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The Fish Report: Oregon's New Defense

 

What are we DOING on defense?  I have struggled trying to discern how the defense is different from past years, as I noted more blitzing and different defensive formations last season….but I did not know WHAT we were doing.  I’ve been writing reports for Spring and Fall Scrimmages for a dozen years and this was the first time watching spring drills that the QBs (Quarterbacks) were so uncomfortable.  Not because they were new to the job….but because they rarely had time to settle in the pocket before being sacked, forced out, or having to throw the ball away.  They were clearly uneasy in the pocket all spring and rarely had the time to get into a rhythm.  I noticed that the LBs (linebackers) were disguising their blitzes better and while you would see a couple of flashes of color headed into the offensive backfield….what were they doing and WHY?  As fast as the plays went….you can’t see what all the defenders are doing as the play starts, especially if you’re trying to watch the ball.  It was frustrating; I KNEW something was up because I hadn’t seen the defense put so much pressure on the QBs before, and we DID have an experienced OL (offensive line)…..so this shouldn’t have been happening.

I am at one of the scrimmages and I began talking to a man who played in the NFL and was a Pro-Bowler (many times) on the defensive side.  I mentioned how much pressure the defense was applying, and how it appeared to be different from the past.  He set his square jaw, looked out at the defense, and then said, “we’re running the defense better since we put it (a NEW defense) into place a year ago.”  Whaaaaat?  A new defense?  I asked him more questions about specifics, and he answered that, “what we’re doing is very similar to (NFL team).”  (NFL Pro Football)  What in the world?!  We are doing stuff from the NFL, and clearly we have a new defensive strategy, and none of us know about it?!  I read up on Oregon Football every day getting the links from around the country on ducksportsnews.com and if this was written up…..I missed it.  It appears to me that this is the most massive conversion of defensive strategy and philosophy at Oregon in fifty years! 

Now I HAD to find out what we’re doing, and what began as an overall Spring Analysis became a personal quest to dig in and learn the elements that comprise the Oregon Defense that we will see this fall.  I’ve spent over 30 hours writing this report, researching the NFL, and studying the Oregon Spring Game (four times) to decipher what YOU will learn in the next 25 minutes.  (Please….DON’T skim this.  If you don’t have the time now to fully read and comprehend it, then print it out and take it home.  For most Oregon fans…this presentation will change the way they view our defense, as it did for me) Then, Coach Aliotti was very gracious in giving me some time to confirm my conclusions.  What’s the best way to study our team?  Use a TiVo DVR with a High Definition TV as you can watch Hi-Def in slow motion WITHOUT any blur.  This helped me enormously as I could lock things an instant before the ball is snapped and then slow-mo it and watch the amazing defensive packages be unveiled before my eyes.  Stunning.  Amazing.  And it was ALL THERE, but I couldn’t see it before due to how fast they play in real time.  How special is this defense?  Less than 5% of college football teams will be implementing the defense that you will see at Autzen….as it is truly extraordinary and will mark a transformation in college defenses just as the Spread Offense has changed the college football landscape.

Please do not be insulted; I am NOT dumbing this stuff down, because I did not know this stuff!  (So what does that say about ME?  We won’t go there.)   I played on OFFENSE in High School, and loved it.  I just never learned much about defensive alignments and strategy, as I didn’t have to in High School or for watching our beloved Ducks.  Some of you coaching types will sneer at the simplicity of what follows….but heck, EVERY Duck fan I’ve spoken to about this,  (and even a fellow who PLAYED college football)…..didn’t  know this stuff either.  I’ve learned more about defensive alignments and strategy in the last two weeks than I knew in my entire life prior to this project.

Let’s start with what they call a “4-3” (said out loud as four-three) and the “3-4” defense.  I always assumed that the first number of the 4-3 or 3-4 defense was the number of DL (defensive linemen) on the LOS.  (Line of Scrimmage)  Wrong.  How do account for five DLs on the LOS?  What do we call that?  The answer is….the 3-4 defense.  What?  How can that be?  It is because the first number of the 4-3 or 3-4 refers to the number of DL who PUT A HAND DOWN into a stance.  In the Rose Bowl….we had a ton of plays where all front four DL were down in a stance WITH A HAND DOWN.  That was a 4-3 defense, meaning that we had four down DL, and three Lbs spaced out behind the DL on the left, right, and in the middle.

So what do you call it when we had five DL on the LOS in the spring game?  Answer: it was a 3-4 defense because the middle three DL HAD THEIR HAND DOWN and the DLs on the ends were actually LBs standing up…even though they were on the LOS.  OK….then what do you call the Defensive Line formation in the Spring Game where we had FOUR DL, but only three had their hand down, and one was standing up?  Again….that was a 3-4 defense because three of them HAD THEIR HAND DOWN.  Makes it easier to understand doesn’t it?  I began to wonder if that alignment was the infamous “Elephant” defense created by Pete Carrol for Brian Cushing.  (a sensational LB for the Trojans who just won the NFL Rookie of the Year Award over Oregon’s Jarius Byrd)  USC ran a 4-3 defense in practice, but simply had Cushing on the end standing up to free up his talents for rushing the passer and shedding blocks .  We, on the other hand, ARE running the 3-4 defensive strategies with the four DL, (one up & three down) DL alignment.  (Again…I didn’t know any of this before…..)

