Quack Fix: Kent's status uncertain, Porter named team MVP, Baseball gets first sweep since 1980
by jtlight on Mar 8, 2010 8:19 AM PST
in Morning Quack Fix
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It was an almost incident free weekend, but after Josh Kaddu's citation, we're resetting the clock just to be safe. On to the non-legal quack!
- The story leaked during the WSU game that this season will be Ernie Kent's last at Oregon, but no announcement has yet been made by the athletic department. But it's not hard to see the signs. Kent was very emotional during the teams awards banquet last night, as his final season as Oregon coach comes to a close. The Ducks still have some basketball to play, with the Pac-10 tournament and a possible NIT or CBI bid. To their credit, the Ducks haven't given up, and have fought hard to finish out the season, and seem very positive about their chances in the Pac-10 tournament. Well, stranger things have happened.
- The main honoree at the awards banquet was Tajuan Porter, who won his second straight team MVP, and will go down as the best shooter in Oregon history. Porter was also given a well deserved ovation after the WSU game. Jeremy Jacob won most improved, while EJ Singler won the award for the best defensive player.
- Unfortunately, the Oregon women did not fare well over the weekend, getting swept at the Washington schools. They lost 62-53 to the Huskies yesterday, but the Ducks still ended up with the 6 seed for the conference tournament, giving them a bye to the quarterfinals. Unfortunately, the Ducks are taking a six game losing streak into the tournament.
- Oregon baseball had a stellar weekend, sweeping Fresno State on the road. The Ducks won all 4 games handily, beating the Bulldogs by a cumulative score of 28-11. The 4 game sweep gives the Ducks a 9-5 record, with 8 of those victories on the road. Oregon plays this weekend at PK Park, with a weekend series against Seattle U.
- In a bit of Pac-10 basketball news, the conference may end up with a second bid! Both Washington and Arizona State are in decent shape to make a run at an at-large spot if either team can make a run to the championship game.
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More notes from non-rev sports: Stunts & Gymnastics won the Northwest Invite 245.06 to 216.88 (Portland State) to 215.45 (Cal Poly), while lacrosse played well but ultimately fell short of #19 Louisville by a score of 13-10, at Mac Court and Papé Field.
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
Can’t wait to hear the outrage over Les Miles’ reaction to Terrance Toliver’s arrest:
“We are going to investigate it thoroughly to find out the facts and then act accordingly.”
Sounds familiar..
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2010-03-07-lsu-players-arrested_N.htm
Les Miles has clearly lost control of his team.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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When the clock shows less than a minute, this is doubly true.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 8, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Pac-10 expansion
Here’s an article that looks at Colorado switching to the Pac-10 that has some interesting numbers both for and against the move.
The alumni base numbers were a little shocking. Nearly four times as many Buffs living in Pac-10 country than the Big XII states? That’s a pretty great reason to switch.
Not a surprise at all, when you think about it.
Boulder is pretty liberal, compared with the red states of the rest of the Big XII. CU grads want to move to paradise, not Kansas or Oklahoma or Nebraska.
For that matter, I’d be interested to see how many Texas grads stay in Texas. Austin’s not quite as lefty as Boulder, but it’s significantly more progressive than, say, Waco, or even Dallas.
everything is history, eventually.
Interesting piece
“The faculty overall on campus in their academic and research work would feel a stronger connection to Pac-10 institutions than to Big 12 institutions,” CU faculty athletic representative David Clough said.
I am still totally lost on the relationship between the conference arrangement, which seems largely based on sports competition, and a school’s academic research and faculty. Despite my ignorance, it is pretty apparent that the schools find it important. And it seems that the quality of institutions in the Pac 10 would make it attractive for CU. So good for us.
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Its because of non-rev sports
Think about it, for most of the Pac-10’s athletes, there will be no pro career and so a key issue in picking a school is academics.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Right, but you’re talking about an individual school. If I’m a track star in high school who also wants to go to an accomplished academic university, why do I care what the academics are like at the other schools in the athletic conference? As long as I get to run track and do research, why do the other schools matter?
Cougfan tried to answer this awhile ago, and I still never really got the connection. It’s obviously THERE, I’m just not seeing it. I’m willing to accept the fact that I’m just dense and not getting it.
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I'm with you and am only offering guesses.
It seems like the conference wants to keep the same ways of having a bunch of research institutions. I guess the way to look at it is that they don’t look at themselves as an athletic conference, but look at themselves as a grouping of schools with similar missions (research and athletics combined). Since a unanimous vote is required, and Stanford has never wanted a mobile home to move in to it’s community of mansions, the conference has continued to stay how it is.
