Quack Fix: Oregon picked to win Pac-10 by media, looks to meet expectations
by jtlight on Jul 30, 2010 7:04 AM PDT
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- The Pac-10 media did something they have not done in a long time: picked a team other than USC to win the Pac-10 title. Oregon received 15 first place votes (out of 35) and edged past USC by 3 points. Despite the preseason accolades, Chip Kelly dismissed the poll, citing last years poll that had Oregon 3rd and Arizona 8th. (For more media coverage, check out Cal Golden Blogs, who have an extensive write-up on the day)
- Ted Miller has a blog post on Oregon trying to live up to their preseason expectations. While Kelly takes every opportunity to disparage early rankings, Oregon is in a position that they haven't been in since 2001. How they handle that position will be a key to their success this season. While they can't play the underdog role, there is plenty of motivation after Oregon's tumultuous offseason. Miller also has a post on Kelly and DT Brandon Bair's Q & A session. Interestingly, Kelly continues to deny that the Ducks have switched defenses.
- Some of the most interesting quotes of Pac-10 Media Day came from Larry Scott, as he discussed the Pac-10's attempt to become the Pac-16 (h/t: CougCenter). Scott makes clear that all publicicity over the move came from Texas, who was pretty obviously playing all sides during the realignment game. In the end, Scott blames Texas politics for the collapse of the deal. Scott also had a Q&A with Darren Rovell on the topic of expansion that's worth a read.
- Jeremiah Masoli was once again in the headlines after his SI profile came out yesterday (though you wouldn't know if by the questions at media day). Hopefully he can get things turned around in the SEC. And EDSBS has some advice for Masoli as he enters the strange world of the south.
- Oregonlive is continuing their run through the greatest Oregon players of the decade. Today it's time to vote on tight ends. It's a tough choice, between Peele and Dickson. Though Dickson, in my mind, gets the nod based on his production.
- The Pac-10 athletic directors start meeting today about realignment. It seems pretty clear that the league will stick with 9 conference games, which I think is great for football fans. The big question will come down to the division split, which has many options on the table. Do the right thing, ADs, split the California schools and do the North/South split.
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I am excited about football!
But we could ask for Jersey Shore never to pollute the airwaves again…
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Yay! Football!
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington...like Jonathan Stewart, and Dennis Dixon."
I'm getting home from Japan tomorrow
The first thing I am going to do is go pick up a copy of NCAA 2011…in just one more month, WE CAN HAZ FOOTBALL!
"Whiskey Dick? Awww, cool!"- DuckFanAndy
Pac 12 Cooler
I sure hope they don’t do a N/S split. That would unbalance the conference like it did for the Big XII. They should do a hybrid zipper like seen at Pac12Cooler.com.
Shameless self-advertising strikes again!
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 30, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
And I am now shame-free
I am trying to get the word out. I don’t think that it was non-obvious that it was self-advertising. At least you knew that I was telling you about it and it wasn’t a fake plug.
IT'S Shame-WOW!!!!!!
Buy two, get seven free….
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
You may have got a better response if you made a few engaging points about how you view the possible splits, then asked readers to see your complete write-up. It might have felt less like a plug. Your post kind of read: I’ve got some thoughts on the new Pac-12 divisions, but I’m not going to discuss it here…you have to leave your beloved ATQ and go to my site that you’ve never heard of.
My ATQ is quite beloved. I feel dirty whenever I visit another site, including google.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
There’s a word for how I feel when I visit UW Dawg Pound, and “dirty” doesn’t even begin to cover it.
"[T]here's only one team that has a chance to try to repeat." ~ Sean Payton
by AllSaintsDay on Aug 3, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
It depends on how they do it
The only way it could work is to put the Bay schools with the NW schools.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Today's quack picture is great.
You can see Kelly squinting super hard to deliver maximum stare. I’m pretty sure his stares cause cancer in reporters (intentionally).
The U of O: Where idle hands are the devil's workshop.
Slightly OT, got my tix to boo Coach Cal in November
On sale now at the RG’s site.
They are cheap, just paid $30/ticket to sit towards the back of section 122 (which is a great location of course).
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yep
Wildcat (giant wild pussy) + Coach Cal = Pussy Cal
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
makes perfect sense to me.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Eight- or Nine-game conference schedule?
This is a pretty huge decision, at least in my mind.
I agree with jtlight’s assertion this morning that 9 games is great for fans. That’s the decision that I lean toward as a fan. I could be swayed.
Question(s): Won’t this decision come down to what’s best for athletic department budgets? And, can’t Pac-12 teams still take the high road for the fans by scheduling mostly respectable non-conference opponents? Something not like this.
Discuss…or not.
I like 8
Nobody with a division split plays 9 right now. That’s just how its been. We already beat the crap out of each other.
From a money standpoint, 8 is better purely for TV revenue. Yes, we can complain about scheduling patsies, but that extra week of non conference adds another 6 games to be picked up nationally.
Additionally, it makes the profile of a Pac 12 network greater. Were offering a bigger selection of games. With 9 games, we would have weeks of 6 games. With 8, wed have another week with 12.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 30, 2010 12:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
But it was FUN beating the tar out of each other!
Without it, USC would have gone to the natioanl title in 2007… Consider that…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 30, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
True,
Considering it is the Pac-10, having any conference games at all almost ensures that everyone will beat up on each other and we wont field a team in the NC game. I like an 8 conference game slate the best.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
That site has Auburn in the SEC title.
