Quack Fix: Ducks enter another week without a basketball coach, baseball and softball suffer losses
by jtlight on Apr 19, 2010 7:10 AM PDT
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PrintThe Ducks still don't have a coach, after getting turned down again, this time by Missouri's Mike Anderson over the weekend (and it wasn't a tough decision for Anderson). So once again we're sitting here asking, what next?
- The latest rumor (within the current college ranks) is former Alabama Mark Gottfried. He was mentioned by Andy Katz yesterday, and is also the subject of Bob Clark's piece today. But are the Ducks interested in Gottfried? At this point it seems doubtful, as Gottfried has contact Oregon, with little reciprocation. While there are countless good coaches out there, I'm quickly losing confidence that the current search team can find the right guy. In Katz' article, he mentions "there is a split among the Duck hierarchy as Kilkenny who wants to find a solid coach that might not have the star name while Nike officials want a headline name with a new arena opening next season." If this desire to find a coach with a name wins out, I fear that we'll end up with an incompetent name. I hope I'm wrong.
- Oregon baseball had a great weekend, winning a series at #1 UCLA, but their shortcoming caught up with them on Sunday, as they fell 5-1. The Ducks fielding has been sketchy all season long (they rank last in conference in fielding percentage) and it hurt them again yesterday, as they gave up 4 unearned runs in the first inning. You can't afford give extra outs to any team, especially a team as good as UCLA. Yet, despite ending the weekend on a sour note, the Ducks are at .500 in conference, and have proven they can play with any team in the country.
- The Oregon softball team put up a fight, but couldn't get the series win against the top ranked Washington Huskies. Husky star pitcher Danielle Lawrie two-hit the Ducks en route to the 1-0 victory. The win puts the Huskies at first in the conference, though the Ducks are still in second with a 6-3 record in conference play.
- The NFL draft kicks off on Thursday night, and one of the big stories will be LeGarrette Blount, and his rise since that disastrous night in Boise. The Statesman-Journal has a long piece on Blount. He's quite confident in his ability, and he'll get a chance. Should be fun to see where he ends up.
- Chris Brown of Smart Football had a couple good posts over the weekend. First, they compared the spread when it first started appearing, at Clemson under Woody Dantzler, to the spread engineered by Chip Kelly. The constant is innovation, and Chip's ability to innovate gives me confidence in our offense next season no matter who is at QB. Second, Chris had a post on reconciling football statistics and old-school scouting as NFL teams prepare for the draft.
Got any other quack? Thoughts on the coaching search? Leave it below. GO DUCKS!
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The story I've been hearing
is that there’s a rift between Nike Brass and Pat Kilkenny over the type of coach we hire. Nike wants a splash, PK2 wants an up-and-coming winner
I can haz footbawl?
That’s what I heard as well. Do you have a link on this? I swear I read it over the weekend, but then couldn’t remember where.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
It was from this Andy Katz article. Here’s the relevant quote:
But there is a split among the Duck hierarchy as Kilkenny who wants to find a solid coach that might not have the star name while Nike officials want a headline name with a new arena opening next season.
Not at all
I’m terrified that this approach is going to land us someone like Carlesimo. The best we could probably realistically do under that approach is Adelman or maybe Lon Kruger (this would be the most ideal out of the three). I’d much rather go after a Mike Rice or Cameron Dollar. Dollar would be a monster recruiter.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
Thanks for that Nick. I somehow didn’t recognize it was in an article I linked. I’ve updated the quack fix with this quote.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
This is a bit reminiscent of the Blazers front office situation
With the rift between KP and Allen and his Vulcan buddies. Why cant the rich guys let the smart guys do their job?
"The code word for going on two might be, you know, "Mickelson,’’ because he always comes in second – stuff like that.'’
by trumpetduck on Apr 19, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Because the rich guys think that they’re also smart guys (which is usually true, although for different reasons).
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Here, I'll do it.
I appoint Gorby as GM of any future franchise that Nate might purchase.
I am not Bill Bufton.
by Bill Musgrave on Apr 19, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting that you never specified that it had to be a sports franchise...
Gorby, get ready to be the manager of a McDonalds.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
I appoint CaDuck as eternal McDonalds deep fry cleaner.
I am not Bill Bufton.
by Bill Musgrave on Apr 19, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Eternal!!??
Thats like, almost as long as Avatar!