We’re running a 3-4?  I knew Cal was one of only a handful in the United States running a 3-4 in college football, and more are beginning to make the move.  At Georgia….the fans are buzzing over the change to the 3-4 and the new DC (Defensive Coordinator) from the NFL has been explaining it to the press and Bulldog fans.  To be certain…..I went back and CHARTED each defensive play in the Spring Game, asking six questions which revealed a TON of information when compiled.  We ran defensive fronts with THREE DOWN DLs with either one or two standing up at the LOS 75% of the time.  What?  That’s a 3-4 baby!  SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT of the plays run in a 3-4?  Coach Aliotti confirmed that over 50% of the defensive plays in 2009 were run in a 3-4 alignment with Zone Blitzing components on many of them.  We ran some other alignments in the Spring Game that I’ll cover in minute, but for now…..three quarters of the time in a 3-4 means that it is our base defense for the first time EVER.  Nick explained that the percentage of being in the 3-4 would be greater next year than 2009….perhaps as much or more than the Spring Game.

So how does our 3-4 work?  The original 3-4 defense or the “Bullough” 3-4 was adopted and used by Bill Parcells to begin all those Super Bowls wins by New England.  (Last year, four of the top five defenses in the NFL ran the 3-4)  The front three DL are HUGE and have to be as they are “TWO-GAP” defenders.  This means that a NT (Nose Tackle lined up in front of the center) has to occupy the center and one of the offensive guards so that the LB is free to make tackles.  The heck of it is……they are responsible for running plays on BOTH sides of the man they line up in front of.  In other words….a NT is responsible for the gaps on BOTH sides of the center.  A big and difficult responsibility which requires a gargantuan DL who have to stand their ground, hold off blockers, read the play, and go to it.  (Or read and react)  Nose Tackles in the NFL AVERAGE 330 lbs, and the biggest is 360 lbs!  These are not fat guys; they must be huge ATHLETES, as Haloti Ngata at Baltimore is 348 lbs, and we know what an athlete he was for the Ducks.   The problem with this version of the 3-4 is the scarcity of Defensive Linemen who can play it.  There are hardly enough of these for the pros, especially since so many more NFL teams are going to the “Bullough” 3-4.  So how do you make it work in the college game with much smaller DL?

The other 3-4 defense that is in the minority, but picking up interest is the “Phillips” One-Gap 3-4 defense.  It was originated by Bum Phillips who coached a ton of years in the NFL and now his son, Wade Phillips, ran this defense at the San Diego Chargers before becoming the Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys and is continuing this innovative defense.  The three DL in this defense are only responsible for ONE-GAP, and they charge into it with gusto on each play.  The intent is not to “read-and-react” like the Bullough 3-4, but to penetrate and be disruptive—to make sacks and Tackles-for-Losses.  (TFLs)  The DL in this defense DO NOT have to be big…in fact the emphasis  is on FAST and ATHLETIC defensive linemen who can plug a gap in the running game, and yet penetrate and pressure the QB on pass plays.  This is how the NT at Dallas (Jay Ratliff) can make first team All-Pro this last year while only 298 lbs!  When Dallas played their first preseason game with the new Phillips One-Gap 3-4…..the smiles were wide by the defensive linemen.  The most common quote given was, “this is FUN to play!”  So lighter, faster, more athletic D-linemen who only have one-gap responsibility and have the charge to “create mayhem” are the standard needed to run this defense?  I smiled reading that because NOW I understand how Brandon Bair at 6’7” and 267 lbs can excel in this defense, and it explains how he got Honorable Mention All-Pac-10…even though he is NOT the normal size needed for D-Line.  (BTW….Coach Nick was in Dallas for a few days in May!) Oh yeah….we have a Defensive matchup here for Oregon; we are a Phillips One-Gap 3-4 Defense and we are doing this with the defensive personnel we have RIGHT NOW.

The profile for Linebacker changes in this defense as well; we need SPEED to be able to cover the field AND be able to blitz.  Big size is NOT crucial….speed and smarts are.  They are responsible for the middle gaps not covered by the D-Line, and the outside gaps of the D-Line.  (Remember…there are FOUR LBs now, two inside, and two outside)  They check down first, and if it is a running play they burst into their gap, hence the entire LOS is covered.  Early in the game we had the four DL with three down alignment, (four on the LOS with one standing up and three with a hand down, in a stance) so it would appear that running on this would be easy.  At the snap we see the D-Linemen penetrate their gaps and the LBs step up and fill THEIR gaps, thus there was no place for LaMichael James to go and it was stuffed for no-gain.  Now that I was looking for the One-Gap Run Stuffing on film (after reading about it)….it was great fun to actually see it in action in the Spring Game as they draw it up in the NFL.  Remember what Chip said about his 2010 signed recruits?  He didn’t say he had a highly decorated group of recruits or the number of BIG recruits, (as in size)…..he said that they went for and got…..”Speed, Speed, Speed.”  The young guns at LB like Michael Clay and BoLo are PERFECT for this defense, and now things are beginning to make sense as to why Dion Jordan can successfully make the transition from offense to DE. (Defensive End)  Verbal recruit Tyson Coleman is ideal for this 3-4 as is potential recruit Colt Lysera; these guys would blow up in this defense at OLB (Outside Linebacker) with their combination of size and speed.