Personally, I really don’t care and I don’t know what the connection is to athletics. But I think that the conference wants to keep its image of not being just athletics, but being well rounded.
Also, holy crap Stanford has $17.2 BILLION in endowments. 5 times the amount the second place school (USC) has.
The Leland Stanford Junior University
Is rich…
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You’re probably right. I just have a hard time believing that the conference would have such a strong motivation to keep the academic prestige when there isn’t some substantial monetary value tied to it. Maybe the marketing benefits of being able to advertise yourself as a conference of athletics AND superior academics are really that lucrative.
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Question mark for Paul Westhead's offensive style?
With all that up-tempo run and gun, it sure seems like the women’s team ran out of gas. Maybe that was predictable for a first season. It will be interesting to see if the team can avoid that in coming years as Westhead inserts more of his own recruits.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
We ran the Westhead system at Grinnell
And the way it worked for us to avoid that is we changed out all five players every 2 minutes, like a hockey line change. It is a tiring style to play but fun.
Westhead is making progress to be sure.
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Tajuan Porter, [who] won his second straight team MVP, and will go down as the best most prolific shooter in Oregon history.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 9:12 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
+1
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
If I had to choose one pure shooter as the 'best' from my 20 years watching Ducks b-ball
it’d be James Davis.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
I dunno...
Ridnour was streaky. Jackson was the best pure shooter from my era (1998 and on). Can’t comment on players before that.
by MurphyLPiddleton on Mar 8, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
jackson was a slasher type too
hence freddie jones doesnt make the list
Innocent until proven guilty.
Speaking of which
I have looked everywhere for a DVD or replay of that Colorado NIT game at Mac Court when he scored the last 24 points of the game. Anyone know of this in existence anywhere?
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
I sold him short...
…it was 29 points in a row, 31 out of the last 33. I got goosebumps reading those articles again just now while Googling for it.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Man do I miss watching the Lukes and Jones play. That was a fun season.
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That's the kind of memory
that kept EK around for so long. It’s just sad that Luke Jackson was the poorest NBA fit of those three guys, because I would’ve loved to keep watching him. Anyone know how he’s faring in Italy?
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
i watched that game at Gypsy in PDX w/ Katy Brown (the channel 2 sportslady), Rob Marciano (cnn weatherguy) and the FoxSportsNW guy who does mariners’ games – Waltz i think.
they came over to me and asked what i was soo excited about (they were out and didnt have access to the game). after a explanation about Jackson going crazy, they hung out, bought a few drinks and watched the whole 2nd half/OT with us. then they sang terrible and hilarious Karoake. who knew we were also watching a future Real World cameo star in David Harrison from Colorado?
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
it’d be James Davis Luke Ridnour John Murray.
Oh, you said 20 years. Never mind.
everything is history, eventually.
If you aren’t old enough to remember seeing a game where there wasn’t a 3-point line, you aren’t old enough to know better, so, you’re excused.
everything is history, eventually.
I only went to Lakers games before 1979,
so I remember those days. Just not as a Duck.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Do I get a keg sticker for that shit?
And no, I’m not paying $123K for it.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 8, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
I remember seeing Orlando WIlliams light it up during the early 90’s. He was Oregon’s career leader in 3’s until Porter surpassed him this year. Davis had a better overall percentage than Williams, though.
Also
I wouldn’t think of Ridnour as a pure shooter. He was the total package PG, and yes, clutch as hell. But comparing Tajuan to Rid is apples and oranges, I’m talking about a sick shooter.
Orlando was pretty great too. And Luke Jackson is my favorite Duck of all time, could light it up like crazy at times (anyone see the NCAA 3-pt cotest in their skills exhibition after his senior year?), but when James Davis had the ball, you knew where it was going.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
well we kinda know where the balls going when TP shoots it
Innocent until proven guilty.
by axemen23 on Mar 8, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Most likely careening off the rim and over the backboard out of bounds…
by MurphyLPiddleton on Mar 8, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Jamie for THREE!!!
Davis had some great nights hitting treys, no doubt benefiting from playing on the same court as Luke, Luke, and Freddie. Too bad he couldn’t put down the last two open shots he got in the 2003 NCAA tourney vs. Utah
guess who found your 1983 yearbook picture today jeremy?
now if you could tell me when other major members of ATQ graduated from SEHS then i’ll put together a little scrapbook of sorts during newspaper ;)
Innocent until proven guilty.
oh i know this one
was it Rob Moseley?
