Dana Altman: Hired to Bring Consistency to Oregon Ducks Basketball
So it appears that the PK's have finally come to a consensus about going after a coach that was not a big name, splashy, marquee guy, and they've settled on Dana Altman from Creighton University; a Jesuit university in Omaha, Nebraska.
Dana Altman has been a coach going on 30 years now. His reputation is impeccable. He's known as a coach who will get his players to work hard, he'll capitalize on weaknesses of opponents, and play to the strengths of his own players. He's a serious X's and O's coach and his teams always play defense. He made the NCAA Tourney 7 out of 9 years and appeared in (legit) post season play 12 years in a row. He's coached at small schools (Southeast CC, Moberly CC, Western State), a big school (Kansas State ‘90-‘94) and mid-majors (Marshall '89-'90 and Creighton '94-'10).
There's a lot to like about this hire. What Oregon lacked in consistency of play and results will quickly be remedied by Altman. He is a measure of consistency. At KSU he had records of 16-14, 19-11, and 20-14. At Creighton during his Tourney runs he had records of 22-9, 23-10, 24-8, 23-9, 29-5, 20-9, 23-11, 20-10, 22-11, 22-11, 27-8. That's an impressive 11 straight years of 20 wins or more. Looking at some of the metrics (see below) you can see that his teams have done a good job of playing defense. I will not say that Altman's teams play up tempo (his highest efficiency years [points per possession] were in the 114 range, while Oregon had a couple of years in the 120 range). But his teams have done a very good job of playing defense (his highest Defensive Efficiency FG % was 49.6% in '05, while Oregon's lowest was 49.1% in '05).
There are really only three categories that are of concern when it comes to Atlman:
1. Turnovers - Even in some of his higher win years, Altman's teams have not had a very good turnover percentage. We definitely aren't getting a coach that is going to a ball control, don't take chances, vanilla offense. I'm really interested to see how that plays out at a major conference where 18 games a year, the teams know you, are prepared for you and your personnel and the average player is at a higher level than some of the mid majors he's faced, especially when you're not playing an up tempo style of offense.
2. Averages - He's an average coach. His stats are really pretty average across the board. There really isn't one area that you look at and you're blown away by his team's performance. Sure he's succeeded at a mid major, but would we want a coach that hasn't? His age is rather average for a coach (51), and for all intents and purposes, there aren't a lot of reasons to get overly excited that he decided to coach at Oregon. If you feel rather ho-hum about the hire, you have plenty of reasons for doing so. Statistically his offense is rather average (not fast, not slow), his defense is about average (or maybe a little above average, but not stellar), his records for a good mid major program are rather average, and his tourney record is pretty average (only two NCAA Tourney wins). What isn't average about him now? His salary. Which leads me to number 3.
3. Why Now? - He's been courted by some really good universities over the years (and I'm sure you'll hear plenty about the Arkansas snafu over the next couple of days) like Arkansas, ASU, Miami, Tennessee and even Illinois. So what made a Nebraska guy, coaching a Nebraska school (most likely for as long as he chooses) leave home for Eugene, Oregon? Was it the money (reportedly $2MM per for 7 years)? Was it the desire to finally prove himself on a larger scale? Or was it the fact that after a couple of down years at Creighton and the schools finally stopped calling he realized that maybe he'd passed up his chance at a bigger pay day? Until Oregon called. I'm sure this question will most likely be responded to with pat answers over the next couple of weeks. For me the answers will come in the next couple of years. If he's serious about building a quality program and making something of this opportunity, he'll hit the recruiting trail hard (and Oregon/NW have some really good recruits coming up in the next couple of years). He'll work his butt off to make sure a bunch of guys who are still here finish their career at Oregon in solid fashion. He'll make hard, tough and fair choices about who to recruit, who to keep and who should leave to break up the classes and put Oregon in a sustainable situation for success. Lastly, and just as important, if not more so, he'll recruit and train good kids that respect the opportunity they are being given (like himself) to play for Oregon and will study and work hard to make the University proud. These are the answers I want to see, not hear, and I am more than willing to give him the opportunity to do so.
In conclusion, I understand why Altman was hired. At first I was very conflicted. I didn't like it, then I liked it, then I didn't and so on and so forth. But now I understand it. Oregon tried to hire a marquee name and get someone to come in here and shoot this program through the roof at a record pace. They failed. So instead they decided to address the area that was most glaring with Kent and that was consistency. If you can't take the elevator to elite program, you might as well take the stairs at a consistent pace. They got a guy who will instill a consistent work ethic, offense, defense, recruiting (more to come on that later) and approach to college basketball. I think why I didn't like it at first was because it didn't fit the Oregon mold (get a progressive, innovative coach who will excel in a couple of areas and use supports around him to create an elite program). This hire was a safe hire. Altman will not embarass the University. He'll put Oregon back on the road to excellence, and away from consistent inconsistency. He may not take Oregon all the way to the top of elite status, but he could end up being an integral step along the way.