As you’ve learned….this is not your father’s defense and you sense that the “Bend-but-don’t-break” philosophy is probably gone.  Baby….you haven’t seen nothing yet, as the coaches added ANOTHER major element to our new defense.  Dick LaBeau turned the NFL on its head with his infamous “Zone-Blitz”….but it became more than a package for the Pittsburg Steelers.  It became integrated into the defense as an attacking philosophy that could be utilized on ANY play.  It became an attitude, an opportunity for tactical moves, and a type of defense unto itself.  It takes the elements of the 3-4 and turns it into a nightmare for QBs and Offensive linemen because the only consistent thing seen by the offense….is the initial defensive formation before the snap of the ball.  After that ANY ONE of the D-Linemen, LBs, or Def. backs could be coming….but the Offense doesn’t know who and where from.  The defense was created to put pressure on the QB in the safest way possible.  In the past…you had to run a fire-house blitz with six and seven coming to sack the QB or force a quick throw.  Problem was, it was VERY risky as you could get burned badly with that many blitzing.  So LeBeau came up with the concept of leaving six back in coverage in case of a mistake to prevent the big plays against them, and to send five defenders on nearly EVERY play.  So….we send five defenders taking on six blockers? (The offense has the center, two guards, two tackles, and RB in to block)  (RB=Running Back) Normally I would say “big deal” to five rushers taking on six blockers.  But what if you don’t know WHICH five are coming out of eleven on the field?  Would that change things?  Oh yeah.  You can blitz EVERY play and not lose coverage in the secondary?  Wow.

In the first half of the spring game, when the first teamers were playing…..our LBs blitzed an astounding 66% of the time.  Did you get that?  We blitzed our LBs TWO-THIRDS of the time and made it work?  Good grief, how aggressive is THAT?  This is unlike ANY Oregon defense EVER in our history.  So…..we run a “Phillips, One-Gap, 3-4 Defensive alignment with the LeBeau Zone-Blitz Attack Packages”.    Holy Crap.   

The LeBeau 3-4 Zone Blitz packages are known to create more turnovers and stop teams more often on third down and it is the only defense that still confuses Payton Manning.  One NFL Offensive lineman admitted that when he takes on this type of defense he, “hated playing against it and this defense caused them to spend TWICE as long in preparation.”  The reason is the number of combinations of zone blitzes you can employ.  Remember….even though we BLITZED two-thirds of the time in the first half of the Spring Game…..it doesn’t mean that it’s risky if a D-Lineman backs off and moves into the pass coverage zone of the blitzing LB.  (He replaces the LB in pass coverage)  The flexibility of the 3-4 is a major attribute since this defense can easily morph into something else for a given play or two.  In the Spring Game….we went into a 4-3 defense 10% of the time.  This is situational, based upon down, distance, and personnel on the field.  It is easy for a LB to put a hand down and “sha-zam”….we’re a 4-3.  Lift a hand up and stand up….”sha-zam”…we’re back into a 3-4.  It’s easy to pull the LB altogether and bring in another corner in order to go into an eight man zone passing defense, or pull a D-Lineman and have another light pass-rushing DE type on the D-Line for some situations.   (Cal calls this their “Gold Rush” where they have three rushers with an eight man zone, but they pull the big NT and bring in another fast rushing DE, so they have real athletic players for the front three rushers)  There were even plays where we had only TWO DL with a hand down….and two others on the LOS standing up!  Those were used in pass-rushing situations as well, and as a way to mess with the O-Linemen’s heads. 

So……75% of the time we are in a 3-4 defense, and the other 25% of the time we shift into something else…..and that makes us a HYBRID 3-4 DEFENSE.  Bill Bilichick at the Baltimore Ravens of the NFL was known for a 3-4 that does ALL the elements I’ve referred to as a Hybrid, but the negative is too much complexity from the week to week changes.  We are also a Hybrid Defense due to the Gaps that we play; while we are PRIMARILY a One-Gap Phillips Defense…..Coach explained that about 20% of the time we WILL be in a Two-Gap, “Read and React” mode.  That was a relief to hear because when I looked at the Spring Game replay….I could have sworn that there were some plays where the D-Linemen were NOT penetrating, but holding their ground, like they were playing a “Two-Gap,  Read-and-React”.  It turns out that they WERE.   So the names I give this defense apply the MAJORITY of the time and Nick will adjust and use the attractive elements of other defenses when the situation calls for it…and that is the best kind of Hybrid!

 While the Phillips One-Gap 3-4 Attacking Defense will switch into a 4-3 on occasion…it will also shift into other unique defenses.  One play at the Spring Game had five DL and four had a hand down, (the only time I saw that) and a LB blitzed for a total of six coming at the QB.  Unusual, but it’s another package for situational use.  We actually had a “Jailhouse Blitz” on ONE play where we sent SEVEN on the blitz with four in secondary coverage.  It was third down and the White team was trying to score a TD and put the game out of reach, while the Green team was trying to stop them and force the FG attempt.  Sure enough….one man out of seven rushing was COMPLETELY unblocked and forced a throw in barely two seconds that flew over everyone’s head for a third down stop!  Receivers were open…but the QB couldn’t get the ball to them!  My sense is that our packages (13 at least) have highly defined roles for each player and you simply memorize your role in that package.  Since we are not morphing into something different all the time….the “Hybrid” aspect is a smaller part of the overall defense.  (25%)  But at this moment I would call our defense, “The Hybrid Phillips One-Gap 3-4 Defense with LeBeau Zone Blitz Attack Packages”.  Phew!  Since it is so unique as a combination/creation of our coaches….let’s just call it the “The Oregon 3-4 Attacking Defense”.  Better?

