung up each time. Did not want to physically restrain her to complete the call for reasons listed above.
4. Leave the place yourself? Assumes you can get around them without pushing/shoving. Leaves house open to abuse. Unnatural, didn’t even occur to me in the heat of the moment to leave my own house. In LMJ’s case, maybe he shouldn’t have showed up in the first place?
5. Wait it out? This is what I did. Took 7 hrs of beratement, demands, many punches and in your face pushes. Did my very, very best to keep hands down and stay calm, talk it down to a discussion level. I succeeded physically, mentally I did not, I was furious and did my fair share of yelling inbetween sections of rational discussion.
So LMJ made the wrong choice, I’m just saying he had no good or easy options. When someone doesn’t want to leave, they, well, just might not.
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by Bill Musgrave on Mar 13, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
i guess its relative. some people might think stealing from frat boys is hilarious and should be encouraged. i have a hunch if he didnt lie to CK, he would have gotten like 4 games.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
It was the lying that did him in
If you’re a person of integrity, you don’t lie and Masoli lied.
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How do you know any of this?
Even if Coach Kelly were to throw one under the bus to save the chances of being good next year, why would he throw the QB away? The QB is the most valuable player on the field. UO pumps out 1000 yard rushers right and left, QB is the more valuable position.
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yeah. that argument is ridiculous. we have about 40 RB’s and no proven QB’s. if he was just gonna pick one and sacrifice the other, i’m pretty sure it would’ve gone the other way.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
I think it’s showing Chip Kelly’s values and priorities. He values honesty. He feels premeditation is more egregious than emotion. He is thorough. He has been consistent with those values throughout all of this.
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I rarely disagree with you Avinash, but I think you're very very offbase here.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
I just feel theft is a lesser crime than physical violence against a woman. Maybe you feel differently.
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It’s about meditation and honesty.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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Well guys,
For the first time in years, we will experience what having a QB that can actually see the field is like.
Thomas throws deep to Diante Jackson…20 15 10 5 TOUCHDOWN!!!!
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I think that's who he was getting at.
And yes, I’m excited too. Jared and I have talked about the importance of field vision for a quarterback and what it can do for an offense.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Hopefully he won't have Dixon force-it disease
And be wiling to throw it away when no one is open.
We’ll also have better WRs this season.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Hopefully he wont have Masoli "force it in the first quarter" disease...
And is a little more consistent. Our O-line should be very good this year, so they will make his life a little easier.
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Masoli's problem
Was he had to overthrow about three times before he completed a pass.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Right.
He was so tough to figure out. At times, he would lead the offense down glorious clutch drives, yet at other times, he was so bad at controlling his emotions he couldn’t even complete a pass.
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DIXON 2.0 better brace his knees. I dont think he can take hits like masoli if he doesnt bulk up
by HurricaneDayne on Mar 12, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
I think he is already a little bulkier than Dixon ever was.
I think.
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Dixon also was a bit stupid at times in taking hits
Masoli would avoid a hit if he didn’t have to take it, Dixon wouldn’t.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
You never see a guy get hurt delivering a blow, either.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Huh? Did you see Masoli put the heat on two different teams named OSU's DB's?
Too bad he didn’t get as many chances against the third OSU.
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by Bill Musgrave on Mar 12, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
the other funny take is that this will hurt us in recruiting. if i was a player, i’d want the coach to have my back and put me in situations to succeed on the field and in the classroom. not sure how this whole situation doesn’t increase CK’s cred among his players even more than before…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
I think CK's handling of the LGB situation
Helped us land Lache and LAche said as much.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
yeah i think if anything this all helps recruiting. parents willl like the discipline
but the athletes may say i can still get away with certain things if i just dont lie to the coach. who knows? did it hurt miami’s recruiting or even floridas?
Or USCs, Or Washington's, or, you get the point...
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". . . this all helps recruiting."
Really?? Who’s recruiting is this going to help? USC, Oregon State? WSU? UW????
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Miami? I think you could say that it did.
… as it did FSU. Florida / Alabama? The SEC is a different beast and those two teams are title contenders.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Right.