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Creighton |
Record |
Efficiency |
Def Efficiency |
Effective FG Pct |
Def Eff FG % |
Turnover % |
Off Reb % |
3-Pt % |
2-Pt % |
Steals % |
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2010 |
18-16 |
106.8 |
100.6 |
50.1 |
47.8 |
18.3 |
30.7 |
33.6 |
49.9 |
8.8 |
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2009 |
27-8 |
110.0 |
98.1 |
51.6 |
48.0 |
17.8 |
29.3 |
38.0 |
48.3 |
8.7 |
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2008 |
22-11 |
108.1 |
95.3 |
51.6 |
48.2 |
20.8 |
32.8 |
36.1 |
49.9 |
9.4 |
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2007 |
22-11 |
113.5 |
91.5 |
50.7 |
48.1 |
19.9 |
33.9 |
33.8 |
50.7 |
9.3 |
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2006 |
20-10 |
105.9 |
92.7 |
48.7 |
46.5 |
20.5 |
32.9 |
35.7 |
45.7 |
9.5 |
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2005 |
23-11 |
114.8 |
96.7 |
53.3 |
49.6 |
18.4 |
31.0 |
41.4 |
47.6 |
9.4 |
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2004 |
20-9 |
106.8 |
94.7 |
51.0 |
47.6 |
20.3 |
32.7 |
38.5 |
48.2 |
10.6 |
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2003 |
29-5 |
113.8 |
93.2 |
56.6 |
47.8 |
19.5 |
33.9 |
39.0 |
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Oregon |
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2010 |
16-16 |
104.0 |
99.1 |
47.9 |
51.5 |
18.8 |
35.4 |
33.9 |
46.7 |
8.6 |
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2009 |
8-23 |
102.7 |
101.9 |
46.9 |
54.9 |
21.2 |
32.0 |
35.8 |
42.7 |
9.8 |
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2008 |
18-14 |
120.2 |
99.6 |
55.8 |
50.3 |
18.3 |
31.4 |
39.2 |
53.8 |
8.5 |
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2007 |
29-8 |
120.3 |
93.4 |
53.4 |
49.2 |
18.5 |
35.4 |
39.0 |
49.7 |
8.5 |
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2006 |
15-18 |
113.7 |
96.8 |
51.9 |
49.5 |
19.2 |
34.8 |
33.5 |
52.9 |
9.0 |
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2005 |
14-13 |
106.1 |
97.5 |
52.2 |
49.1 |
22.1 |
34.2 |
33.8 |
53.0 |
9.5 |
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2004 |
18-13 |
110.4 |
98.3 |
54.1 |
49.6 |
21.4 |
32.3 |
40.0 |
50.0 |
9.1 |
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Nice work
The recruiting part should also paint a clearer picture about why he was hired, too.
by Brian Floyd on Apr 26, 2010 12:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
"intents and purposes"
best part about this post. Not that you likely care, but you have secured a position in my mind as a good writer by not writing “intensive purposes.”
As far as Altman goes, he is not as exciting as an Izzo, or even a Stevens (who I am guessing will not be as exciting 24 months from now), but he is clearly going to bring some consistency, and some fundamentals back to the program.
I heart taxes.
Stevens will be an excellent coach no matter where he's at
I think this was the hire we needed to make 3.5 weeks ago. Would have saved us a fair amount of grief+3 players.
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Wow
I hadn’t realized it was quite so bad until you put it in graph form. Ernie’s record over the last seven years is worse than mediocre.
--Dave
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what is staggering is the Defensive Eff FG %. Either we played a lot of teams that were really hot, game after game season after season or we weren’t really good at playing defense.
I’ll let you decide
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Oo oo oo, I know, I know the answer! Pick me! Pick me!
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by Bill Musgrave on Apr 26, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN Insider has a rumor up that Jamil Wison may be the next to leave the UO
isn’t really surprising, considering he came largely because of Ernie.
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That would be too bad, I think he’ll be one of the players that fits Altman’s system best.
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This rumor is based entirely on what Wilson told Bob Clark a couple days ago. It’s nothing new, and really not much of a rumor at this point.
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Good writeup
I’m definitely not blown away by this hire, but it seems like a step in the right direction.
The one thing I am concerned about: that picture. It’s haunting me for some reason. If his hands were next to his face, he’d look like this:

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its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"
Press conference rolling
Live on Goducks.com
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Our interim AD
Is not a great public speaker.
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better link
http://www.goducks.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?&id=389316&catid=0&KEY=&DB_OEM_ID=500
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I like how they're signing a contract in front of everybody
--Dave
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About as good at PR
As this entire situation has been handled.
Oh well, we got it done.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Actually, now that I thought about it
It makes sense given the whole MB thing.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
She was my Advanced Statistics and Research Methods prof
when I was getting my Masters. She is an AWESOME instructor! I don’t think I’ve ever been at a game or away game where I haven’t seen her. She is a huge supporter of Duck Athletics.
I'm sure she is
I didn’t mean she’s horrible personally. Just not the most gifted public speaker.
--Dave
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What's funny is that it depends on the venue
I had no trouble talking in front of my high school students, but couldn’t speak in front of their parents at back-to-school night.
Davis was smooth in class.
Altman on the other hand
Is a great speaker.
