You don't care about my Spring Game observations, but I'll give them to you anyway.
Great time yesterday with all the guys. Real cool meeting Matt Daddy, JonathanPDX, DuckFanAndy, dannyoneill, hazmat, and anyone else I shook hands with. I had a great time watching the game, tailgating, and meeting players and coaches afterwards as they left.
But, as far as the Spring Game itself was concerned (and, let's be honest, that's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one), there are some notes on our team that I took.
- Quarterbacks: Nate Costa and Darron Thomas both ran the ball surprisingly well. Their reads were most often great. Passing wise, Darron Thomas was one botched flea flicker away from having a mediocre looking game statistically. And while that throw was on the money, I'd rather his throws on those drag routes over the middle and those bubble screens were on the money. He evidently has very good arm strength, but he sure didn't seem to be showing it yesterday. Many of his passes were very, very limp and hardly had a spiral to them. His quick screens were often very slow developing because of the ball being in the air for so long. Costa, however, came out gangbusters and put the ball in front of his receivers to give them a chance to make the play. He was checking down a lot, but his checkdowns were going for very good yardage. So I have no problem with it.
- Runningbacks: To be honest, this position was pretty anonymous during the game. LaMichael had a few less than significant carries behind a pretty unimpressive O-line before calling it a day. Kenjon Barner ran pretty well and especially was a threat receiving it and making the play on his own. For the first time yesterday, I really saw Barner as a Jeremiah Johnson type back. He really better get as much or more playing time this coming year, because he is one of the most exciting players we have.
- Fullbacks: Wait, what is this doing here?
- Receivers: The first-string receiving corps was actually alarmingly unimpressive. Too many drops on easy screens. Their blocking often wasn't that great either on the zone reads. Jeff Maehl had a crazy stiff arm on one play, and D.J. Davis showed surprisingly good wheels to outran the coverage on the flea flicker play, but other than that the expected starters receiving unit looked like they weren't very dialed in for the game. Some of the walk-ons looked good, especially in the second half. Justin Hoffman was a receiver that we've heard about recently that looked like he really, really wants into the game. And I like that.
- Tight Ends: From the eyeball test, Brandon Williams looks a lot like a barely skinnier Ed Dickson. David Paulson had some really good receptions and runs after the catch that I liked to see a lot. We all know what David Paulson does when given playing time. I think we will be fine at TE this year, and may see some step-uppage from Paulson or even Williams.
- O-line: This one is hard to gauge because of the draft into the game. The O-lines for both teams were consequently very fragmented and neither were complete first-string lines. The White Team line looked better to me as Costa was almost always getting more time than Thomas was. By the second half, with all the walk-on linemen in, Hawkins was on the run a lot of the time. So, there's really no point in grading the O-line in this game.
- D-line: While I didn't see him play much except for the play where he swatted that Costa ball near the goal line, from the sideline Kenny Rowe looks skinnier. If thinner equals faster, ¡Viva La Rowe! Brandon Bair got in the game a few times, and I have a feeling he will have another very good year this year, using his height as leverage to get hands in opposing QBs' vision. While many of you talked about how inconspicuous Will Tukuafu was last year, Tukuafu was drawing doubles a lot of the time. We will probably miss Tukuafu's presence over on that side of the line more than his highlights.
- Linebackers: Bo Lokombo was flying around, but every other of our starters and rotation-guy linebackers were pretty quiet. Well, maybe not quiet. They were subtle, I guess. Former linebacker Eddie Pleasant was found in on many plays early on in the game, but other than that it was a pretty docile day for our linebackers, who were probably as well going fairly easy on an exhibition game.
- Defensive backs: Terrance Mitchell, a newcomer, had a 46-yard pick six in the first drive off of a Darron Thomas misfire. A defensive lineman sprinted towards Thomas and avoided hitting the young quarterback for safety reasons, so the officials present for whatever reason didn't call it a sack. Avoiding the "sack", Thomas stepped up and threw into double coverage over the middle and was picked off by the very, very speedy Mitchell. He took it to the house, which was awesome for him, but I hope it doesn't mean that Thomas is going to be a kid who will try to fit the ball into two-inch target and get picked like that. The rest of the secondary seemed to be good at getting off the receivers' blocks fairly well. There were many times the bubble screens were foiled due to a man breaking a block. However, it's hard to tell whether that was poor blocking on the receivers' parts or just skill and drive by the defensive backs. Looking forward to seeing how well the young corners play this coming year with Eddie Pleasant playing Bruce Lee behind them in case they get burnt.