Showing mentor-ship in the Blount situation sure helped USC’s, UW’s and Cal’s recruiting. Yep. Sure did. Oregon didn’t even sign any players in this years class, especially not ex-Husky commits. Nope. None of them.
C’mon.
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I can hear it now:
Kelly: Yes, Mrs. Smith, when your son gets arrested for DUI (or harrassment, or theft, or MIP, or . . . . ) I won’t kick him off my team, we’ll welcome him back and mentor him to be better person, our team is just full of good roll models!!!!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Try "Rest assured, Mrs. Smith, I will boot your son from our university and his scholarship if he touches a beer his entire time at our university."
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
When has Kelly EVER done that??
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Well then. You DON’T know what you’re talking about…
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
See, that's the double standard we are talking about!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
please be more specific. CK has always said each situation is different and punishments will be handled accordingly. that’s his style. you think thats the wrong way to handle it. not really a double standard.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
You've got to be joking.
Really, I have nothing more to say to you if you don’t get what any of us have been saying.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Suspending a player...
for a year because of a DUI is ridiculous. Yeah I am glad Kelly seems to care about discipline, but the suspensions in my eyes, besides James, have been a little too harsh. You think Tebow gets suspended for the season if he would have done this (which of course he never would) or even McCoy at Texas last year. This will not help recruiting. If anything it will hurt it. The big programs protect their big names….Oregon wanted to save face because they arent looked at the same as Florida, Florida State, Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, and so on. Those schools can get away without punishing players because they have won before. Oregon is new to the national spotlight and the Blount situation is affecting the way Kelly disciplines now. That punishment was too harsh, this one for Masoli is too harsh.
Icey
by ChicagoQuack503 on Mar 13, 2010 1:49 AM PST up reply actions
I completely disagree with this. Not only will this impress parents who want their children to be at a place that encourages good behavior, but how hard is it to communicate to players: “Don’t steal shit and don’t drive drunk?” Those are not difficult expectations to live up to. Just because Florida and Texas won’t live up to them doesn’t mean we should be okay if Oregon doesn’t.
There have four guys dismissed or suspended for a year:
Masoli: Committed burglary and then lied
Holland: Long history of problems capped by his Facebook tirade
Alonso: Drove drunk the same night Kelly stood up for his players
Simms: Directly contradicted Kelly’s order not to retaliate in the Beard/Bowlin incident
I don’t think any of these are too harsh. In all cases there were serious incidents (or a large pile of minor incidents) in conjunction with making Kelly look like a fool. As a coach, you can’t have that. I support these decisions and don’t think they’ll be a recruiting detriment.
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I'm with Gorby on this one.
Once these things happen, I think Kelly handles them brilliantly. Waits for facts. Strong punishments with outs if you get your shit together. The message is: we are a family, not a business. It takes a lot to get completely fired. If you do wrong, at least the first time, I’m going to kick the shit out of you, but I’m not giving up on you, I still love you. You have a chance to get a degree and better yourself here, should you choose to do so. Your second chance may or may not even involve football, do you still want it? A parent of a kid who’s gotten in trouble in the past and wants them to improve has got to love that, as does one with a model kid who knows it won’t be an issue but affects the environment. Kids who know they won’t cause trouble won’t see it as a factor, and kids who have toed the line of decency in the past may or may not like it, depending on how far gone toward trouble they are.
Besides, who wants to root for a program that lets this shit go? Not me, our guys are toeing the line of what I want to root for already.
Perspective is a funny thing, Canzano and the UWers think he’s too light and/or too slow. I think he’s right on target.
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by Bill Musgrave on Mar 13, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
I know Bill thinks I only criticize ....
…. but I have commented many times that I think Kelly probably wants to do the right thing under what are extraordinary circumstances for a rookie head coach in a major program. His missteps are not too light/to harsh, in my mind. Rather, he’s been inconsistent and not transparent to the media or to his own players. Thus, his discipline efforts to date have not erected disincentives or generated a culture of accountability. That’s the point that I think the vast majority of people who are not emotionally tied to the program are making. Its difficult to know how any coach would respond in these circumstances, much less a newbie like Chip … I suspect most coaches would be flustered under similar circumstances.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Rather, he’s been inconsistent and not transparent to the media or to his own players.