Today we will focus on the DL and LBs since the coverage can vary significantly by the secondary.  There is “Cover-One”, “Cover-Two”, “Tampa-Two”, and a ton of other coverages, but it is a separate discussion.  Ditto for the how they line up, as to whether a player should be a “3” Technique, or “5” Technique;  the difference of 12 inches in lining up can change EVERYTHING.  We will also discuss the unique characteristics of the positions in this 3-4 defense another day.  (Like the Hybrid LB..that Kenny Rowe is a perfect Prototype for….)  Since this has turned into a White Paper on the alignment and philosophy of the new Oregon Defense….I will save the details and nuances from my interview with Nick for another report.

When I refer to “right or left” on defense…it means from the perspective of the Middle Linebacker (MLB) looking at the offense.  For the Quarterback looking at the defense…..his Left Offensive Guard would be lined up against the Defense’s Right Defensive Tackle….and the “right” side is from the perspective of the MLB.  Right for the defense is left for the offense.  It is dependent upon each of THEIR perspectives to keep it straight.

Just four rushers can actually create errors by the QB, if the offense doesn’t know where the pressure is coming from.  On one play in the Spring Game, we had four DL (one standing up, and three down in a stance) and the RDT, (Right Defensive Tackle) Brandon Bair did a hard slant into the offensive guard to his left.  (Slanting is another zone blitz strategy to tie up offensive linemen and create a gap for another rusher to penetrate into the pocket.)  So Brandon crashes down into the OG, and the LT on offense blocks to his right into Bair to help out his OG teammate.  Problem is…..Bair did such a good job crashing down that he tied up the center, guard, AND tackle and TWO rushers (DE and ROLB, Right Outside Linebacker) had a clear shot at the QB.  The TE was open in the flat, but Darron Thomas had NO time to deliver and had to throw it into the turf to prevent a sack.  While all this was happening….the NT faked inside and pulled back into zone coverage to replace the blitzing LB!  So let me get this right…..we had seven back in coverage, but between the slants, blitzes, and zone coverage replacement….we created pressure and an incompletion WITH ONLY FOUR RUSHING?!Recall the play that Thomas had the “Pick-Six” against him?  We started with four DL on the LOS, but pulled the NT, Zac Clark, who went into zone coverage replacing Michael Clay who blitzed at the snap of the ball.  (Zac began immediately guarding a TE in his zone)  The offensive linemen didn’t see Clay coming until the last millisecond, (too late) and LMJ stepped up to block, but Clay brushed him aside and made the “touch” on Thomas that represented a sack.  Darron was flustered and threw into double-coverage anyway for the pick.  A preferred blitzing strategy is having a RB trying to stop a Blitzing LB, because they usually can’t stop a stud like Clay that has launched like a missile into the pocket.  Whoa baby…..we had SEVEN in coverage and in the end only had FOUR rushing….and it created the winning points for the White team?  Cool.  Now THAT is how you create pressure, yet remain safe from a big play against you!

In the Utah game….we lined up like a huge blitz on the Utes third down, but Eddie Pleasant started rushing from the extreme right side of the LOS and then retreated backward and to his left to replace the coverage zone vacated by a blitzing LB.  As he cleared the mass of bodies rushing/blocking he drifted into an open passing lane that had a Utah RB moving into it.  In a blink, the pass going to the RB was intercepted by Pleasant…because the QB NEVER SAW Eddie move into his field of view until after he had released the football!  Zone Blitz baby!

The most obvious advantage of the 3-4 with zone blitzing is SPEED.  We have four LBs on the field that are FAST, thus more playmakers are going to the ball.  Blitzing is easy to disguise in the 3-4, and our defenders have become MUCH savvier at timing their blitz at the precise instant.  The defense looks set, and then at the snap we have the safety on the left side of the formation who covers the slot man-- blitzing which pulls the RT out to block him, the LDE occupies the ROG as they slide to the Offense’s right and backward.  This creates a gap for the shooting ILB to create ANOTHER bad throw from the QB.  Where are they coming from?  The inside?  The outside?  The whole defensive scheme creates overloaded sides with blitzers, yet the offensive linemen and QB don’t know which side it is coming from or WHO is coming until it’s too late.  The nightmare for Offensive linemen is illustrated by a Left Offensive Guard who could see that his teammates are being overloaded on the other (right) side…..four rushers taking on three blockers, but if he moves over to help….a delayed ILB blitz on HIS current side could shoot through his abandoned gap.  Yet if he doesn’t go over to help…..he’s standing there blocking NOBODY while his QB is being overrun.  Defensive Coordinators call this the “plus-one” dilemma for Offensive Linemen and the intent is to make them guess on this 50/50 scenario at least once in each offensive possession.  The confusion, frustration, and even panic at times can lead to other mental mistakes later in the game.  So the psychological strain on the offense adds to the 3-4 Attacking Defense’s effectiveness?   Sweet!