Talk about optimistic. They have to beat Alabama for the first time in three years if they’re going to make it. They can’t lose to LSU. They can’t lose to anyone in their division. Wow, there’s no margin for error in the ES EE CE this year… (sarcasm)
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 30, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather see 8 as well
Mostly because while tradition is nice, I like seeing interestin OOC matchups. This doesn’t mean the new OOC game has to be Texas or something, but I would like to see a decent BCS school fill that slot. Also, I think sticking in an automatic 6-6 record for an extra game is bad for the conference. Now that there won’t be a true round robin, I don’t see the point.
Of course then the question becomes whether or not any decent BCS schools have OOC slots to fill in the near future. The scheduling problems could be a potential nightmare.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
In the short term it might be a pain
But in the long run non conference scheduling wouldn’t be bad.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 30, 2010 12:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We’re already having a hard time scheduling teams. Hopefully we get a nice match next year. But CMU bailed, KSU will likely bail. The only interesting matches we have coming up is Georgia home-home and Tennessee coming into Autzen.
Montana State? New Mexico? Wyoming? Meh. I don’t want to play Portland State every year. I don’t even want to play SDSU, Fresno State, or anything like that.
9 Conference game schedule sounds so much more interesting, and is better football to me. Besides, it’s way better for bragging rights.
The extra game excuse is being bad for the conference is entirely BS. The only years the Pac-10 got screwed out of two teams in the BCS was prior to the 5th BCS game.
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The extra game excuse is being bad for the conference is entirely BS. The only years the Pac-10 got screwed out of two teams in the BCS was prior to the 5th BCS game.
I don’t know that we can say that for sure. What if, instead of squeaking out conference wins in 2004 and 2005, Cal and Oregon, respectively, had blown out a non-conference opponent? What if Cal had been 10 – 2 going into bowl selection in 2006? Or what if ASU were 11 – 1 in 2007? Or Oregon 10 – 2 in 2008? Or…etc.
And even if you find those cases implausible, we can’t tell the future. It very well may happen.
I want to see quality football as well. But as long as Oregon continues scheduling at least one good non-conference opponent and one decent BCS non-conference opponent, I’d be fine with trading one conference game for a non-conference game and a better shot at a BCS game.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I'd vote for a nine game schedule still
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
playing 8 of 11 other guys each year just doesn't seem right in any aspect.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Other conferences have been doing it with no problems for quite awhile. I liked the round robin because I liked being able to say that the Pac 10 was the only conference where each team played every other and there was a true conference champion. But that’s no longer possible.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Well sure round robin isn't possible.
But assume we are in the 2 division of one of the splits. Oregon schools, Washington schools, UCLA and Cal. We would play those 5 teams, plus 3 from the other division. Would you want to be giving up possibly 3 of the arizona schools/LA schools?
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
The simple answer? Yes.
Although it’s unlikely that will happen. I would think they’d try to make you miss one of each matched pair – so one of Utah/CU, UA/ASU, Stan/USC. I’m fine with that, since, as many people here have attested, the recruiting issues just aren’t that big a deal.
If someone were to make the argument that the recruiting problems in California would be an issue without a 9-game schedule, then I might change my mind.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
There’s more to it than recruitment. Recruiting wouldn’t hurt, but media exposure, as well as other factors, could take a hit.
I have lower respect for other college teams because they puss out on their schedules for the 4th OOC game. The Pac-10 has held itself to a higher standard, and it was our ONE counter-argument for conference strength. I’m tired of hearing about Florida beating up FIU for 56-0. Let us fight it in the conference and have better football.
Not supporting 9 conference schedule is endorsing Joseph Stalin, supporting communism, and saying that the BCS as the best post-game solution.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
I love communism in theory.
I hate the BCS, but it’s what we got. And since it’s what we got, we might as well try take advantage of the system as best we can. Us yelling about how our conference holds itself to a higher standards amounts to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things. It’s fine if it makes YOU feel better. As for me, I’d much rather see the extra revenue that Cougfan talked about above, and the better chance at getting into a BCS game.
Switching one conference game out for one non-conference game won’t change the fact that the Pac 10 still schedules tougher non-conference opponents, on average, than the other conferences. If anything I think media exposure increases.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Switching one conference game out for one non-conference game won’t change the fact that the Pac 10 still schedules tougher non-conference opponents, on average, than the other conferences
First, it likely will impact that, because there just aren’t enough good teams to go around that are willing to schedule tough games against Pac-10 teams. The 4th OOC game will almost definitely end up being a cupcake.
But even if we grant that overall the SOS won’t change, then the move to 8 games does absolutely nothing. The 8th or 9th conference game has not in any way been linked to BCS bids. As I stated below, the main reason other conferences get bids, is because they win their OOC, and have a clear top 2 (or 3) teams. Moving to 8 conference games will not fix this issue.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Except moving to 8 conference games has a good chance at fixing this issue, because 1) It will lead to more OOC wins, and 2) you have a much better chance of two teams running the table, since they won’t be playing as many of the teams in the conference. That’s simple math.
As I mentioned above, any of those second place teams in any of those years might have been helped by beating up on a non-conference opponent instead of playing an extra tough conference foe. And what we lose on the front end in quality, we make up on the back end in bowl season.
I’m fine with Oregon doing it’s usual one relatively tough NC game, one decent game against a BCS opponent, and then filling it out with local schools, preferably FBS. That’s enough quality football for me.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
you have a much better chance of two teams running the table, since they won’t be playing as many of the teams in the conference. That’s simple math.