To the media, yeah. To his own players? Give me a break. You have absolutely no idea what’s going on inside the program, and making pronouncements like that is ridiculous.
I know that this is simply parroting the Berkowitz line, but that guy hasn’t been right about one thing during Kelly’s time as a coach. What’s that, he’s alienating high school coaches? Top 25 recruiting class. What’s that the team doesn’t respect him after the Boise State game? Oh, wait, they just won the Pac-10 title by two games.
I know these types of statements are fun to make, but they are not backed up with any sort of fact.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Exactly.
These statements come from the “fun” in defining negatives, and that enjoyment originates in bias.
Gekko, are we to believe you know that Kelly is not transparent to his players? Who the hell knows this? Looks like a big family to me.
Not transparent to the media? Maybe so, I happen to like it. His purpose appears not to be about appeasing the media and putting on a good show, his purpose appears to be treating his team like a family – collecting facts and dealing with them appropriately.
Inconsistent? Going to need some evidence on that one, disagree.
These points appear as sweeping generalizations. List the overall incidents and punishments for discussion, for example, they look consistent to me.
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by Bill Musgrave on Mar 13, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Let’s look at the guys who weren’t dismissed or suspended for the whole season:
James: Guilty of harassment but was completely up front and took responsibility for his actions – 1 game
Beard: Same as James – 1 game
Blount: Punched a guy on national TV, apologized – suspended for the season but was reinstated after 8 games
The message to me is clear: If you do stupid stuff, you’re going to be punished accordingly based on the level of stupidity. HOWEVER, on top of that, you better not undermine Kelly’s credibility or authority, otherwise things will go even worse for you. In each case where Kelly gave a minor suspension or relented, guys were up front and apologetic about their misdeeds. In cases where major suspensions were given, there was a direct corellation to Kelly. As a coach, you cannot have your authority undermined. As soon as that happens, you lose the ability to truly lead.
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i would think that the rash of incidents stockpiling on each other would indicate a lack of understanding of consequences.
… But maybe those don’t count as “facts”.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Mar 13, 2010 1:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
This logic is simply terrible.
We have laws in this country that people break every single day. And despite 99% of our country knowing there will be consequences, these things still happen.
There is no reason to make the logical leap from “a rash of incidents happened” to “the players don’t understand.” There must be some sort of corroborating evidence, and there is none.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
So this is a reply to what I wrote... which fucking portion of what I wrote are you responding to?
It’s a tired argument technique to change the subject, either slightly, or significantly, when you don’t have something specific to refute. It’s also a tired method to use sarcasm to attempt to mask a lack of any actual knowledge of the issue.
You wrote about lack of transparency to media, lack of transparency to players, and inconsistency as your “evidence” or “reasoning” why there is a culture of non-accountability. Now you’re adding a fourth piece of evidence, rather than answering my questions about your first three pieces of evidence.
So, ok, Jared already went the extra mile and responded to your fourth point, that “a rash of incidents” indicates a lack of understanding of consequences". I agree with Jared’s point there, it’s why the death penalty doesn’t prevent heinous crimes and why RICO doesn’t even prevent highly premeditated organized crime, if people are of the mindset to do something, the consequences aren’t what stop them. In addition, Chip’s kicked guys off the team, handed out full season suspensions, I think anyone with an IQ over 2 knows that if they screw up there will be consequences. Lack of understanding of consequences is not the issue. I’m open to another opinion on any of these points if it’s longer than a sentence and devoid of “I’ll show you” sarcasm, by all means, offer more thoughts. For example, do you believe the LMJ punishment is too short? Or that the Blount reinstatement lets guys believe they can do anything? These would be actual points to discuss. I disagree with both, but at least you’d be making arguments rather than snotty generalizations.
So back the other three points.
I’ve conceded he is not transparent to media, but I think it’s an overall plus for the team. The team is more important to Chip than what UWers and the rest of the world thinks. If this fact makes the players feel more protected than sold out, maybe that supports your point… but I’m in favor of the team feeling confident and supported by their leader any day.