What are the disadvantages of the Zone Blitzing 3-4?  Well….we have to give up the attitude of “keeping them in front of us”, or “Bend-but-don’t-Break”, or “don’t give up the big play.”  Why?  Because we WILL give up the big play once in awhile.  There were times in the Spring Game where we slanted AWAY and created a BIGGER hole for the RB to zip through, or the blitz was unsuccessful and allowed time to complete pass with WRs (Wide Receivers) on a crossing route.  But this is a percentage game here…..we KNOW that we will make more third down stops and create more turnovers with this defense.  I SAW it happening this spring and is why the QBs were so uncomfortable.  What if the offense tries to catch us in a blitz?  It’s risky for them too; if they are wrong it puts them in a hole for third down which makes our defense pin their ears back even further.  They don’t want that…….

What is the other disadvantage?  The 3-4 is vulnerable to an Inside Power Running Game, but again….the offense is taking their chances doing that.  Why?  Our Oregon Spread Offense is going to score a TON of points, and if you employ a power running game…you are playing poor odds as to whether you can outscore the Oregon Offense.  Add to all this-the concept of being a HYBRID 3-4, which means that we’ll adjust to a 4-3 with beefier LBs if need be for a game.  We all know the story…..that type of team has to have an extraordinary day throwing beyond DBs fingertips on a play-action pass or tossing up a Mini Hail-Mary to a TE.  It can happen, but that is LOW probability of occurring for their team, and I like our odds with this defense and our coaches.

What about the impact upon recruiting?  Hmmmm..….do you think defenders would like to play in this defense?  FishDuck is an old, fat Offensive Lineman who would have LOVED to have played in this defense.  Penetrate and disrupt?  Slant/Crash down O-Linemen like bowling balls?  Be sneaky and blitz?  Pull out and go into zone coverage as a NOSE TACKLE?  Totally screw with the Offense’s heads?  Yeah-Baby!  Count me in!  The feedback of players and fans is unanimous; it is great fun to play and it now DOUBLES our entertainment as a fan to replay in slow-motion the Zone Blitzes and the chaos this defense creates.   Geez….can I sign up?

Consider the impact upon TOP.  (Time of Possession)  Right now….our offense has LOW TOP due to scoring quickly, and I believe that Chip has told the defense (in the past) that they had to expect to play an extra quarter per game, (and they did) and the offense would overcome it.  But what if?....  What if this new defense FORCES more turnovers and third down stops….and the offense gets the ball for MORE possessions?  The TOP could balance out, but BABY we could end up scoring MUCH more over the course of a season.  The combination of the No-Huddle Spread Offense coupled with this new 3-4 Attacking Defense could create a snowball effect in a game where a couple of minutes can blow a game open for us.  Wow.

There will be NO team in America like Oregon; who else runs the Spread Offense AND this 3-4 Attacking Defense?  No one.  What do both the defense and the offense have in common?   Cutting Edge,..Speed, and AGGRESSION.  As I pondered all of this….I shook my head as it all came together.  This IS Chip Kelly isn’t it?  The No-Huddle Spread Offense….the Unusual Drills that I’ve never seen before……the Rock Music lifting us through practice…..and a 3-4 Attacking Defense?  It fits, doesn’t it?

Buckle up America.  Oregon will be THE most entertaining and exciting package of Aggression between Offense and Defense in all of college football… and I cannot WAIT to watch!

We love our Ducks,

FishDuck

(Charles Fischer) fishduck83@gmail.com



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Great informative article...

Last season it became clear that our defense was much different than in years past, and it was quite a Pleasant surprise. Last season our defense was much more effective than many gave them credit to be, all the while they were a very young unit with a new system in their minds. I look forward to watching this defense become more refined as players recruited specifically for this system mature and gain experience.

On a rather nit-picky note, you mentioned that the Wade Phillips defense in San Diego (and Dallas) is suited for smaller Nose Tackles. Yet in the productive defensive seasons in San Diego, the defense relied upon a very traditional 3-4 NT in Jamal Williams to occupy multiple blockers. Last season San Diego had to replace Jamal Williams in the trenches with a smaller NT, and all hell broke loose. That defense became utterly ineffectual at stopping the run. That defense became spoiled without a big body in the trenches. San Diego’s eventual response to problems posed due to a small NT became to blitz the SS often. Hopefully all of that was the result of a new Defensive Coordinator, but it still leaves some concern in my panicked mind.

If the Spring Game is any indication of things to come, this season’s defense will be a very good, but potentially great unit.

Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on May 31, 2010 9:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree about the chargers getting killed last year after losing Jamal, but in fairness to this article Phillips had been gone a couple years already so there’s no telling how the new DC approached that.

"Maybe your parents didn't believe in you."

by MarineCorpsDuck on May 31, 2010 9:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I completely understand,

Cottrel was a bufoon and Rivera only began to make progress late in the seson

Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on Jun 1, 2010 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

CaDuck....