I Don't Yell O I SCREAM!
by trumpetduck on Mar 8, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahaha,
Rec’d.
I have a mancrush on the Maehlman.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 8, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
Ugh. Sophomore year? At least find the ‘85 book where there’s proof I actually lettered in football and baseball. And…back then we actually had newspaper work to do in newspaper class.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
I'll look for the 85 book today
and i’m doing the coverage of the bball teams in portland. soooooo i don’t have to do jackshit till thursday.
Innocent until proven guilty.
I wrote and took pictures, so I always had darkroom crap to do. Of course, no one uses a darkroom any more. Becoming a lost art.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
Other people graduated in 86, 87, 88, 89...
90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99…
00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09…
And some other years too, if I am not porn.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 9, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Personally I didn’t like the ‘90 vintage, I’d also let the ’91 age a couple more years before trying it
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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That's what I love about these high school girls, man.
I get older, they stay the same age.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 10, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
my wife graduated from SEHS, but she's not a member of ATQ
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
Baseball looking good
Doubtful we win the Pac-10 or make the tourney or anything like that but it’s a solid move forward for this young program.
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Beard Pleads Guilty, Gets Probation/Community Service
EUGENE, Ore. — Oregon kicker Rob Beard has pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of physical harassment in a Jan. 24 street fight that left him seriously injured.
The Register-Guard reported that prosecutors on Friday said the 19-year-old Beard was so drunk that he doesn’t remember shoving a woman to the ground before he was beaten unconscious by two men who intervened on the woman’s behalf.
Lane County Circuit Court Judge Maurice Merten sentenced Beard to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service.
The two other men, 19-year-old Kirby Hawkins and 20-year-old Maurice Peterson, each pleaded guilty Friday to misdemeanor assault and were sentenced to 18 months probation.
LINK via the AP and ESPN I can’t link because the Oakland Airport’s Wi-Fi won’t let me, so here’s the link
sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4971743
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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I actually saw Rob Beard walking out of the Y today during lunch.
HIs face still looks a little screwed up.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Lookie here
Another top ranked Oregon team
Source: http://www.golfweekrankings.com/college/mens1/teamrankings.asp
Men’s Golf
1. Oklahoma State.
2. Stanford
3. Augusta State.
4. Texas.
5. Washington.
6. Florida
7. Texas A&M.
8. Florida State
9. Illinois.
10. Oregon
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Given how much good golf there is in Oregon
I’m surprised it took us this long to become a national power. I know it’s the weather, but still.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
ESPN reporting AJ Feely just signed with the Rams
Hope he gets a good shot this time.
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Right but everyone thinks they go with Suh
And that the first QB off the board is..ugh, Jimmy Clausen, another overrated ND QB.
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What I'd been hearing is that Bradford is looking impressive
And the rams are going to be dumping Bulger’s contract. The Seahawks would like one of Bradford/Clausen to fall to 6 but that’s looking less likely. Gotta love the draft
as soon as bradford weighed in at 236 at the combine
the race for top QB was over.
Innocent until proven guilty.
No QB will have the same impact to improving a team as Suh will have. You don’t hesitate to grab DTs rated that high. They make your entire defense better.
There will be a capable QBs in Round 2-3 with McCoy, Pike, and LeFevour if they really want to draft a QB.
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
And besides, Peyton Manning excepted
QBs drafted #1 are more often than not busts.
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You really couldn't be more wrong with your assessment
Quarterbacks:
There were 29 quarterbacks selected in the top 16 of the NFL Draft since 1993…
Hits: 13
Busts: 12
OK: 2
TBA: 2
Defensive Tackles:
There were 33 defensive tackles selected in the top 16 of the NFL Draft since 1993…
Hits: 15
Busts: 15
OK: 2
TBA: 1
Name me a defensive tackle that led his team to a championship.
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by My Name is Bryce on Mar 8, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Holy data manipulation batman! That is such a bullshit article!
I don’t even know where to start… the arbitraries… self-fabricated data…
It’s like comparing apples to celery.
How about we show statistics for EVERY position? Then we MIGHT be able to establish a baseline.
Why put the "selected in the “top 16” when over half of the listed DTs are over the top 10 and ALL but FOUR of the QBs are in the top 10?
Name me a defensive tackle that led his team to a championship.
