Quack Fix: Four hits won't beat the Beavs; Payne to KY; Chip Kelly checks in.
by JConant on May 27, 2010 7:59 AM PDT
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- If there's going to be any crack in what has been an otherwise remarkable turnaround for Ducks baseball, it may be the inability to win a close game with Oregon State. The Beavs won another 1-run game in last night's non-conference game at PGE Park in Portland. Four hits won't get you wins against any team, and coach George Horton was clearly displeased with his team's approach at the plate.
- We say farewell to Kenny Payne, who has decided to take a job on John Calipari's staff at Kentucky. Payne's recruiting abilities seem to be well respected around the country and it's hard to imagine a guy turning down a chance to be part of Kentucky basketball. Ron Bellamy at the R-G caught up with Payne, who had a lot of nice things to say about his run at Oregon.
- More on Payne's exit from John Hunt at The Oregonian. And more coverage by the Courier-Journal in Lexington.
- The Ducks softball team is finding its defense just in time for a post-season run.
- It's go time for Oregon track and field. A total of 46 Duck athletes are taking part the NCAA championship preliminary round that begins today in Austin, TX. The west regional determines the participants for the NCAA championship meet coming up June 9-12 at Hayward Field. This is one of those meets where you hold your breath and hope everyone performs to their ability. As Robert Hussman at the ODE writes, Oregon's mindset is to survive and advance.
- Chip Kelly checks in from German - audio clip from KEZI about his trip to visit troops overseas.
- Am I alone in perceiving the Jordan Holmes has been overlooked a bit for his play at center for Oregon? Maybe not any more. Someone got it right when Holmes was named as one of 37 centers on the annual Rimington Trophy watch list.
- D-1 football coaches on the hot seats heading into 2010? Not in the state of Oregon. Here are the CBS Sports ratings for Pac-10 coaches.
- Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott was at the Multnomah Athletic Club in Portland yesterday. R-G columnist George Schroeder reports that Scott's message was clear: big changes are in store for the west coast's preeminent conference. And for that - considering the lack of progress under former commish Tom Hansen - I'd like to offer a little word of thanks to 8-pound, 6-ounce baby Jesus, in your golden fleece diapers...
Hey, if you got more quack, bust it out. No one likes a quack hog.
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I was so hoping that that ugly baseball game would get rained out
I was afraid that we’d play another uninspired, poor game against our rival (who appeared to want the game far more than we did) and lose . . . again! Hope they shake it off and play better against Cal. I wish we had stayed home to get ready for Cal rather than making the beavs’ day.
They were trying hard
But sometimes it just doesn’t happen. OSU made a number of very good defensive plays to save hits.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I have to ask
I haven’t followed college baseball as closely ever as I have this season: Are the Ducks still on the bubble for the tournament? Or is it merely a seeding question at this point?
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Horton thinks maybe we are in, while sites like Rivals put us in the Norman regional
as a #2 seed. I just want us to keep taking steps forward, not “three steps backaward” like Coach Horton said.
One site had us on the bubble for hosting a regional, but it’s hard to see that happening. I think we really needed to impress the seeding committee with some big wins at the end . . . like last night. Our young guys don’t seem to understand the rivalry like the beavs do.
oh my.
Use this as the caption contest picture for today guys, cause I don’t have anything better.
Half the wheels, twice the alibi.
There are no words that can describe this.
"The code word for going on two might be, you know, "Mickelson,’’ because he always comes in second – stuff like that.'’
Different Conant, related somewhere distant on the family tree. Look up a Keith Conant – student body president at South probably about ’83 or ’84. Also not directly related. I believe the two of them may have been brother and sister.
31-6, 45-21, 34-14, 55-34, 44-10, 43-19. Do you see a pattern?
haha I'm not interested in your family tree
there’s just a K. Conant up on the track record board.
Half the wheels, twice the alibi.
Well, I could have gone with the how much of an ass can I make Axemen look like version, like this:
No, she didn’t. My sister died when she was 13 and a student at Spencer Butte MS. So she didn’t set any track records at SEHS.
31-6, 45-21, 34-14, 55-34, 44-10, 43-19. Do you see a pattern?