I can only relate what I read on the NFL sites…..that Wade runs a 3-4 defense that is one-gap, and he is clearly doing that in Dallas. An issue with the TWO-Gap 3-4 defense is if the NT gets hurt. There aren’t many of those out there…..and it’s hard to run a two-gap with a small NT. Many DCs in the NFL state that the most important player in the two-gap 3-4 IS the Nose Tackle, because he frees up the ILBs. A small NT would not work well in a two-gap 3-4…..and I suspect that it is a two-gap that San Diego is now playing.

A small NT is fine for a one gap, as demonstrated by Dallas; it works well for Oregon because smaller D-linemen is what we have!

Thanks CaDuck,

FishDuck

by FishDuck on Jun 1, 2010 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

quite a Pleasant surprise.

HA!

by mackjones23 on Jun 1, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you for taking the time to research, write, and post this here. I really enjoyed it and I’m going to go back and re-watch my DVR of the Spring Game with this post in mind.

"Maybe your parents didn't believe in you."

by MarineCorpsDuck on May 31, 2010 9:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Longest Fanshot ever? I look forward to actually reading it sometime.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"

by JShufelt on May 31, 2010 9:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I wasn’t aware ATQ was in the book-writing business. Nonetheless it seems very well done and informative after skimming it, and I look forward to reading it at some point

Half the wheels, twice the alibi.

by axemen23 on May 31, 2010 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

JShufelt & axemen23...Come On!

Complaining about the length of it? I kept it under 5,000 words..(4,953)….what’s the problem?

While that was tongue-in-cheek….you are actually quite right. It WAS too long for a fanshot, in fact it was probably too long for a SHORT STORY. I am known for my long scrimmage reports in the fall and spring, and only just began posting them here this spring. But this one WAS the Mother-of-all-Fanshots.

Why?

When you make a claim as I did…..that we’re going to a 3-4 Defense as our base defense….that is BIG news. Everybody knows that Cal runs it, but us? When you step up to state this, then you have to back it up with research, and examples from film as I did. The scary part was going to Coach Aliotti…..was I right in my conclusions? When I learned that I NAILED IT….it was pretty exciting, and the Coach gave me some great information.

I intend to be writing more articles/fanshots about our new 3-4 Defense, as well as other comments/observations from my interview with Coach Nick. This article/fanpost is meant as a primer for discussions to come. Sorry for the length….but take the opportunity to sit down with a hot cup of java or a tall cold one for 25 minutes to learn about this new defense that we will watch this fall.

Guess what we’re doing this summer? Talkin Ducks Baby!

FishDuck

by FishDuck on Jun 1, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I totally was not complaining about the length.

So don’t worry. I just thought I’d pop in and quickly catch up on the latest AtQ stuff, and I realized, I didn’t want to stay up late reading it. I finished it in the morning.

Besides, it’s like you said, don’t skim it, read it later. Which I did.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"

by JShufelt on Jun 1, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I totally was not complaining about the length.

It’s not about the length, it’s about the girth.

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by Takimoto on Jun 1, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

TeeHee :P

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by tj4eck on Jun 8, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you so much for this!

I’ve waited with anticipation for your Spring practice reports the last few years. They are always well done and informative. Always worth the time it takes to read.

I’m glad that you’ve decided to post your stuff over here.

by echo31 on Jun 1, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

People are actually bagging on a guy for a fanpost being too long? This was a good take. If folks don’t want to read it, fine but to actually write a comment saying TLDR is pretty dumb.

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by dvieira on May 31, 2010 10:20 PM PDT reply actions  

It's not meant as a dig

I just didn’t have time to read it last night.

Half the wheels, twice the alibi.

by axemen23 on Jun 1, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t aware ATQ was in the book-writing business.

This is a dig. just because it’s sarcasm doesn’t make it appropriate

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by dvieira on Jun 1, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is a digg.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"

by JShufelt on Jun 1, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Umm… No. I didn’t see anywhere where anyone was “bagging” on him for anything.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"

by JShufelt on Jun 1, 2010 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great job!

That was a great read (yes, I read it) and very interesting. I’m excited to see what our defense does in 2010 and how that side of the ball evolves.

My #1 question after reading your writeup is: Did this philosophy come from Chip Kelly? We think of him as an offensive coach who knows how to score points, so I’m curious if his dolphin-like brain has taken over the defense as well, or if this is just another experiment by Alliotti.

by JonathanPDX on Jun 1, 2010 12:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Jonathan....it's unknown.

We did not cover who or where the defense’s idea originated from in the interview. We spent all our time talking about Oregon’s New 3-4 Defense and how it operated.

What Nick is doing is NOT new; it is new for Oregon, but the Steelers have been doing this version of the 3-4 since the early 80s, and it was being phased in with us last year, although we never heard about it. Now that I know what to look for…..I could see that we were doing it as early as the Purdue game, (second game) and we got some sacks with zone blitzes with only FOUR players rushing. It’s just that they didn’t WHO was coming at them.

I suspect that it was Nick’s idea since he seems to be very interested in improving. Last week when he was in Dallas….why was he there? (and why was he at some other NFL locations?) Because he was gathering more information on 3rd down packages! He has been criticized in the past for 3rd down performance…..and he was doing homework to improve. Right after my interview…he went back to work downloading/debriefing his new info. that he wanted to study further on 3rd down stops.

He is bringing an NFL defense to Oregon. Wow.

FishDuck

by FishDuck on Jun 1, 2010 6:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you saying that Chip Kelly is a defensive genius too!!??!!??