Not really. The chances of the top two teams in the conference is not affected by the number of conference games. It is affected by strength of schedule. You want to go undefeated? Schedule weaker games.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
And you do that by…adding a 4th OOC game in place of a conference game! I’m glad we agree.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I'm with Joe and Jared
give me better football, which means nine conference games
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
And that’s the thing I think is what is kind of pissing me off (And when I think about it, I do get a little ticked)
It’s both purely hypothetical with weak arguments on both sides. But the odds of adding another (patsy) OOC game to help you get another BCS game is statically low (Approximately 12%-15%) in the best cases, and you get bad football.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
I totally agree with Dave.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Better football
Includes WSU (sorry cougfan) ASU and UCLA…just sayin’
"Legends are made on the shores of Lake Washington...like Jonathan Stewart, and Dennis Dixon."
UCLA aint horrible.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
better than
Portland State, San Jose State, and UC Davis.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
The argument for me isn't BCS related completely
We did this for money. There’s money in an extra non-conference game.
This is incorrect
Again, there’s more money in 8 games than there is in 9. The additional games — whether against high or low competition — increases the inventory of games the Pac-10 can sell when negotiating a TV contract and Pac-10 network.
Except if you end up getting schools like Portland state, San Jose, UC Davis, Most WAC teams, where you’ll be lucky if Comcast Sports even grabs it…
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Pac-10 network will take all of them
Which is the point of having it. Being able to provide more of an inventory ups the bidding since it’s fixed every year.
I don’t get your argument. I must be missing something.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
No, Im not being clear and I realize it
My thinking is that when pitching a Pac network, were pitching a nameless inventory of games. More inventory means higher bidding. Ill admit I know little about negotiating a tv contract and may be way off.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 12:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
if we have an extra big game
then it’s possible that it could be picked up by a big time network, which = more $$$
amirite?
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
I wasn’t talking about money. I was talking about SOS.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
and the better chance at getting into a BCS game.
::sigh::
This is what is frustrating the hell out of me about this discussion. People shoot from the hip as act like this is the gospel truth. It is purely an opinion based on an hypothesis with no supporting solid evidence.
SEC and BIg-12 teams have had multiple BCS teams – and it had nothing to do with an extra non-conference game, or one less conference game.
What about the ACC? Hell – The Big East gets FIVE non-conference games. They’ve never had multiple teams in the BCS.
The Big-10 only had multiple teams one year because the Rose Bowl committee was dumb as nails, not because they actually deserved it. Other than that, they’ve put up solid teams that have made a good case.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
It’s not gospel truth, it’s math. I said they’d have a better chance. And that’s true. You’ve completely ignored the examples I gave above. At some point, one of those 9 – 3, 10 – 2 bubble teams will miss a quality conference opponent, instead go 10 – 2 or 11 – 1, and make a BCA bowl as an at-large.
Might it never happen? Maybe, but the statistics don’t support that. And the arguments for the ACC and Big East aren’t relevant, since those have been, from top to bottom, worse overall conferences than the Pac 10 in the last 5 years.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I didn’t ignore the examples. I’m at work, and I’m tired of this debate. It’s frustrating me. I’ve spent enough time calculating crap today and I don’t want to dive into this shit too.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
what happens when the BCS goes away
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
I'll buy the beer
since in 2015 i’ll be old enough to do so
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
it won't end until 2015
that’s when the TV contract expires.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Okay, someone dub the Prince song to “Party like it’s 2015.”
I feel like I should say something smart.
i'll handle booze
you deal with the tech stuff. Shufelt can make posters and decorations. Tako can bring his trumpet for some live tunes. Daisy and Matt can cook.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
they'll probably take it
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
a 4th OOC game would help some teams make it to a Bowl Game … any Bowl game, not just BCS, which would help the conferences revenue
How so?
SEC and BIg-12 teams have had multiple BCS teams – and it had nothing to do with an extra non-conference game, or one less conference game.
One less game — and some creative scheduling that the SEC takes part in — helps prevent a regular season game between Florida and Alabama last season. If that had happened, there’s no chance of 2 bids.
The amount that helps is small, and I disagree with your assessment. The winner of that game goes to the national championship, and the loser would still get picked up – probably by the Orange bowl.
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But they would have already played once
Then likely would play again in the championship game, right?
For last year, they would have. I still think both Florida and Alabama would have been rank high enough to have two BCS games. Either team would have been ranked higher than Iowa, who was also an at-large bid, and a way sexier pick for any of the bowls.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
“no problems”
The only schools to really get multiple BCS bowls are the Big-12 and the SEC – and new rules keep getting put into place to make that harder to do.
If you want to get to a BCS game, win your games. 9-3 isn’t a BCS bowl caliber team, regardless of where you got those wins/losses.
12-0; 11-1 for a guarantee-to-near-guarantee spot. 10-2 is a bubble, and shouldn’t have lost one of their games: Conference OR OOC.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
And as I mentioned before, without the 9th game, several Pac 10 teams could possibly have met that criteria. Since they went to five BCS Bowls, 19 out of 40 BCS teams have had two losses or more. Six of those 19 have been at-large berths.
So yes, adding an extra almost-guaranteed win is a big deal.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Possibly could have? Sweet, let’s give up watching good football for a possibly could have.
There are so many better ways to solve the Pac-10’s BCS problem. This seems like a massive overreaction.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Why don't any of the other conferences with divisional splits do 9?
This is a serious question and not rhetorical. I don’t know the answer, but would like to.
Isn't that what we want?
The whole point of expansion was more revenue. It seems that 8 games would bring accomplish that by adding another home game and perhaps upping the money from the TV contracts.
some of us don't need to whore around for money
quite as much as others :)
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
I heard O-S-Ewe has moved up a notch in the beastiality business
Heard they’re working down in Tijuana now in those donkey bars.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
TV Revenue from patsy games is nill, only to be saved by the Pac-12 network.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
Which is the point
It’s all done ahead of time and since none of the schedule will be known (or the strength of it), being able to offer X games as an inventory should increase the contract amount, in theory.