Don’t be. It’s life and things like that happen. I’m comfortable talking about it, even here. Of course, it may be that things like my ‘83 yearbook picture and who may or may not be related to me in SEHS history isn’t interesting the rest of the ATQ community…thus it seems a bit tedious to me.
You’re still a Southie. As am I. All is good.
31-6, 45-21, 34-14, 55-34, 44-10, 43-19. Do you see a pattern?
Um, I’m not too sure about this new Autzen Entrance routine
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
Chip Kelly scores a touchdown for America.
by JonathanPDX on May 27, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Thoughts from attending last night's game
1. Our fans are crazy wherever we are. I was in the first row behind our dugout (that’s my reward for buying tix just after they went on sale) and there were a bunch of real drunk Oregon fans next to me who spent the entire game heckling random OSU players.
2. Casey deservedly got kicked out. I could hear everything he was saying since he was about ten feet away, and there was LOTS of swearing and amusing gestures.
3. Whenever we got a base-runner, OSU pitchers would throw about 8 million pickoff throws, causing the Oregon bench to yell “BACK!” at the top their lungs.
4. Our pitching staff has some serious heat, we were a good 10 mph faster on average than OSU.
5. OSU may have only given up four hits but that was due in no small part to their defense, which was spectacular for the most part. Ours was good too but not quite as spectacular.
6. Both teams need base-running lessons.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I disagree with #6
The way we aggressively run the bases and work unique ways to advance, there’s bound to be some mistakes. Unfortunately, sometimes those mistakes manifest themselves multiple times in the same game. When you’re gambling on a hit-and-run, etc, sometimes you lose. That being said, we need to be better at keeping track of the # of outs and simple things of that nature, because those will kill us.
Half the wheels, twice the alibi.
Its a sign of inexepereince (and a general college thing)
The worst was the OSU player who held up in one of the early innings on a ball hit deep. Could have easily scored but ending up getting nailed at home.
Baserunning is one of the things that you really notice as a difference as you move up in quality of play, so it wasn’t a huge shock.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I disagree with your disagreement. Though I understand your perspective.
You have to separate instances for getting caught being overly aggressive and flat-out foolish base running. I’ve watched or listened to plenty of Duck games this year. There have been ample instances of both. Some of it I can’t even explain as inexperience…with one out, a runner at third always tags up, even on a medium depth fly ball to right field, especially if the right fielder is having to make a long run into foul territory.
The aggression is very effective, and there’s no reason to get hung up on the instances where it doesn’t work out. Eliminate the foolish mistakes – the guy getting picked off at second versus UW – and you’re an even better team.
31-6, 45-21, 34-14, 55-34, 44-10, 43-19. Do you see a pattern?
1. Our fans are crazy wherever we are. I was in the first row behind our dugout (that’s my reward for buying tix just after they went on sale) and there were a bunch of real drunk Oregon fans next to me who spent the entire game heckling random OSU players.
I would hope our kids have thick skin, because I know the Goss crowd, even when small, can be a pretty harsh bunch.
Aren’t you guys glad you added baseball? Isn’t this fun? (Sorry, came across sounding like a lame substitute teacher there but seriously, isn’t this fun?!)
I must say, the duck broadcast team might be good for football and basketball (being a Beaver, I obviously tune in to my homer, not yours) but they really need to figure out baseball. I tried listening for a few innings and they fail to mention the count, lose track of plays and still seem to be learning how to call the game. I guess I’m spoiled, because if Mike Parker has a strength, it’s calling a baseball game. The dude is great. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t take a shot at an MLB job someday.
The UO broadcast team
first off, the TV team is horrible. Joe Giansante is not a good announcer. Rumor is he’s a good dude, and did a lot to get the baseball team back. But he’s not a good announcer.
On the radio side, I love Jerry Allen for football games. He’s okay with baseball games. Basketball games I have no idea what’s going on.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
Yeah, I don’t even give the TV a chance because most ducks I know won’t watch it themselves. I can only imagine it’d irritate me even more!
I believe I’ve heard parts of Jerry Allen calls for football games and I can see the draw. I have my obvious preference but can also admit he wasn’t bad by any means, just simply not a homer for MY team.
Don’t you love our homer radio people in this state?! It’s awesome.