Talk about having an angel and devil fighting on his shoulders.

Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on Jun 1, 2010 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Kelly installed the 3-4 specifically, but I think Kelly gave Aliotti the tools and freedom to do it himself. I’m not trying to blame Bellotti for the failures of past defenses, but there was always a common thread about them and that was bend don’t break.

Kelly on the other hand is all about innovation and bringing something new that keeps the other guy off balanced. I think that, the improved speed and play of the linebackers, and the addition of Azzinaro gave Aliotti all the reasons he needed to switch up the defense and go after an aggressive style like the 3-4 zone blitz.

Plus, if you think about it this is the perfect system to put that type of defense into. 1) It’s a very aggressive style of defense that will get burned sometimes (oh well, guess Kelly will just have to come back and score quickly which he has no problems doing) 2) it’s built on speed, and Oregon recruits and has a lot of it 3) while it’s aggressive and allows scores quickly, it will also get quick stops when it’s one step ahead of the offense which is good for Oregon’s D since they are on the field a lot (you need quick stops to keep guys rested and a bend don’t break doesn’t allow that).

I think Bellotti stepping down not only allowed us to have Kelly as our head coach, but it also gave us New Aliotti as our defensive coordinator.

I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack

by Matt Daddy on Jun 1, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a fan of calling it a H-POG 3-4 DLZ-BAP Defense.

Phonetically: HA POG THREE FOUR DEALZ BAP

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"

by JShufelt on Jun 1, 2010 8:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Interesting write up. Looks like you did quite a bit of research. As one that rarely watches NFL, it was interesting to read the schemes from a Pro-Level being adapted to Oregon. Hopefully it does translate into turnovers. With a fairly complex scheme, I hope our players are in-tune with it. Someone being out of position for high-rush schemes can lead to HUUUUGE plays for the opposing team.

One point of criticism I do have with the article. The random call-caps/yelling/emphasis words are very distracting and are kind of like a speed bump in the middle of the sentence. I found myself rereading parts, just because I was wondering why there was an emphasis on it. It was somewhat like a written form of tourette syndrome.

Again, well researched. And I definitely enjoyed reading it. It was worthy of a “recommend”.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"

by JShufelt on Jun 1, 2010 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Great post, well deserved of the 5th rec!

Couple of quick points:

1. Aliotti actually switched up quite a bit last year between the 3-4 one gap and the 4-3. He also used a number of wrinkles off of each to keep offenses off balance (especially in 3rd down formations) by going to a 3-3-5 or 4-2-5 (also I swear I saw a 2-4-5 defense in one game, but I haven’t been able to go back and watch all the games to find out where it was).

2. All this flexibility comes because of the improved play of the linebackers. Each defensive area will get better the more years they run it (they say it takes 2-3 years of running a 3-4 before everyone is comfortable with their assignments. That is really true if you look at the BSU game last year and see all the confusion between the D-line and LB’s). The improved speed and ability of the linebackers though has given Aliotti the freedom to improvise and put in this type of system. You can look at Rowe’s versatility to adjust from DE to LB in the Jack position, Matthews smarts playing the MIKE and being able to read and adjust the D-line, Paysinger’s speed at the WILL and how he adjusted Pleasant from SAM to DB throughout the games last year. You never really knew which guy was going to blitz, not blitz, play zone, or man up. It was all confusing for a college QB and college O-line to try and pick up.

As someone who has watched and studied the Steeler’s 3-4 Dick LeBeau defense for years, the play of Oregon’s linebackers and DB’s are much more similar to the Steelers than any other defense out there. Plus, with the move of Pleasant to safety and the additions of Kaddu, Clay, and Lokombo and Alonso, look for the 3-4 to only get better next year and for the wrinkles to increase.

I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack

by Matt Daddy on Jun 1, 2010 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Matt Daddy....Fantastic.

Your comments are right on the nose….you understand, and now I know why. You have the benefit of watching the LeBeau Zone Blitzes for years, and now you can recognize them quickly watching our defense.

You are quite right about switching back and forth between the two defenses of 4-3, and then 3-4; it occured frequently in the Rose Bowl as well as through the season and in the Spring Game as well. Nick emphasized that this was a HYBRID 3-4 defense that used the 3-4 alignment as the base, but would morph into something different depending upon down, distance, etc.

While it was meant to be a fanshot for another time….you are also quite right about having just TWO players rush the QB at times! In the Rose Bowl…..there were actually plays where we only sent TWO players rushing and actually had Brandon Bair hang back as a spy on Prior.

Oh baby. This is going to be GREAT summer talking defense!

FishDuck

(check my e-mail at the end of the long fanshot of mine above and send me a line. You are someone I’d like to have a beer with…)

by FishDuck on Jun 1, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

(also I swear I saw a 2-4-5 defense in one game, but I haven’t been able to go back and watch all the games to find out where it was).

We did 2-4-5 vs. Cal in the fourth quarter. Not quite prevent defense, but close. We had to still be mindful of Best. Which is probably why we never went to a 2 rush Dime (That, and with Eddie, he practically was playing the dimeback)

We might have done some other 2-4-5 defenses, but I’m not sure when.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"

by JShufelt on Jun 1, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

One other thing I would have you look at is the safety blitz with the movement of Pleasant to Safety. I don’t remember how many times I saw Pleasant line up on the outside during the spring game and come on a blitz, but it was a lot. This D is vulnerable if a) you don’t have a fast safety that can get to the QB, b) it’s not disguised properly and the RB can get over to block him leaving you one down in the secondary and c) you don’t have good coverage with the corners and they get burned in their 1:1 match up.