How is he not transparent to players? Was this just something that was fun to write but you don’t know shit about? Who is your friend on the team that tells you about how that damn Chip Kelly won’t tell us what he’s thinking? I’d even be willing to listen to well reasoned ASSUMPTIONS without FACTS in support, as long as good LOGIC is offered. You are simply throwing out blanket assumptions without any reasoning.
How is he inconsistent? Care to roll out each incident and show how the guys he kicked off the team didn’t really do anything bad, and the guys he’s suspended and kept are really the bad guys?
Care to roll out the “he keeps the starters” argument with some facts about how LMJ really murdered a woman?
Care to pretend that Garett Embry was kicked off the team for the same incident that Masoli was suspended for… when he was actually kicked off several weeks before?
Look, I don’t think anybody here is saying that we don’t want this shit cleaned up, too many things have happened in too short of a time, and something does need to be pulled into order.
I just think sweeping generalizations made by people who would love every minute of a UO collapse better be backed up by reading police reports and point by point, factual evidence.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 14, 2010 8:49 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Rather, he’s been inconsistent and not transparent to the media or to his own players.
I just don’t understand what he has been inconsistent. Can you talk specifically on what it is that he’s been inconsistent on? If it’s punishment length, we can go into each case and look at the details surrounding them. Is it the Blount case? I actually respect someone more that re-evaluates a situation and adjusts rather than just stick by statements regardless of how the situation may/may not have changed.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
Let’s not forget that the NCAA mandates only a 1-game suspension in an incident such as Blount’s.
LeGarrette proved himself on and off the field as a person with character. He was an exemplary student, player, and citizen after the incident, and he deserved to come back. He didn’t get very many carries, but you better believe that he made the most of them.
You really can’t convince me that there would be any coaches that are better on punishment than Kelly. I haven’t found a single incident where the punishment was too little for the crime.
Go to Florida, get a DUI, get suspended for 1/2 of the SEC Championship Game.
Come to Oregon, get a DUI, get suspended for a season.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 13, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think it’s as much the type of crime as it is the accountability for one’s actions. CK has been very clear on that. If you lie to him or break his trust, you are punished more severely then if you accept your actions and be upfront and honest in how you handle the situation
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
Yup.
Had LaMichael lied and didn’t accept accountability in the situation, he could have faced a similar punishment as Masoli.
Instead, he was a man about it and took the high road, and is only going to miss one game as a result.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 13, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
right
Choke a woman, get suspended for a game.
Choke a woman and lie about it get a year suspension with the option of getting reinstated any time.
Choke a woman, lie about it and steal her laptop, get banished to wsu
Just kidding. Like I said before, its a tough situation for any coach, much less a new one. I think chip wants to have a clean program. If you think chip has handled it perfectly, fine. It looks a lot like how whitsitt et al handled the jail blazers, but that’s me (see JR Rider, Bonzi and Reuben) .
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
by Gekko Mojo on Mar 13, 2010 1:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Seriously. I also don’t get your Blazer example. Those guys were kept on the team and not given any meaningful punishments ever. CK has kicked people off the team and suspended others based on facts in the legal side as well as how the players respond to the situations. CK just suspended his starting QB that led his team to a Rose Bowl the previous year. If this was a Whisitt situation, he would still be in there because he gave the team a great chance at winning.
I guess I don’t understand what you would have happen.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
You are kidding, right?
The Blazers handed out several minimal game suspensions over that time affecting:
Cliff Robinson
Bonzi Wells
JR Rider
Zach Randolph
Damon Stoudemire
Rasheed Wallace
Shawn Kemp
Darius Miles (I think he had at least two “insubordination” suspensions)
Qyntel Woods (suspended by Blazers before getting suspended by NBA)
…I’m also pretty sure that Strickland got suspended a few different one-game stretches
As far as getting kicked off the team, you could say these attitude issues cost, at minimum Woods, Wallace, Wells their spots on the roster. However, it wasn’t until the Blazers fully committed to cleaning up their image that the wiped the slate clean and got rid of guys like Randolph, Patterson, and Stoudemire.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Hey, there you go, an attempt at evidence!
But a stretch.