Jerry for football is awesome
He’s a homer but he’s a good homer, he really wants the team to win but isn’t so biased he can’t see what’s happening.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I feel the same way about Mike Parker. And of course, if you listened to Parker and I listened to Allen, we’d probably think the other one was crazy and think both of them are shameless homers!
I don't mind homers
For the most part, except for Joey G, who is so bad.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Ugh
Am I in the minority? I can’t stand Jerry Allen for football or basketball. The Pick call notwithstanding (best radio moment evar), I don’t lke homerism at all. I grew up listening to Vin Scully call Dodger games, though, so I know I am spoiled rotten for radio announcers.
by HoodRiverDuck on May 27, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
The one game that I got to hear Jerry Allen on TV because Giansante had a baby stuck in his throat (or was sick, I couldn’t tell), Jerry was pretty good. He had good insight on the game and was able to keep up on stats, pitch counts, and strategies.
I really like listening to him.
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
Vin Scully is obviously one of the best. I think when colleges employ broadcast teams you’re going to get a bit of homerism, and people in Oregon are crazy about ducks and beavs so I think that rubs off.
True enough
Funny thing, of all the broadcasters for the Ducks last year, Bellotti’s commentary always seemed to be the least homerish of all.
(Homerish? Homeresque? Homery?)
by HoodRiverDuck on May 27, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Our baseball radio broadcasts are almost unbearable. He may be a Beav homer now, and he may lose it from time to time, but I really enjoy Mike Parker. Always have.
Would love to hear my old college buddy Rich Burk doing Ducks baseball. Rich is really good on the radio and the guy lives and breathes baseball.
31-6, 45-21, 34-14, 55-34, 44-10, 43-19. Do you see a pattern?
Baseball is hard to call, so they definitely should pull your buddy into the fold. Maybe Allen will catch up but for now, it’s pretty bad from the sampling I’ve had.
Glad to hear a non-Beav appreciate Parker. He’s a homer, but face it, like Allen, he’s paid to be. Parker doing any sport is awesome, but Parker doing baseball is something else. Great stuff.
Norris for some reason was a big target
Lots of “Norris, YOU SUCK!” chants.
Joey G sucks and Dwight Jaynes is senile.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I didn’t listen to the TV call. Had it on mute with Mike Parker telling me the future (radio was about 2 seconds ahead at times).
4. Our pitching staff has some serious heat, we were a good 10 mph faster on average than OSU.
I didn’t make it to the game, were they posting speeds? Speed’s not everything—OSU only allowed 1 hit after the 5th (4 total) while UO gave up 11. Horton can recruit ‘em though. That team will be dangerous at whatever regional they make, that’s for sure. Hope we can punch out ticket this weekend, would love for both teams to make a run.
Kenny Payne
Anybody else find Payne’s exit to Kentucky in tangent with Jones’ recruitment a little off colored? Given that Calipari has hired assistants in the past that had a tie to recruit (usually at the high school level), I find it suspect. Mainly, because if Payne was complicit at all then he was working for Kentucky while being paid at Oregon.
What about college basketball isn’t suspect? Nothing to get excited about.
31-6, 45-21, 34-14, 55-34, 44-10, 43-19. Do you see a pattern?
I would care if I were Oregon..
and I was paying Payne and he was working for Kentucky, or if Calipari told Jones he would hire the guy who recruited him at Oregon whom he had a bond with. There is plenty of precedent to suggest Calipari would do that.
by Duckity_Duck on May 27, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks Jeremy you messed up my reply too.
He can tell Jones whatever he wants. That he’ll hire Payne, that he’ll schedule a game in Portland against UP, that he’ll jump down turn around and pick a bale of cotton. It really doesn’t matter much if Jones decides to go to UW, or if Payne decides not to leave Oregon or if UP decides they’d rather not play UK.
We know Cal is a slime bag recruiter and will say or do anything to get the kids he wants, but that doesn’t change the fact that Jones has to CHOOSE to go there. Oregon really has very little recourse at this point and should just move on from Payne and the Ernie Kent era.
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
Jerk
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
I’m confident that won’t ruin my day.
31-6, 45-21, 34-14, 55-34, 44-10, 43-19. Do you see a pattern?
by JConant on May 27, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
understood that Oregon has no recourse...
just idle speculation… However, what does this say about Payne that he wants to go work under Johnny CONapari….?
by Duckity_Duck on May 27, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
There is no evidence that Payne was working for Kentucky. In fact, many were saying that Payne would be coming back because he had continued to be on the recruiting trail for the Ducks up until he visited Kentucky last week.