All in all, a fun time yesterday. Though the Spring Game means hardly anything in the long run, it gave us a fairly good look at what kind of passers and runners Costa and Thomas are, among other things. I have a feeling Costa will win the job, but Thomas is certainly not far behind him at the moment, and could jump Costa if he proves to be knowledgeable enough of the playbook and composed enough when reading and confronting blitzes.
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It was hard for the linebackers to have much of an impact with the way the offensive gameplan played out yesterday.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 2, 2010 5:42 PM PDT reply actions
that is very true
I feel like the WRs did better than people are giving them justice for.
Half the wheels, twice the alibi.
Thomas
It did look like he was steering the ball a bit. Those cross routes take superior timing and the ball needs to be fired quickly. Danny O’Neil used to throw a bunch of those and was fun to watch.
I think we expect too much from spring games. If you put generic uniforms and helmets on the players, the game would probably look similar to every other spring game around the country. All in all, a good time, good practice and no one got injured.
I am not sure if this was in fact the case,
But it seemed to me that DT would lock onto one WR early on, and not progress through his options downfield. I hope that the coaches can get him to look off defenders…
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Given the rules of engagement..
.. it’s unpossible to suggest that either of the red-jerseyed QBs ran the ball “surprisingly well.” Unless you think live-game opposition is going to play some variation of Matador Defense.
This game was an exhibition, and a chance for a lot of the younger players to get out there and show something. Which is probably why only the top two QBs were wearing red.
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Why the hell not?
Unless you think live-game opposition is going to play some variation of Matador Defense.
True… Cal did get a new Defensive Coordinator.
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"
Don’t laugh. Remember, we played this under Rich Stubler back in ’96. A CFL-style defense, where the linemen play a full yard off the ball, and the LBs and DBs are responsible for catching running backs and receivers from behind.
Bellotti dumped Stubler’s concept after his 3-0 team wound up shredded at Wazzu for 52 points by the middle of the 3rd quarter. But it took the team 4 more losses to get its legs back under the defense.
I always thought the ‘96 season was MB’s best coaching performance of his career, even if hiring Stubler was just about the dumbest thing he ever did overall.
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Why the hell not?
And the name of that system?
“The Edge”. First name, “Giving the other team”.
Oh, man, I must have blocked that out. Absolutely right.
The Edge. Now I know why I hate U2.
Five-game conference losing streaks will do that to you.
I had great season tickets that year. Those first two conference home games were excruciating.
Skip Hicks of UCLA running for 150+.. in the third quarter.
The loss to UW, with Corey Dillon going for 200+. And all the purple in the stands. Damn, that was embarrassing.
The midseason quote from Jaiya Figueras — “We just aren’t executing. We just have to play perfect every time and it will be OK.” (Any defense which is predicated on every player executing with absolute precision on every down is doomed from the start — nobody’s perfect.)
And falling behind Arizona by two TDs very early. “Here we go again.” But wait — the comeback! Saladin goes crazy! Beat Arizona, beat Cal, stomp the Beavers. Winner winner tofu dinner!
So, it ended well, but damn, that was a shit defense.
BENZDUCK FOR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR!
Why the hell not?
For those that missed it, here’s the beauty of the edge defense.
Oh, that was a fun time.
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That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. Here, O-line get a running start at the defense…ok?
Putting produce in your beer is just plain porn.
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The stat difference from ’95 (when the defense was led by Charlie Waters) was just amazing.
The Ducks went from 111 rushing rpg —> 185 rushing ypg
Passing defense went from 184 ypg and 48.3 completion percentage to 252.5 ypg and 56.1 completion percentage.
The went from giving up 22.7 pgg to 32.4 ppg.
It was the dumbest thing ever.
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See sometimes I hate the fact that our school is in Eugene. You know Bellotti got convinced this was a good idea after a late night toke or two. I mean you have to be high to think this was going to be a good defensive scheme.
Putting produce in your beer is just plain porn.
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That’s the most reasonable explanation I’ve heard to date.
MB, for his part, never went public with any dispute with Stubler, at least not that I can recall. But it only took one game against a decent WSU team to convince him that Stubler was one or two suits short of a full deck. Trouble was, it’s pretty hard to completely redesign a defense four games into the season.
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Why the hell not?
Now there’s a sad story.