Give me an effing break. Name me a right guard that’s done that. Name me free safety that’s done that. I’m sorry, but just because the quarterback gets the spotlight, it doesn’t mean the other players on the field aren’t just as much (If not more) of a factor. Quarterbacks are deemed the “leader” because they are the signal callers. They communicate the plays. They read the defenses. Defensive Tackles don’t have that same responsibility.
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Agreed
That should be included in lesson 1 of Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics 101. Why not define hit or miss using some sort of metric, like QB rating compared to average, or tackles/down compared to average. I’m certainly no expert at football statistics, but surely there has to be a better way to measure “Hit” or “Bust” other than “This is how I feel about it.”
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St. Louis has done the safe pick thing in the past.
Carriker – DT
Long – DE
Smith – LT
The NFL is a quaterback driven league. Mediocre QB’s (aside from Dilfer) dont win you championship or generally even get you to the playoffs.
* Why top 16? I wanted to cover the top half of the first round, and anything below that gets distorted. For example, if a No. 20 overall quarterback starts and plays well (but not on a Pro Bowl level) for only 4-5 seasons, is he considered a bust? A top-16 quarterback would be, but a guy who is taken No. 20 isn’t expected to be a perennial Pro Bowler or anything.
Seriously if you refute the guys stuff go through each of the QB’s or the DTs and say where you disagree with him. I really cant. Is it simplistic. Sure but it makes a point.
DT’s bust just as much as QB’s. Think Glenn Dorsey. Everyone thought he was the second coming of Sapp. Two years and he has done nothing. Two sacks, thats it.
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by My Name is Bryce on Mar 8, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
That still doesn’t address:
1) The ridiculous statement about DT’s not leading teams to Super Bowls, or
2) Why exactly Suh would be a bad pick at #1 when he’s the most dominant, NFL-ready player on the board?
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But look at St. Louis just in the past two years, they (of course revisionist history) passed over Matt Ryan for Chris Long and Sanchez in favor of Jason Smith. Maybe Suh is a dominant player, maybe he isn’t (see Glenn Dorsey).
Albert Haynesworth was considered the most dominant defensive tackle but was/is he worth the money the Redskins gave him? Is Suh worth that much money? I would say no, but the best QB would be. Different positional groups are worth more money in the NFL.
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by My Name is Bryce on Mar 8, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
And I dont back down from the claim that DT dont lead to Superbowls. Find me where they did.
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by My Name is Bryce on Mar 8, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
I would say the the New York Giants defensive line as a whole was the main reason for their Super Bowl a couple years ago. That Manning got the MVP in that game was a joke.
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This^
How many defensive tackles had phenomenal seasons/Super Bowls only to get mentioned once or twice because they’re not the QB. It’s not a DT’s fault his position doesn’t get the media attention.
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You could argue the 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs too.
Simeon Rice, Warren Sapp…
The fact that Dexter Jackson got the Superbowl MVP over Simeon Rice was a total joke.
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
2000 Ravens
Somebody already implied it with Dilfer, but that team doesn’t sniff the Super Bowl without Ray Lewis (LB, I know, but still).
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
MLBs are the defensive QBs.
Lewis.
Singletary.
Urlacher.
LT.
Etc.
everything is history, eventually.
"Defense wins championships"
Ever heard of it?
This off-season officially sucks for FIVE reasons and counting...
But look at St. Louis just in the past two years, they (of course revisionist history) passed over Matt Ryan for Chris Long and Sanchez in favor of Jason Smith.
A major fallacy here is you’re assuming they’d have the same production in Location A that they did in Location B.
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
By the way, can we stop the Glenn Dorsey comparison? It’s almost like you have no argument if Dorsey met this “Walter Cherepinsky’s” expectations.
It’s a bit silly to dismiss Glenn Dorsey as a good player. Especially when the only argument I’ve seen against him is that he only has “2 career sacks”.
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I am using Glenn Dorsey as a way to compare the hype that Suh is receiving,
Talk to any KC fan if you dont believe me.
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by My Name is Bryce on Mar 8, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Well
Suh isn’t a bad pick at all, but he may not be THE pick for Stl. They’re going in to this year, if they cut Bulger like I think they will, with AJ Feely and Keith Null as their QBs. As much as I don’t like need based drafting, they don’t need a DT, they do need a QB.
I miss Detroit always taking a WR
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by My Name is Bryce on Mar 8, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Why? Is 2-time Pro-Bowl, 1 time Pro-Bowl MVP, 84.4 Career QB rating Marc Bulger a bad QB? Bulger reached 1,000 completions faster than any quarterback in NFL history. Maybe he’s past his prime – and yes, maybe they need a new QB. But it’s a bit silly to think the next young pup is going to pull a Roethlisberger at a position that is more difficult to make an immediate impact.