I think the key here is that the Blazers gave small punishments to consistent repeat offenders, while (so far) Chip has given some harsh first time punishments and some (maybe arguably) small first time punishments, but there are few repeat offenders and any that have occurred have been nailed to the wall.
Wallace’s spot on the roster, for example, came many years after leading the league in technicals and numerous sanctions, while Blount and Masoli’s got immediate full year suspensions, Embry, Holland, both kicked off for repeat behavior. If LMJ were to have a second incident and get a slap on the wrist, for example, you would have better evidence, but we don’t have any repeat offenders getting slaps on the wrist like the Blazers did. Blount would be the closest thing to a repeat offender treated leniently with missing team meetings prior to the punch, but missing team meetings ain’t the same as carrying pot in tin foil through a metal detector, or driving drunk and handing a police officer your player card since you don’t have a driver’s license.
First time offenders getting small punishments, you could argue UO has that, but not repeat offenders with leniency.
We’ll see, this thesis may prove true years down the road, but it will take years to prove it.
Personally, I don’t see a chance in the world that Chip Kelly’s discipline policy will parallel Bob Whitsitt.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 14, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
This really explains the point I was trying to make. rec
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
This echoes the truth exactly.
But there’s no use typing all this out. Gekko is determined to make his point and believe what he wants to believe, and that’s not going to change…..from here on out, let’s not feed the troll.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 14, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
He isn’t trolling, he’s just expressing a point of view. There is a pretty big difference.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
It’s a fine line….I’ll give you that. I just think he’s being so stubborn that is crosses the line
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 14, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the definition of trolling is when you show up only to express negative opinions.
But at least this time there is some attempt to explain the points, rather than pot shots and only pot shots.
Still, pretty limited effort, it’s mostly single sentence negativity.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 14, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys have got to be kidding me?
You seriously think this isn’t going to hurt recruiting?
I’m shocked, amazed, dumbfounded. You guys are far more blind than I ever expected.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
Florida
40 arrests in 3 years (or something like that). Top recruiting class in the nation this year
I'd bet that would have to do with winning BCS bowl games and national championships.
Something Oregon has nothing in common with.
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
You were talking about double standards earlier?
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
Lear
I agree. Hurts recruiting. If you dont see it you are and idiot.
Icey
by ChicagoQuack503 on Mar 13, 2010 1:50 AM PST up reply actions
Did these types of issues hurt recruiting for Florida and Alabama? Recruits, for the most part, take quite a bit of time to make a decision and the lesson here is clear. If you screw up, there will be consequences. It certainly isn’t great for recruiting but I think the effects on recruiting in the grand scheme are greatly exaggerated.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
In JM's words
“That’s Oregon Football, that’s how we roll”. You lie to the coach, you steal crap, we roll you right out of here.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Fixed.
You lie to the coach, you steal crap, we roll you right out of here suspend you for a year non-conference play, after you start displaying “humility” and “progress” this spring.
Just kidding! (sort of)
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
As I said earlier.
Masoli is awful for the first three games of any season. Thomas (hopefully) will be much better prepared and will maintain starter status.
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
That's hilarious!
I LOVE IT!!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington"
"BOW DOWN TO WASHINGTON"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiY3zBhiZSE
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by CBKWit on Mar 12, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
That game was so much fun to watch. I wanted like nineteen overtimes, with thirty-eight missed field goals.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Masoli is slime.
I wish he was gone.
~ How much for the little girl? Your women - how much for the women? The little girl your 2 daughters, sell them to me, SELL ME YOUR CHILDREN!~
by My Name is Bryce on Mar 12, 2010 4:21 PM PST reply actions
not the first time
I heard this story when traveling to the Rose Bowl. We spent the night at a friends house in the Bay area on the way south and were told that while in high school Masoli was involved in a group (sounds like a gang) who were strong arming other students for protection. Masoli was not charged and evidence was slim, but it now appears that he really does have some character issues.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
Masoli went to high school 5 blocks from where I live back home..
…heard similar stories. Hopefully he learns his lesson this time, although it might be too late.