That ’95 team was really good — better than the ’94 team. Just had a couple of hiccups, at ASU and at home vs Stanford (gaah). That Stanford loss cost them a return trip to the Rose. Still, 9-2, and in the Cotton Bowl. The D was flying all over the field. MB had a great staff, with Al Borges running the offense and the legendary Charlie Waters as DC. Tony Graziani was being called one of the great Oregon quarterbacks of all time.
Then Waters’ son — a junior at Marist, IIRC, and a good soccer player — dies in the bathtub. Unknown causes.
The air went out of the season at that point. They gave it a good effort for most of the 1st half, then Marvin Washington picks off a Graziani pass close to the end zone. Pick 6, it’s like 21-6 at that point, and they mailed in the 2nd half.
Waters and his family moved back to Texas, heartbroken. Borges moved to UCLA, where he ran one of the conference’s greatest offensive shows. MB had to retool, and the result was Dirk Koetter and Rich Stubler.
Waters gave up football after ’95 and went into private business.
BENZDUCK FOR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR!
Why the hell not?
Oddly, I liked them until roughly 1996. So, there is a rough correlation to the DC situation..
I don’t exactly hate them now, but to paraphrase Sam Spade, if I gave them a second thought I probably would.
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Why the hell not?
Their new stuff certainly isn’t as good as their 80’s stuff, but I didn’t get into them until around 2000 anyway, so maybe I have a little different perspective. I just genuinely enjoy a lot of their music. And I appreciate that they haven’t gotten involved (as far as I know) in a lot of the petty squabbles and crazy lifestyle of many other rock bands.
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I know a lot of people get annoyed at their political grandstanding, but I generally ignore that stuff (from everyone, not just U2), which is why it doesn’t bother me.
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Love the music,
hate the grandstanding. Reading Bono’s editorials on Africa in the New York Times makes me retch uncontrollably.
by HoodRiverDuck on May 4, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
In theory, I like the fact that he’s at least conscious about that kind of thing, but I can honestly say I’ve never read any of his opinions. I think it’s better that way, although I understand people who can’t separate the two.
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What bothers me about it
is that somehow being a rockstar qualifies him to editorialize on geopolitical strife.
He dropped out of a music academy to form a band when he was 19. But you know, he’s famous and all, so I guess that’s good enough.
by HoodRiverDuck on May 4, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Again, saying this without knowing exactly what Bono has said, I think advocating for social justice can come from anybody. Good for any celebrity who uses their fame and resources to help people, whether they are in Africa or wherever.
Is Bono totally informed on the issues? Probably not. Is his lifestyle hypocritical based on the things he advocates for? Probably to some extent, yes. But hey, it’s better than nothing.
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I’d say that Bono, based on a reading of some of his op-ed pieces in the NYT, has a significantly firmer grasp on important world issues than, for example, Sarah Palin.
Think about it. What qualifies HER to editorialize on anything resembling geopolitics?
BENZDUCK FOR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR!
Why the hell not?
Let’s just say I’d vote for Bono over Palin, but I find both rockstars and politicians to be generally distasteful.
by HoodRiverDuck on May 4, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
When you're a star, people will sometimes listen to you.
We have innumerable experts on geopolitical strife in the world. Most of these experts are either college professors, statesmen, think-tank analysts, and op-ed journalists.
None of these groups are likely to rouse widespread support for a cause. Bono can; he already has the pulpit and the audience.
Read this, and come back here and tell me he’s just grandstanding. (And I’m not a U2 fan.)
BENZDUCK FOR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR!
Why the hell not?
I couldn't care less if Bono wants to make a political statement
What makes him qualified? What makes you or me qualified? Should he not use his platform? I used my platform to shove my take on donating food down your throats? Who the hell am I?
Here’s my take on celebrities doing political stuff. Good for them. If people are stupid enough to listen to their favorite celebrity without giving it any rational thought, that’s a stupid people problem.
I put lemon in my beer and ketchup on my hot dogs. If you don't like it, tough.
--Dave
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If people are stupid enough to listen to their favorite celebrity without giving it any rational thought, that’s a stupid people problem.
But if people are not-so-conscientious enough of world issues and a celebrity helps to heighten the awareness, they’re doing a good thing no matter what. I think most people will give “rational thought” to the matters that are brought to their attention. It’s not that Bono saying it makes it a world issue, it’s Bono saying it that makes it an issue to think about — which is a great thing. I’m not a Bono fan. Not a fan of U2. But I think Bono’s certainly doing the right thing.