There is no reason to think that there was any improprieties during this transition.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I understand there was no evidence...
just idle speculation on my part… fortunately I don’t write a newspaper column and print idle speculation that has no grounds for accusations (cough Rachel and John at the O).
by Duckity_Duck on May 27, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I just flat out don't care
its college basketball, and its shady. It may or may not have happened. Whatever. Its best just to move on and begin a new era.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
Holy crap, I just heard a replay of Mike Parker (OSU’s radio announcer) when Casey got ejected last night. OH MY GOODNESS. Parker absolutely lost it on the air including dropping his mike and yelling at the ump so that the color guy had to pick up and talk for him.
That’s hillarious.
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
It was a good call too
The OSU first base coach didn’t complain at all.
No way Casey could see it of course.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
It was questionable. They showed the replay on TV and the strike call was questionable and Casey definitely pushed it getting in the ump’s face like he did. But for a radio guy to go absolutely berserk like that is funny. Like he’s going to be able to change the ump’s mind.
“I know I just called that a strike, but since the radio guy is yelling at me, I guess I’ll give the guy the base”
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
I was close to the call
Its a funny rule but it was the right call.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Btw is there an online recording of it somewhere?
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
95.5 has been running it during the breaks if you can listen to that. I’ll try and find one online
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
Watching it on TV, it was very questionable. But hey, those calls go both ways and sometimes you’re on the wrong end. Casey’s freak out was weird. The guy is usually pretty stoic. But hey, it seemed to light a fire under the pitching staff’s arses.
Btw, I've heard conflicting reports on whether he faces an automatic 3-game ban?
Do you know what’s true?
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
They’re saying he might… it depends on whether or not the contact he made with him is ruled incidental or not, and I don’t even know if that counts for anything. I think as soon as you start bumping the ump around you’re in trouble.
I think they’re counting on at least one game.
I'll admit I didn't see him touch the ump
But he definitely caused the guy to back-peddle and may well have.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
OSU broadcast said he didn’t, duck broadcast said he might have, so go figure. I think it’s automatically a game. Hopefully it’s not three.
He was at best inches from him
So I would NOT be shocked if he did touch him.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
It looked like on TV that his hat rim was bumping the ump and since Casey was towering over him it kept bumping the ump in the top of the head. It didn’t look like his chest or arms ever touched the ump.
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
Hmmm… I bet that counts as touching. Didn’t Horton have a similar run in last year that cost him three games??
I posted the link
Horton’s cap bill touched the ump and he got 3 games. I doubt Casey will get the same.
http://special.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/sports/10409028-46/story.csp
Oh and Horton didn't even know his cap had touched the ump
I’d call that incidental, but it didn’t matter in his 3-game suspension.
Parker is a good guy, his freak out on the radio is hillarious. He basically just stops calling the game and starts yelling at the ump “that’s terrible” “that’s a horrible call” and you can hear it in the background, while the color guy has to start stammering and saying things like “it looks like Casey has been ejected… uhhh it looked like a…. uhh questionable call…uhh” while Parker is in the background just going nuts at the ump.
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
I don't know why beavs expected the OSN broadcast of our game to be neutral
If they had their own crew calling the game, it might have had a beav slant . . . what a surprise! And for the beav who has dominated the posts today, I will defend Joe G. He is a GREAT guy who works long and hard for us. People love to bash him because of his homerism, but I won’t . . . I get beavs in my face ALL THE TIME (two more on the beach this morning on my walk), so I can’t get enough of Joe G.‘s homerism. And yes, he did TONS of work to get baseball back at Oregon. As for a suspension for Casey, Horton’s cap brushed an ump last year and he was suspended. I wouldn’t be surprised if St. Pat skates.
And for the beav who has dominated the posts today…
What can I say? I simply dominate.
Anyway, I don’t think I really complained about the OSN broadcast, other than your pal Joe G. and Dwight Jaynes don’t do a very good job calling a baseball game. Some of your fellow ducks agree.