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by UOSportsDude on Mar 12, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
@Mark_Schlabach:
Kudos to Oregon coach Chip Kelly. Unbelievably bold move.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Lear Pilot thinks Mark Schlabach is an idiot.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
This makes me feel much better.
Honestly, it does. I hope that most share this view towards Coach Kelly after this wave of punishment.
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
It would be nice if he was on top of his players to begin with
I don’t recall these sort of problems during the Bellotti years.
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
uh…you weren’t paying attention.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Bellotti never had a stretch where these things happen all at once, but they happened.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
E.g. his son getting arrested more than once IIRC
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
From CGB
New motto of the University of Oregon: “Hey, at least he didn’t maim her!”
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
Ha.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
That was issued like a month ago and I didn't go to CGB until now I guess.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
i can’t even read it. what’s it say?
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
anytime someone calls someone else racist is hilarious. seriously.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Hahahahaha. I AGREE!
I got one of those warnings as well, for whatever it was I did.
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
ME TOO.
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
I still honestly don't know what you did.
Did you just send a message to Quinn telling him to piss of jtlight?
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
Hahaha that’s funny shit right there
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
Dude I issued that to you like a month ago. JTLight already got all pissed at me already about it. You sock.
CGB's Jimmy Carter
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
You warned me and made it so my only “out” would be to help you overthrow Hydrotech.
Where did that get me?!?!
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
Question
Where do Husky fans get the idea that they’re in any position to moralize about the misdeeds of football players committing crimes, considering UW’s history with players committing crimes (and evading prosecution thanks to boosters) far worse than anything that’s occurred at Oregon?
Just wondering.
There’s a wedding night joke in there somewhere
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
I don't know what we're yelling about.
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LOUD NOISES !!!!!!
Ducks stackin' wins like Leggos, toastin Pac-10 like the Eggos, like we're racin' against some preggos, Dan Patrick we enfuego.
Note to University of Oregon football players: you might want to stay home and skip those house parties this weekend. trust me – the girls will be there next weekend too.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
They probably won’t. Finals week is next week. All the hot California ones are going home.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
There are definitely, definitely hot non-California ones too.
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
by AllSaintsDay on Mar 12, 2010 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed. Although there might be a few hot ones from Northern California, which we know isn’t real California.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
According to signs I saw driving to the Furd game, they’re from Jefferson, right?
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
by AllSaintsDay on Mar 13, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
How dare you, sir!
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
So, for example, there aren't going to be any from Pullman?
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
by AllSaintsDay on Mar 13, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
Wait til we send our hotties down to come screw your team over
by Brian Floyd on Mar 13, 2010 6:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
"Hometown: Pullman, WA"
Thanks for sending her.
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
by AllSaintsDay on Mar 14, 2010 1:03 AM PST up reply actions
There is a reason she didn't go to school in Pullman.
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
On that point, sir, we agree.
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
by AllSaintsDay on Mar 14, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone remember....
… Masoli’s mom writing on Moseley’s blog decrying the article Adam Jude wrote about his high school robbery case? She came to Jeremiah’s defense, saying we have him all wrong… umm, I guess not after all.
by MurphyLPiddleton on Mar 12, 2010 5:23 PM PST reply actions
I went back and forth with Masoli’s dad a few times on email after I wrote, well, that. He came to his defense pretty harshly as well, but what can you expect from a parent?
The UO Sports Dude.com
by UOSportsDude on Mar 12, 2010 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
That is true.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Masoli vs Blount
CK talked about using football as a carrot during LG’s suspension, and LG didnt have another year of eligibility. Since Masoli has an added year of eligibility, I dunno how much stock i’d place in arguments about a similar process for him. Same situation with Kiko Alonso. I just dont see that kind of a plan in place for Masoli, or Alonso for that matter.
QB Situation Next Year:
1st String: Darron Thomas
2nd String: Nate Costa
3rd/4th String: Hawkins/Haines
RS: Bryan Bennett, Jeremiah Masoli (depending on whether or not he bails out)
Amirite?
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 5:53 PM PST reply actions
I could see Thomas or Costa starting next fall, depending on how spring practices go. I could even see Hawkins pushing for time.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
I don't see any way that DT doesn't start,
barring a disastrous spring….so much athleticism, and he has a pretty nice cannon on him too.