I don’t see how this argument supports an 8 conference game over a 9 conference game.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
That still doesn’t make sense. Are you saying it is more likely that an OOC game is more likely to be picked up by TV than a conference game?
My kneejerk reaction is that is pretty absurd.
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I agree with Shufelt...
I don’t think it’s about the number of games, it’s about the quality of games. What if Florida hadn’t played against some pathetic non-conference team, and had instead played Auburn, Mississippi, or Alabama. Any of those games would be far more valuable to gaining conference TV revenue than two cupcakes.
The reason these teams have moved to 8 games has pretty much nothing to do with TV revenues, which will likely be the same either way, but to increase the number of home games.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
How is it quality of games?
When we’re selling a TV contract, we’re not selling a strength of schedule. A TV contract is negotiated without overall SOS schedule in mind. We, nor TV executives, can predict strength of conference or schedule over the duration of a 10-15 year contract.
This is especially true when negotiating a Pac-10 network. We’re selling them the games that aren’t picked up on national TV. Therefor, we’re selling them a blank inventory of games. More games means better money.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
This was a long way of saying
The main TV contract is going to be big no matter what. The contract we’re trying to work is the side contract for the Pac-10 network. For that, we’re selling an inventory of nameless faceless games. The more games we are selling, the higher that contract is.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I still fail to see, when negotiating contracts, or sitting at the who’s aired, and who isn’t aired table, someone would say “Oh. USC vs. UC Davis. That’s a good one to pick. That’s way better than Oregon @ Georgia.”
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Because there's no way to tell who's going to play who
You can’t say, 5,7,8 years in advance what the schedules will look like so you’re selling the total number of games, not the matchups themselves if that makes sense.
Except….do they look at number of games? I doubt it. I don’t think that TV executives would really look at a 9 game schedule any differently.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
That's what I don't know
I don’t know that TV networks look at the inventory of games. My feeling is they do, but I don’t know if they do.
I really think 8 or 9 games comes down to opinion at this point. I like 8, but I think both 8 and 9 have valid points to them. It really comes down to personal preferences.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
they look at the best games.
period. N.C. or conf.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
No they don't
TV contacts span longer than the strength of non-conference or conference schedules.
You can’t tell me they can predict a schedule 10 years down the line.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
They can when the cougs are playing
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Jul 31, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Look back 10 years then say that again.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone hit a sore spot...
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Just kidding
WSU Corners and receivers taught me a lot about how college football should be played
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
Except for that fact that any competitive SEC team can put anyone on its schedule, and fill an 80k seat stadium. That Pac-10 does not have one team like that. We simply cannot get home game revenue on that level.
And on top of that, the SEC is getting a bunch of money because they get ratings, not because they have 6 more games to broadcast a year.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
The SEC isn't the only one, though
The Big Ten (which has bottom feeders in KU, KSU, ISU)
The ACC (not a football power)
CUSA (samesies)
Mid-America Conference
They all play 8 and don’t pull huge numbers for home games.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Big 12 should be the first one.
Call it a Freudian slip.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel like I may be reaching
I just can’t figure out why everyone with divisions plays 8, even the lower conferences.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 12:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think “massive overreaction” is a hyperbole. Going to 8 games is a very reasonable response to a division split, as evidenced by every other conference with divisions.
Ultimately, you’re right, the only way for the Pac 10 to get more teams in the BCS is to win more games. Mathematically, that’s easier with an 8-game in-conference schedule.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Mathematically, that’s easier with an 8-game in-conference schedule.
This is why I’m saying it’s a massive overreaction. It’s taking something that is one of the most insignificant issues, and making it the forefront of the campaign.
An 8 game conference schedule would make it easier to some degree for teams to get to the BCS? But to what degree? There is one case where schedule might have made a difference (2007 ASU). But they would have had to miss Oregon or USC, which mathematically is just not very likely. Are these low percentages really worth that change? In my mind, no. There are so many better more important things you can do so solve this BCS problem than this type of shift.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
You Play To Win The Game!
Right now the game is making it to December with less than 3 losses and a solid strength of schedule. Like it or not, the BCS system we use makes it much easier to achieve these goals with 8 Pac-12 games instead of 9.
We can schedule a couple of really big games (Imagine Tennessee AND Michigan this year). Should we wind up with a really difficult schedule, or huge national ranking like Alabama, we also have the option to simply schedule 3 Sun Belt / WAC games, throw in a BCS filler like North Carolina, and roll into the regular season as favorites to win it all.
I don’t like the system, but it’s what we have. Nobody else is playing 9 games in a 12-team division, and you know what? Those other guys have it figured out, because they go to the big games way more often than we do. We can whine all we want about the system, but Florida and Ohio State will be playing for the big game more often than us because our front runner will always drop a game somewhere along the way.
We can talk all we want about playing difficult schedules with an 8-game conference schedule. But the fact of the matter is that simply will not happen. There are not enough good teams to go around. We will end up with a depleted football schedule. And honestly, I’m not willing to trade watching good football for this off chance that the Pac-10 will get an extra team into the BCS (which is a dubious proposition at best).
The main problem I have with this general 8-game argument is that I don’t feel that BCS has much to do with eight games. It has everything to do with winning your out-of-conference games, and then having your top two teams beat the rest of the conference. The extra conference game simply does not impact this. And in fact, Oregon was hurt in 2005 by missing out on UCLA, which could have been a quality win.
