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Quack Fix: Eaton and Theisen win Pac-10 championship events, Baseball ends worst week of the season

Not a great weekend for Oregon baseball, but Oregon track is doing it's best to make us forget. Let's get to the quack:

  • Ashton Eaton and Brianne Theisen started the Pac-10 championships off on the right foot, winning the decathalon and heptathalon, respectively. Eaton won his third straight Pac-10 title in the decathalon yesterday, and immediately called his mom afterwards. And not just because it was Mother's Day. He calls his mom, who he is very close with, after every meet. Eaton accomplished his goals for the competition, as he won the decathlon, while conserving enough energy to compete in other events as the Pac-10 championships continue next weekend. Most impressive of all this? Eaton put up the second best score in the world this year, while not going all out. 
  • Meanwhile, Theisen became the second Duck to win back-to-back Pac-10 heptathalons, in her impressive performance. She scored 5,917 points and beat the nearest competitor by almost 500 points. The Ducks also got some help from Marshall Ackley, who took third in the decathalon, and Erin Funkhouser, who PR'd in the heptathalon and took fifth, helping give the Ducks a strong head start into the rest of the championships next weekend.
  • Unfortunately, Oregon baseball didn't fare so well as they finished their worst week of the season. Oregon was swept by the Beavers, as they lost three games in walk-off fashion to the Beavs, two of them in extra innings. To his credit, Horton is taking the full blame of the losses, as he "let some things slide." Errors killed Oregon during the series (they had 5), and Ducks didn't take advantage of multiple opportunities throughout the series, including a terrible base-running blunder that killed a 9th inning rally in yesterday's game. But for all the bad, the Ducks have a lot they can take from the series. For all the struggles, the Ducks never gave up, coming back in the 9th during the Saturday and Sunday games, even though it wasn't enough. And despite the frustration, the Ducks were in every game, something we couldn't say last season. Oregon has four non-conference home games this week, one on Tuesday against San Diego and a weekend series against East Tennessee State, so they'll have a chance to get back on track very soon.
  • Bob Rickert is on the warpath regarding OSU's recent legal troubles, and has had multiple blog posts on the topic over the weekend. To add insult for the Beavs, on Friday evening, OSU QB Peter Lalich received a DUI near Shasta, CA. And while on some level it's fun to point and laugh, the only benefit of this is that now their fans will shut up. Complaining about media coverage of the two universities, or some perceived double-standard, is not beneficial to either side. You know why OSU isn't receiving media coverage? Because they aren't Pac-10 champions, and haven't shown an ability to compete on a national level in the last decade. Oregon will receive more media scrutiny, that's just the way it goes. But remember, media coverage goes both ways. When you screw up it's amplified, and when you do well, it's amplified, and Oregon has benefited to great degree from that amplification over the past decade.
  • In a bit of Pac-10 stadium house-keeping, Oregon is replacing it's field turf this week, and Cal will be playing in AT&T Park during 2011 (Cal plays at Oregon that year) as work takes place to improve the dump that is Memorial Stadium.

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I wonder if the Memorial Stadium improvements will involve picking the entire stadium up and moving it off of the fault line.

Half the wheels, twice the alibi.

by axemen23 on May 10, 2010 7:31 AM PDT reply actions  

3 losses by 3 runs (and 4 losses by 5 runs including Portland) is incredibly frustrating.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on May 10, 2010 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention the fact that they were all walk-off wins, and all 3 games could have easily gone either way.

Welcome to Nashville, LeGarrette. Also, I love the Jay-Hey Kid.

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 10, 2010 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well hopefully these losses taught them how to play in close games and they can take that experience with them to the ncaas

by westspec on May 10, 2010 8:13 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I am bummed that Horton said he didn't get the team ready for the OS games

With all the positive attention, national ranking, and talk of postseason, why would he NOT get them ready. I love that they never gave up, but at times, they made little league mistakes.