People look at the W-L, and blame the leader on the field. Maybe if the rest of the crew did their part (St. Louis’ ’07 OL was a joke), St. Louis might find themselves winning every once in a while.
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He's not a bad QB at all
The reason it’s believed they’re going to drop him is to save money. I don’t think he’s bad at all, but I do think they’re going to cut ties to save money, draft a QB and fill other positions of need. No matter who they draft at 1, they’re going to need to have the money to pay the price.
Picking a QB as the first pick of the draft is a bad way to save money. Matthew Stafford is costing Detroit about $13 million a year. Marc Bulger’s salary should be around half that.
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Bulger is costing ~11MM a year
You beat me to the punch after I looked up his numbers. Either way, that top pick is gonna cost them at least $10 MM a year, whether it’s Suh or Bradford, in my eyes
According to this site
Bulger’s Salary in 2009 was $6.5. He’s already received his signing bonus and crap.
Also, he’s paid too much. And I have my doubts about Bradford’s success – especially in St. Louis.
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Contracts are confusing as hell
Looks like the bonus was decided up front but is spread across the contract to avoid the initial cap hit. So he cost 8.5 last year and who knows this year. I just took his contract and averaged it (horrible way to do it, I know).
I agree about Bradford, or any QBs, success in STL, but they do have SJax and a group of young receivers, so who knows. No matter who they draft at this point, they can’t pay without cutting somewhere and signing Feely to a 2 yr/6 mil agreement seemed to be a sign that Bulger was expendable.
There is generally three sides to a contract.
1. Annual Salary
2. Guaranteed Income
3. Contractual Bonus
Annual Salary is how much he makes annually for duration of the contract and that he is with the team. If a trades before the contract expires, then the team that receives the player pays the remainder of the contract unless they resign as part of the trade.
Guaranteed Income comes in bonuses. Most of it is a signing bonus, so they get the money up front within the first year (Or two if it is a large bonus). They’ll get anything remaining by the time the contract expires, or when the team cuts the player.
Contractual Bonuses are payments the player receives for starting X games, or reaching some negotiated milestones. This isn’t that common for starters, but it happens for a lot of bench warmers. Joey Harrington had something like that when he was with Miami. If I remember correctly, someone in the front office didn’t want him to start his 8th straight game, because then they had to pay him a bonus.
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Yes
And I believe Bulger has no contractual bonuses (I know he has no roster bonuses), so they’re free of that.
They have til March 15th to dump him and not take the hit for it, or at least the big hit.
If I had to guess, the contract is backloaded since it was 6/65 without the bonus, I think. Either way, they’re on the hook for $2 million a year for that signing bonus here.
Point being in all this is that they’re in a crap financial spot and need to free up room and Bulger is the most likely guy they drop. If they really think they can run with Feely at QB, more power to them. In my eyes, it makes it more likely that they take Bradford/Clausen, though.
This whole thing is an argument for relegation in the NFL
If St Louis isn’t able to draft with the sole purpose of making themselves a better football team, then the NFL is a fraud.
Of course, I despise the NFL, so I may be the wrong person to ask.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
If you think Bulger is a decent QB, wow!
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by My Name is Bryce on Mar 8, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously if you refute the guys stuff go through each of the QB’s or the DTs and say where you disagree with him. I really cant. Is it simplistic. Sure but it makes a point.
A. I’m at work. I don’t have time for that.
B. How many of those DT’s have you heard of? Probably less than the QBs.
DT’s bust just as much as QB’s.
Who probably bust just as much as probably everyone else. Who really knows? He didn’t provide a baseline. Most DT’s that come in are not even close to the skill and physical level of Suh. Maybe he’ll be a bust, but his college production shows that he could also be one of the most dominate DTs in the history of the game.
Think Glenn Dorsey. Everyone thought he was the second coming of Sapp. Two years and he has done nothing. Two sacks, thats it.
Everyone that compared Dorsey to Sapp has no business analyzing college football. They are two different players in two different positions. Dorsey is DE on a 3-4.
DT statistics need to be thrown out the window completely when you judge them. If they can get statistical production, that’s great! But that isn’t their job. They are suppose to to tie up the offensive line, and create opportunities for other people. Example: Jamal Williams – one of the greatest DT. He played 11 years with San Diego. 13 Career sacks. Haloti Ngata – a freak of nature and considered one of the top DTs. 4 years in the NFL, 6 sacks.