If we want to have an easier path to the second BCS game, then the Pac-10 will have to significantly change its scheduling philosophy overall.
The ninth conference game most adversely affects the middle teams that are struggling to get bowl eligible. It has an insignificant impact on getting a second BCS bid.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Wins more important then SOS
Look at Boise.
If we have 8, it gives us some flexibility. If the BCS wants wins, can do… if they want SOS, can do. With 9 we mostly get SOS, which does not seem to count for much with the current BCS.
i mean if we start in the top 10
then sure we can have a shit SOS. but what if we start out of the top 25
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
If wins were more important than SOS, Boise State would have been to a lot more BCS games.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
And if porn were twizzlers Axemen would be Albert Haynesworth.
by JonathanPDX on Jul 31, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't fancy myself as 350 pounds, having dropped 20 lbs and being a giant rich crybaby.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
2004 and 2005 aren’t even in the discussion. They were prior to the 5th BCS game.
2007? If ASU was 11-1 they would have made it to the national championship game. USC might have made the Rose Bowl. But you also have a far fetched assumption that ASU would have replaced their loss (22% chance of that) with a win (A huge assumption, unless you also assume they schedule a patsy – which is BAD FOOTBALL). Your scenario is purely hypothetical and is full of assumptions.
If we continue down assumption ally, let’s assume the ASU @ Oregon game never happens, because HEY – bad football is better for the conference! (/sarcasm) Bye bye game day at Eugene. That ’07 ASU game was freaking HUGE for Oregon football. If ASU misses USC, we get ASU in the national championship game, and they become a laughing stock for being torn apart by Ohio State, and USC still rips apart Illinois – but hey, at least each school got an additional $350k.
It’s also easy to forget, there’s also a track record for schools not going to the national championship/BCS game because they had laughable schedules. Many pollsters look at the body of work.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
by JShufelt on Jul 30, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont know that I agree with your final argument,
“It’s also easy to forget, there’s also a track record for schools not going to the national championship/BCS game because they had laughable schedules. Many pollsters look at the body of work.”
Big-12 teams have had no trouble getting into the national championship with an 8 game conference schedule and a weak OOC schedule. Regardless, the top two teams inevitably play 9 conference games anyways…
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
But if you look at all the body of works, including those sitting on the outside, those Big-12 teams deserved to be in the national championship. It wasn’t their easier schedule.
Auburn got snuffed, because they played a pathetic schedule. Utah, Boise State – they’ve been snuffed because they had an awful schedule. Maybe they’ve made it to some BCS games, but that doesn’t matter.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
wait, not that I am one to talk, but doesn’t snuffed mean killed? If you have film of the programs getting snuffed you could make a lot of money if you keep it on the down load.
But it’s not like those Big 12 teams were going up against other teams that had a legitimate argument. The Big 12 has been one of the stronger conferences in recent years, and have been rewarded for that.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
The Pac 10 has been one of the stronger conferences in recent years, but has not been rewarded for that. Yes, it’s hypothetical, but your opposing arguments are hypothetical as well. How do you know what an 8-game conference schedule would have done? It absolutely could have led to additional Pac 10 teams in the BCS, and then we would have seen how they did on a big stage. We don’t know that ASU would have lost to OSU or any of that garbage. You’re speculating just as much as I am (and I’m referring to Shufelt as well here Jared, this isn’t just a response to your post).
Defending maligned chants since 2009
The Pac-10 has been great top to bottom the last few years, but have had few teams worth of BCS bids by the end of the season. As I said, you need two teams at the top. The Pac-10 just has not had that often in recent years.
As to your point about the eight game schedule, obviously we don’t know what would happen. It very well could lead to an extra BCS game. But the chances of that happening are very slim, and the schedule has to just fall a certain way.
The Pac-10 has many other factors that are far more important in getting to BCS games. Things such as general conference parity and scheduling philosophy.
The simple fact is that the conference runners up cannot continue to lose non-conference games. You lose those games, you won’t likely be getting an at-large bid. Cal in 2006, all teams in ’08 and ’09.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
and this is why we love you.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
I like how Oregon received a 9th place vote as well.
I wonder whatr writer put that in there and I would like to see how the rest of the list looks.
If Duke ever built a Cameron Outdoor Stadium, it would be Autzen.
You gotta know that if Clownzano had a vote, it had to be his.......
even his parents would say so …
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
They talked about this on Miller's blog and AtQ got a shout out!
Link here, middle of the page:
If Duke ever built a Cameron Outdoor Stadium, it would be Autzen.
Scanning further down, did you know Oregon lost every significant player on its Rose Bowl roster? Wow, are we going to suck.
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I read that.
You learn something new everyday.
If Duke ever built a Cameron Outdoor Stadium, it would be Autzen.
Every office needs a linebacker.
Thank you track, baseball, softball, and golf for ending my summer hibernation.
by Bill Musgrave on Aug 2, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
has anyone been following the Rick Pitino trial
goddamn, thats an explosive fun time.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Pac 10 Big 10 season kickoff game @ the rose bowl?
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Brandon is a giant, huggable teddy bair.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jul 30, 2010 5:45 PM PDT reply actions
Ted Miller FTW
In response to a question about who voted Oregon ninth:
Ted Miller: While many voters reveal their ballot, I haven’t seen the ones to which you refer (if any one has, feel free to send the link). And, yes, it is a secret ballot, so the Pac-10 office won’t release names.
I would be surprised if any of those three teams finished ninth, but voting Oregon ninth is absurd. I will right now guarantee you 100 percent that Oregon doesn’t finish ninth or 10th in the conference. Iron clad.