The USD game will NOT be an easy game . . . they just swept UP in Portland (the same team who beat us before the weekend debacle). I never thought OS would sweep us. They had won only 1 of their previous 12 games and we just handed them a new lease on life.

by Ducks73 on May 10, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’ve outscored the Beavers in baseball 18-16 so far this season. That goes down as 3 conference wins for them and 3 conference losses for us.

STILL stopping every few minutes to realize "Whoa. The Saints won the Super Bowl."

by AllSaintsDay on May 10, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

no reason to panic about baseball

we were in all those games. But what you learned is that in the Pac-10, every team is good, and if you stop doing the little things right, you are going to get beat.

In Pac-10 football, you are going to go on the road and lose a game you shouldn’t. You are going to have a lost weekend in basketball. And the same holds true for baseball. In the grand scheme, that series will mean very little. It ends our slim chances of hosting a regional, but we’re still in great shape to be in one. What will ultimately decide that is how we respond to this weekend. San Diego is a very good team. Going back home and beating the Torreros on Tuesday would be a great way to rebuild confidence. If we can do that then win the ETSU series this weekend, we’re in great shape.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on May 10, 2010 8:18 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m gonna hitch a ride on the plane that ETSU takes up there so I can see a game.

Welcome to Nashville, LeGarrette. Also, I love the Jay-Hey Kid.

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 10, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t you have finals.

Half the wheels, twice the alibi.

by axemen23 on May 10, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

...Not on the weekend.

Welcome to Nashville, LeGarrette. Also, I love the Jay-Hey Kid.

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 10, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not when they're for 20 percent of your final grade...

Welcome to Nashville, LeGarrette. Also, I love the Jay-Hey Kid.

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 10, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

By my logic

Anybody other than those already mentioned would have 100% and would settle for a B…

by Andomania on May 10, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

An 80 is a C...

Welcome to Nashville, LeGarrette. Also, I love the Jay-Hey Kid.

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 10, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Suddenly, I have realized the source of our country's educational woes!

Most places associate “degrees” with the letter “C.”
But we associate “degrees” with the letter “F.”

STILL stopping every few minutes to realize "Whoa. The Saints won the Super Bowl."

by AllSaintsDay on May 10, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d to hell and back. That was clever.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"

by JShufelt on May 10, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Took me a couple minutes to figure it out, but yes, very well done.

Welcome to Nashville, LeGarrette. Also, I love the Jay-Hey Kid.

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 10, 2010 2:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Reminds me of the old joke…

What do you call the guy that finished last in his class at medical school?

Doctor.

Putting produce in your beer is just plain porn.
Addicted to Quack

by Matt Daddy on May 10, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Come on, that's gold!

Rough crowd. I’ll be here every Monday folks, don’t forget to tip your bartender.

I also have a raft of lawyer jokes that I’ve been dying to try out, also.

by HoodRiverDuck on May 10, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

What do you throw to a drowning guitarist?

His Amplifier.

by JonathanPDX on May 10, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clever indeed.

Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on May 10, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

In Pac-10 football, you are going to go on the road and lose a game you shouldn’t.

Thank god Toby Gearhart was a senior.

Half the wheels, twice the alibi.

by axemen23 on May 10, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

He actually had another year of eligibility left.

Scary huh

Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on May 10, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was a fun series.

Sloppy at times, but fun. Sunday’s game made me very nervous—the ducks really battled back when Casey decided to push Gaviglio for a full game performance. Pretty obvious there that the kid didn’t have that ninth inning in the tank.

The only thing sweeter would’ve been sweeping ASU and having better announcers on TV. Giansante and Wilson are a horrible team.

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd rather just have TV period

I’m gonna go ahead and keep banging this drum until our awesome baseball league gets a TV deal.

by Brian Floyd on May 10, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would be nice, wouldn't it?

With all of the NCAA champs we have in the past two decades you’d think they’d make it happen…

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

With the 7, and maybe 8, legit tournament teams

Every weekend it seems like something cool happens. The parity would make it fun to watch this year, but I don’t see the league slowing down anytime soon.

I guess NCAA baseball isn’t a revenue generator, but if they ever do get a Pac-10 network, they should be showing a good majority of baseball games in the fall. There’s no other NCAA sports to compete with right now.

by Brian Floyd on May 10, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, I'mma have to risk the hellstorm that will probably ensue, but...