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
I really don’t understand this “rift”. We went after big splasy hires and couldn’t get them. Now we need a solid coach, not an over the hill or washed up splashy hire.
by westspec on Apr 19, 2010 8:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
its my fault
I caught them with a box of tea. I wasn’t going to say anything, until they defiled it with ice and sugar.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
I'm pretty certain it's because she had a beard without a waiver.
I am not Bill Bufton.
by Bill Musgrave on Apr 19, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
For all those columnists
Complaining about the Pac-10 having no interest in BYU because it isn’t a good “cultural fit” and calling it nonsense…
Exhibit D?
How do we really know that Katz is right about the rift?
He hasn’t had any more insight into our search that any of the rest of us have. For all we know he is just speculating . . . again. Who do you think at NIKE or the AD is spilling the beans about a rift between them?
As for Gottfried, when you google his name, the top stories are all about an affair with a student as the reason why he stepped down midseason. Maybe that’s why we aren’t reciprocating interest.
You know the coaching search has been going on for a long time when reporters start asking the football coach what they would like to see in a basketball coach. However, here’s the best part of the blog entry:
So I asked him what he would be looking for in a basketball coach if he were athletic director (and I apologized for not only asking him a hypothetical but also giving him the thought of being an athletic director)…
Son of a....
“I thought the guy at Washington State was awesome (Tony Bennett). Those kids played every single defensive possession like it was for the national championship. To me, it was an exciting 45-44 game, you know?
by Brian Floyd on Apr 19, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Oregon Baseball is ranked 18th in the nation according to Baseball America!!
by Duckfan214 on Apr 19, 2010 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It's too bad that we aren't supposed to be competitive for years.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
it needs more than 0 recs
"The code word for going on two might be, you know, "Mickelson,’’ because he always comes in second – stuff like that.'’
by trumpetduck on Apr 19, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
ESPN Classic
Is showing the ’06 Oklahoma game right now.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
A.K.A. – the game I yelled so loud I scared my infant son to tears.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
We went to the softball games last weekend
The huskies’ pitcher was on the Canadian Olympic team and pitched all 3 games – complete games. She apparently has something like 25 complete games so far this year.
*cough cough* roids *cough cough*
Only losing THREE starters from the USC game. (Offense and Defense)
Ladies and Gentlemen your 2010-11 Oregon Ducks.
Oregon-Frontrunners for the 2010 Fulmer Cup
by QuackQuackAttack on Apr 19, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I know there’s no rule against this, but it just seems wrong to me. Should there be a rule that limits the amount of innings or appearances a pitcher can make? I think so. Just my opinion, but I think the fact that she could do this makes the sport much less interesting.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
We weren't expecting to see her all three games
but she is apparently considered the best player in the country. At least we beat her in the second game.
The article about the evolution of the spread,
Just makes me miss Masoli.
Dammit Quack Fix!!!
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Why Nate would be interested
Maybe Nate wouldn’t make the $$ he is making in the NBA, but coaching 30 or so games compared to the NBA schedule and travel? And our next coach won’t exactly be in the poor house. Really, how much money does one person need?
NO
You think coaching is all there is to NCAA basketball? The travel schedule is far worse. When you’re not coaching, you’re traveling around recruiting. If it’s a time the coach can’t be there in person, he’s evaluating tape and making calls.
The answer is no and will continue to be no. Nate has a good job and a front office that handles all his scouting and player needs. All he has to do is coach and develop his players.
NBA coaches don’t take college jobs unless they have to. It’s not like the NFL where they bounce back and forth.
Can anyone name a current NCAA coach who spent more than one season as an NBA head coach?
BENZDUCK FOR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR!
Why the hell not?
by benzduck on Apr 19, 2010 6:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And although I wouldn't call it coaching, Zeke was another
Those are the two off the top of my head.
Larry Brown coaches the Charlotte Bobcats...NBA
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 19, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
ooops sorry I misread the question. Anyway, I agree rarely to guys who coach in the NBA drop down to the NCAA and much less when they are a successful NBA coach like Nate McMillan. I think we can pretty safely scratch Nate off the potential coaching hire.
Most inexplicably NOT Clark Kellogg?
Addicted to Quack
Tarkanian never coached in the NBA and has been out of coaching since '02
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 19, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what not fact checking and posting on ATQ on minimal sleep will do to you. Forgot about his short stint with them
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 19, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, for about two weeks.
BENZDUCK FOR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR!