The person who voted Oregon ninth doesn’t really believe the Ducks will finish ninth. It’s not a defensible position. It’s like a food critic calling the Des Moines Applebees the best restaurant in the U.S.
While the Pac-10 blog is all for that whole free speech thing, if I were in the Pac-10 office tabulating the votes, I would have called said voter and asked him or her to explain. And then I would have revoked their voting privileges. Or posted the nutty voters email, home address and cell phone number anonymously on Addicted to Quack.
Kidding. Probably.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Hahaha! AtQ mention!
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jul 30, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
In the original its actually a link to ATQ
He reads us.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Note to Ted Miller-The views of Axemen23 do not necessarily reflect the opinion of Addicted to Quack or its other posters.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jul 30, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he links CougCenter VERY frequently. Not a big surprise considering you guys are a very good source for Wazzu news-something that is tough to find.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jul 30, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
the beer chuggin’ quote in that article is pretty funny.
Josh from Puyallup, Wash., writes: If me and a buddy go to Pullman this year in our USC gear for the USC vs. Cougs game, think we will get mugged, shanked or killed? I’ve never been to Pullman….
Ted Miller: If you go to the right places, you will be challenged to a beer chugging contest. And you will lose.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
i’m not sure what’s more entertaining: USC fans travelling to Pullman or them being scared of doing so…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
We're a friendly drunk bunch
If they only showed up they’d know.
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of showing up, cougfan
Is Lewiston the closest I’m going to be able to get to Pullman hotel-wise? So far everthing i’ve looked at in Pullman and Moscow is booked.
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Hmm, I wonder if they did Moms weekend that weekend.
What hotels have you tried?
by Brian Floyd on Jul 31, 2010 1:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Best Western, Holiday Inn Express, La Quinta, Hilltop Inn and a few others. I even tried the generic hotels.com for hotels in Pullman and Moscow and came up empty.
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Try the Manor Lodge and Cougar Land Motel if you haven't.
It’s homecoming weekend so hotels could get really dicey.
You rock
cougfan – I think I got the LAST available room in Pullman. It’s always hard to figure out where to stay in a town you’ve never been to, so thanks again for the tip.
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Ugh, the last letter from a Baver is awful. But it has some educational value. I didn’t know that we lost every significant player from our Rose Bowl roster.
Apparently significant=tall enough to ride all the rides at the county fair
Sorry Lamichael, the kiddy canoe path is that way.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
In that case,
Oregon State has been lacking any significant runningbacks and wideouts for years.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Casey Matthews?
Last I heard, he hadn’t jumped for the pros…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 30, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
yaaaaay
we’re big time baby! Break out the beer and cigars (Matt, your rainer is down in the storage shed).
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Here's some pretty good Quack, new this afternoon:
RB Clifford Moore visiting this week from Joliet JC in Illinois. He’s a team mate of Brandon Williams, TE, who is a new addition to the Ducks this year. Moore said that his arrival would be next year, that he wants to be here.
I couldn’t find any high lights from Joliet JC but High school is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_kMXZE2pNI
Write up sez stats off the chart and speed …. sounds like sumbody Kelly’d recruit
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
Jared, are you reading? Go scout him.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jul 30, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone from the main town of the Blues Brothers is good by me.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Since I dont know where to post this:
But my apologies to anyone in the Online Dynasty, my family went to Disney World where wifi is nil. Sorry for holding everyone up.
Q: How come Oregon State players haven't gotten in trouble for stealing anything from a frat house?
A: Who wants to steal a lunchbox?
by QuackQuackAttack on Jul 31, 2010 5:49 AM PDT reply actions
Yeah. Disney world isn’t even that cool to begin with. Let axemen know when you’re back and he’ll let me know.
by jcgoducks on Jul 31, 2010 1:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm back now.
Start it up.
Q: How come Oregon State players haven't gotten in trouble for stealing anything from a frat house?
A: Who wants to steal a lunchbox?
by QuackQuackAttack on Jul 31, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I won't be able to play until sunday afternoon
and I’m gonna be out of town august 4th-15th so take that for what you will. I might be able to be able to make something happen to play a game in minnesota though.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Yeah. Disney world isn’t even that cool to begin with. Let axemen know when you’re back and he’ll let me know.
by jcgoducks on Jul 31, 2010 1:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
hey tako
wtf man. no tako friday?
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Good for Derek Dooley:
But Vols coach Derek Dooley said Friday that he will not release Brown from his scholarship. Dooley said he makes decisions on who to release based on three criteria: what was the player’s personal investment into the program; what harm the player’s departure would cause the program; and how the player handled the situation as a person.
“I have an obligation to protect the program,” said Dooley, who has released some players and declined to release others since taking over the Vols. “Bryce can still go to Kansas State but I’m not releasing him.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5424622
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
I think it is interesting that his dad is doing all the talking
Arthur Brown said that’s because he has repeatedly told Dooley since April that he has wanted his son released from his scholarship.
It almost sounds like his dad (Arthur) is making the decisions not Bryce.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
leads to back my original belief from last year. Bryce isn’t a bad guy, he just has bad guys/advice surrounding him.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Exactly
I’m reading between the lines here, but it almost sounds like Dooley wants Bryce to man up, make decisions, and speak for himself. It’s time to step out of daddy’s shadow son.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
that’s what i’m thinking. plus he’s putting it out there for future guys if they want to transfer. big boy football at its best/worst.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
If the kid didn’t want to be there he shouldn’t have accepted the scholarship. There are plenty of other players in the country who would be excited to have a scholarship there. Most of the time I think the player should have the right to leave, but if he’s playing games that wind up screwing over the coach, team, and recruiting staff then I think the coach can make an argument not to play along.