What NCAA champs? Two Pac-10 teams have won three College World Series in the past two decades.

STILL stopping every few minutes to realize "Whoa. The Saints won the Super Bowl."

by AllSaintsDay on May 10, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was spitballing with my time frame there, sorry. You’re right, you’d need to look a little beyond that to see the SC, Arizona, ASU, Stanford run. The PAC 10 has a rich baseball tradition. You’d think that could get us some TV time.

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

The past two decades isn’t up to par with SEC, but overall history:

Total Pac-10 CWS appearances in NCAA: 123
Total Pac-10 CWS wins: 25

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"

by JShufelt on May 10, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

It’s an off year when someone from the PAC 10 doesn’t make it to Omaha, that’s for sure.

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah. I won't argue that.

I was just saying that “with all the NCAA champs we have in the past two decades” is overstating it.

STILL stopping every few minutes to realize "Whoa. The Saints won the Super Bowl."

by AllSaintsDay on May 10, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m running on fumes today. Apologies for lack of clarity.

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

No biggie. Bringing hyperbolic arguments down to earth is what I do.

In other words, I’m a stick in the mud.

Spent an hour at my family Christmas party explaining that no, the SEC is not so much tougher than every other league that they should get a free pass to play non-con patsies.

STILL stopping every few minutes to realize "Whoa. The Saints won the Super Bowl."

by AllSaintsDay on May 10, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool.

My intended point was that we send a lot of teams to Omaha, have won a few championships and have put a lot of teams in the title game, so THAT is why we’re awesome…

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the same holds true for baseball.


This pretty much sums up this season for beaver baseball.

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

What's their deal this year?

I went and watched them play in Pullman and that’s not the OSU team I remember from last year.

by Brian Floyd on May 10, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea.

Casey never found a good, consistent starting line up, pitching has taken a step back, not enough people hitting the ball well and an overall lack of leadership. They’re young, sure, but still not performing like they should.

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

In Pac-10 football, you are going to go on the road and lose a game you shouldn’t.

2007 Southern Cal asks what you mean by “road.”

Pretty sure that upset is never going to get old to me.

STILL stopping every few minutes to realize "Whoa. The Saints won the Super Bowl."

by AllSaintsDay on May 10, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The spread was only 41,

I mean I’d hardly call that an upset.

by HoodRiverDuck on May 10, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and in case anyone missed it, Cal will play their home football games at AT&T Park in 2011.

Welcome to Nashville, LeGarrette. Also, I love the Jay-Hey Kid.

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 10, 2010 9:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow, that was already posted up in the fix. My mistake.

Welcome to Nashville, LeGarrette. Also, I love the Jay-Hey Kid.

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 10, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eaton making a strong bid

For greatest Oregon athlete ever. At the very least one of the greatest.

by omb on May 10, 2010 9:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Something to note about the replacement turf at Autzen. As a part of the work, they will be removing the famous crown on the field. I don’t know about you guys but I’m going to miss it

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on May 10, 2010 9:19 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't think we'll notice

nor think it will make any difference

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on May 10, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully they do some “torrential rain” testing before deciding to completely dump it. I know it never rains in Autzen, but if any stadium has to worry about drainage, it’s ours.

by omb on May 10, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

same here.

I feel like it was some super secret home field advantage.

Half the wheels, twice the alibi.

by axemen23 on May 10, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know why OSU isn’t receiving media coverage? Because they aren’t Pac-10 champions, and haven’t shown an ability to compete on a national level in the last decade.

I apologize for forgetting that unmentionable columnist’s derisive acronym, but having him and the Oregonian on the war path against UO for a while hasn’t mattered much a in a lot of ways compared to Oregon State. Despite the negativity they send out to potential fans and donors, Oregon’s hardly in bad a financial state and we’re going on, what, 63 sellouts?

I do see a potential issue with recruiting. While any reasonable kid should be able to look beyond this, we did hear about a top-shelf D-tackle from Washington for 2011 who had the Ducks on top but reevaluated after this rash of incidents. For kids, it does create another obstacle Chip and the gang have to overcome.