I think the movement of Pleasant to safety was about his size and speed, but I also think it was a tool that Aliotti, Neal and Kelly saw they could add to increase the number of safety blitzes they put in this year. I think they are building on what they did last year and moving Pleasant allowed that even more.

I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack

by Matt Daddy on Jun 1, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Holy Crap Matt.......

You’re killing me. This is stuff I was going to talk about later and you NAILED it. Eddie is a HUGE asset in this defense with his unusual speed, and yes he did that in the spring game while earning his chops on some big blitzes last season.

The disguising is big as well, and while they are MUCH better at it….they can still improve further, and I believe they will. They are much better from last season to this spring..and it is sure fun to watch it develop slowly on Hi-Def; the ball is snapped and then you see players spring into play on their blitzes.

We need to clone Pleasant….because his speed and size are so unusual and I’d love to have him for many more years. (and he would just LOVE to play in it)

Matt…..you KNOW this defense! It is going to be a blast trading notes as I am a novice at studing film and seeing it. If you’ve watched Pittsburg for years….then you may have even watched Brian Hinkle (a Duck) zone blitzing at OLB for the Steelers years ago.

Really great stuff.

FishDuck

by FishDuck on Jun 1, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

We need to clone Pleasant

I think Bill Musgrave has already done that.

I think the movement of Pleasant to safety was part of the disguising that Aliotti and Neal are trying to accomplish. If he lines up on a slot receiver he’s not going to garner the attention from the O-line and QB as he would when he would line up as a LB.

Plus it allows them to still have another LB in there in the 3-4-4 and keep their size up for the run up the middle that is where they are most vulnerable. Stanford and Ohio St both exposed that area of our defense (and sorry to say it but size at safety (Boyett at Stanford) and size at LB (Pleasant vs Ohio St) were big parts of why). Moving Pleasant helps solve both while at the same time helps disguise another blitz package that Oregon can put in when need be.

I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack

by Matt Daddy on Jun 1, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

tl;dr.
can someone sum it up for the little child?

Duck season tickets for Christmas = Best Christmas EVER.

by DuckFanAndy on Jun 1, 2010 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Here’s a good explanation.

Reading is a good exercise.

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-I-T-T-L-E-I-L-L-L-A-T-E-L-Y"

by JShufelt on Jun 1, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe you should get one of these to help motivate you. Or perhaps you need a visit from this fellow:

by JonathanPDX on Jun 1, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome and informative FishDuck, thanks. It was a long read but well worth it. I’m really excited to see how our defense will improve and adapt to the new scheme (although it seems as if they’re certainly getting the gist of it) next season. It’s a perfect time for Aliotti and the staff to implement this now that we have a nice core of upperclassmen, yet plenty of younger talent that can begin to grasp the system and learn behind the older guys. This is a perfect style of defense for the type of offenses that we typically face in our conference, and I’m really excited to see it in action. Rowe, Pleasant, Bair…all those guys. I’m excited. Thanks for the great read.

Onto victory urge the heroes, of our mighty Oregon!

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jun 1, 2010 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Now that i've read it, It is well deserved of a Rec.

Now I dig it for a whole different reason.

Half the wheels, twice the alibi.

by axemen23 on Jun 1, 2010 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Good stuff, Fish

A few edits, if I may:

It’s Brian Billick in Baltimore. And Belichek first used the defense in New York with the Giants in the late 80s when he was a defensive coach for Parcells.

by Bud Elliott on Jun 4, 2010 6:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep Bud........

I wanted to be sure to give credit to Baltimore for the Hybrid Two-Gap 3-4…..and Belichick credit for what he did as DC and HC at New England…..and the tons of articles I read blurred together.

You are quite right and I stand corrected.

FishDuck

by FishDuck on Jun 8, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

EPIC

Anyone can be cool but being awesome takes practice

by moatman on Jun 7, 2010 6:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Props...

Absolutely insightful read, great job.

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by tj4eck on Jun 8, 2010 6:32 PM PDT reply actions  

There will be NO team in America like Oregon; who else runs the Spread Offense AND this 3-4 Attacking Defense?

Michigan tries to do both actually, albeit not anywhere near as successfully as Oregon.

Art Modell gives me a hard one

by gahnki on Jun 9, 2010 10:22 PM PDT reply actions  

it’s hard to tell what defense they’re in when it doesn’t look like they are playing any to begin with.

I want Canzano to stand there in that [expletive] white uniform, and with his Harvard mouth, extend Chip some [expletive] courtesy! Addicted to Quack

by Matt Daddy on Jun 9, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh.

Well, now I completely understand our defense.

by AllSaintsDay on Jun 14, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our defense is a dirigible.

Or a fairly plump submarine.

Thank you track, baseball, softball, and golf for ending my summer hibernation.

by Bill Musgrave on Jun 14, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

See, I helped you because it’s shaped like a football!

[em] this sig for rent [/em]

by benzduck on Jun 14, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

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