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
Dorsey was drafted as a defensive tackle though
His team moved to a 3/4. Kiper had him at the top of his board, not that he is the end all be all (see Mike Williams)
Would you guarantee $40 million to a defensive tackle? I dont think even the best tackle is worth that. Peyton Manning/Tom Brady are though.
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by My Name is Bryce on Mar 8, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Dorsey wasn't compared to Sapp? huh...
that only took me a minute though
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by My Name is Bryce on Mar 8, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Everyone that compared Dorsey to Sapp has no business analyzing college football.
I didn’t say they didn’t compare him to Sapp. I said they have no business analyzing college football. (Though I didn’t mean to say “college”)
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"
You are so right. everyone else is wrong. fuck it, you dont need any links or anything.
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by My Name is Bryce on Mar 8, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
How is he supposed to link to his own opinion? I could say “bison are a totally underrated animal” and don’t need evidence to back it up. It’s an opinion. Calm the eff down.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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they are also delicious.
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by NEP on Mar 8, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Bison steaks are irrefutable evidence that vegetarians are wrong.
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this is a pointless argument
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by My Name is Bryce on Mar 8, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Welcome to the Internet. It’s nothing but pointless arguments and porn. Sometimes both at once.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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Example.
Pornstar A: Your tits are too big.
Pornstar B: Your dick is too big.
Pornstar A: This is pointless, let’s fuck again!
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Your opinion is Axemen.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 8, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
A more realistic assessment..
How many of the top 10 players at each position selected in each draft are starting in the NFL 10 years later?
After all, draft positions vary from year to year. One season might see a glut of DTs, the next a bounty of OGs and TEs.
But linemen tend to have longer careers than the skill-position people, except QB.. and the highly drafted QB who comes in right away and has an immediate positive impact is rare (for every Sanchez, there’s an Alex Smith and a Matt Leinart).
Grabbing the top 10 by position regardless of where they were drafted can tell you a lot about the relative quality of the draft that year, if you go out far enough.
Suh isn’t just a safe pick. I’m guessing Suh will be a dominant player in the NFL for many, many years. STL’s decision has to be if they can AFFORD to pay him #1 pick money — and whether they can get enough in trade to make giving him up worthwhile.
everything is history, eventually.
All-conference teams out
Singler is the only Duck on them as an honorable mention all-freshman team candidate.
Saw this article today in Saturday’s R-G which has gone unQuacked:
Since 1967, the UO has had 11 athletic directors, six men’s basketball coaches, six head football coaches, five sports information directors and six presidents.Still Quackin’
And one public-address announcer for UO football and men’s basketball.
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
The problem is
that he’s senile enough to think it never rains on Autzen Stadium.
Kidding, I love me some Essig!
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Make that senile AND incontinent.
"I almost pooped my pants," Essig said.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
If you Google
‘it never rains’ stadiumyou see results for two college football stadia. I’ve been rained on at least once at each of them.
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
by AllSaintsDay on Mar 8, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
My favorite moment at Autzen
Essig doing his “It never rains at Autzen stadium!” during a sleet/hailstorm in the ’01 Civil War.
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When Stanford came in 08 and he said “Sprinkles and drizzles don’t count; it never rains at Autzen Stadium.”
And when it was misting waiting at the top of the student section before SC, and stopped pretty much right when we got in. We all know why.
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
by AllSaintsDay on Mar 8, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
The Cal game in '05 was like that too
In the middle of a major rain storm. I started laughing when we did that.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
If I remember correctly, he said something to the tune of, “We seem to have lost our weather report” that day
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I remember the UW game in '02..
.. when we lost in a downpour of rain and 42 unanswered Fuskie points, and Essig said something to the effect of “it’s time to retire that phrase once and for all.”
I don’t think I was too drunk to remember this correctly.
everything is history, eventually.
I must not have been there that day
I don’t remember that at all. That game was probably one of the few I missed while I went to school there.
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“Missed” isn’t the right word.
You picked the best day possible to have something better to do.
I think we were ahead like 14-12 at halftime. I was standing in line for a dog chatting with other random fans, and the consensus confidence level was below zero.
The worst part was watching the hucking fuskies jumping up and down on the O at mid-field. That was brutal. I hope they enjoyed it, because that was the last time they managed to beat us.