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
It’s whoever puts us in the best position to win. If DT comes out inconsistent, and Costa is making good decisions and throwing well, Nate will start.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
That's what I meant by having a disastrous spring.
I think DT is going to have to come out and play horribly if he isn’t going to be the starter…
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
Can anyone help me find a Darron Thomas jersey?
Preferably in white w/ green numbers. I don’t think I can bring myself to keep wearing my Masoli one, but it will go in a box because of the Arizona game.
Only losing THREE starters from the USC game. (Offense and Defense)
Ladies and Gentlemen your 2010-11 Oregon Ducks.
Oregon-Frontrunners for the 2010 Fulmer Cup
by QuackQuackAttack on Mar 12, 2010 6:20 PM PST reply actions
rhetorical question
Should a player be suspended if they punch Ryan Appleby in the face?
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
If you punch Ryan Appleby in the face in the woods and no one is around to hear it, do you get suspended?
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
No,
You get a season-long suspension, reduced to 8 games.
Provided CK is your coach.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2010
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
Was it a bad thing that Hout got clocked?
Think about that.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2010
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
To a lesser extent.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2010
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2010
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Attaboy.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
The punishment shouldn't matter
Okay, so in the interest of full disclosure, I’ll say right now I’m a Beaver fan. However, the Ducks are my 2nd favorite team, and I watched all of their games on TV last year (even on that cursed Comcast SportsNet >_< ) and don’t like Boise State. But!
With all the talk about what punishment was received, what was deserved, and consistency… I think it misses a bigger point. Why should the punishment from the coach really matter?
For most decent people, deciding whether or not to commit burglary or drive drunk has nothing to do with the consequences. It has to do with their sense of right and wrong. It’s obvious that too many people on the team have problems with that sense. Yes, young adults make mistakes, but those mistakes don’t usually involve committing felonies. With Masoli, in particular, the fact that he’s had issues like this before and still continues to have them suggests some character problems. I wouldn’t want that guy on the OSU team, even if it meant losing some games. I’d much rather have people playing on the football team and getting the limited scholarships who I can actually respect.
I remember our years with Dennis Erickson’s recruits, and though they could play football, I can’t say I was really ever proud of the ones that got into trouble. Promoting decency is far better than winning some games.
I’m sure most of the Duck athletes are hard-working, law-abiding students, and it’s sad that a relative few have to tarnish their image.
I do give Coach Kelly his props for waiting for facts before suspending and booting people. There is far too much rushing to condemnation in society these days (Duke Lacrosse case anyone?)
Let me guess:
Your favorite MLB team is the Yankees, 2nd favorite are the Red Sox.
In the NBA, your primary team is the Lakers, but you also pull for the Celtics.
You enjoy both the Redskins and the Giants.
Pacquiao and Mayweather are your 1st and 2nd favorite boxers, respectively.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
and although you really like phil mickelson, you pull(ed) for tiger when he plays.
I can haz footbawl?
Haha :p
Actually, the only sport I really follow is college football. And I’ve lived in Corvallis since the age of 8 (I’m 26 now) so I have a lot of friends who went to the hippie school, er, U of O.
Man, I’ve been in this town way too long _
I completely missed it, as most of you probably did.
But the Duck women dropped their opening Pac-10 tournament game to USC, 80-76. I’m hopeful the Lady Ducks can earn an NIT bid. Pretty good for Paul Westhead’s first year.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Wow
This made top story on Yahoo news right now
Rumor has it that Saturday Night Live will be debuting a new Oregon-themed digital short tomorro night..
Laser Kellys are set to replace the “Laser Cat” series. Laser Kellys will be models of Oregon coach Chip Kelly. They have the ability to shoot lasers out..from their eyes. They are especially effective in harming journalists, specifically a certain “John Clownzano”.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 7:35 PM PST reply actions
You guys hang in there!
give it a few more seasons, and all of the convicts will filter out.
Maybe Kelly will do some decent recruiting and find some players with class instead of shit for brains.