Oh, and I apologize for the Beavs who are in your face all the time. When I wear my OSU stuff around town I actually enjoy the smack from ducks—most of the time it’s playful and when it’s not, I certainly don’t blame the bulk of duck fans. Every fan base has jerks who can’t deal with success or failure without knocking someone else down, that’s not news. Hopefully we’re on the same page there.
Anyway, hope you’re enjoying baseball season.
I don't enjoy the smack . . . at all
What’s (not so) funny is that I never, ever initiate any talk with beavs, but they will walk right up to me to say something dumb. If I EVER say anything in return, it is “whatever”. I know every fan base has its jerks, but I can’t begin to tell you how tired I am of the beav “fans” who cannot just walk by and keep their mouths shut. I have two neighbors who begin every “conversation” with something negative about the Ducks.
I’ve been to 6 games at PK Park and have enjoyed much of this season. I worked hard to raise money for the baseball program when Rick Bay disbanded it and would not have believed we would be where we are today. But, I will admit to being frustrated when we (in Horton’s words) take three steps backwards like we did last night and the beavs on the beach reminded me that they own us.
I stopped a stupid argument at PGE Park last night
Between a bunch of Oregon fans and the one OSU fan near us by yelling “If you keep fighting, the Huskies win!” It worked.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I’m sorry you feel that way. It’s very cool that you worked to bring baseball back—hopefully people appreciate the efforts of people like you. We’ve been blessed at OSU to have a program that’s done some pretty amazing things in the past 5-10 years and with that success, you’ll probably have to listen to not-so-classy beavs until Horton brings you a pair of rings (or at least one). Even then I’m sure they’ll find something to razz you about. I caught a lot of crap about the CW (for the past two freaking years) and know the feeling… just try to let it roll of your back, you’ll be happier. The only other options I can think of would be not wearing any duck gear or moving, neither of which I think you would enjoy.
No, we should just make all baver fans wear Duck gear. That will solve all the problems of the world.
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
I think we shoudl ban crappy orange sunglasses
A bunch of the OSU fans last night were wearing them. They were butt ugly. I would have said the same thing about crappy green sunglasses.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
How about we have a uniform switch day next year
The ducks wear the Orange and Black and the Beavers wear the Green and Yellow.
Half the wheels, twice the alibi.
Stop! You're freaking me out!
I’ve been worried about the ducks adding orange as an alternate color—stop feeding my fears!
Didn't you know, we've already added Orange
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
by Matt Daddy on May 27, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
hey matt, have you gotten my emails?
I hate to ask on here, but my email has been really screwy lately so idk what’s going through and whats not.
Half the wheels, twice the alibi.
I don't know if this is the name of the place (see photo above) or not but....at the Gateway Mall
there is a duck stuff store (an they sell beaver shit too) and I just got a green winged jersey # 8 for $36. Want LMJ, $48, which seemed like a pretty good deal to me (all different sizes, must be a dozen or so left) there was also a XXL black winged jersey too.
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
If we’re banning things, let us beaver fans know, ‘cause we’ve got our list of duck stuff too.
Were they some cheap promo thing or just cheesy oakley fakes?
Fakes
One of the OSU fans I ran into told me that they got like 20 of them for $10.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Since I don't initiate contact or respond, I already let it roll off my back.
As for moving or not wearing my Duck gear . . . my Duck alum parents had us in Duck gear from the time we were born, and I am proud of the two degrees I earned from the University of Oregon. Also, I am a third generation Portlander and am not about to move. But . . . whatever!
OSU fans are hostile, that’s about it. I remember at 65-38 before the game they were talking a lot of trash. I was wearing my brand new Blount jersey with wings and loving life. A few Bavers walked by mocking the wings on the jersey and told me it must be nice having George Steinbrenner paying for everything. I retorted that I thought they would be more up on the MLB being pretend baseball fans. After he staggered closer to me and gave the classic tough guy “What did you say to me?” I told him again that he was a pretend baseball fan and asked him to name 3 players on the baseball roster. His machavellian response? “Whatever…”
by mackjones23 on May 28, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I won’t bash Giansante for his homerism (there are countless great broadcasters who are huge homers).