I’ve been to some brutal games at Autzen over the years, but that one was probably the worst overall experience. Usually, when we get stomped like a narc at a biker rally, at least the weather cooperates. (notable exception — in ’79, losing to UCLA 30-3 in a sleetstorm was pretty gruesome)
everything is history, eventually.
Fog Bowl 1993 was my worst
We got a keg of Pyramid Hefeweizen for the tailgate. Not only was it brutal cold in the Boy Scout parking lot (way too cold for beer…omg did I just say that?), but my buddy decided to plan ahead and TAP THE KEG THE NIGHT BEFORE.
We still haven’t let him off the hook. If there’s anything worse than cold beer in the freezing cold and fog, it’s cold FLAT beer in the freezing cold and fog.
Oh yeah, the game sucked too. 15-12 Beavs.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
i nominate the Indiana game as the worst ever attended. It was a heavy down pour…or maybe that was the 18 turnovers and the weather was fine…
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by NEP on Mar 8, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
A heavy downpour of SUCK! BAM!
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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these are all good nominees, or should i say bad
i vote uw in the downpour, that, how shall i put it, sucked the big one.
let’s never speak of these games again, things have changed.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 8, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
no downpour
but getting our asses kicked 55-16 by Wazzu the week after beating #3 Michigan is the worst game I’ve ever attended.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
On the contrary, that was the best game I watched (never been to Autzen, sadly)
All while texting a buddy who went to Oregon. He stopped texting back after a while.
Yeah, that one was nice and sunny. I remember a long run (whether it was an actual running play or a punt/kick return, I’m not sure) that I think made it 14 – 3 or something. After that, the floodgates (no pun intended) opened. I think the Cougs had 42 points by halftime or something ridiculous like that.
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I have to take this softball
38-2 in the first half. You guys got a safety in the first quarter.
Link the the box score if you want to relive the magic.
I’ll bet you have that url memorized so you can access it at any internet-capable computer terminal, just in case.
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Meanwhile over at the Dam...
They are worried about Oregon’s brand
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
i’m curious to know what others think the Oregon brand actually is cuz i dont think, even in the worst possibly scenarios, any of this hurts the brand. Does Oregon football monopolize the brand? i say no. i can’t think of one instance where off-field events determine the brand except for SMU in the 80’s.
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by NEP on Mar 8, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
well if Kobe Bryant or Mike Vick can’t hurt that brand, i’m fairly sure Chip Kelly and Oregon Football can’t…(stepping down from the pulpit)…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Mar 8, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
And I'm going to argue that alcohol improves it.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
I know my brand awareness is heightened.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
Dude that's not your brand awareness alone
But it works.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
It’s not hard to be the “most prolific” 3 point shooter in Oregon history when you take about 50 of them per game…
I have a mancrush on the Maehlman.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 8, 2010 5:19 PM PST reply actions
Greetings, Captain Obvious!
And sorry about that sarchasm I left in my wake.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
OT
Gonzaga and Oregon future head coach are getting everything they can handle right now from Saint Mary’s (school of Oregon’s former head coach).
42-38 Gaels
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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Alma Mater of....
Patty MIlls!
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 8, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
Saint Mary’s might actually take down the Zags
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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They're going to
Don’t know what this does to the bubble since I can’t decide if St. Mary’s was in or not. Lunardi says yes. So, the Pac-10 and WCC may get the same number of bids….awesome.
No I think Gonzaga will get an at large. Meaning the WCC will have more than the Pac :)
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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ASU wins the Tourney, Cal gets an at-large bid.
In my opinion.
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 8, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
Fixed
ASU won’t win s the Tourney, Cal gets an at-large bid will
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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Incorrect
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 8, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
I would love it if Gonzaga fired Few.
Hey Gonzaga, “Fire Mark Few!”
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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Nice to see the baseball team playing well.
We could have title contenders within a few years.
This off-season officially sucks for FIVE reasons and counting...
Horton is an elite coach and recruiter. He has the facilities and capabilities to do it.
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 8, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Clownzano claiming DUcks are going after PJ Carlesimo for their new coach
Interesting.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Hahahah.
Whenever I hear Carlesimo, I will always think of the Latrell Sprewell incident.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 8, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
He was a good coach at Seton Hall
Before he came to the NBA.
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I'm not a big fan of his creepy beard
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 8, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Why do I have a hard time believing him
I have a feeling his “sources” in the department would either
a) tell him to fuck off
b) feed him bullshit
If you’re saying Carlesimo would be a good coaching pick, I couldn’t disagree more.