I’m just thankful that WE got a taste of the Ducks when they were “in season”
*Perfection is our goal, excellence will be tolerated*
No, but I can call you Reply Fail.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
Oh god, he’s gonna say it…
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
He won’t, he can’t, there’s no way he’ll do that… will he?
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
Does it rhyme with "Muck Noisy Fate"?
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
damn, i was only away for 5 min.
at least you guys can keep yourselves entertained.
*Perfection is our goal, excellence will be tolerated*
Please stay. We can have so much fun together Kyle.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com
I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
But not as much fun as you have with the axeMILF.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
I’m sad. Kyle, don’t leave.
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
NOOO!!!!!
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
And this my friends is how you get rid of trolls.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com
I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
by qrsouther on Mar 12, 2010 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I declare you Kyle.
Bravo.
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
Ah yes, the "Do you like apples?" approach, well done.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 13, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Oh god here it comes
Wait, the Denver Broncos!
by Brian Floyd on Mar 12, 2010 7:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I wouldnt hide behind him
He goes down like a bitch
by Brian Floyd on Mar 12, 2010 8:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I just found this replay of the Blount punch
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
Addicted to Quack
by Matt Daddy on Mar 12, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I just saw a Hot Tub Time Machine commercial!
I’m waiting.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 8:02 PM PST reply actions
Wrong answer, try again.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
When I say Fuck, you say Hot Tub Time Machine. FUCK!
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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HOT TUB TIME MACHINE!
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
If I had the B&Hammer, I’d beat you with it, then invite you back, then B& you again.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 12, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
Is another crappy generic movie with a ton of recycled jokes!
This off-season officially sucks for SEVEN(!!!!!!!) reasons and counting...
Duck baseball wins again
5-0 over Seattle U. 10-5 on the season.
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psst… This is a DUCKS blog.
I think you are looking for this
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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After reading through this thread I just have one question....
Was Lear Pilot Drunk? I recognize the argument style as one that is used while I am plastered so i just wanted some other opinions
It's way late so this link may have already been mentioned...
but this is a funny (and good) piece from SI.com on the Ducks. I usually don’t like articles that are written this way, but this one made me laugh…especially the Bobby Bowden line about how he used to “pray for a misdemeanor”
You’re a major college football head coach now, or didn’t you get the memo? You’re not supposed to care about character. You’re not supposed to mold young men. You’re supposed to “pray for a misdemeanor,” as Bobby Bowden once did. Most importantly, you’re supposed to win.
With Masoli, you would have won. Don’t you remember the way he dumptrucked that Oregon State defender to make sure you guys won the Pac-10 title? Who cares if he probably carried the laptop he swiped the same way he toted that football? That doesn’t matter. What is important is winning — not whether Masoli leaves school and becomes an honest, productive member of society.
My 2 Cents
Though I jumped on here late tonight, and I just signed up so I can post, I’ve been a Duck fan since I was a little kid.
I believe Kelly errored in one thing in his first season. Not saying that Blount would be suspended indefinitely instead of “For the remainder of the season.” Had he just changed that wording he could have reinstated him. By letting Blount play again he did send a message to all the nay-sayers that he can’t keep his word. Even though I believe he made the right choice in reinstating him.
Other than that, his punishments for today were spot on with what other head coaches have done for the same/similar incidents in the past (Think or Urban Meyer suspending Florida LB Brandon Spikes for first half of Vandy game).
My opinion is we WILL NOT see Masoli on the field in 2010. I even seriously doubt we’ll see him in 2011 either, since by that time the Darron Thomas era will be in full swing. If anyone thought Masoli was good, DT is going to be even better.
Jeremiah doesn’t keep things holy, .000 average when he goes Rose Bowling.
Chip Kelly-Bustin' Out The Banhammer Since 2009
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 13, 2010 10:45 AM PST reply actions
Holy moly, is that my boy Masoli? Runnin’ out the ally with computers that he stoli
Sprintin’ over campus like he lined up as a TZR, too bad he’s a little short to be a JailBlazer
Jeremiah’s smooth like apple cider, now he’s rollin’ like Wynona Ryder
In the court house strolling. Now he’s rolling alone…
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