No, I’ll instead bash Giansante because he is TERRIBLE at his job. He is so flat-out atrocious its sickening. He is simply incapable of doing a halfway decent job of watching a game and describing what is happening on the field.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Instead Joey will spend lots of time
Talking about how wonderful random Oregon staffers or donors are, or minor parts of PK Park.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
There's a lot to rave about when it comes to PK Park
I can understand how proud Joe G is of the part he played in making it all happen. But I’m on the losing end of the argument with both Ducks and beavs on Joe G. apparently. Oh well, I just hope he keeps working as hard as he does for the Ducks, because like him or not, he’s doing good work for the University.
It's so funny
That Mike Parker went to Oregon and Don Essig went to OSU. They are now all Beaver and Duck respectively.
Jerry Allen, having attended SOU (i.e. University of Oregon, South Campus) didn’t really need to make a transition.
When Giansante said this during the civil war, he lost all sports credibility to me.
I don’t understand why the clock stopped after that first down.
After the Kenjon Barner First Down. I may not be 100% on the words after I don’t understand why the clock stopped but he did say it.
Also the Arizona game where the dude is standing there holding the football, Giansante is screaming that the Ducks recovered it. He couldn’t see past the fat covering his eyes to see a big dude in red holding a football in the air. Giansante is garbage.
by mackjones23 on May 27, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
And I was listening on the radio to that Zona play
Jerry thought we might have recovered it for about a second and then said “Nah, Zona has it.”
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
remember the camera’s for the oregon broadcast never caught the Arizona guy coming out of the pile with it and him and Anthony Newman were calling the game from field level in a corner. its still hilarious to laugh at when the replay the full game. well…cuz we won…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Who would you pick in a Homer-Off: Mike Rice, or Giansante?
by JonathanPDX on May 27, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Mike Rice for my own obvious allegiances to both the beavs and the blazers.
But at least Rice is funny. And drunk.
Rice also knows the game
I’m not sure Joey G does
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
We have officially hit double digit days left until September 4th.
I feel like I should say something smart.
by Jayon on May 27, 2010 2:34 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Seriously, how awkward was that hug between Kobe and Ron Ron at the end there? It looked like Ron was trying to do to Kobe’s leg what my dog does to the couch pillow when I throw it to him on the floor.
I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack
Fuck LA. Fuck Ron Artest. Fuck Boise State. Fuck Terrelle Pryor. Fuck Slick Rick, Kiffenbear, the Huskies, and Kobe Bryant. All at the same time. In a blender.
by JonathanPDX on May 27, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
And say QUEENSBRIDGE!
Seriously, Artest forcing Sager to say Queensbridge was hilarious, as much as I hate him.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I really hope Master Wolf becomes a blazers fan just to spite his old man
Half the wheels, twice the alibi.
Meh
It wouldn’t bother me. It might bother me a little if I get more into the Lakers once Kobe moves on, but right now I’m much more passionate about baseball, college football, and hockey. If he becomes a Blazers fan, I could get behind that. I think the Blazers have a fun team to watch, especially when they’re healthy (although has that even happened the last couple years?).
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So let me get this straight. You dislike a movie (Sideways) which is make-believe because of how it deals with infidelity. Yet you root for Kobe Bryant?
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Kobe didn’t do it.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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That’s not what Kobe says. That’s his thing.
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No, Matt. He didn't do it.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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Yes, but not the ones you’re looking for. Move along.
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I’ve been very public here about the fact that I can’t stand Kobe (I was actually an acquaintance of his wife our freshman year of high school, before she was his wife, obviously). I’m glad it was Artest who made that shot rather than Bryant.
I still root for the Lakers because it’s not that easy to just switch allegiances, despite the scumbag that’s the star of the team. I root for laundry, what can I say? I’d be enjoying this a lot more if Kobe wasn’t the star of the team, but he is and there’s nothing I can do about it. I just hope that Gasol, or Odom, or Fisher, or whoever else does well.
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And yes, infidelity has a lot to do with why I don’t like Kobe. But I’m sure plenty of people on this board were still fans of the Blazers when they had all their problem players. That doesn’t mean they liked the problems, but it’s tough for passionate sports fans to stop supporting the team they’ve been rooting for their whole life.
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by Gorbachav5 on May 28, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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I actually take pride in being a Blazer fan during the Jailblazer years and their subsequent collapse. It makes the resurgence that much sweeter. I was here when we were terrible, where were you fair weather fan who sits next to me wearing a Brandon Roy All Star Jersey? Where were you sir? That’s right you were rooting for Dallas or something. Get away, you disgust me single serving fan.