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Altman’s getting started today with the players in the weight room. Get to work guys!
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Handled the question nicely
Good job coach
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Arkansas answer: It wasn’t what I had envisioned. He credits PK for helping sell him on the position here.
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hahahaha
“I wish to battle all the players in the Big 10…whoops I mean Pac 10…”
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I think he sounds like he’s gonna keep payne.
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Yeah, though he needs to make it clear he’s in charge, and doesn’t need Payne, even though in fact he needs Payne.
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“We want players that want to be here”
translation:
“Bye, Crittle, Wiley and Humphrey”
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and it also sounds like he plans to try and sign a player or two,
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Either there are totally different media members here or they’ve all gotten brain transplants, but they’re asking some really good questions.
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the last one was a great one
froze him for a second.
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The last one actually came from PK2 if you mean the one
about being in his wife’s top three. I thought that was pretty funny.
Reccomended the Creighton AD
To replace our AD.
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Nice crack on not being his first choice
Good sense of humor.
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good deflection, and I think he knows more than the media
“the things that have been written have not all been accurate” – first duh comment from coach
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Using football to sell basketball
Gee, you think that might be a good idea?
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Well, congratulations on getting a new coach
I think the two words that most define this hire, at least from the fan post, are “average” and “consistency.” I’m not sure if a coach that wasn’t killing it at the mid-major level can take a Pac 10 team all the way, but with the recruiting advantages at Oregon I suppose it’s possible. Maybe it wasn’t what the program wanted initially, but it seems like it’s what Oregon needed. Peaking at 20 win seasons, even consistently, won’t be enough though I’m guessing.
Well, I will take "average" and "consistency"
when it is better then what was here. What’s worse is below average and inconsistent was 3-0 vs. washington state last year.
But besides all that thanks for the back handed compliment
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by pipgras on Apr 26, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought he did a great job at his first press conference
He was funny, smart, humble and made me glad he’s our new coach.
I'm more than willing to hold out on judgments of Altman until about two years from today.
Hopefully he can get some sort of surprise success in the new arena’s inaugural year, but if not, he has another six to prove himself. Here’s to Altman.
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Go ahead and raise your hand if you even thought of this guy...
No one? That’s what I thought.
The sad thing is that some people will misconstrue that as it being “not a splash hire” (code for a bad hire).
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 26, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions
The guy who wrote this post
That’s who I was thinking of, Dayton. Also I think St Louis and LaSalle and creighton fit the bill too.
I also found a gem from Dave
I can’t watch during these long cut aways becuase of “blackout restrictions” online. How can you have blackout restrictions if you aren’t actually showing much of the game? DAMN IT. F*ck Nevada/Creighton.
Has there been any mention of what happened with Altman @ Kansas State?
Team dissension? Clashes with the AD? Just too young to be a major college head coach 20 years ago?
He had four years, and exhibited gradual unimprovement, and was gone. Has to be a story there somewhere.
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Why the hell not?
I see nothing bad
He went back home to Nebraska to coach at Creighton. It seemed like everything was fine and he had KSU playing at a high level.
I’m not sure if this is a typo or I am not understanding what you are saying:
and exhibited gradual unimprovement,
But his win total at KSU went 13, 16, 19, and 20 respectively. To mean that looks like improvement. I think he saw an opportunity to coach near home and not deal with a lot of the pressures of a Big 8 (12) school. I not so sure that it was anything driving him away from KSU but instead what was calling him to Creighton (if that makes sense).
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Look at his wins in conference.
3-11
5-9
7-7
4-10
The “gradual unimprovement” refers to that last season. Now, I have no idea what happened that year, which is why I was bringing it up.
If you’ve been reading my random scrawls during hoops season you know that I’m keen on performing well in conference. I don’t give a hoot’n holla if someone wins 20 games if they only go 4-10 in the games that really count.
Which is why I was askin’.
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Why the hell not?
I’ll try not to get into a semantics argument with you regarding “games that really count” by bringing up the fact that he is 2-8 in the NCAA Tourney. Or why “gradual” pertains to one season out of 4.
I think my point was more about the fact that decent success (while overall wins improved every year and conference wins improved 3 out of 4 years) was a factor that made it an attractive hire for him at Creighton which was more a home to him than KSU. Plus, I believe he said a friend of his was AD there, which would make the move all the more reasonable (I could easily be mistaken on this, so don’t hold me to it).
I don’t know, for me the move from a fledgling KSU team to a private, close to home mid major isn’t that alarming a move back in 1994, considering he spent the next 16 years there.
What is more surprising is that while there he turned down opportunity after opportunity at bigger pay days and larger scale schools, and he finally decided that Oregon was the school to make his mark. That I don’t get.
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HURRAY BEER!
I just drank a Land Shark in celebration!
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It's Jimmy Buffett's beer.
Fuck Jimmy Buffett.
Welcome to Nashville, LeGarrette. Also, I love the Jay-Hey Kid.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 26, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
It is the only beer I had in my fridge
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Tennessee Titans fan’s comment about signing Blount from their SB nation blog. Someone should post the falcon punch gif.

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