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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He took Seton Hall to a national title game
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
22 years ago…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Mar 8, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously, in the 80’s. And really what of significance has he done since? Fired from 4 jobs, and he’s 60.
Now I’m not prejudiced against the elderly, but do you really see a 60 year old coach reinvigorating the Ducks basketball program? I don’t.
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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if we hire an old NBA guy, i want Hubie Brown. maybe if he’s tired of the NBA grind, Adelman wanted the Univ of Portland job a few coaches ago. he’s a great offensive guy.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Mar 8, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Hire Ron Jeremy!
…a.k.a Stan Van Gundy
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
And team movie night at coach’s house could perhaps take a previously uncharted course.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
What about that guy we got for the women's program? Saul Westhouse or something?
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Paul Westhead
would basically kill dunigan/crittle with all the running
Innocent until proven guilty.
50% of the athletic department tells Canzano
that Carlesimo is a lock.
by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 8, 2010 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
And the other 50% laughs
As Clownzano takes the bait.
Seriously, if you read his story on the front page of the O’s site it includes delusions of a Nike plot to get a certain type of coach at the Matt.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
His parents didn't believe in him
why should I?
--Dave
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by David Piper on Mar 8, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
Greenery!
Did you know that playing in the SEC makes your football team inherently better than everyone else's?
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Mar 8, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
You bring about a damn good point.
You sir, deserve a Rec
This off-season officially sucks for FIVE reasons and counting...
Please tell me that’s just someone playing a bad fucking joke on Canzano.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
Upon furhter thought
i agree, tis BS.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I’m not saying Carlesimo would be the worst hire ever, but with so many dynamic young coaches out there? Surely we can do better than a re-tread. I laughed when I saw someone mention Lavin. Now I’m just at a loss.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
Someone fed him a line and he bit it
I have to believe that’s what happened. Someone is using Canzano like USC used one of their beat writers while they were hiring Kiffin (Hey, look over here we like: Sark and a bunch of other guys).
Worthy of consideration:
Tony Barbee – UTEP
Ben Jacobson – Northern Iowa
Stew Morrill – Utah State
All these guys do is win a lot of basketball games.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
Canzano < Billy Madison
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
I feel this is necessary
Mr. Canzano, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Canzano: Okay, a simple “wrong” would’ve done just fine
Adrian Wojnarowski: Via Twitter (@WojYahooNBA)
In past decade or so PJ Carlesimo turned down ND and St. Johns and has always told me CBB holds no appeal to him. Oregon would surprise me.
PJ came to hate recruiting when he left SHU in 90s, and it’s only more distasteful now. He loves pro lifestyle — even as asst. or radio-tv.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Is there any chance this leads to Sprewell joking out Canzano?
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 9, 2010 12:58 AM PST up reply actions
No, you're right, it's obvious that The Michael is faster than The Trell.
My parents don't believe in Canzano either.
by Bill Musgrave on Mar 9, 2010 5:32 AM PST up reply actions
Steelers and Dixon
Have you guys been hearing the new story about Big Ben and the alleged sexual assault?
I know hundred million dollar superstars don’t go to jail for this stuff, but with it being the second accusation in a year, on top of his motorcycle crash a couple years ago, I wonder how it impacts Dixon. Does he become even more important because they wonder if one day their star QB is going to go too far and get himself arrested or suspended? Or might a bad team like the Rams try to pick up Dixon for cheap (if they drafted a DT over a QB) and let him compete?
My favorite line from
Behind the Steel Curtain about this whole situation…
Call Dennis Dixon and tell him to start getting in some work with the WR’s.
Well Canzano, maybe your parents didn’t believe in you.
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Call the defensive backs and tell them to start playing better.
The only Steeler game I watched is obvious, and the DB’s played terrible against the Ravens.
This off-season officially sucks for FIVE reasons and counting...
Kyle Whittingham has lost control of his Utah football team:
“We plan to wait until the legal process has run its course before we make a decision on Tyler,” Whittingham said in a statement.
commenting on a top QB recruit who recently got into a little scuffle w/ his HS baseball coach and expelled from school.
http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool/rise/football/news/story?id=4977233
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
even better:
According to The Press-Enterprise of Riverside, the incident took place in a school conference room. Shreve, his parents, Redlands East Valley principal John Maloney and Cordes were all present. Shreve attacked Cordes after he informed the group of his decision to dismiss Shreve for not going to class and not respecting the coaching staff.
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by NEP on Mar 8, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
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