P.S. I objected to their misdeeds as much as anyone but like Gorby said, root for laundry. They are your team, regardless of who is on the roster. Thank you and let me get down from this soapbox.
by mackjones23 on May 28, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
There’s a difference between being a fan and supporting a team. One of the reasons the Blazers made the personel changes they did, was because people stopped supporting the team. Does that mean they weren’t fans? No. As a matter of fact the reason that person is wearing a Roy jersey is because they didn’t or wouldn’t buy one when the team was composed of low lifes.
And I do believe there are things a team can do that can cause you to give up your fandom of them. Giving up your support is just a way of influencing management with your dollars.
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The counter-argument I would make to that is… why then, was the Rose Garden so empty for the Mo Cheeks years. Granted, they weren’t a good team – but he scrubbed the jail blazer image off and people still weren’t supporting their team.
I went to a few games during that period from free tickets that were randomly distributed in the newspaper, and it was 1/3rd full at best.
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Mo Cheeks years? You man the years that had Rasheed Wallace, Bonzi Wells, Rueben Patterson, Darius Miles, and Zach Randolph? Those years?
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I was more of referring to the ‘04-’06ish time frame when most of the assclowns that created the moniker “jail blazers” moved on. I guess there were still some pretty ugly characters during that time, but the crowd in ’00 was crazy and got excited with Wallace would get a double-double, or Bonzi Wells would slam a two. The Rose Garden would sell out.
They moved (a lot of) those players out, but they also started to suck as a team. Attendance ended up going way down.
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I don’t know about mack, but I used the terms “being a fan” and “supporting” interchangeably in my post. I understand that there’s a difference, but I wasn’t trying to make one. It’s a semantic thing.
I, for example, have been a fan of the Lakers since the Magic years. I have never been to a game, mostly because of the expense and the lack of convenience. I have never bought a jersey, because I’m just not a huge fan of basketball in general. I did watch most games on TV (thank God for Chick Hearn) and followed the team very closely, at least until Kobe became one of the dominant personalities on the team. So I guess you could say I was a fan, but never really “supported” the team in a meaningful way.
Now I follow them casually and still root for them to win because they’re still my team. They haven’t done enough to completely turn me off as a fan to where I’d stop hoping they win or start rooting for another team. I can imagine if I were a season ticket holder, the Kobe shenanigans might have been enough to get me to stop buying tickets.
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I think the point I’m trying to make is that no one like bandwagonners. Sports is like a marriage. You’re in it through thick and thin for better or worse. Can there be actions that cause irrepairable damage? Certainly and sometimes it’s best to sever the relationship. My issue is with the fan who treats his team like an ex girlfriend. When she’s cute and fun they’re around but they split at the sign of trouble and when she’s looking good again they come back around to get their fill and bounce as soon as things start going downhill.
For the record Gorby, I think we’re saying essentially the same thing and I don’t want you to take this as an attack on your fanhood. I have respect for true fans of any team. Except the Fuskies.
I think Shu’s statements above show that there are very little “bandwagonners” with the Blazers. Even when the team was full of thugs and on the decline, the stands were still packed. Once that team wasn’t good on or off the court, people got fed up and stopped throwing good money after bad people.
My opinion is there are WAY more Laker bandwagon fans than Blazer fans. Plus, this Portland team has created a new wave of long term fans with their personalities and play.
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the Magic years
Speaking of infidelity.
Anyway, I guess it brings up a very subjective issue, and that is when is it OK to stop being a fan of a team. I know the answer is going to be personal to each person. I don’t know if there is ever really a time to stop being a fan, but I think support is going to be based on organization movements
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Yeah, at that point I didn’t really understand what it meant, only that he was sick and not playing basketball any more. I have a very distinct visual of that press conference, but I was only 9 when it happened.
And I think it’s very possible to be a fan of a team but not root for certain players on that team. That happens all the time. And that’s the way I feel about the Lakers and Kobe.
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I didn’t start cheering for another team, I started watching the NHL … I honestly have no idea what happened in the NBA (the whole league) from about 1992 – 2006
I wondered why the baseball kept getting bigger. Then it hit me.
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