Also, and this is the big issue I have, there’s the double standard that this enables for punishment – and its effect on the field. On the field is the place where it actually matters, and OSU flying under the radar allows it to give way more slack to star players who might otherwise have to sit. The Olander situation is really troubling. He apparently had a theft “incident” last off-season, but it was never mentioned to the media and he started the whole season. With everyone laughing off this latest incident, there’s zero pressure on Riley to do anything but slap him on the wrist – just like Afalava, Seigert, or any number of starters he’s treated with kid gloves in the past. So Masoli’s out for the year, blowing a hole in a team that was absolutely set to challenge for a BCS championship next year, while Riley gets to keep his starting tackle who didn’t just steal and play a season anyway – he blew a diversion. I’m not saying Masoli didn’t deserve his suspension, but at times like these it seems like UO is the only team in the country (see USC, Penn State, Florida) who is expected to dump starters who get in trouble, and then is held to that standard by an incessant media uproar.

by omb on May 10, 2010 9:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I honestly don’t believe it will affect recruiting in any significant way. In fact, you could argue it will help recruiting in the long run. Look at what happened with the Blount situation. People said the same thing, but it’s not what happens immediately. It’s what happens over time, and Oregon rebounded from adversity, and that story is much more powerful than the initial screw-up.

As far as a perceived double-standard, I just don’t see it. No other teams have had their two Heisman contenders arrested. And have any other star QBs plead guilty to burglary? I’m personally glad that I don’t live in Oregon, and thus have a much better ability to screen what news I consume. I don’t listen to crappy talk radio or Canzano (who is mostly just trying to drive ratings and page views).

But I didn’t want people judging Kelly for his punishment choices, and I’m not gonna judge Riley. He knows his players, and he’s done a good job overall, and I’m not going to project onto him that he’s making the choices simply for the betterment of his football team.

Lastly, you seem to be under the assumption that this “media pressure” matters. I don’t think it does in a significant way. Urban Meyer could give two shits about the media. Chip Kelly could also. They’re gonna do what’s best for their players and the University. John Canzano could yell to high heaven about Oregon Football, and it’s not gonna matter. If the Oregon media covers Oregon and Oregon State, it doesn’t matter. Oregon’s gonna do what it does, and OSU is gonna do what it does.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on May 10, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can see how in some ways, for recruiting, it might even be a no-publicity-is-bad-publicity situation, since it gets the team out in people’s heads, and any interaction with our very decent coaching staff should show them that they aren’t the monsters the media makes them out to be.

For the media pressure, you have a good point but I do think it has an impact on decision making. Look at the Alonso situation. Does Chip sit down and lay out the law to a bunch of reporters if their opinions don’t matter, and does Alonso get punished the way he did if the timing didn’t create such an ugly news story? Perhaps. But when a coach is having to go on OTL to defend his and his program’s honor, it plays into his decision making. PR considerations are a part of a decision on what, overall, is best for the program, and media firestorms change that equation a bit. At least, as far as I see it.

by omb on May 10, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I truly believe that media pressure had absolutely no impact on Alonso’s suspension. Alonso got punished because he made a terrible decision mere hours after Kelly held a team meeting on that very subject.

As far as going on OTL and all that, Kelly was defiant during that time, and said that they should have him back later after the processes were complete. In this case, I just don’t think media pressure had a significant impact.

I can envision times when media pressure may play a role. But this wasn’t the U in the late 80s. This was a couple incidents that were blown out of proportion. They did not immediately impact recruiting or season ticket sales. Sure, there were the sound bytes used after the LMJ arrest, but the truth came out, and it essentially blew over.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on May 10, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kelly was defiant during that time

Pacman Jones and I both think you meant to say that he was “just being rebellion”… am I right?

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

This was a couple incidents that were blown out of proportion.

At least for me, this is the deal. If Canzano’s opinion on Oregon’s multiple arrests had been “Oregon is getting into a lot of offseason trouble,” I would have no problem, and be saying “Yeah, Oregon’s in the national spotlight more so they get more coverage.”