The whole business turns into a circus run by high school kids, where schools hold out scholarships waiting to see what the next big headcase does, and how long he wants to wait before he announces that he’s Taking His Talents To South Beach. It’s ugly and I think a lot of athletes who aren’t 5-star Youtube heroes get screwed, or at least mistreated, in the process. If this coach wants to take control and make a statement that his program is not at the mercy of some kid and his agent then good for him.
by JonathanPDX on Jul 31, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It doesn’t seem like it’s good on Dooley. It sounds like he’s being a gigantic douchebag. Brown has obviously had his problems, but Dooley has been lying about this whole text messaging thing.
If a player wants to transfer, it’s incredibly shitty not to let them if it doesn’t negatively impact your program (which it’s clear this move would not). Brown’s got a lot of growing up to do, but Dooley is acting like a jilted lover. He needs to grow up too.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Yeah, it seems like he should just let him go, what is he going to gain by not releasing Bryce? I’m not sure what Dooley thinks is going to come from this that will be positive for his program.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Seems like this might be a detractor for recruiting, too.
“If I go to Tennessee and don’t like it or it doesn’t work out, they are going to screw me.”
Similar to employers who try to strong arm people into loyalty, in the end all it does is scare everybody off and you’re only left with drones and folks that have a hard time finding a job somewhere else.
Thank you track, baseball, softball, and golf for ending my summer hibernation.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 31, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
It is a positive
because it’s a giant middle finger to the adivisers and controllers and buttfuckers that tell a recruit where to go without any deference to the recruit’s preference.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
JT – I completely agree. Let Brown go, show your team how you get past adversity and move on. Seems like that would help the program more than puffing out your chest. How is this move helping to change the culture at UT?
Culture? UT?
Iz that like a bacterial culture?
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
an update from Greg Biggins on a couple of potential recruits:
Josh Atkinson (Livermore, Calif./Granada)
DB, 6-1, 180 pounds | College: Undecided
Atkinson started off playing corner but injured his knee early in the first game of the tournament. Atkinson was struggling up to that point and was beat on a post corner for a touchdown on the play he was injured. The athlete has excellent size and definitely looks the part but struggled in coverage and understanding the defensive schemes. He has excellent track speed running a 10.51 this past season but it didn’t necessarily translate to the field as he struggled to recover when beaten off the line.
George Atkinson (Livermore, Calif./Granada)
DB, 6-2½, 200 pounds | College: Undecided
Atkinson made it known he wanted to play on the offensive side of the ball but was used primarily at safety or corner most of the tournament. He took some reps at running back but wasn’t involved much in the offense. At safety, Atkinson really struggled as it was a new position for him and one he was not comfortable with. When you look at Atkinson’s size and speed and try to project him to college, safety seems like a good fit but the athlete definitely prefers the offensive side of the ball.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/blog?name=biggins_greg
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Interesting about the Ducks
I see Thomas stepping in nicely, but I’m just afraid he’ll be so green that mistakes will happen in big time situations.
Your resident Oregon Guru, has a comprehensive breakdown and a “Best” and “Worst” case scenario on the Ducks season:
Best,
Pac-10 Guru
Who are you and what is your blog position? And your opinion?
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
Why are you assuming that Thomas is going to be the starter?
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jul 31, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, you claim that Thomas is “more mobile” than Costa. That is untrue.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jul 31, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
WHITE PAWR!
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 1, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I fail to see why you’re a guru. Your analysis is wrong.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
Is the 'guru' Clownzano in drag?
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Jul 31, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Sooo....ya
Um, looking at your blog site, it shows Arizona winning the conference posted on July 25th…..um…your guru status has been revoked!
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
by DAWGFATHER91 on Jul 31, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Masoli’s new website is actually pretty good. The “Media Mistakes” tab is also quite entertaining especially where they try to convince me that Wikipedia sometime’s contains inaccuracies. false!
Sentence: On June 9, Masoli was dismissed from the team after a citation for marijuana possession. Masoli has pleaded not guilty to three non-criminal citations revolving around his arrest.
Truth: Again, he was not arrested.
http://www.jeremiahmasoli.net/media-mistakes/
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
If Ted Miller reads this
At about 2:50 on the FOX interview with Chip, he says they changed defenses last year. Why he would say this on FOX and not answer your question?
My take on QB... for what it's worth
Costa will start. Since he is a team guy, has a good backup, is 5th year, and prob not any NFL hopes unless he plays “lights out”, he can play with abandon. I know that is not what one thinks of when thinking of Costa, but if he plays too conservative, Thomas will eventually get by him later in the year. I think having a little “wild hare” at QB is a plus for our offense, and a conservative Costa will not give that dimension… an “on the edge” (loose) Costa might.
Go ducks
Confidence is key
Under Chip Kelly we’ve seen both Dixon and Masoli thrive and grow into very good quarterbacks. What do the two of them have in common? They both played lights out when they weren’t looking over their shoulder. Dixon was a completely different guy when he knew Leaf wasn’t going to come in and replace him, and Masoli was at his best when he was “the man” and that team was his without question.