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exactly
hence, the first part of my comment.
Usually, when I hear people complaining about this, its a “well, people will follow their favorite celebrity indiscriminately”
Thats a stupid people problem, not a famous person problem.
I put lemon in my beer and ketchup on my hot dogs. If you don't like it, tough.
--Dave
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I agree completely
While my comment about Bono was certainly tongue-in-cheek, I do admire his commitment to what he believes in. I don’t always agree with him politically, but I do sometimes. Problem is, some people are just sheep. Which is fine too I suppose – takes all sorts to make the world go round. I just wish they wouldn’t bleat so loud.
Maybe if Beavers would stop kidnapping them, they wouldn't make as much noise.
by HoodRiverDuck on May 5, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
like I said
that’s a stupid people problem, not a famous person problem
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
Sorry Benz, I was referencing the final play of the UW – ASU game last year. And in 1996 I was a fresh-faced kid in SoCal trying to figure out how high school worked.
My knowledge of anything Oregon football prior to 2000 derives mainly from your writeups (which are always excellent).
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While searching for a video regarding that (Because I love that Huskey defense on that play).
And I found Petros saying “I cannot begin to explain it to you because I’m stupid.”
http://multimedia.foxsports.com/m/video/26960854/petros-washington-asu-recap.htm
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"
Foxsports needs to work on their speech to text
“What pop everybody on the dot com — you all say that to happen naked and tied it… "
Early on when all of the ones and twos were in, there was certainly effort exerted by the defense in trying to stop the QBs.
Costa and Thomas both were tucking the ball and gaining yardage fairly well.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
For a second there, I thought you said “Costa and Thomas were both fucking the ball”.
Welcome to Nashville, LeGarrette. Also, I love the Jay-Hey Kid.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 3, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty unimpressive?
Not sure I buy that characterization of the offensive line play. For green team, Barner with 96 yards on 9 carries? Someone was getting blocked at the point of attack. Considering the general disarray and bad snaps we saw in last year’s spring game from that unit, I thought the O-line looked pretty solid for being split up.
"...the noise is one aspect, but you can feel the intensity of their crowd." - Pete Carroll on Oregon's Autzen Stadium.
I felt the performance of the line when LaMichael was in the game early on was unimpressive.
As they day went on and Barner got work in, they certainly seemed to get in the rhythm. However, I stand by that in the first quarter or so, the Green O-line was playing fairly shakily. I would have to watch the game film or something in order to speak definitively, but LaMichael’s early carries as well as Thomas’ keepers were seeming to be very hard to get past the line of scrimmage.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
the line play means nothing at all
1st unit+2nd unit=no cohesion and chemistry
Half the wheels, twice the alibi.
O-line: This one is hard to gauge because of the draft into the game. The O-lines for both teams were consequently very fragmented and neither were complete first-string lines. The White Team line looked better to me as Costa was almost always getting more time than Thomas was. By the second half, with all the walk-on linemen in, Hawkins was on the run a lot of the time. So, there’s really no point in grading the O-line in this game.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
am i not allowed my own opinions?
or are you entitled to copyright whatever comes out of your mouth/onto your monitor
Half the wheels, twice the alibi.
I’m with Axe on this one, that was a tad over the top, Quinn. It was funny in the Altman thread, but twice? Sometimes it’s best just to let the fish flop around the barrel for awhile longer.
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Axemen responded to Quinn with something Quinn has already said.
I think it’s appropriate myself.
its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"
Alright, that's fair then.
I thought you were disagreeing with me by once again saying exactly what I said. My mistake on that one.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
Sorry, I just thought it was easier than writing exactly what I said in the original post twice.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
WRs
What’s up Quacks? I do need to catch up on some football news but wanted to ask if anyone knows what is going on with Tyrece Gaines and Diante Jackson? I haven’t heard a peep about either one of them, and since Gaines is supposedly already a JR, when should we start expecting some contributions from him?
Jackson was sidelined with some injury issues during most of the spring, and Gaines has ineligible due to academics, so we unfortunately didn’t get to see much of them during the spring.
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Earning above a 2.0 GPA generally, not sure if it's different in our program though.
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I have a Ropert is God™ complex.
I really hope both can get on the field in the fall. I love the Maehlman, and Davis and Tuinei are both solid, but I think those two guys have the potential to take the receiving corps from “decent” to “good.”
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