He didn’t. He kept saying that Kelly had lost control of the program, and other roughly synonymous things. And while “a lot of offseason trouble” makes sense as something to note for the Ducks but not the Beavers, based on national profile, “lost control of the program” is something that he should be taking note of, even for the Beavers.

STILL stopping every few minutes to realize "Whoa. The Saints won the Super Bowl."

by AllSaintsDay on May 10, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus he and others continually called for Chip to mete out discipline

immediately after an arrest and for a zero tolerance policy (unlike Riley who only has to impose a “near zero tolerance policy”). They also called into question why backups received more serious punishments than starters. Seven current and former beavs have been arrested or cited along with the two sent home from Las Vegas. But we get the negative attention because we have marketed ourselves.

http://www.gazettetimes.com/sports/beavers-sports/article_21b3d3c2-fbbd-11de-afc7-001cc4c002e0.html

by Ducks73 on May 10, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

But we get the negative attention because we have marketed ourselves.

You know why they called for Chip to give out punishment? Because it drove ratings and page views. We are going to get more coverage, both good and bad.

Canzano and others that have not looked at this in an evenhanded way have simply exposed themselves as hacks. If you want fairness here, don’t look to the media.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on May 10, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I don't, but I get tired of the impact it has on people

We were at the beach and a man with his toddler looked at my dog with his Duck tag and said, “Look at the bad dog; he’s a Duck”. Later that day we were on the beach and a man came up to me (I had my Duck cap on) and said, “Oh I thought all the Ducks were in jail”. Two completely random, but annoying encounters with beav jerks.

by Ducks73 on May 10, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Olander’s theft was in January of this year, he has not technically played any games since then.

by echo31 on May 10, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

All the articles say the incident was May 2009, January was his plea and sentencing.

by omb on May 10, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

i stand corrected then

by echo31 on May 10, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Something this Beaver believes Peter Lalich will join Masoli in saying this fall.

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I think they’re both locks to start in the Oregon Penal League next year.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on May 10, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

hehe, you said “Penal”

Putting produce in your beer is just plain porn.
Addicted to Quack

by Matt Daddy on May 10, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Call me Axemen again!

Putting produce in your beer is just plain porn.
Addicted to Quack

by Matt Daddy on May 10, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Axemen ain’t no country I ever heard of!! They speak English in Axemen?!?!

They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays

by Takimoto on May 10, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you related to Axemen?

I am not a Communist, a Communist's lawn would never look this good.

by Bill Musgrave on May 10, 2010 12:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

A guards vs. prisoners game?! That'd be sweet.

The inmates two-deep at QB would be looking good.

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, when you add Moevao

that’s quite a trifecta

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on May 10, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

God, I almost forgot.

Sigh… Moevao’s the guy who always talked about going into law enforcement too. Maybe he’s a big fan of irony?

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who does Irony play for? He sounds upside-y.

They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays

by Takimoto on May 10, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing really compares to College football, but wasn’t there going to be a new spring/summer football league? There should really be football on tv 365 days of the year. I’d even watch the xfl or arena football again or if someone came up with a football version of slam ball for just entertainment value

by runfast on May 10, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never watch the NFL

And wouldn’t really watch football right now. I LOVE college football, and like HS football a great deal. But just couldn’t care about most other leagues.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on May 10, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

you don’t think football with trampoline mats would be fun to watch? Mid air collisions, long touchdown dives, super jump passes, increase field goal difficulty, 300lbs lineman shaking the whole playing field, intercepting balls 25 ft in the air, etc?

by runfast on May 10, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

slamball was an abomination

this would be worse.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on May 10, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah you’re probably right. I’m not suggesting that the game itself would actually be good, but that there would be some sweet moments — to me, it would just be entertaining. Entertaining because it’s so ridiculous and stupid. College football would always be 1million times better.

by runfast on May 10, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

The fact that there are only 11 or so games and that you need to wait for the season is kind of what makes it a good thing.