I think Costa has the chance to have a very good year. He’s waited a long time for this chance, and he’s seen a LOT of stuff go down during his time at Oregon. He’s also had as much time with Chip Kelly as anyone in Eugene, and Chip’s shown himself to be a pretty good teacher and QB coach. Experience is good, but a killer running game is a quarterback’s best friend. James, Barner, and perhaps Seastrunk offer so much, all Costa has to do is make the easy throws, hand the ball off, and don’t do anything incredibly stupid like throw the ball to the wrong team or steal a computer. Hell, Alabama won the championship and I don’t think they even had a QB last year.
by JonathanPDX on Jul 31, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a Rec, Jomathon. And besides that, Coast throws a really pretty ball, accuracy, touch and power when needed;
he’s really got somethin’. And I think you are right, Chip gives him the nod, HE DA MAN!
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Jul 31, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
No looking back
You are right, at best when not looking back. Costa will also not need to hold anything back moving forward.
When he played and won at UCLA, he was walking on eggs and for good reason… he was it. This year he has a backup (or two), knees two years from latest surgery, and a loaded championship quality team to lead… I don’t know how he can sleep at night.
Rumor on Rocky Top says that the Vols will be wearing navy-colored jerseys and having a military themed day on 9/11 against the Ducks.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 1, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions
If that be the case, we should wear the Spring Game whites, make it an all-troops game.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
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by Takimoto on Aug 1, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, that would be nice to see.
Although selfishly, I’d like to see UT wear the traditional orange and just go with something smaller like a patch. That’s just me though.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 1, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Um, you've seen Deliverance, right?
(Dammit, I wish that was set in Tenn and not Georgia).
Thank you track, baseball, softball, and golf for ending my summer hibernation.
by Bill Musgrave on Aug 1, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
orange hunter's camo?
Maybe the just want to get away from the orange… we’ve been doing pretty good lately when the other team wears orange.
Oregon better come up with a creative uniform counter.
Here comes camo-duck!
by Brian Floyd on Aug 1, 2010 12:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
the return of roboduck
nuff said.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Unless those jerseys come with a holster I don’t think the Vols are going to stop our running backs.
If the Volunteers bring their muskets to the game, Chip may have to debut the kevlar unis.
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
Jeremiah Masoli has enrolled at Ole Miss
he will walk-on to the football team.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
John Hunt
Is pitching the "Pac12http://pac12cooler.com/cooler idea":http://blog.oregonlive.com/pac10/2010/07/a_conference_divided_—_but_ho.html which was mentioned at the top of this thread here. or I suppose you could just go to pac12cooler.com
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Damn me and my lack of proofreading
The John Hunt article is here
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
“If you win 10 games, they’re going to talk about you; if you don’t win 10 games, they’re not going to talk about you,” Kelly said. “We get to control who’s biased. If we go 8-5, nobody’s going to talk about us.”
i think this Chip Kelly guy is starting to grow on me…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Aug 1, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for helping
And also a big thanks to John Hunt!
Well dangit
I hate when these experts steal my ideas
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
“What I’d really like to do is dress two friends up in Cub Scout uniforms and have them walk out with me.” — Oregon coach Chip Kelly when asked at ESPN about the state patrolmen who typically escort coaches off the field after a game.
That’s it. I want to buy this man a drink.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5427908
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Scott and the coaches rang the bell at NASDAQ on Wednesday morning. Kelly, perhaps wanting to make sure the coaches didn’t start to get too big for their britches, noted that the infamous Snooki and the cast from “Jersey Shore” had rung the bell at the New York Stock Exchange the day before.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Aug 1, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't hink i care for that logo much...
Besides it will change next year anyway!
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
It will change
And the change is pretty obvious (hint: change 10 to 12 in the current logo). The Pac-12 one was unveiled at media day.
NOOOOOO!!!!!
So they’re gonna keep that….and change the number…..horrible! I’d rather see a pic with the west coast getting Colo, Utah in there and a banner at the top. I don’t like the shield look. Maybe a Circle with the logo’s and PAC 12 in the middle, i look at the new one and see a mid major, non BCS conference for some reason. Am i alone in this?
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
This is what i see when looking at the new logo for some reason
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
a huskie reminiscing about the past?? no way….
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Aug 1, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
There is only one shield
And because you can’t improve what it looks like all in comparison look moronic for trying.
"Ducks are the college football version of Paris Hilton…they’re famous for no reason, they look pretty and they got a rich daddy." Author Unkown...so i'll take it - DAWGFATHER91
Do you think you could have found a larger image?
This one is barely too big to fit on my laptop screen.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
i think our players interning at Nike should give it a shot. i’m a fan of the new logo. down here in oregon, we do innovation and branding quite well.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
I'm going to be taking my talents to South Beach
to put together weekend quack fixes for the rest of the off-season!
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
No no no no.
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 1, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m going to be taking my talents to South Beach
toput togetherweekend quackfixes for the rest of theoff-season!
by JonathanPDX on Aug 1, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hahahaha
AtQ's Resident Baseball Purist.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 1, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
General Observation on Blog
Guys,
Good blog!
You’ve had a great run in football recently, and despite NW rivalry I’m proud of your success.
I’m a little new to blogging comments; is it just me or do some of your fan posts seem to be a little hyper?
Best Regards,
HuskyInExile
It’s all the Quack. Gets us all jittery-like.
They call him Rags. Where he goes, no-hitters follow.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
by Takimoto on Aug 2, 2010 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
PAC-10 finish
Here’s my prediction for how the Pac 10 will play out this fall:
1) Oregon
2) Oregon State (yup, that’s right)
3) USC
4) Arizona
5) Stanford
6) Washington
7) Cal
8) UCLA
9) Arizona State
10) Washington State
My goal is to have the Ducks take the conference again and the Huskies to go winless on the road for the third year in a row. It could reasonably happen if the Apple Cup weren’t in Pullman. They have a brutal road schedule this year, including non-con. GO DUCKS!
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