Why the hell not?
by benzduck on Apr 19, 2010 8:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You could add Tim Floyd to that last since he is back at UTEP
Most inexplicably NOT Clark Kellogg?
Addicted to Quack
Ok, but neither Calipari nor Pitino were that successful
I am shocked that none of you alleged Duck fans thought to call me on Paul Westhead.
BENZDUCK FOR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR!
Why the hell not?
by benzduck on Apr 19, 2010 8:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Paul Westphal coached a Pepperdine for several years
between NBA stints.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
Westhead has something Westphal probably won't ever get.
BENZDUCK FOR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR!
Why the hell not?
by benzduck on Apr 19, 2010 8:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
CGB would like to invite you learn about the 2009 Pac 10 conference champs and their coach Mike Montgomery
Most inexplicably NOT Clark Kellogg?
Addicted to Quack
I'm not too sure that the Warriors can be considered an NBA team though.
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 19, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I should have said successful coach.
BENZDUCK FOR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR!
Why the hell not?
by benzduck on Apr 19, 2010 8:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I hate Joakim Noah.
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 19, 2010 5:52 PM PDT reply actions
Glad to know.
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 19, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It was enjoyable watching the Chris Lofton-era Tennessee teams consistently beat the Noah-era Florida teams' asses.
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 19, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet you really enjoyed those teams winning back to back titles, then.
BENZDUCK FOR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR!
Why the hell not?
by benzduck on Apr 19, 2010 8:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, let me tell you. Let me also tell you how much I loved the no-call that the refs gave us when Oden hacked Ramar Smith at the buzzer in the ’07 Sweet Sixteen. Let me tell you…
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 19, 2010 8:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
At least LeBron kicked his ass tonight.
Joakim, 40 points, 8 assists and 8 rebounds are the by-product of pissing off LeBron James. Take note.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
I have no opinion on the matter, but that sounds like the Terrell Owens effect.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
Except Ownes us a huge jackass that rips teams apart.
Noah’s team loves him and he’ll do anything to help the team. Every good team needs a player like Noah.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I’m just a casual NBA fan. I would call myself a Cavs fan, only because there’s not really a fanbase for any team here in TN and because it’s where virtually all my family is from. I’ve been to a game or two for the past few seasons. I like guys from a variety of teams, but Noah is a jackass.
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 19, 2010 8:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
No Grizzlies fans, eh?
I wonder if they wish they were back in Vancouver right now?
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
I’m sure they do. At least not in Memphis, anyway. No one gives a shit about the Grizzlies…Although the Hawks are closer geographically to here. 3-3.5 hours to Atlanta (depending on traffic) vs. 6 hours to Memphis
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 19, 2010 8:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, no one gives a shit about the Hawks either.
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 19, 2010 8:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
so you could just say
nobody gives a shit about basketball in Tennessee. What about the preds?
I can haz footbawl?
Well, they do about college basketball now that Pearl has turned around UT’s bball program. I’m a casual Preds fan. I went to a game a couple years ago and it was a packed house…but….it’s hockey in the southeast. Your assumption is correct. No one cares.
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 19, 2010 8:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Lil' Gorby auctions update
Matt’s going to have a post up later about our conversations with the nice lady from the OIF, and our plans for sponsoring a kid or two at a national convention that’s in portland. Also I shipped all 3 of the items I had in my possession today. Thanks again for all the support.
I can haz footbawl?
Do we even know what we want?
We’ve looked at coaches with completely different styles, young guys, old guys, defensive coaches, offense minded gunners… what the hell do they want the Oregon Ducks basketball program to be? After a point it’s crazy to go after names and just settle on what the identity of this program will be going forward, and find a guy who fits the vision of everyone involved.
A big name won’t win games or develop players. It was nice to take a shot but the writing is on the wall: we aren’t Kentucky, we aren’t loaded with talent or fat with tales of past victories. Go find a guy who fits the program and let the quality of his team sell the tickets.
How many more guys do you think will transfer before we get a coach?
Can’t blame them if they look to catch on with a team before all the spots are taken by incoming freshmen. We are digging a gigantic hole that might be hard to get out of the longer this drags on.
Jones is taking his last official to Kansas, by the way
I don’t see much of a chance Oregon gets signees in the late period at this point, either.
look on the bright side
at least we’re being considered, even without a coach. OSU just gets laughed at.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
That feels nice
I guess. but “obamas broski” will have pull in a few years is what I fear.
by IndustrialRevolution on Apr 19, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sorry but if guys want to go play in that molasses style offense, inside that barn they call a gym in front of 2000 people (non-students) that all share 4 teeth, by all means, good luck. We’re not losing recruits to OSU any time soon. I’m personally ashamed of what that program has become.