You know what they say about too much of a good thing. It’s the same reason you can’t drink Dr. Delight EVERY SINGLE DAY, you know?

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Off subject but...

If Brian Cushing gets his defensive ROY stripped due to doping, does the award fall to Jairus Byrd since he placed second in the voting?

Strength Of Schedule = Swear Words In Boise, Idaho.

by spaceman21 on May 10, 2010 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I would think so

Since if Bush is stripped of his Heisman due to the USC turmoil, it goes to the 2nd place finisher (Vince Young I believe).

Half the wheels, twice the alibi.

by axemen23 on May 10, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not usually correct.

Vacating wins/victories/awards does not reward others by default nor retroactively.

Example: ‘05 Oklahoma. NCAA took away their wins from that season, that doesn’t mean we won the Holiday bowl. We still lost. It just means Oklahoma didn’t win it. (Though that decision was later reversed and their wins were reinstated)

I would expect the same thing to happen to the Heisman – if anything comes down on them/Bush at all (It wont).

Now, maybe the NFL deals with it differently, but I wouldn’t expect it.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"

by JShufelt on May 10, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess we'll find out
Duckfootball RT @BobGlauber: Just got off the phone with AP Sports Editor Terry Taylor. There will be a re-vote of NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year. 14 minutes ago via web

I expect him to win it in a close vote.

Half the wheels, twice the alibi.

by axemen23 on May 10, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

If thiat "source" is actually correct,

Winning DROY in this manner does not seem all that genuine.

Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on May 10, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice.

Byrd deserved it anyways.

Screw that meat-head Cushing too(don’t tell him I said that).

Can I get a Darron Thomas jersey in a mens size or is he becoming the Rudy Fernandez of Oregon football?

by spaceman21 on May 10, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

The Big 10 invites Nebraska, Missouri, Notre Dame, and Rutgers

Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin

by QuackinAK on May 10, 2010 2:47 PM PDT reply actions  

i can solve this puzzle

No, Yes, fuck no, yes.

Half the wheels, twice the alibi.

by axemen23 on May 10, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would gain a ton more respect for Notre Dame if they joined a conference.

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by JShufelt on May 10, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would this get them off NBC? Or would they just tack their Big10 national coverage games onto the full NBC schedule? Did I just answer my own question with a question?

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by benzduck on May 11, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know.

Their deal with NBC isn’t what pisses me off about Notre Dame. I can not watch NBC just fine.

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by JShufelt on May 11, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

My solution is

Hey, look it’s a conference expansion rumor! We haven’t seen one of those before!

Sadly, I think that it’ll be a while before we find out for certain who’s got the correct logic.

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by AllSaintsDay on May 10, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just heard that the Sun Belt is expanding to keep up with the Big 10 (or 11, or 12, or 16). They’ve invited the New Jersey Nets, the Detroit Lions, any American Soccer team, and the Appalachian Ultimate Frisbee Squad.

by JonathanPDX on May 10, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt the Lions can keep up in that conference.

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by Gorbachav5 on May 10, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why Mizzou and not Nebraska?

And are you aware that if ND joined your conference they’d be required to share loot with you? Love ‘em or hate ’em that’s a lot of money.

by ArbyOSU on May 10, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just see Nebraska as more of a traditionalist school

with a lot of history in the Big 12. And Mizzou, not so much.

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by axemen23 on May 10, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?

Isn’t the point to make money? You’re doing it wrong.

by Brian Floyd on May 10, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can

That TV well is going to dry up. Maybe not now, but it will. Perhaps as soon as this contract is up.

by Brian Floyd on May 10, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even if the NBC deals dries up, there will be another waiting in the wings. If the TV networks have proven anything it’s that they are really really dumb. Plus, Notre Dame AD sits on the BCS board.

The same rights that an entire conference gets to share, Notre Dame has all to themselves; a vote for what they want to happen with the biggest money maker in college football, the Bowls.

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by Matt Daddy on May 10, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

TV networks also aren't drowning in money to throw at ND either, though

Which is part of the reason why I think they won’t be pulling a big TV deal. It’s not feasible for networks to throw a bunch of money at one team when the market isn’t great and whole conferences are providing better products.

by Brian Floyd on May 10, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that Notre Dame will be able to sign another absurd TV deal.