Mark my words, Robinson is going to be looking for another job real soon, and not because OSU doesn’t want him.
Most inexplicably NOT Clark Kellogg?
Addicted to Quack
He already is
He’s a one man PR firm right now doing interviews and writing books.
by Brian Floyd on Apr 19, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m personally ashamed of what that program has become.
Why?
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Because OSU used to be a dominant team in the Pac in terms of basketball and had some really good coaches, players and rep. Now their style of play is pathetic, they get excited if they get to pay to play games in the CBI and they can’t pull a serious recruit in the state of Oregon to save their life. They used to be a bball school first and football was an after thought, and now they’re just happy to get named for a couple of years in the same breath as the president (not because of what they do on the court). Lastly, nobody in Salem, Corvallis or Portland even care about bball at OSU. Gary Payton doesn’t even contribute to that school… it’s a shame.
Most inexplicably NOT Clark Kellogg?
Addicted to Quack
As you know, I grew up watching a lot of OSU basketball (I respected Terrell Brandon and Oregon) but I watched a lot of OSU, and their crowds, games and play were fun (Gary Payton dropping 52 on USC and running by their bench and yelling at the coach, “get someone out here who can guard me”).
Most inexplicably NOT Clark Kellogg?
Addicted to Quack
Oh where are thou Charlie Sitton and the Beaver glory days?
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
The decision to hand the team to Jimmy Anderson when Ralph Miller left was the crucial error.
Miller was the legend that brought the likes of Steve Johnson, Ray Blume, Mark Radford, AC Green, Charlie Sitton, and Gary Payton to Corvallis. That Johnson/Blume/Radford team carried a #1 ranking at some point around 1980.
Anderson was his loyal long time assistant that everyone liked, but I think his only strength was the ability to go out recruiting and say “come play for Ralph Miller”. Watching that team go from Miller to Anderson was incredible, no coaching, no recruiting.
I am not Bill Bufton.
by Bill Musgrave on Apr 20, 2010 5:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't mean that we would get any signees
I meant that our guys might want to transfer so as to get a spot on another team’s roster before that team’s spot went to a freshman signee.
We’ve blown this year for signees.
Nah, I know
Was responding to Dave.
I wouldn’t worry about guys transferring right now. The guys you have will stay until there’s a coach. If they’re borderline players, they stay to see if they get a better shot at PT. I know this one because we just went through it.
I said fringe players
Not end of the bench players. I’m talking ones where you say “Hmm, this could hurt” or ones that are part of the regular rotation.
For a little while I was starting to PANIC,
But at this point, I have lost a lot of confidence in terms of the coaching search.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
I think you worded that a little better than I did.
“Lost interest” is more accurate than “lost confidence” in my opinion.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
We're buying seats in the new arena and planning to drive
from Portland to games. We’ll give some of our tickets to other members of my family, but I care big time about who we get to coach us. We now see what good coaching has done to our golf, softball, baseball, and track & field teams. Don’t see how a new coach can’t do something similar to our basketball program, but right now, we’re on the verge of circling the drain.
Not sure anybody here would catch an Elvis Costello reference,
regardless of age.
Oh, except for me.
by HoodRiverDuck on Apr 20, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Elvis Costello was my first concert, when I was seven years old.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Mine was Ziggy Marley.
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 20, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
No way!
That was my first concert. Ziggy Marley/Common Sense.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Cool. He was doing a free concert downtown and I went.
Jason Heyward's Swing is Equivalent to an Eddie Pleasant Hit.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 20, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm wondering if going after an AD first, then coach might be the best remedy here.
Then the prospective coach actually knows what he’s getting into, might bring real and perceived stability to the department and make the job a lil’ more attractive.
Put the coaching search on the back burner a little bit and get the AD set.
Or is it just critical to have a coach in place immediately?
I am not Bill Bufton.
by Bill Musgrave on Apr 20, 2010 5:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Coach is far more critical than AD
AD can be filled by an interim, and usually is. Coach cannot, especially with recruiting and the like.
Except the fact that most coaches want to know who their boss is prior to taking a job.
Damn thee, eternal circular conundrum.
I am not Bill Bufton.
by Bill Musgrave on Apr 20, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
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