They still maintain a very large fanbase, and they are a program on the rise (slowly).

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by CaDuck on May 10, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the rise? I'd respectfully disagree with that..

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 10, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would say that under Brian Kelly,

They are definitely on the rise from the dark depths of the Charlie Weiss era.

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by CaDuck on May 10, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kelly’s going to have to prove to me that he will be able to resurrect the program before I’m sold on Notre Dame being “on the rise”, because personally, I don’t see him being up to the task.

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 10, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chip Kelly has lost control of Brian Kelly!

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by Gorbachav5 on May 10, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as they have that lucrative TV deal and special privileges for bowls, why would they? What could possibly drive ND to join a conference?

Hey Notre Dame, would you like to join the Big 10?
You want us to make less money, share our revenue and give up special rights to play in higher paying bowls?!?!? Oh, ok. Where do we sign?

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by Matt Daddy on May 10, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

they would actually make more money in the Big Ten

Indiana and Minnesota bring in more TV revenue than Notre Dame.

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by David Piper on May 10, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget picking 12 OOC teams each year, with only needing to play “rivals” which you can back out of anytime…

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by JShufelt on May 10, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm,

This just seems like a rumor.

I just cannot see Nebraska or Notre Dame moving to the Big-10. Notre Dame surely wants to keep Notre Dames absurdly lucrative TV deal to Nore Dame’s self. Not to mention Notre Dame would love not having to split Notre Dames earnings from bowl games with schools not named Notre Dame.

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by CaDuck on May 10, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Notre Dame is just a bonus tacked on

Notice how it’s four, which would put the conference at 15 teams. If the other 3 come on and ND doesn’t, they stay at 14. If ND does, they pick off one more and go to 16.

by Brian Floyd on May 10, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the entire thing is a smoke screen. Rutgers will probably go, just because of money. Mizzou and Neb have the same issue that Colorado has in joining the Pac 10, and that is the cost of leaving the Big 12. ND is a pipe dream and will never join (especially not this year).

I think the Big Ten is hell bent on just going to 12 right now with Rutgers and the rest is just window dressing.

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by Matt Daddy on May 10, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

It may be smoke screen

But I do think they are heading to 16, even if not right now. Rutgers was always the easy one for them to pick off and I think it’s been known for some time that the Big Ten would swoop them. The Mizzou and Nebraska fit with the dismantling of the Big 12, which is also expected. I don’t know if it will happen right now, but if the Big Ten picks off two and the Pac-10 picks off at least one, all hell could break loose.

by Brian Floyd on May 10, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally I hope that Neb and Mizzou do jump at the money. It makes going after Colorado and a new TV deal that much easier. Hell, even the Texas 4 come into play if that happens. Losing two members of the original Big 8 would be a kill shot at the Big 12. I’d be interested in seeing what happens if Neb and Mizzou go.

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by Matt Daddy on May 10, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually I think the Big 12 should 2 two to the Big Ten, 5 to the Pac 10, and 4 to the SEC to give us 3 super conferences. Let the Big East join the ranks of the WAC and MVC.

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by Matt Daddy on May 10, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

This all seems like a board game I would enjoy.

Build A Conference!

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by Gorbachav5 on May 10, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could buy it for Wolf and let him “win” every time, despite him choosing schools such as Cornell and Strayer University to be new members of the Pac-10.

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 10, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somehow, he would get NBC to give him a $100 million TV deal with a 2-team conference that consists of Wofford and McNeese St.

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by Gorbachav5 on May 10, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

What shall we call that conference?

The LCSPSA. Louisiana-Carolina Sub-Par Sporting Association.

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 10, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Missouri Valley Conference?

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by AllSaintsDay on May 10, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think they expect ND to come. But they can’t send out invitations without including them. It would be disrespectful to the team that controls college football (wait did i say that? forget I said anything. I don’t want the Notre Dame henchmen to hunt me down).

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by Matt Daddy on May 10, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

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